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Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:26pm On Apr 08
Well you're not a soldier so you can't understand what i'm saying.
One human sitting on a seat and commanding millions to go and die is SPIRITISM my friend!
Do you know that when soldiers set out for war their main goal is not the army coming to fight them but the one controlling the army? undecided
Millions of lives will be lost just because of that one man the whole army is protecting from the attacking force yet the soldiers will continue to lay their souls on the line just to protect that one man. Until all his army finishes the last soldier will be prepared to die alongside him otherwise he will continue to fight for his commanding officer and you think it's logical shey? smiley


ChizzyBuna:

It had nothing to do with spirit
It is simple logic
Soldiers who are forced into wars or undesirable situations by the govt, they always revolt or kill their general.
It happened in Vietnam war
Some us general where killed by soldiers.
Some of these soldiers were forced or tricked in to join military.
Some of them joined the war happily but as months after battles upon battles affected their brain making them mentally unstable to the point the kill their general.
It has nothing to do with spirit
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by FatherOfJesus: 6:59pm On Apr 08
Go can be found in GOd, so Go must have come from God.
Wacky reasoning grin
Dtruthspeaker:


Your sense don leak finish! Go Panel Beater make e for weld the hole! grin After dat go top am with good knowledge oh, else e go still spoil your container and leak troway! grin

Did I say "evil is in dEVIL"? Mumu! grin Your Comprehension too don pafuka, you need new Original one, not Tokunbo oh, but new one and Original one. grin

Mumu, ink is clearly and undisputably different from pink but The-Evil and D'Evil are one and the same!

Even Children know this but a mumu must always be a mumu and must advertise his mumuness!




Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by Dtruthspeaker: 7:12pm On Apr 08
FatherOfJesus:

Go can be found in GOd, so Go must have come from God.
Wacky reasoning grin

Your Distorted Reasoning, not mine! grin Find another Way to Validly Rebut!
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by sonmvayina(m): 7:27pm On Apr 08
ChizzyBuna:

Death is a must for all living things
Death is a process of transformation
From one consciousness to the other

In original form
You were a spirit
Your spirit is attached to your father's sperm
A white liquid
When the sperm meet with egg. It dies
This death is the beginning of a foetus
This foetus grows into a baby
Baby is born
Baby turns to adult, gets old and dies
This death is the beginning of a spirit
The spirit then can come back in sperm
The sperm meets egg and inject itself into egg and dies.
The circle repeats itself.

Death is just a process of transformation from one dimension to another.

Simple spiritual truth...but many will close their eyes and ears to it...simply because it eliminates their jesus from the equation...

Devil is a christian creation...same as jesus.

Accept this and be wise..
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by FatherOfJesus: 7:42pm On Apr 08
Dtruthspeaker:


Your Distorted Reasoning, not mine! grin Find another Way to Validly Rebut!

your own worst I swear. Haba, your logic must have been imported from the Stone Age. grin
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by Dtruthspeaker: 7:52pm On Apr 08
FatherOfJesus:
your own worst I swear. Haba, your logic must have been imported from the Stone Age. grin

grin Ehen, now you speak well and True! The Truth is in the Past son! The Truth is in the Past! grin

Proverbs 22:28 “Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set.”
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by Image123(m): 11:05pm On Apr 08
ChizzyBuna:

Death is a must for all living things
Death is a process of transformation
From one consciousness to the other

In original form
You were a spirit
Your spirit is attached to your father's sperm
A white liquid
When the sperm meet with egg. It dies
This death is the beginning of a foetus
This foetus grows into a baby
Baby is born
Baby turns to adult, gets old and dies
This death is the beginning of a spirit
The spirit then can come back in sperm
The sperm meets egg and inject itself into egg and dies.
The circle repeats itself.

Death is just a process of transformation from one dimension to another.

So would you rather be dead than sleep?
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by ChizzyBuna(m): 11:50pm On Apr 08
MaxInDHouse:
Well you're not a soldier so you can't understand what i'm saying.
One human sitting on a seat and commanding millions to go and die is SPIRITISM my friend!
Do you know that when soldiers set out for war their main goal is not the army coming to fight them but the one controlling the army? undecided
Millions of lives will be lost just because of that one man the whole army is protecting from the attacking force yet the soldiers will continue to lay their souls on the line just to protect that one man. Until all his army finishes the last soldier will be prepared to die alongside him otherwise he will continue to fight for his commanding officer and you think it's logical shey? smiley


You are not making any resonable point.
Soldiers are trained to protect and attack. So I don't get why you think a soldier doing his job is spiritism. You are confusing yourself.
You talk as if war is one side affair
Like I said, there are two sides of war
The attacker and the defender.
If Iran decide to attack your country. Will you as a soldier sit back and watch or will you go to warfront to defend and protect your family and country from an attacking army?

So is there spirit involved in soldiers who sacrifice their lives to defend their country from an aggressive attacking enemy.
You see it has nothing to do with spirits
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by ChizzyBuna(m): 11:58pm On Apr 08
Image123:


So would you rather be dead than sleep?
I surrender to the will of God
When He calls me Home
I will gladly go and be at peace with Him

When it's your time it's your time
When you understand this
You will see the irrelevance of your question.
Nobody wan die but they wan go Heaven
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by ChizzyBuna(m): 12:15am On Apr 09
Dtruthspeaker:


grin At the bolded! This Truth was what I was trying to elicit from you, Devil is from the word D'Evil just as we say B'day for birthday.

D'Evil is from the word The-Evil! And you have just Admitted in Truth, The Truth that Evil Exist!

Thus, There Is No Evil, without The-Evil just as there is No Wom(b)-Man without man!

So clearly you have just Admitted The Truth The The-Evil Truly Exists and therefore Contradicted yourself in saying "The-Evil does not exist"!

You are confusing yourself
Wordplay can be twisted to form any baseless conclusion.
I can use wordplay like
If you spell "GOD" backwards it means "DOG"
but it doesn't make sense. Just like your wordplay devil twisted to D' evil means devil exist?
I can twist words to confuse my audience
This is what pastors do
They twist words to suite their agenda.

Satan was not mentioned in the old testament. Why
In hebrew old testament the word for an enemy is Hasatan
Hasatan is the same as your enemy.

Hebrew old testament was translated into Greek then Latin which changed the word Hasatan to Satan.

So in the original Hebrew text,
I saw my enemy get defeated

In translated bible
I saw Satan get defeated.

In hebrew text Hasatan means my enemy
So during numerous bible translation the word Hasatan was changed to Satan.

That is how mistranslation of original Hebrew text created the idea of Satan.
It's a mistranslation error

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Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by CanadaOrBust: 2:17am On Apr 09
ChizzyBuna:

God exist
God is all powerful
So to say that there is someone or an angel rebelling or attacking God is blasphemy.

To say God has an undefeated enemy satan till this day is blasphemy.
To say that God up till now can't destroy his enemy Satan is blasphemy.

This is why I don't believe in Satan
Nothing can challenge God.
Nothing can fight with God.

The idea of devil is a human idea created by man to explain why bad things happen.
Since God is good and rightouus
God can't be responsible for bad thing
So who is responsible
This question bothered early Christians.
So a fictional character had to be created to represent the bad and evil things.
Since those bad things can't be attributed to God.
Something or someone had to take the blame.
And so the idea of the bad guy, the boss, the devil was created. To take blame for our animalistic behaviors.

If you kill your friend
They ask you why you did it
You simply blame "the devil"
Why did you steal
The devil made me do it
Why did you kill
The devil made me do it.

So devil was the guy to take blame for our extreme mistakes or evils.

When you do good and succeed
They ask how you did it
You say it was Good

How are you so rich?
It is God's doings

You still haven’t told us why bad things happen
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by CanadaOrBust: 2:20am On Apr 09
ChizzyBuna:

Death is a must for all living things
Death is a process of transformation
From one consciousness to the other

In original form
You were a spirit
Your spirit is attached to your father's sperm
A white liquid
When the sperm meet with egg. It dies
This death is the beginning of a foetus
This foetus grows into a baby
Baby is born
Baby turns to adult, gets old and dies
This death is the beginning of a spirit
The spirit then can come back in sperm
The sperm meets egg and inject itself into egg and dies.
The circle repeats itself.

Death is just a process of transformation from one dimension to another.

How about the other billions of sperm that die without becoming a baby. And what spirit is atttached to the egg. Truth is you have no way of knowing any of if this!
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by CanadaOrBust: 2:28am On Apr 09
Dtruthspeaker:


grin At the bolded! This Truth was what I was trying to elicit from you, Devil is from the word D'Evil just as we say B'day for birthday.

D'Evil is from the word The-Evil! And you have just Admitted in Truth, The Truth that Evil Exist!

Thus, There Is No Evil, without The-Evil just as there is No Wom(b)-Man without man!

So clearly you have just Admitted The Truth The The-Evil Truly Exists and therefore Contradicted yourself in saying "The-Evil does not exist"!


Nonsense.
Here is etymology of “devil”:

devil (n.)
Old English deofol, from Late Latin diabolus (also the source of Italian diavolo, French diable, Spanish diablo; German Teufel is Old High German tiufal, from Latin via Gothic diabaulus).
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by Dtruthspeaker: 6:23am On Apr 09
CanadaOrBust:

Nonsense.
Here is etymology of “devil”:

devil (n.)
Old English deofol, from Late Latin diabolus (also the source of Italian diavolo, French diable, Spanish diablo; German Teufel is Old High German tiufal, from Latin via Gothic diabaulus).

Evil'son, you Must Scream Everytime Truth Comes and Scurry and Scramble as Cockroaches when the Light Comes On!

Son of a Liar, hear what your baby Google also said, (Fool whose teacher and Authority is his baby) for I am sure that you are even older than Google but you would never read, therefore your child, no your servant teaches you.

Allergic to True Knowledge, loving every evil information!

Here also what your servant said

Dictionary.Com
Theology
(sometimes initial capital letter) the supreme spirit of evil; Satan.
a subordinate evil spirit at enmity with God, and having power to afflict humans both with bodily disease and with spiritual corruption.

Now to my library "Changed World, Seasons; Ad Acta Actra peracta; and of course The Best, The Bible!

“And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.”

And it has been Done

The Truth is Now in The Past!

If you want to die some more see https://www.nairaland.com/6306634/truth-past#96923203
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by Dtruthspeaker: 6:42am On Apr 09
ChizzyBuna:

You are confusing yourself
Wordplay can be twisted to form any baseless conclusion.
I can use wordplay like
If you spell "GOD" backwards it means "DOG"
but it doesn't make sense. Just like your wordplay devil twisted to D' evil means devil exist?

grin No I'm not! I have been digging into the True Words Reflection of the meanings of the words we use today for a long time https://www.nairaland.com/6306634/truth-past#96923203 and the word play is called Anagram and generally the flipped word will be a separate word with its own natural meaning, but not in this case.

Take a look at more words I uncovered in my thread https://www.nairaland.com/6306634/truth-past#96923203

Are they not Naturally True! Eg "Just is", D'Fence, D'Day, D'Ceased, D'Ceased etc

I love only Natural Truths and Truths in Nature every other thing that is outside this, is A Lie!
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:43am On Apr 09
Na wah o see brainwashing for God sake!
What you need is reorientation my friend, it's just two persons as in TWO who decides whether you live or die whereas thousands picks up weapons and move ahead with the thought that they are going to defend their families. Instead of thinking about helping this two individuals resolve their differences brainwashed individuals will carry weapons with the intention of killing their fellowman.
I know people are used to this system but if you think deeply over it you'll know that both the attacking soldiers and defending soldiers are not fighting for their own glory but for the glory of the one who is sitting comfortably somewhere commanding them to go and die!
So instead of supporting one side against another why not think of how to resolve it amicably between these two persons?
The truth is whoever pick up weapons against his fellowman is making life more miserable than preferring solutions to the problems on ground.
So SPIRITS are involved in this otherwise there is nothing between me, my family and an Iranian that i can't resolve peaceably with him/her so picking up weapons to kill and get killed is not the solution! smiley


ChizzyBuna:

You are not making any resonable point.
Soldiers are trained to protect and attack. So I don't get why you think a soldier doing his job is spiritism. You are confusing yourself.
You talk as if war is one side affair
Like I said, there are two sides of war
The attacker and the defender.
If Iran decide to attack your country. Will you as a soldier sit back and watch or will you go to warfront to defend and protect your family and country from an attacking army?

So is there spirit involved in soldiers who sacrifice their lives to defend their country from an aggressive attacking enemy.
You see it has nothing to do with spirits
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by Image123(m): 7:16am On Apr 09
ChizzyBuna:

I surrender to the will of God
When He calls me Home
I will gladly go and be at peace with Him

When it's your time it's your time
When you understand this
You will see the irrelevance of your question.
Nobody wan die but they wan go Heaven

i said sleep is incomparable with death when you started comparing the Bible to novels and comics. Now you are all sober about death, lol. Keep writing poems there.
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:31am On Apr 09
Surrendering to God's will means much more than dying because beasts, insects, birds and other creatures will certainly die as well so for an intelligent being like you and i it takes much more than dying to submit to the will of God!


When your son and another kid starts arguing and it's getting to the point where they are about to start fighting to injure each other what do you think is the right thing to do?
Well a right thinking person will call the two kids and settle the matter, make sure they embrace each other and return to their former state as friends because we can't do without neighbours.
So if the same thing should involve two adults is that the time to think of training how to kill? Is that the time to support one side against another?
Lives will be lost, wives will become widows and children will become orphans all because of the choice we make when two persons disagree with each other. What God's word said is a voice was heard saying "give them swords (weapons) so that they may slaughter one another" {Revelations 6:3-4} normally the money used in training soldiers, buying weapons of war and maintenance of a military force should be diverted to production of food and other necessary things to make life sweeter! Isaiah 2:4
That is the will of God for humans like you and i we are not beasts {Revelations 13:1} that aren't endowed with the gift of speech to speak with one another and resolve their differences! smiley

ChizzyBuna:

I surrender to the will of God
When He calls me Home
I will gladly go and be at peace with Him

When it's your time it's your time
When you understand this
You will see the irrelevance of your question.
Nobody wan die but they wan go Heaven
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by ChizzyBuna(m): 2:00pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:

Instead of thinking about helping this two individuals resolve their differences brainwashed individuals will carry weapons with the intention of killing their fellowman.

Bro you're a fake soldier
Your problem is that you view war from a one sided view.
If country A wants war with country B
But country B begs for mercy
Instead country A still decide to go to war
And attack country B.
Country B has been forced to defend themselves and their families from attack.
It's simple logic
There are wars where the 2 countries want to fight. Both countries just want to fight for no reason or to prove power.

There are wars where 1 country decide to invade a weaker country and steal resources.
So as a soldier from a weaker country it's normal logic that you go to war to DEFEND the country that is attacking you. Lay your life to protect your family and citizens.
Since you failed to understand this which is a central code in all military.
I find it very difficult to believe you have stepped foot in the army.

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Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by orunto27: 2:05pm On Apr 09
Chizzy Buna, have you discussed with the father of Jesus?
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by ChizzyBuna(m): 2:13pm On Apr 09
CanadaOrBust:


You still haven’t told us why bad things happen
There are universal laws which Earth obey
The law of polarity (yin/yang)
The law of gravity ( what goes up comes down)
And 5 order more laws
But I want us to focus on the law of polarity.
This means that for every good thing there must be an opposite of that thing.
It is the law of the universe
This laws can't be broken
Law of Polarity in our daily lives
Adam Eve
Man Woman
Up Down
Left Right
Night Day
Hard Soft
Boy Girl
Good Bad
Open Close

Everything in this life has a polarity
This means life has to be balanced 50/50
The world can't be 100% good
At it's best it can be 70% good and 30% evil
That is the recipe of life here on Earth
That's why you have rich countries and poor countries.
Black people White people.
So evil mixed with good is part of the equation that makes life on Earth what it is.
Hydrogen must mix with Oxygen to give =Water
Good must mix with Evil to give= Life Experiences on Earth

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Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by orunto27: 2:18pm On Apr 09
Chizzy Buna, have you discussed with the father of Jesus?


It is Devil on Earth and Satan in Heaven. It's The Chief Engineer of God (Book of Job).

The Conscience of God in you comprises good and evil.

CHRIST IS THE GOOD. SATAN IS THE EVIL.
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by ChizzyBuna(m): 2:21pm On Apr 09
CanadaOrBust:


How about the other billions of sperm that die without becoming a baby. And what spirit is atttached to the egg. Truth is you have no way of knowing any of if this!
Spirit is energy
Energy can't be destroyed it transform from one form to another
I guess you lack knowledge in physics if not you would understand that energy cannot be destroyed.
Those spirits in unsued sperm transform back to spirits.
If you overboil water, the water will disspear as vapors until the pot is empty.
Where did the water go??
It was just transformed from solid water to vapor in the air.
Same with death, it a transformation of energy from human form to spirit form

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Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by ChizzyBuna(m): 2:38pm On Apr 09
orunto27:
Chizzy Buna, have you discussed with the father of Jesus?


It is Devil on Earth and Satan in Heaven. It's The Chief Engineer of God (Book of Job).

The Conscience of God in you comprises good and evil.

CHRIST IS THE GOOD. SATAN IS THE EVIL.
Book of Job is a Parable.
A parable is s fictional story that never happened but it is used to teach about morals of life.
Stories like the rabbit and tortise race
The tortise never raced a rabbit in real life.
It is the moral of the story that is important.
Not the characters in the story.
Another parable is the story of the prodigal son.
The Satan you saw in book of job is a result of mistranslation of bible from Hebrew to Greek.
The original Hebrew text of Book of job talks about an enemy of job meeting God to test jobd faith in God.

Like I said in the original Hebrew text the word "My Enemy" is "Hasatan" which refers to Jobs enemy.
When bible was translated Hasatan was changed to Satan.
So the Satan you see in the translated text is not devil. It is Hasatan which means my enemy in ancient Hebrew.
If you want to say " I have no mercy for my enemies" in ancient Hebrew it will be like this
" I have no mecry for Hasatan"

Now if someone now translated it to Greek
It will be
"I have no mercy for Satan

You see how mistranslation can mean different things.
Bible has been translated many times
Many ancient Hebrew words in the original gospels were mistranslated into different versions
King James bible
Jehovah witness bible
New Jerusalem bible

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Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:50pm On Apr 09
You've not answered my question no wonder you cunningly edited the post.
What exactly could make country A (multitude) just wake up one day to think of going to war against country B if not madness, abeg Spirit dey involve! smiley

ChizzyBuna:

Bro you're a fake soldier
Your problem is that you view war from a one sided view.
If country A wants war with country B
But country B begs for mercy
Instead country A still decide to go to war
And attack country B.
Country B has been forced to defend themselves and their families from attack.
It's simple logic
There are wars where the 2 countries want to fight. Both countries just want to fight for no reason or to prove power.

There are wars where 1 country decide to invade a weaker country and steal resources.
So as a soldier from a weaker country it's normal logic that you go to war to DEFEND the country that is attacking you. Lay your life to protect your family and citizens.
Since you failed to understand this which is a central code in all military.
I find it very difficult to believe you have stepped foot in the army.


Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by FatherOfJesus: 2:53pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:
You've not answered my question no wonder you cunningly edited the post.
What exactly could make country A (multitude) just wake up one day to think of going to war against country B if not madness, abeg Spirit dey involve! smiley

You are trying hard to prove Devil exist so God can exist.

Kill Jerry then the Tom and jerry movie is over.

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Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by Lovelive: 2:59pm On Apr 09
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Why do I believe if I am alive or dead?
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by ChizzyBuna(m): 3:00pm On Apr 09
MaxInDHouse:
You've not answered my question no wonder you cunningly edited the post.
What exactly could make country A (multitude) just wake up one day to think of going to war against country B if not madness, abeg Spirit dey involve! smiley

Countries go to war
For Greed and selfish reasons
For Economic gain
To take natural resources
To expand land and territory

USA attacked iraq in order to take oil
Russia attacked Ukraine to grab extra land and territory.
I can go on and on and on
Everything is not spiritual Mr fake soldier.. lmao

Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:12pm On Apr 09
I asked a simple question:

if your son and another child of your neighbour are arguing bitterly over something and it's about to escalate to fighting, as an adult what will you do?
Will you give them the go ahead to fight it out or resolve it for them amicably?


Let's settle that first before we now think of the SMARTEST idea you'll use when this is about two adults. Whether you'll SMARTLY carry weapons to support one side against another knowing fully well that lives will be lost, so many resources will be destroyed, lots of women will become widows and lots of kids orphans.
Please a SMART opinion from you Sir! cheesy

FatherOfJesus:

You are trying hard to prove Devil exist so God can exist.
Kill Jerry then the Tom and jerry movie is over.
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by FatherOfJesus: 3:12pm On Apr 09
ChizzyBuna:

Countries go to war
For Greed and selfish reasons
For Economic gain
To take natural resources
To expand land and territory

USA attacked iraq in order to take oil
Russia attacked Ukraine to grab extra land and territory.
I can go on and on and on
Everything is not spiritual Mr fake soldier.. lmao

God still doesn’t exist
Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:14pm On Apr 09
Do you think the wives and children of this so called attackers want them to die? cheesy

You said i'm looking at the matter from one side view but i can see that you're weighing thing with a perfect balance view! cheesy


ChizzyBuna:

Countries go to war
For Greed and selfish reasons
For Economic gain
To take natural resources
To expand land and territory

USA attacked iraq in order to take oil
Russia attacked Ukraine to grab extra land and territory.
I can go on and on and on
Everything is not spiritual Mr fake soldier.. lmao

Re: The Devil Doesn't Exist.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:17pm On Apr 09
To him you don't exist! smiley

FatherOfJesus:

God still doesn’t exist

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