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Kill Religion! by Nobody: 6:44am On Apr 26, 2011
Without Religion we can still have a good life.
Lets do away with Religion or give it less importance,
Religions dont preach good family values.We just use our initiatives.

Read the following verses from the Bible and the Koran and tell me where are the Family values

10. God deems it good to punish Babylon by smashing her infant children to bits on the street, so right off the rod we know that the slaughter of children cannot be a priori an evil thing in Biblical morality. (Isaiah 13:16; note that this is an edit from before, see comments)
9. Jesus himself will cause your family and your household to be torn apart, so now we also know that it can't be a priori an evil thing to ruin families in Biblical morality. (Luke 21:16)
8. The sexual enslavement of thousands of children (32,000, to be exact) is OK, as long as God has already told you to murder their families, so we also know that neither genocide or the sexual torture of children is a priori an evil deed in Biblical morality. (Numbers 31:17-18)
7. If you mock or disobey your parents, the birds-of-prey will devour your eyes right out of your head, so the disfigurement of your own children also cannot be a sin. (Proverbs 30:17)
6. If a ruthless dictator doesn't manumit his slaves at the request of a single random soothsayer, the morally good response is to murder the children of everyone in the nation, even if they have never even heard of Moses or his god, so for the Bible moralist it is morally good to punish people for deeds in which they took no part. (Exodus 12:29)
5. A superficial (read: literal) reading of the story of the binding of Isaac makes it clear that your moral duty to obey a pernicious command from above far outweighs any love you might have for your own offspring. In Bible ethics, then, standing up for your own bloodline is not a priori a morally good action. (Genesis 22:2-13)
4. If children make fun of your bald head, the appropriate response is to have them massacred by bears. This way, we know that in Biblical morality, punishments need no proportion to the crimes. (2nd Kings 2:23)
3. If you don't hate your mom, your dad, your siblings, your children, and yourself, Jesus is wrong for you. So in Biblical morality, a cohesive family unit is a moral aberration. (Luke 14:26)
2. If a child is disobedient and doesn't listen to his parents, have the entire town get together and execute him The Lottery-style. There is no exception made here for "19 month old babies who don't say AMEN." (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
1. And of course the most famous father-son relationship in the Bible is God's own: God loves us so much that he would torture and murder his own son to save us from God's own wrath.


O ye who believe! Let not , your children distract you from remembrance of Allah. Those who do so, they are the losers.--63:9

It's OK to have two, three, or four wives, slave or free. 4:3

Males are to inherit twice that of females. 4:11

Lewd women are to be confined to their houses until death. 4:15

You may not forcibly disinherit women, unless they flagrantly lewd. 4:19

Instructions for exchanging wives 4:20

Don't marry women that are already married -- unless they're slaves that you obtained in war. Then it's OK. 4:24

If you can't afford to marry free Muslims women, go ahead and marry slaves, as long as they're Muslims. 4:25a

If your slave wives are guilty of lewdness, punish them half as much as you punish your lewd free wives. 4:25c

Men are in charge of women, because Allah made men to be better than women. Refuse to have sex with women from whom you fear rebellion, and scourge them. 4:34

Vigins await those who enter paradise. 4:57

Men and women are enemies! (Or is it humans and Iblis? Sometimes Allah isn't all that clear about these things.) 7:24

"Your your possessions and children are a test."
(Don't let them get in the way of more important things -- like jihad.) 8:28

Don't make be friends with with your disbelieving family members. Those who do so are wrong-doers. 9:23

If your fathers, and your sons, and your brethren, and your wives , are dearer to you than Allah and His messenger , then wait till Allah bringeth His command to pass." 9:24

Those who refuse to fight for Allah will be treated (along with their children) as unbelievers. 9:85

Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 9:113

Abraham disowned his father for being an enemy of Allah. 9:114

Lot offers his daughters to a mob of angel rapers. 11:78

Lot offers his daughters to a mob of angel rapers. 15:71

Allah tells Abraham in a dream to sacrifice his son. (But is the son Ishmael or Isaac?) 37:102

On the Last Day good Muslims will not love their non-Muslim friends and family members, not even their fathers, sons, or brothers (or their mothers, daughters, or sisters). 58:22

Don't let your children distract you from your duty to Allah. 63:9

Your wives and children are your enemies. They are to you only a temptation. 64:14-15

Instructions for divorcing your wives. 65:1-6

Allah's rules for divorcing wives that have not yet reached puberty. 65:4

O Prophet! Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives?"
Allah says it's OK for Muhammad to have sex with any of his wives whenever he wants. 66:1

Muhammad's wives need to be careful. If they criticize their husband, Allah will replace them with better ones. 66:5

The wives of Noah and Lot (who were both righteous) betrayed their husbands and are now in the Fire. 66:10
Re: Kill Religion! by Nobody: 5:44pm On Apr 26, 2011
Religion: Good or Evil?

By Edgar Pearlstein

Is religion a force for good or for evil? There is evidence both ways, and I don't know how to balance the pluses and minuses.

Certainly religion provides comfort to many people, and perhaps gets some to behave more ethically than they might otherwise. Religions have inspired many great works of art, architecture, and music. They have sponsored charitable, medical, and educational institutions.

On the other hand, religion is divisive and provides impetus for discrimination, cruelty, family breakup, and persecution toward those of different religion. Religion is a medium for some people's hypocrisy. Even murder and child neglect are sometimes ordered by the god.

I am reminded of a quote from Steven Weinberg (Nobel laureate in physics): “With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil — but for good people to do evil — that takes religion.”

People fight and die over religious holy places, some of which are claimed by more than one religion, as in Jerusalem and India.

In some cases religion makes people miserable through arbitrary rules, such as those about divorce, birth control, shunning, and limitations on medical care.

There are also some large-scale horrors to which religion contributed: wars, pogroms, crusades, jihads, persecutions, inquisitions, witch hunts. We have seen these things in old history and some continue today.

Here are just a few of the many examples we have had in very recent times: In the countries of former Yugoslavia, there were Catholic Croats, Orthodox Christian Serbs, and Muslims all at each other. In Lebanon, it was Christian Arabs (supported by Israel) versus Muslim Arabs in a terrible civil war. In India, it is Sikhs and Hindus fighting over a holy place.

Almost every modern religion has at times been the perpetrator and at other times the victim of such evils.

Religion has served as justification, if not the real reason, for slavery, colonialism, and even cruelty to animals.

On another level, it can be argued that religions tend to discourage people from thinking independently and clearly. For religions insist on the Truth of ancient stories and superstitions regardless of any evidence or reasoning that appeared since their origin. The religious mindset of smug rectitude and superiority gets in the way of a mindset toward justice and reason.

“The simple faith of a child”, sometimes glorified by religious people, can be charming in a young child, but is disgraceful in an intelligent adult.

There are many what if questions one can pose (but not answer). Here are a few:

What would the world be like now if there had never been the Crusades, or the Spanish Inquisition?

How different would the United States be today if there had never been religious persecutions in other countries, which sent so many of our ancestors here?

What would the UK be like if Henry VIII hadn't broken so bitterly with the Catholic Church?

What would India-Pakistan be like if there had been no religion-based partition?

How would the world be different if there had not been the religious motivations of people like Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King, and Albert Schweitzer?

Where would scholarship be now if churches hadn't founded such great universities as Harvard and Oxford?

Would we have the music of Johann Sebastian Bach if he hadn't been employed by a church?

Most of this article concerned the past, which, of course, we are powerless to change. A more important question is: Will religion be a force for good or evil in the future?
Re: Kill Religion! by mudleyback: 5:49pm On Apr 26, 2011
i co-sign this powerful thread, but unfortunately our superstitiously inclined brothers and sisters will still spend their time slaughtering eachother in the name of despicably portrayed foreign deities
Re: Kill Religion! by redsun(m): 5:56pm On Apr 26, 2011
Organized religion is for the dejected.Nigeria is predominantly a dejected society.
Re: Kill Religion! by Sunofgod(m): 6:02pm On Apr 26, 2011
Is Christianity a big problem in Nigeria?
Re: Kill Religion! by MrBarzini: 6:08pm On Apr 26, 2011
1 - No man can kill religion. How is that even logically possible?
2 - Kill yourself, religion continues.
3 - You are an imbecyle.
Re: Kill Religion! by adconline(m): 6:28pm On Apr 26, 2011
NL mob will e-lynch you for having this kind of thought. Why does Naija govt sponsor religious pilgrimages to Mecca, Hajj ,Rome and Isreal?

I agree with John Lenon

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
[b]Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too

[/b]Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
Re: Kill Religion! by Arosa(m): 6:33pm On Apr 26, 2011
"Die Religion , ist das Opium des Volkes" karl marx.

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