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Science and Religion by Nobody: 2:24pm On Jun 15, 2021 |
Just in case you haven't figured it out yet: Science speaks, record or document what we have seen (observed) happened over-and-over again in the real-world. Whereas, Religion on the other hand speaks, record or document people's thoughts, feeling or emotions about the real-world. So, in essence, science tells us what the world is like when we looked, but religion is about what they think the world should/shouldn't be like. Here's example: Religion: There's God. Science: You don't know that because we lacked a concrete proof at presence. Religion: You're not serious, the proof is us! - something must create something. Science: Yea - base on our common experience, but if we may ask: who created God? Religion: God was never created or s/he created itself. Science: So, we can as well say that the Cosmos can create itself? Religion: No! You can't because the Cosmos is Not God, but was created by God. Science: Serious?, why invoked the 'special plead' for God ONLY? Religion: Because it's God. Can you tell us what consciousness is or where you are when you fall asleep? These are things that science cannot explained, so they are the workings and proof of God existence. Science: Now you are also taking gaps in scientific theories as proof for a God existence? Religion: Of course! How else can you explain that. Science: We are not sure. Yes, we admit that there are stuffs about the Cosmos that we cannot explain at presence, still there's no sign of a God everywhere we've looked. Also remember that science is a process, you can remember that they were stuffs in the past we couldn't explained but we have explanation for them now (e.g day/night, rainfall, lightening...), so maybe someday we might be able to explain consciousness and all the rest that are currently unexplained now like gravity. Religion: Unless God gives you the power, you would not! Science: Hmmm Religion: Better repent ASAP and follow the ways of the Lord (Christians will add: before the sound of the trumpet). Science:
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Re: Science and Religion by Nobody: 10:33pm On Jun 15, 2021 |
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Re: Science and Religion by Nobody: 9:37am On Jun 16, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: Oh! Now you think Religion is doing the same thing as Science, but just a bit differently, right? Let's assumed for a moment that you're right. But science has something called empericism (which is analogous to Evidence Act in Law - a decipline you mentioned previously) and a laboratory such that, those thing we have observed about the world can easily be reproduced (replay) for anyone direct experience. For example, if you want to be sure whether the Earth "as-a-whole" is round Not flat as most religious/some people in general thought in the past. All you have to do is travel to Russia and buy at ROSCOMOS, Soyruz tickets for the ISS (too and from is $128m) - it can be sold to anyone who wants to experience science firsthand and who can afford the transportation cost, which also covers feeding. For more than 10 years now since the US (NASA) retired the space shuttle, Russia has been the only superpower capable of such feat, as their space shuttle outlived those of the US in many year after the Cold War, until SpaceX came along about a year ago, but I don't think they offered that provision (civilian trip to the ISS), so Russia is where to go, besides, the ISS was their (ROSCOSMOS) conception before the US (NASA) and others came along. Where can I go to witness your record regarding resurrection for example? 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Science and Religion by Nobody: 4:15pm On Jun 16, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: It would seem you are here to win a argument. I AM NOT HERE TO WIN ANY ARGUMENT with a religious fanatic or lunatic, but to learn. If you are ask for example: what is the shape of the Earth? The inquirer wants to know how the Earth looks as a WHOLE! The phenomena that you have described for a huge sphere, which looks locally flat is know as a MANIFOLD in Mathematics/Physics or the Elephat-effect in certain areas of Philosophy. But that doesn't makes those in the past right, naturally whether they are aware that the Earth is a manifold or not. If for instance there were to build a long bridge between villiages with concrete, such won't last long without compensating for the Earth's curvature. Also, if they were to set in motion whatsoever they had placed on the earth's rolling, the object would follow the shortest path, which in Euclidean Geometry is a Straightline but in General Relativity, it's a curve and in Reality/Actuality is a curve. But here's the crucial question the two of you omitted: Religions, especially the most popular talks of raising people from the death with powers from God. So, How can I experience this claimed (resurrection)? or Is God no more? |
Re: Science and Religion by Dtruthspeaker: 9:13pm On Jun 16, 2021 |
budaatum: See, a Liar shall Always Lie, budaatum, the Liartuum, the Satanson! See your statement in proof it is you who called the Unatural square root "a mystery", he Satanspawn! budaatum: I clearly said square root is deceitful "Neither is Square Root seen or Used in Nature, So where did it come from? I have told you before one of the most destructive weapons in this world is True-Lies or Lies-Truths or Half-Truths or Half-Lies." And of course Satan and his children cry out when Lies are destroyed. BUT I NEVER SAID IT "IS A MYSTERY" but budaatum the Serpentum must always be the Liartum! And of course I will choose beheading than to be ever joined with you, Satan. |
Re: Science and Religion by budaatum: 12:33am On Jun 17, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: You are "here to establish only that which is True as there are so many lies flying around" even though "it is impossible for any human person to properly supply a True report about the whole view of the earth"? buda is pleased to see you realise you are human and therefore understand how impossible it is for you to "properly supply a True report"! Your new found humility is befitting. Dtruthspeaker:Jesus would say "The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eye is dim all your senses would be useless". A scientist would say "as far as we currently know or understand", so as not to continue believing in light of further evidence, so I don't think I need to say which observer is more valid since we all have the eyes to see with! Dtruthspeaker:Oh come on dt. Surely this is where you claim you are a lawyer and so must be on a higher pay grade than everyone else! Or is that not why you are "here to establish only that which is True as there are so many lies flying around which are not properly challenged and destroyed"? |
Re: Science and Religion by budaatum: 12:40am On Jun 17, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: Isn't the following mysterious enough for you? Dtruthspeaker: It does show how little you understand! |
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