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The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by SonofLothbrok: 3:22pm On Jun 06, 2021
16 times in the bible, the tithe was mandated by God to be only fruits, vegetables and clean animals; Never money, gold, silver, wages or anything else....Never.

NOWHERE in the bible did God ever transfer ownership of the tithe from the levit to any apostle, prophet, evangelist, shepherd(pastor/bishop), teacher, church, religious organisation or anyone else.

"For there will be a time when people will not tolerate sound teaching. Instead, following their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves, because they have an insatiable curiosity to hear new things." 2 Timothy 4:3.

"Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." 2 Corinthians 9:7
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by advanceDNA: 3:58pm On Jun 06, 2021
SonofLothbrok:
16 times in the bible, the tithe was mandated by God to be only fruits, vegetables and clean animals; Never money, gold, silver, wages or anything else....Never.

NOWHERE in the bible did God ever transfer ownership of the tithe from the levit to any apostle, prophet, evangelist, shepherd(pastor/bishop), teacher, church, religious organisation or anyone else.

"For there will be a time when people will not tolerate sound teaching. Instead, following their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves, because they have an insatiable curiosity to hear new things." 2 Timothy 4:3.

"Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." 2 Corinthians 9:7



Me I know Bible like u oooo..the Israelites gave proceeds of agric becos that’s what they had..
The nation just started...they ddnt have money...remember when they gave initially it was the gold they brought out of Egypt??

If u don’t want to give money now give what u sell

if U sell casket.... give casket as tithe if u want to give tithe?
If u are a banker....give deposit slips and computers...
If u are a fisherman.....give fish....

If someone is forcing u to give..don’t give...pastors don’t even know 95% of their members..so how are they compelling them??
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by AngelicBeing: 4:28pm On Jun 06, 2021
advanceDNA:




Me I know Bible like u oooo..the Israelites gave proceeds of agric becos that’s what they had..
The nation just started...they ddnt have money...remember when they gave initially it was the gold they brought out of Egypt??

If u don’t want to give money now give what u sell

if U sell casket.... give casket as tithe if u want to give tithe?
If u are a banker....give deposit slips and computers...
If u are a fisherman.....give fish....

If someone is forcing u to give..don’t give...pastors don’t even know 95% of their members..so how are they compelling them??


Hahaha, lol at give casket and fish as a tithe, una go kill person with laugh for nairaland.com cheesy

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Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by yomi007k(m): 6:37pm On Jun 06, 2021
AngelicBeing:
Hahaha, lol at give casket and fish as a tithe, una go kill person with laugh for nairaland.com cheesy

Wetin o.losho go give? grin
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by LikeAking: 7:28pm On Jun 06, 2021
Na so life be.

The people we think are solving our problems are the real cause of our problems.
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:52pm On Jun 06, 2021
It was only for the Old Covenant adherents it has nothing to do with the New Covenant.

The tithe was instituted because out of the 13 tribes of Israel God wanted a particular tribe to officiate in his place of worship and be completely dedicated to the task. That's why God commaded Moses not to share any inheritance for the Levites (Moses's own tribe) {Numbers 18:20 compare to Deuteronomy 10:9} God later demanded that the rest of the tribes should work with the inheritance shared to them and whatever they gain (not the total inheritance) should be divided in ten paths and they must bring it to the Levites!
Note even when their place of birth is far away from the Levites God commaded them to sell the tithes turn it to money so that it would be easier to carry then when they to where the Levites are stationed they should by Whatever their hearts desires and give to the Levites (not the money). Deuteronomy 14:26-28

That was how they continued until after the nation was taken to exile in Babylon, and by the time they returned most Jews are no more used to paying tithes. So God sent Malachi to remind them that if they fail to pay the usual ten part which He commaded to be given to the Levites since these ones weren't shared any inheritance then they are like robbers! Malachi 3:8-10

But when the New Covenant began with Christianity nobody is to be paid for selfless service Jesus gave us {Matthew 10:8} so we must all work for our daily needs. 2Thessalonians 3:10

Yet some Jewish Christians are still going to pay tithes in the Temple as commaded under the Old Covenant, this was what prompted Apostle Paul to write a letter that it was before Christ that the tithe was meaningful but after Christ there is no need to pay anybody for the worship that's FREE! Hebrews 7:5-12

That's why you can't see anything having to do with tithes in the New Testament amongst the Christians, because only those living within the Jewish community that were confused regarding tithing and Paul has written a letter to correct their wrong thinking!

God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley


SonofLothbrok:
16 times in the bible, the tithe was mandated by God to be only fruits, vegetables and clean animals; Never money, gold, silver, wages or anything else....Never.

NOWHERE in the bible did God ever transfer ownership of the tithe from the levit to any apostle, prophet, evangelist, shepherd(pastor/bishop), teacher, church, religious organisation or anyone else.

"For there will be a time when people will not tolerate sound teaching. Instead, following their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves, because they have an insatiable curiosity to hear new things." 2 Timothy 4:3.

"Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." 2 Corinthians 9:7
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by Kobojunkie: 2:06am On Jun 07, 2021
advanceDNA:
Me I know Bible like u oooo..the Israelites gave proceeds of agric becos that’s what they had..
The nation just started...they ddnt have money...remember when they gave initially it was the gold they brought out of Egypt??

If u don’t want to give money now give what u sell

if U sell casket.... give casket as tithe if u want to give tithe?
If u are a banker....give deposit slips and computers...
If u are a fisherman.....give fish....

If someone is forcing u to give..don’t give...pastors don’t even know 95% of their members..so how are they compelling them??
Are you an Israelite? Do you realize that when you do that which is not commanded of you by God pretending you do so in His name, you curse yourself? undecided
God made that agreement with the Israelites, not you. The only agreement He made with you is Jesus Christ which does include a tithe Law. When you "add" a tithe Law of your own to the agreement, Jesus Christ, you nullify the power 0f God in your life(curse) and you also render your worship of God meaningless(curse). undecided
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by Kobojunkie: 2:07am On Jun 07, 2021
yomi007k:
Wetin o.losho go give? grin
You better pass o.losho? undecided
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by Kobojunkie: 2:11am On Jun 07, 2021
SonofLothbrok:
16 times in the bible, the tithe was mandated by God to be only fruits, vegetables and clean animals; Never money, gold, silver, wages or anything else....Never.

NOWHERE in the bible did God ever transfer ownership of the tithe from the levit to any apostle, prophet, evangelist, shepherd(pastor/bishop), teacher, church, religious organisation or anyone else.

"For there will be a time when people will not tolerate sound teaching. Instead, following their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves, because they have an insatiable curiosity to hear new things." 2 Timothy 4:3.
I once heard TD Jake's claim that God allowed the first Christian's establish their own tithing system in the book of Acts, as explanation for why the tithing system in his church does not in any way mirror God's in the Old Covenant. undecided
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by advanceDNA: 7:34am On Jun 07, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Are you an Israelite? Do you realize that when you do that which is not commanded of you by God pretending you do so in His name, you curse yourself? undecided
God made that agreement with the Israelites, not you. The only agreement He made with you is Jesus Christ which does include a tithe Law. When you "add" a tithe Law of your own to the agreement, Jesus Christ, you nullify the power 0f God in your life(curse) and you also render your worship of God meaningless(curse). undecided


Nearly everything in the Bible is the record of other people concerning their encounter with God almighty .

How they handled issues...
How they praised, honor God
How they worshiped God
Seek counsel...


So we emulate them, from Abraham to Jesus, and his disciples...so ur talk about doing what God Didn’t command like it’s evil is just trash....
Abraham paid tithe
Jacob did the same, in fact, he did it with a covenant mentality in genesis 28... it’s a good thing they did..it’s a way of honoring And giving thanks to God as seen from Jacob in genesis 28(the last few verses)...emulating them as our fathers of faith isn’t a sin nor does it bring curse...(

The Israelites after them emulated it...clearly tithing ddnt even start with the people that came out of Egypt... so it’s not like it’s a law issue...they too emulated it from the fore fathers...

The scribes also Asked Jesus about it..and Jesus ddnt condemn it ... he only said we shouldn’t focus on tithe and forget other important things

Bros, If you don’t want to give or pay tithe ...limit your giving to 100 -200 naira per envelope u put in the offering bag...

but trying to justify your line of thought with we are not Israelites is just lame...
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by Kobojunkie: 8:04am On Jun 07, 2021
advanceDNA:

Nearly everything in the Bible is the record of other people concerning their encounter with God almighty .

How they handled issues...
How they praised, honor God
How they worshiped God
Seek counsel...


So we emulate them, from Abraham to Jesus, and his disciples...so ur talk about doing what God Didn’t command like it’s evil is just trash....
Abraham paid tithe
Jacob did the same, in fact, he did it with a covenant mentality in genesis 28... it’s a good thing they did..it’s a way of honoring And giving thanks to God as seen from Jacob in genesis 28(the last few verses)...emulating them as our fathers of faith isn’t a sin nor does it bring curse...(

The Israelites after them emulated it...clearly tithing ddnt even start with the people that came out of Egypt... so it’s not like it’s a law issue...they too emulated it from the fore fathers...

The scribes also Asked Jesus about it..and Jesus ddnt condemn it ... he only said we shouldn’t focus on tithe and forget other important things

Bros, If you don’t want to give or pay tithe ...limit your giving to 100 -200 naira per envelope u put in the offering bag...

but trying to justify your line of thought with we are not Israelites is just lame...
But God never called you to emulating Israel or anyone of the Israelites. He instructed you never to put your trust in any man, not bind yourself to flesh and blood in such a way as to make such your strength. God called you, a gentile, to emulating one and only one, Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law, the agreement He made with you. undecided

So why do you go around emulating those He did not call or bind you to? undecided
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by advanceDNA: 8:14am On Jun 07, 2021
Kobojunkie:
But God never called you to emulating Israel or anyone of the Israelites. He instructed you never to put your trust in any man, not bind yourself to flesh and blood in such a way as to make such your strength. God called you, a gentile, to emulating one and only one, Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law, the agreement He made with you. undecided

So why do you go around emulating those He did not call or bind you to? undecided

read your Bible well sir...the Gospel was first preached to Abraham by God almighty himself and he believed..so stop making Abraham look like one inconsequential person

So becos I obey God the way father Abraham did...means I put my trust in man...
Guy your don’t have point ...seem you are just dancing around with words and looking for justification for your line of thought
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by Kobojunkie: 1:56am On Jun 09, 2021
advanceDNA:

read your Bible well sir...the Gospel was first preached to Abraham by God almighty himself and he believed..so stop making Abraham look like one inconsequential person

So becos I obey God the way father Abraham did...means I put my trust in man...
Guy your don’t have point ...seem you are just dancing around with words and looking for justification for your line of thought
1. Where in the book of Genesis do you find God preaching the Gospel to Abraham?

2. How can you obey God the way Abraham did when you dont have the specifics of the commandment that existed between God and Abraham. For example, how many laws were contained in the agreement, what blessings and curses etc. undecided
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by advanceDNA: 2:27am On Jun 09, 2021
Kobojunkie:
1. Where in the book of Genesis do you find God preaching the Gospel to Abraham?

2. How can you obey God the way Abraham did when you dont have the specifics of the commandment that existed between God and Abraham. For example, how many laws were contained in the agreement, what blessings and curses etc. undecided


Gal 3v7-8
Galatians 3:7 Know and understand that it is the people who live by faith who are sons of Abraham.

And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed

Mr kobojunkie...even if Paul didn’t remind u in Galatians...u are not aware that God had told abraham of the coming of the messiah..??

Like I said..u are just dancing around with words... first u twisted my comment and said I’m trusting in man...

Now u are saying I’m obeying God without the specifics of Commandment between God and abraham.

U have a funny way of justifying your points..

I don’t have to have know all the things God said to abraham...the Bible didn’t capture all accounts of biblical times in the first place...so u don’t have a point here...

Abraham did many good things...
He interceded for sodom and Gomorrah
He obeyed God
He beloved God
He trusted God
He gave tithe
Etc.

So if I intercede for someone or a nation like Abraham did..it means I have done wrong...It means I am looking for curses...??

Oga... let’s have it ur way... since ur way is the only correct way...
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by Kobojunkie: 5:51pm On Jun 09, 2021
advanceDNA:

Gal 3v7-8
Galatians 3:7 Know and understand that it is the people who live by faith who are sons of Abraham.

And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed

Mr kobojunkie...even if Paul didn’t remind u in Galatians...u are not aware that God had told abraham of the coming of the messiah..??

Like I said..u are just dancing around with words... first u twisted my comment and said I’m trusting in man...

Now u are saying I’m obeying God without the specifics of Commandment between God and abraham.

U have a funny way of justifying your points..

I don’t have to have know all the things God said to abraham...the Bible didn’t capture all accounts of biblical times in the first place...so u don’t have a point here...

Abraham did many good things...
He interceded for sodom and Gomorrah
He obeyed God
He beloved God
He trusted God
He gave tithe
Etc.

So if I intercede for someone or a nation like Abraham did..it means I have done wrong...It means I am looking for curses...??

Oga... let’s have it ur way... since ur way is the only correct way...
You didn't answer any of the questions I asked you. Again..
Kobojunkie:
1. Where in the book of Genesis do you find God preaching the Gospel to Abraham? undecided

2. How can you obey God the way Abraham did when you dont have the specifics of the commandment that existed between God and Abraham. For example, how many laws were contained in the agreement, what blessings and curses etc. undecided
I dont understand what you do not understand about what I have stated so far on this. undecided

God made a Covenant with Abraham and Abraham lived according to the specifics of that Covenant. The Covenant God made with you however is Jesus Christ and God expects you to live according to the details of that Law He has specifically give to you - not the one He gave to someone else. undecided

Seeking to obey God according to how you assume Abraham did it and not according to how Jesus Christ told you you ought to instead is akin to telling God your way is beter6. undecided

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Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by petra1(m): 6:32pm On Jun 09, 2021
SonofLothbrok:
16 times in the bible, the tithe was mandated by God to be only fruits, vegetables and clean animals; Never money, gold, silver, wages or anything else....Never.

tithe is given of all things . cash inclusuve. was Abraham tithe given with vegetables?

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Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by OkCornel(m): 7:35pm On Jun 09, 2021
petra1:


tithe is given of all things . cash inclusuve. was Abraham tithe given with vegetables?

Did Abraham give any tithe beyond war spoils? And if I recall, he returned 90% of the warspoils to the rightful owner. Is that the example believers should follow?

Give 10% of war booty and return 90% to the rightful owners?
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by petra1(m): 8:19pm On Jun 09, 2021
[quote author=OkCornel post=102554583]

Did Abraham give any tithe beyond war spoils? yes . it was a faith culture

he returned 90% of the warspoils to the rightful owner. Is that the example believers should follow?

its was his choice . hes the rightful owner . he gave tithes and gave the rest out as a faith demonstration . so that yhe king woukd not boast on making abraham rich.

Give 10% of war booty

thats tithe

and return 90% to the rightful owners?

thats choice
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by OkCornel(m): 9:04pm On Jun 09, 2021
[quote author=petra1 post=102555966][/quote]

Fair enough, believers should tithe as they choose and not be deceived with Malachi 3 v 8-11 which was contingent on the mandatory tithing requirements of the Mosaic Law, rather than the one-off free will tithe from war spoils performed by Abraham.
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by petra1(m): 9:25pm On Jun 09, 2021
OkCornel:


Fair enough, believers should tithe as they choose and not be deceived with Malachi 3 v 8-11 which was contingent on the mandatory tithing requirements of the Mosaic Law, rather than the one-off free will tithe from war spoils performed by Abraham.

Christian are not under the law . Tithes and offerings are spiritual principles as well as alms giving , as well as prayer and Fasting etc these are all principles
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by OkCornel(m): 3:30am On Jun 10, 2021
petra1:


Christian are not under the law . Tithes and offerings are spiritual principles as well as alms giving , as well as prayer and Fasting etc these are all principles

As well as circumcision, animal sacrifice and polygamy too right? All these also happened before the law.

Free will Spirit led giving from a cheerful heart should be the standard for new covenant believers.

All these tithe and offerings talk doesn’t concern a new believer… well unless you can show us examples of Christians (especially those of non-Jewish origin) that tithed in the Scriptures.
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by Kobojunkie: 4:04am On Jun 10, 2021
petra1:
Christian are not under the law . Tithes and offerings are spiritual principles as well as alms giving , as well as prayer and Fasting etc these are all principles
1. You say Christian's are not under the Law but aren't principles essentially laws? Or maybe I should ask instead what exactly are principles if not laws, a collection of which is then group as Law? undecided

2. Where are these "spiritual principles" defined? undecided

3. God is Spirit so everything Spirit is defined by Him so tell us where did God define these "spiritual principles" for man ? undecided
Re: The Tithe And Lies By False Preachers by Dtruthspeaker: 6:07am On Jun 10, 2021
yomi007k:


Wetin o.losho go give? grin

Na she go Receive "Stones" until she. die.

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