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Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by frankson1(m): 7:51am On Aug 13, 2021
naptu2:


Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Those are patrol boats! Is there any country that does not have patrol boats?? You can actually see the "P" written on its side!

Kai!





If only the man you responded to will listen to you.

Lots of them disgrace themselves online with trash comments they make. This goes to show that they no nothing and have no idea about anything, yet they still choose to say something. Imagine the number of likes he got to show you that his likes are in numbers here.


Good morning Sir

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Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by Omeizadean(m): 7:52am On Aug 13, 2021
Salem69:
Good efforts made to tackle insecurity at sea, still yet to see the Nigerian army do same on land

U have phone and eyes yet u re still not informed

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Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by evil1: 7:53am On Aug 13, 2021
Funny thing is that they will pick the intelligent ones for the training then on return to base, post them to one small remote area or probably a small redundant work space.

While the trigger happy ones HV just one regular military training
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by GeneralPula: 7:54am On Aug 13, 2021
naptu2:
Please read this thread to see why exercises like this are important. This is the story of Boris Oyebanji, a Nigerian mariner, whose ship was hijacked by pirates from the Niger Delta while he was sailing off the coast of Equatorial Guinea (he had to have a Nigerian Navy escort when he left Nigeria, but the Navy ship returned to base when he got to Equato-Guinean waters. The pirates attacked after the Nigerian Navy ship had left).

The pirates then used him to attack another ship (I think it was a Spanish ship), then the Equato-Guinean Navy mistook him for a pirate and he was detained. The Nigerians authorities had to use a lot of diplomatic effort to get him released.


https://www.nairaland.com/5518033/boris-oyebanji-kidnapped-pirates-mistakenly

Wow..

But these sea pirates, do they usually hide under water? grin

They’re one of the maddest criminals ever liveth
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by PoTTV: 7:56am On Aug 13, 2021
COdeGenesis:

Leave me lemme rant my rant
oga ranter. No go turn to rat !!!
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by PoTTV: 8:01am On Aug 13, 2021
NoFucksToGive:


Tackle which insecurity? When as a nation you allowed known criminals like Ateke amass weapons and warships in Gbaramatu what security at sea are you looking for ?
Do you mean warship or "worship"
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by Cryto(m): 8:03am On Aug 13, 2021
I no understand ship no get tracker,
For them to trace hijack ship
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by Omeizadean(m): 8:07am On Aug 13, 2021
NazareneMonk:
Do we really have insecurity vat sea presently? It's just a little compared to land, these people get plan jare. Them dey map the NDA boys slowly. I think 2023 election might not hold. Someone might use the excuse to reintroduce military rule.

Whether there is insecurity at the sea or not a country can't leave his maritime border porous like that. Naija can't deploy all her forces to go and fight terrorists in the North if that's what u re thinking. If anything happen to other regions of the country while doing that u all will still shout favorism.

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Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by Poloyanabo2(m): 8:10am On Aug 13, 2021
naptu2:


Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Those are patrol boats! Is there any country that does not have patrol boats?? You can actually see the "P" written on its side!

Kai!
Those are patrol boats right?
But does Nigeria have any destroyer or state of the art Warships?
Only patrol boats and a Non-functional frigate called NNS Aradu,
Nigeria Navy has a long way to go to sufficiently qualify as a blue water Navy,
For now they are a brown water Navy and power projection capability is lacking.
Egyptian Navy has Submarines and Helicopter carriers, SA Navy has Submarines even as small as Equador, their Navy has a submarine.
Nigeria's military as a whole needs to grow up, it needs overhauling.
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by Nobody: 8:11am On Aug 13, 2021
naptu2:



Mtschew https://www.bairdmaritime.com/work-boat-world/maritime-security-world/naval/ships-naval/nigerian-frigate-back-in-service-two-years-after-grounding/

https://www.fleetmon.com/vessels/nns-thunder_0_2410144/?language=en

https://beegeagle./2011/11/21/nigerias-latest-frigate-nns-thunder-departs-the-usa/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NNS_Thunder_(F90)

Obviously NNS Unity, NNS Centenary and the LST100 are not good ships. Thank you very much.
NNS Thunder is not a frigate, it's a cutter. Cutters are different from frigates plus I never said Nigeria doesn't have ships, I said Nigerian Navy no too get good ship and they actually no too get good ship


Read here

https://seahistory.org/sea-history-for-kids/cutters-and-frigates/#:~:text=Designed%20to%20be%20fast%20and,time%2C%20with%20changes%20in%20vessel
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by NamelessOGBENI(m): 8:18am On Aug 13, 2021
seanwilliam:
We are ready for the Russia grin
Ordinary Benin Republic we are not ready for...
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by omanzo02: 8:19am On Aug 13, 2021
labisibrass:

.who are these people called government.They are you and I . Until we chose to be responsible as individuals and stop blaming the government, nothing will change. Nobody is born today and named Government. We complain that the government is corrupt, they're thieves they extort etc but an average civil servant in his own domain is worse than the so called government, he steals at the slightest opportunity. The only difference is just that he doesn't have access to a bigger fund. Put him in a position of the government he's condemning, he'd be worse. Until we chose to be responsible as individuals, nothing will change!
You don't have a damn idea about the definition of government. It's obvious you don't even have a simple understanding of the post you quoted. grin

The definition of government is the exercise of control or authority over a group of people. ... The body with the power to make and/or enforce laws to control a country, land area, people or organization.

I come in peace!
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by labisibrass(m): 8:24am On Aug 13, 2021
phorget:



So to you now this one is a good news that we all need to masturbate over it. If this one is the definition of a good news then that means Nigeria has indeed finished.

Finished for who. You need to calm down and read to understand, not to answer alone
That I mentioned good news doesn't mean i was so particular about the post. Was just trying to express how most Nigerians react to news these days, small thing we'd look for ways to drag government into it!

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Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by Poloyanabo2(m): 8:26am On Aug 13, 2021
masterchi:
NNS Okpabana and NNS Thunder are not frigates. NNS Aradu is our only Frigate and it is not even in good shape. Nigérian Navy no too get good ships.
Them no even get Warship or destroyer, we have a long way to go,
Egypt has 2 carriers and countless submarines including south Africa,
Then you have a Nigeria that prides itself in less than 100m sized boats with meagre tonnages,
We need an enlightened president to overhaul this military.

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Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by pacespot(m): 8:34am On Aug 13, 2021
The difference between Nigerian military and USA is Nigerian military are used to kill Nigerians while the USA military are used to kill citizens of other countries. If you compare the operational experiences of Nigerian military with that of the USA, the gap will be so wide, I don't even think Nigerian military have ever killed non-nigerians, and America rarely deploys their military against Americans.
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by CSTRR: 8:37am On Aug 13, 2021
COdeGenesis:
Seee Nigeria small ship..... This country has gone to the dogs
Even the US did not bring their best.
They related with Nigeria on the same level.
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by Omoluabi1stborn: 9:04am On Aug 13, 2021
[quote author=GeneralPula post=104735209]

Wow..

But these sea pirates, do they usually hide under water? grin

They’re one of the maddest criminals ever liveth[/quote

naptu2, pls answer this.
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by shoboy9: 9:10am On Aug 13, 2021
naptu2:


Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Those are patrol boats! Is there any country that does not have patrol boats?? You can actually see the "P" written on its side!

Kai!

What rubbish is this? We used to have corvettes and frigates! Even an FAC is better. Why send a patrol boat alone? What is going on? Y ou have opportunity for an exercise like this, the frigates with their helicopters, radar equipment should benefit from it, what is the reason for putting a patrol boat....Sorry I forgot it is apc govt. Pls let us clap for the wonderful achievement.
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by realray(m): 9:12am On Aug 13, 2021
naija wan kill me with laffs see name: Nigerian Navy ships NNS Prosperity, NNS Nguru, NNS Ekulu, NNS Osun, NNS Ose,.....it is well
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by seyz91(m): 9:22am On Aug 13, 2021
grin na nigeria boat you supose call am
COdeGenesis:
Seee Nigeria small ship..... This country has gone to the dogs
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by naptu2: 9:28am On Aug 13, 2021
Poloyanabo2:

Those are patrol boats right?
But does Nigeria have any destroyer or state of the art Warships?
Only patrol boats and a Non-functional frigate called NNS Aradu,
Nigeria Navy has a long way to go to sufficiently qualify as a blue water Navy,
For now they are a brown water Navy and power projection capability is lacking.
Egyptian Navy has Submarines and Helicopter carriers, SA Navy has Submarines even as small as Equador, their Navy has a submarine.
Nigeria's military as a whole needs to grow up, it needs overhauling.

1) Military equipment are acquired to meet challenges, not to fulfil comic book fantasies. The money that is used to acquire military equipment is also competing with money for healthcare, education, etc. Therefore, you buy what you need, not what fulfils your fantasy. That was the mistake we made in the late 1970s and early 1980s when we bought a lot of equipment that we never used.

2) Secondly, we do have sophisticated ships that perform the task that we require, eg. NNS Centenary, NNS Unity ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_056_corvette), the new LST that has just been built in the UAE, etc.

3) NNS Aradu was commissioned in 1982 and it suffered from neglect during the Abacha years due to sanctions on Nigeria. We are already ordering a new frigate to replace her (https://www.africanmilitaryblog.com/2021/04/nigerian-navy-explores-frigate-acquisition). The Aradu was a sophisticated and advance warship when we commissioned it. It was the first ever MEKO 360 warship

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Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by naptu2: 9:35am On Aug 13, 2021
masterchi:
NNS Thunder is not a frigate, it's a cutter. Cutters are different from frigates plus I never said Nigeria doesn't have ships, I said Nigerian Navy no too get good ship and they actually no too get good ship


Read here



Wrong. Warships are classified by countries and each country has its means of classifying warships (for example, NNS Aradu is the first ever MEKO 360 warship that was built. Nigeria classifies it as a frigate. Its identical siblings that were built for the Argentinian Navy were classified as destroyers by the Argentinian Navy. In Nigeria a frigate is a ship that is larger than a corvette, but smaller than a destroyer.

In fact, the definition of a frigate has changed over the centuries and various countries have various means of classifying frigates.

Even the term cutter varies. I've known what a cutter is since the 1980s. The cutters that were used by Stephen Decatur are different from the cutters you see today.

I already know that the US Coast Guard classified it as a cutter. I know that right from the day it was commissioned. I also know that the Nigerian Navy classifies it as a Frigate.

Now, here's what I want you to do. Instead of telling me that the US Coast Guard classifies it as a cutter, tell me what a frigate is and why NNS Thunder does not qualify to be classified as a frigate.

I'm waiting.

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Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by generalwo(m): 9:57am On Aug 13, 2021
naptu2:


Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Those are patrol boats! Is there any country that does not have patrol boats?? You can actually see the "P" written on its side!

Kai!
.... No blame am.... Na where e know reach e talk reach
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by generalwo(m): 9:59am On Aug 13, 2021
naptu2:


https://www.c6f.navy.mil/Press-Room/News/Article/2728056/gulf-of-guinea-partners-complete-maritime-security-exercise/
... How I wish the evil government in Nigeria will do more to protect its citizens.... Imagine country where dem value cows over humans...... Anybody wen join vote this present government for 9ja...wallai, e no go better for am
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by Quaddafi29: 11:15am On Aug 13, 2021
So that small and dirty looking fishing boat with a small machine gun at the front is our naval warship? Jesus wept!!!!
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by okotv(m): 12:20pm On Aug 13, 2021
Jerryherd:


Yes I did. Escorting US Vessel after a successful training with the Nigerian SBS (special boat service)
Imagine spilling false news with confidence online. An exercise I partook in fully you want to tell me about.
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by Jerryherd: 12:41pm On Aug 13, 2021
okotv:
Imagine spilling false news with confidence online. An exercise I partook in fully you want to tell me about.

I commented on the boat usage in the salutation pics and not that a drill never took place

The very first set of Naval SBS are people I know even some of my guys could have been there but on peace keeping mission in Gambia

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Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by Buffalo2(m): 12:44pm On Aug 13, 2021
ecolime:

E be like ferry boat
grin
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by Owen247: 1:44pm On Aug 13, 2021
COdeGenesis:
Seee Nigeria small ship..... This country has gone to the dogs
I know say u wan downgrade 9ja. But na bad government cause am.
Now lemmy ask you, is the Ghanaian boat bigger than ours?
Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by Poloyanabo2(m): 3:29pm On Aug 13, 2021
naptu2:


1) Military equipment are acquired to meet challenges, not to fulfil comic book fantasies. The money that is used to acquire military equipment is also competing with money for healthcare, education, etc. Therefore, you buy what you need, not what fulfils your fantasy. That was the mistake we made in the late 1970s and early 1980s when we bought a lot of equipment that we never used.

2) Secondly, we do have sophisticated ships that perform the task that we require, eg. NNS Centenary, NNS Unity ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_056_corvette), the new LST that has just been built in the UAE, etc.

3) NNS Aradu was commissioned in 1982 and it suffered from neglect during the Abacha years due to sanctions on Nigeria. We are already ordering a new frigate to replace her (https://www.africanmilitaryblog.com/2021/04/nigerian-navy-explores-frigate-acquisition). The Aradu was a sophisticated and advance warship when we commissioned it. It was the first ever MEKO 360 warship
So Russia, China and the USA that are acquiring military equipments are doing so to fulfil comic desires right?
Cos Nigerias challenges are obviously bigger than they've got,

And I'm talking state of the art warships and you're talking corvettes?
Which modern navy still boasts about Corvettes?
No destroyers and no warships of up to 100m in length and no battle cruisers and you're talking corvettes?
Corvettes is a thing of pride to the supposedly giant of Africa?
Egypt has Carriers Btw,
And NNS Aradu is dead and on course to be decommissioned,
I get am before no be property.

Countries don't just acquire weapons to battle challenges only,
Countries also acquire weapons for power projection purposes too,
Even Taiwanese, Singaporean Navies are more sophisticated than the Nigerian Navy and its saddening.

Re: Nigerian And US Navies Complete Maritime Security Exercise by naptu2: 3:37pm On Aug 13, 2021
Poloyanabo2:

So Russia, China and the USA that are acquiring military equipments are doing so to fulfil comic desires right?[/b]

This is precisely what I was referring to. WHAT ARE THE COUNTRIES THAT ARE TRYING TO INVADE NIGERIA AND WHAT ARE THE COUNTRIES THAT ARE TRYING TO INVADE THE US, CHINA AND RUSSIA?? ARE THEY THE SAME? It is comic book fantasy to say that we should get an aircraft carrier just because the US has one and not because we need one. WHAT ARE THE BUDGETS OF THE US, RUSSIA AND CHINA AND WHAT IS NIGERIA'S BUDGET? CAN YOU COMPARE THEM??

Do you know how much it costs to acquire and maintain those things? Do you know how much it cost us to acquire Sepecat Jaguars in the early 1980s? Di we ever use them? Wouldn't it have been better if that money went into education and healthcare??




Cos Nigerias challenges are obviously bigger than they've got,

And I'm talking state of the art warships and you're talking corvettes?
Which modern navy still boasts about Corvettes?
No destroyers and no warships of up to 100m in length and no battle cruisers and you're talking corvettes?
Corvettes is a thing of pride to the supposedly giant of Africa?
Egypt has Carriers Btw,
And NNS Aradu is dead and on course to be decommissioned,
I get am before no be property.

Countries don't just acquire weapons to battle challenges only,
Countries also acquire weapons for power projection purposes too,
Even Taiwanese, Singaporean Navies are more sophisticated than the Nigerian Navy and its saddening.

Why do we need to project power? Who are we projecting power too? We haven't yet funded electricity, education, healthcare, yet this one is talking about projecting power, to where and for what??

This is precisely the comicbook fantasy that I was referring to. Buying things that you don't need with money you don't have just because you have seen it in a Hollywood movie or a comicbook. IT IS MADNESS!!!

What Nigeria needs are vessels to protect shipping in its territorial waters (corvettes and frigates), vessels to support Ecomog operations (like the LTs), and vessels for emergency rescue operations. We haven't even finished with that, but this guy is talking about aircraft carriers. Do you know the number of people it takes to man an aircraft carrier and how much it costs to run it??

Which other navy in West and Central Africa is as large as the Nigerian Navy that would force us into a pointless and senseless and downright stupid arms race??

Even the United Kingdom, as rich and powerful as it is, gave up its aircraft carrier during the Cameron years because it could see the economic realities that it was facing, but this one wants Nigeria to buy an aircraft carrier, because it will be financed with comic money. It reminds me of the guy that said that we should drop a nuclear bomb on Boko Haram.

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