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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by oliverano: 11:22am On Sep 10, 2023
jpmoriarti:
Injuries are inevitable in any player's career. It is even part of the career. It's all about proper management of the injury and what caused the injury.

[b]Barcelona grossly mismanaged Ansu Fati injury, [/b]reason it lingered on and caused him confidence loss. I blame the club for everything Ansu went through. It shouldn't have degraded to this extent yet it did. I hope we have learned the lessons 🙏

If there's a player whose progress was well managed at Barca, it has to be Fati. At no point was he rushed or over played. Even when he was banging goals, we had Messi to always take the pressure off. When he returned, he was always slowly introduced into the game. I heard, like Umtiti, Fati had his meniscus removed so that could be the case.

Remember, unlike Bojan and Pedri, Fati's setback was a contact injury not fatigue or muscle problems due to being overplayed.

Let's see what Fati can do in the future. We still hoping on him. For Yamal, I think he'll be well managed because we have professionals like Raph and Ferran in his position.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by oliverano: 11:28am On Sep 10, 2023
Culer:
I don't think he's gonna be a difference maker for us tbh.

Frenkie on the other hand, is the most decisive midfielder in our team right now. He's gonna be really important for us this season.

Frenkie is playing his best football right now so yeah he'll be very important. For Gundo, I can't say but I think he'll be very important when we have runners. Remember he's the through pass maestro. Remember his assist to Pedri and his through passes at city and Dortmund.

We lack runners and that's what is affecting his game. I think he'll be important once we have runners like RoKay and Ferrran in the team.

He'll make a difference but it's up to Xavi to put in runners and stop playing with four static midfielders.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 12:00pm On Sep 10, 2023
oliverano:


If there's a player whose progress was well managed at Barca, it has to be Fati. At no point was he rushed or over played. Even when he was banging goals, we had Messi to always take the pressure off. When he returned, he was always slowly introduced into the game. I heard, like Umtiti, Fati had his meniscus removed so that could be the case.

Remember, unlike Bojan and Pedri, Fati's setback was a contact injury not fatigue or muscle problems due to being overplayed.

Let's see what Fati can do in the future. We still hoping on him. For Yamal, I think he'll be well managed because we have professionals like Raph and Ferran in his position.
When I said mismanaged, I meant the 5 repeated surgeries that were performed on his knee. This is enough to cause anyone to lose confidence in their body.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by oliverano: 12:10pm On Sep 10, 2023
jpmoriarti:
When I said mismanaged, I meant the 5 repeated surgeries that were performed on his knee. This is enough to cause anyone to lose confidence in their body.

Okay, you're more clear now!
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 12:13pm On Sep 10, 2023
oliverano:


Okay, you're more clear now!
And when you previously said Ansu Fati had Messi and all to take pressure off him, then I have to take you back to the Celta game after Barca sacked Ronald Koeman. Ansu had just came back or rushed back from the over 1 year injury he suffered, which was worsened by multiple surgeries, we were sitting 9th in the league and desperately needed a savior.

Ansu was thrust straight into the starting lineup because we had no one to score the goals. We led 3 - 0 in that match, after Ansu Fati had another scoring return, then he succumbed again to the injury. We later drew that game 3 - 3 and nearly lost. Remember he was only 17 - 18 years at this time.

So yes, the pressure at Barca and Barca herself, contributed to cutting short Ansu Fati's progress to becoming a lethal goal scorer everyone hoped he might become.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by akeeng: 5:07pm On Sep 10, 2023
Culer:
true that.
He's never been great for Germany even during his city days.
Pep's system probably accentuated his quality? 🤔

Do I know who this is?

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 10:59pm On Sep 10, 2023
BykeLaByke:

Say I be German or wetin?

Allow me run my agenda in peace.
None of those four goals were directly his fault, playing with a defence and defensive structure that's wider than Lagos-ibadan expressway also didn't help matters so chill with ya agenda this time chief
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 11:00pm On Sep 10, 2023
No matter what happens this season Lewy should be tried to be shipped to Saudi next time
Senior man don try, make he and him lolo go chop petrodollars for desert next year
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Oldboss(m): 1:12am On Sep 11, 2023
Kilishihunter:

None of those four goals were directly his fault, playing with a defence and defensive structure that's wider than Lagos-ibadan expressway also didn't help matters so chill with ya agenda this time chief
Rudiger was like a stature after 3-0 I changed they channel they game was frustrating.
But mehh u saw this Wirtz if only we can drag him with city next year
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by abduleez1(m): 11:42am On Sep 11, 2023
Oldboss:

Rudiger was like a stature after 3-0 I changed they channel they game was frustrating.
But mehh u saw this Wirtz if only we can drag him with city next year

There's a rumor Barca is going BIG next year...
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Bimmarlykay(m): 12:04pm On Sep 11, 2023
oliverano:


Saw the game but didn't complete it. Germany had possession in their own half did absolutely nothing with it.

For Germany, Gundo has been nothing short of abysmal. So lackluster walahi...



I once talked about his national career, the guy ain't doing well nationally,but thank God he is delivering for us.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by pkasso(m): 3:48pm On Sep 11, 2023
Kilishihunter:
No matter what happens this season Lewy should be tried to be shipped to Saudi next time
Senior man don try, make he and him lolo go chop petrodollars for desert next year
Udonmeanit?! The same Lewy? Polish Terminator? Goalscorer extraordinaire? Make Andrew no hear am for your mouth oh grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 9:34pm On Sep 11, 2023
Just tell me how Ronaldo will not have most international goals playing these minions of players.


Messi go don score like 400
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nigeriagood(m): 11:51am On Sep 12, 2023
Friendly reminder
Barcelona is still in debt
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by mostob(m): 11:57am On Sep 12, 2023
Nigeriagood:
Friendly reminder
Barcelona is still in debt
Oya...go use this information collect money from bank.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nigeriagood(m): 12:13pm On Sep 12, 2023
mostob:
Oya...go use this information collect money from bank.
but it's true o 😂😂
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nigeriagood(m): 12:13pm On Sep 12, 2023
Chelsea can buy Barcelona for 20mill if you think about it 🤔
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 4:19pm On Sep 12, 2023
jpmoriarti:
Injuries are inevitable in any player's career. It is even part of the career. It's all about proper management of the injury and what caused the injury.

Barcelona grossly mismanaged Ansu Fati injury, reason it lingered on and caused him confidence loss. I blame the club for everything Ansu went through. It shouldn't have degraded to this extent yet it did. I hope we have learned the lessons 🙏
There is so much information on this that it is absurd that people don't know. Fati's injury woes are all the handiwork of Barca's mad injury management
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 6:03pm On Sep 12, 2023
IKON360:

There is so much information on this that it is absurd that people don't know. Fati's injury woes are all the handiwork of Barca's mad injury management
Exactly what I have been saying. How can you perform same surgery for same injury a record 5 times, and you tell me everything is fine with the system?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 6:38pm On Sep 12, 2023
pkasso:
Udonmeanit?! The same Lewy? Polish Terminator? Goalscorer extraordinaire? Make Andrew no hear am for your mouth oh grin
The spirit is willing but the body seems weak egbon, We're not you guys with a more vertical and direct style of play plus also muller to feed him behind yet we still create a sizable degree of chances which he mostly wastes coupled with his deteriorating all round general play which we didn't witness in the first half of last season
I still believe he can turn things around and have another successful season with us but I as a fan have decided to view him for what he is, A short term fix
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 6:41pm On Sep 12, 2023
Oldboss:

Rudiger was like a stature after 3-0 I changed they channel they game was frustrating.
But mehh u saw this Wirtz if only we can drag him with city next year
Na mostly vardrid fans dey drag am for football Twitter after our fanbase did the same for bellingham vs Ukraine, Even some of the Bayern fan accounts were lenient to MATS, Anyone who watched that game from start to finish without any obvious agenda would be single him out as the obvious scapegoat
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 6:49pm On Sep 12, 2023
IKON360:

There is so much information on this that it is absurd that people don't know. Fati's injury woes are all the handiwork of Barca's mad injury management
So what of bojan, dembele and Pedri too, It was Barça's mad injury management?
The sooner we realize some players are naturally injury prone the better, Ansu has been quite injury prone since his juvenil A days you can go and confirm, I don't see where Barça's fault is in Mandi giving him a career threatening injury against betis or he and his family refusing to go for another surgery for a more conservative treatment the last time out, Some injuries issues are hereditary and ingrained in the DNA reading/bone density while the others are mostly dieting problems on the part of the player, Hope you know his meniscus has been cut off during one of this injury spells?
Since I've started supporting this club in 05 I've not seen any player as well protected and treated like an egg after various injury mishaps like ansu, not even dembele or Messi, I'll have you know players with this kind of problems are mostly thrown out after the second or third reoccurrence like this but we still loaned him out without a purchase option because of belief in his earlier promise
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 8:04pm On Sep 12, 2023
jpmoriarti:
Exactly what I have been saying. How can you perform same surgery for same injury a record 5 times, and you tell me everything is fine with the system?
Fati was badly managed.
Whoever the medical team was that forced that boy, should be sacked immediately
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 8:06pm On Sep 12, 2023
Kilishihunter:

So what of bojan, dembele and Pedri too, It was Barça's mad injury management?
The sooner we realize some players are naturally injury prone the better, Ansu has been quite injury prone since his juvenil A days you can go and confirm, I don't see where Barça's fault is in Mandi giving him a career threatening injury against betis or he and his family refusing to go for another surgery for a more conservative treatment the last time out, Some injuries issues are hereditary and ingrained in the DNA reading/bone density while the others are mostly dieting problems on the part of the player, Hope you know his meniscus has been cut off during one of this injury spells?
Since I've started supporting this club in 05 I've not seen any player as well protected and treated like an egg after various injury mishaps like ansu, not even dembele or Messi, I'll have you know players with this kind of problems are mostly thrown out after the second or third reoccurrence like this but we still loaned him out without a purchase option because of belief in his earlier promise
Bro, you are missing the point.
How many times has Fati's knee been cut open? How many times has been meniscus been cut?
I'll bring you a short video from Tifo football so you can understand what we are talking about.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 8:08pm On Sep 12, 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er_XKTU_5KQ?si=14eb9V0r5EbJHimt

The video is less than 6 minutes long and is quite indicative of how badly Fati's treatment and recovery was handled
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 8:22pm On Sep 12, 2023
IKON360:

Bro, you are missing the point.
How many times has Fati's knee been cut open? How many times has been meniscus been cut?
I'll bring you a short video from Tifo football so you can understand what we are talking about.
How I am missing the point? I've told you fati has been an injury prone player since his Lamasia days, you can check it out
So in your opinion what do you think the club should have done to help him? I don't believe you didn't see or read about the extent of Mandi's career ending tackle to his knee, Incident that kept him out for over a year of action bro
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 8:28pm On Sep 12, 2023
IKON360:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er_XKTU_5KQ?si=14eb9V0r5EbJHimt

The video is less than 6 minutes long and is quite indicative of how badly Fati's treatment and recovery was handled
It's easy to get a device and record videos if you're not the one tasked with performing surgery on a player, Fati was operated upon by one of the best knee specialists in the world, he was the one who had to later take the pain staking decision of cutting out his meniscus after seeing how badly damaged it was
My comments might come across as me not feeling sympathy for ansu but in my opinion I don't see how the club would have done better concerning this lad's nightmarish injuries bro
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 8:37pm On Sep 12, 2023
Gundogan off injured.
Back injury
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by funkyjms: 8:54pm On Sep 12, 2023
Kilishihunter:
Gundogan off injured.

32 years. I'm not surprised sha.
He is just a stopgap measure.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 9:02pm On Sep 12, 2023
funkyjms:


32 years. I'm not surprised sha.
He is just a stopgap measure.
For sure but he was also meant to be our Pedri alternative in terms of creativity
Now we've lost them both to badass injuries, Fingers crossed for gavi this night
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 9:23pm On Sep 12, 2023
Shark 🦈 scores
Second Barça player to score this night

Meanwhile Nico Williams as an option for our LW next season no go bad at all cause I'm not sure we'll sign Felix except he performs to consistent optimum levels
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 9:27pm On Sep 12, 2023
Kilishihunter:

How I am missing the point? I've told you fati has been an injury prone player since his Lamasia days, you can check it out
So in your opinion what do you think the club should have done to help him? I don't believe you didn't see or read about the extent of Mandi's career ending tackle to his knee, Incident that kept him out for over a year of action bro
The injury is not what kept Fati out for a year, what kept him out was Barca's handling of the injury.
Fati is not the first player to have a tear in his meniscus and there are worse injuries than meniscus tears.
Barca didn't handle Fati's recovery properly.
Watch the video

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