No.1 isah was a Muslim; Jesus Christ was Jewish.
No.2 isah was considered to be a prophet; Jesus Christ was God.
No.3 Jesus did not follow Sharia law. Like in this instances.
Where he let a woman with a bad reputation for being a prostitute wash his feet with perfume and her hair. And in another scripture Jesus stopped a crowd from stoning a woman t
Who was caught in the act of adultry to death by saying ' if any of you is without blame let him throw the first stone.
In Islam women are rebuked when they reveal their hair to men that they are not married to. Under Islamic Sharia law, 'zina' which is sexual intercause between a man and a woman(prostitution) is purnished by 100 strokes of cane in public if both of them have never been married and by stoning the woman to death in the case we're she is married.

Now let's not even forget the repentant thief that Jesus promised paradise instead of the normal hand cutting that Sharia law suggests.

Very true,they can't be the same person

Isah was the same persona as Jesus


But the narrative in the Quran differs to the Bible

But u know what? We shouldn't care

Both books are meant to be studied for history


The world has moved on

illicit:
Isah was the same persona as Jesus


But the narrative in the Quran differs to the Bible

But u know what? We shouldn't care

Both books are meant to be studied for history


The world has moved on

isah is not the same person as Jesus Christ. It's not about narrative. The narrative of John, Mathew, and Luke differ.
Mohammed was talking completely about a different person as he was born 600 years later.

illicit:
Isah was the same persona as Jesus
But the narrative in the Quran differs to the Bible
But u know what? We shouldn't care
Both books are meant to be studied for history
The world has moved on

Studied for history you say, so what "historical" evidence is there that the character referred to as "Iesous" in the Greek manuscripts is the same character called "isah" in the Quran?

PROVERBZ:
isah is not the same person as Jesus Christ. It's not about narrative. The narrative of John, Mathew, and Luke differ.
Mohammed was talking completely about a different person as he was born 600 years later.

Why I mentioned the narrative was because this narrator u mentioned wrote things according to his own imagination

He claimed that the Jews especially Christians distorted Christ's biography

He even claimed that Jesus aka Isah spoke from infancy

Kobojunkie:
Studied for history you say, so what "historical" evidence is there that the character referred to as "Iesous" in the Greek manuscripts is the same character called "isah" in the Quran?

I am a Linguist


Jesus is also translated as Isah, Yisa, Joshua, Yeshua in very old languages

illicit:

I am a Linguist
Jesus is also translated as Isah, Yisa, Joshua in old languages

Translated by whom?

Kobojunkie:
Translated by whom?

The people that lived much later and now

The pronunciation of those names are actually lost

Anything you say.

Which of the story is actually consistent? Mathew's Jesus is different from marks Jesus is different from. Luke's Jesus and is different from John's Jesus....and different from Paul's Jesus.

This is to tell you that they are not writting an actual event. Just forging things as they move on.

I can't fault Muhammad for inventing his own Jesus..


Who is to blame?

illicit:
The people that lived much later and now.The pronunciation of those names are actually lost

You say you are a Linguist, right?

Scholars have been puzzled by the use of ʿĪsā in the Qur'an since Christians in Arabia used yasūʿ before and after Islam,[4][5] itself derived from the Syriac form Yēshūaʿ by a phonetic change.[6][7] The Encyclopedia of the Qur'an by Brill Publishers states this has also come about because many Western scholars have held a "conviction that Jesus' authentic Hebrew name is Yeshua'"[2] and because of this they often "have been puzzled by the Qur'an's reference to him as 'Isa".[2] Brill's Encyclopedia of the Qur'an further states "It is not certain that Jesus' original name was Yeshua'"[2] However, the early Syriac/Aramaic form of the name Yeshua, the etymological link with 'salvation' (note the Hebrew consonantal root y-sh-`) in Matthew 1:21, all of the correspondences of Ἰησοῦς in the Greek OT and Second Temple Jewish writings, and the common attestation of Yeshua among 1st century Jewish names have led to a consensus among scholars of the gospels that Yeshua was "Jesus"'s original name. "Esau" (and derivatives with `ayin as a first letter) is not a realistic possibility.

With all this in mind, some scholars have proposed a number of explanations. James A. Bellamy of the University of Michigan suggested that the quranic name is a corruption of Masīḥ itself derived from yasūʿ, suggesting that this resulted from a copyist error and an attempt to conceal the Arabic verb sāʿa/yasūʿu which has obscene connotations,[6] though no evidence has been found to support this claim.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isa_(name)

The name is suspect. Isa made indeed not refer to the same character that is Jesus Christ.

22jumpstreet:
Which of the story is actually consistent? Mathew's Jesus is different from marks Jesus is different from. Luke's Jesus and is different from John's Jesus....and different from Paul's Jesus.

This is to tell you that they are not writting an actual event. Just forging things as they move on.

I can't fault Muhammad for inventing his own Jesus..


Who is to blame?

3 of them told stories about how they knew him. People can be different with one person and be another certain way with the other. One thing they have in common tho is the events: Jesus was crucified and woke up on the third day.

While isah was not crucified instead somebody that looked like him was put in his place and crucified. We know this is not true because from the Bible, when Jesus was arrested, 3 people who knew Jesus, his disciples and what they all looked like were able to identify Peter and they asked 'are you not with him?' which Peter denied.

Kobojunkie:
You say you are a Linguist, right?

Yes I am a Linguist


Most of those names in the Bible , the original pronunciation is lost

The same name Jesus in the new testament is the same as Joshua in the old testament

There are other names that have different pronunciations and orthography in the Bible to the one presented in the Quran such as Eve - Awawu

Noah - Nuru

Moses - Musa

Joseph - Yusuf

Pharaoh - Firaona

John - Yahaya

Etc

PROVERBZ:
3 of them told stories about how they knew him. People can be different with one person and be another certain way with the other. One thing they have in common tho is the events: Jesus was crucified and woke up on the third day.

While isah was not crucified instead somebody that looked like him was put in his place and crucified. We know this is not true because from the Bible, when Jesus was arrested, 3 people who knew Jesus, his disciples and what they all looked like were able to identify Peter and they asked 'are you not with him?' which Peter denied.

Does it not surprise you that two people who played part in the so called death disappeared from the scene.. I mean Nicodemus and Joseph of arimathea. Maybe they nursed him back to life. According to John, They brought Aloe and myrrh which are herbs for healing...

So they nused him to life and smuggled him out of the Roman province...

I am just taking you through some things that might be worthy to have a second look.

I know for a fact the story is a fabrication from beginning to end.

illicit:

Yes I am a Linguist
Most of those names in the Bible , the original pronunciation is lost
The same name Jesus in the new testament is the same as Joshua in the old testament
There are other names that have different pronunciations and orthography in the Bible to the one presented in the Quran such as Eve - Awawu
Noah - Nuru
Moses - Musa
Joseph - Yusuf
Pharaoh - Firaona
John - Yahaya
Etc

isn't it a mistake to assume the Quran an authority of some sort where the Arabic forms of these names are concerned ?

* The name Joshua is not mentioned at all in the Quran and it's Arabic form is known - جوشوا - pronounced 'jwshwa' .

* The name Jesus in Arabic form is - يسوع - and it is pronounced 'yasue'

Recall, this is about establishing whether the character named 'Isa' in the Quran is the same character known as ' Jesus' in the Bible, and this from historical evidence. The Quran is written in Arabic language and we see no meaningful connection exists between the two names, not even when you consider the Arabic translation of the Hebrew form of the name.

However, there is a claim that it instead an Arabic translation of the romanized form of the name

Isa (Arabic: عِيسَى‎, romanized: ʿīsá) is a classical Arabic name and a translation of Jesus. The name Isa is the name for Jesus in the Quran. However, it is not the only translation; it is most commonly associated with Jesus as depicted in Islam, and thus, commonly used by Muslims.

Leaving us with even more questions, since 'Isa' seems to be a quran-specific translation of the name.

22jumpstreet:
Which of the story is actually consistent? Mathew's Jesus is different from marks Jesus is different from. Luke's Jesus and is different from John's Jesus....and different from Paul's Jesus.

This is to tell you that they are not writting an actual event. Just forging things as they move on.

I can't fault Muhammad for inventing his own Jesus..


Who is to blame?

How are they different did you ever read the Bible at all, the Jesus in Matthew, Mark, luke,and John's account is the same Just from different perspectives, just as if you asked different people to narrate the same event, each person narrating it in his or her own perspective.

speedeinstein:


How are they different did you ever read the Bible at all, the Jesus in Matthew, Mark, luke,and John's account is the same Just from different perspectives, just as if you asked different people to narrate the same event, each person narrating it in his or her own perspective.

Really..you want us to put your point to the test?

speedeinstein:


How are they different did you ever read the Bible at all, the Jesus in Matthew, Mark, luke,and John's account is the same Just from different perspectives, just as if you asked different people to narrate the same event, each person narrating it in his or her own perspective.

Seven gbosa for you
Gbosa! Gbosa!! Gbosa!!! Gbosa!!!! Gbosa!!!!! Gbosa!!!!!! Gbosaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!
Your brain no go disappear live you

illicit:


Yes I am a Linguist


Most of those names in the Bible , the original pronunciation is lost

The same name Jesus in the new testament is the same as Joshua in the old testament

There are other names that have different pronunciations and orthography in the Bible to the one presented in the Quran such as

Eve - Awawu

Noah - Nuru

Moses - Musa

Joseph - Yusuf

Pharaoh - Firaona

John - Yahaya

Etc

Where is Awawu presented in the Quran? Stop all this your lies, it won't take you anywhere

illicit:
Isah was the same persona as Jesus

Heavy gbosa for you
Ggggbosaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!

Adamgeneral12:

Seven gbosa for you
Gbosa! Gbosa!! Gbosa!!! Gbosa!!!! Gbosa!!!!! Gbosa!!!!!! Gbosaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!
Your brain no go disappear live you

Lol..let me ask you. This has to be simple for you.

1. How many women went to the tomb on the first day of the week?

2. What did they see?

22jumpstreet:


Lol..let me ask you. This has to be simple for you.

1. How many women went to the tomb on the first day of the week?

2. What did they see?

No gbosa for you

Adamgeneral12:

No gbosa for you

Lol, you know the four go - spel reported different things..I will let you check it out yourself.

isah is Islam. Isah is Quran. Isah was born of MARIAM, MOTHER of Jesus Christ.
No.2 isah was considered to be a prophet born of The Holy Spirit. It's the same The word of God, The Message born of God and sent by God. The Holy Spirit bear witness to us that JESUS IS GOD.
No.3 Sharia law is The way of The Quran. GOD'S LIFE AND LOVE IS THE WAY OF THE RIGHTEOUS.
"SINA" IN ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY MEANS "MISS ROAD" LIKE IN CORRUPTION AND PROSTITUTION.
JESUS HIMSELF WAS NAILED TO THE CROSS LIKE A COMMON CRIMINAL. SHARIA DOESN'T PICK THAT.
IN OTHER WORDS, QURAN IS A PARAPHRASE OF SOME ESSENTIAL MESSAGES TO THE RIGHTEOUS.
MAY GOD BLESS YOU WITH UNDERSTANDING.

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PROVERBZ:
No.1 isah was a Muslim; Jesus Christ was Jewish.
No.2 isah was considered to be a prophet; Jesus Christ was God.
No.3 Jesus did not follow Sharia law. Like in this instances.
Where he let a woman with a bad reputation for being a prostitute wash his feet with perfume and her hair. And in another scripture Jesus stopped a crowd from stoning a woman t
Who was caught in the act of adultry to death by saying ' if any of you is without blame let him throw the first stone.
In Islam women are rebuked when they reveal their hair to men that they are not married to. Under Islamic Sharia law, 'zina' which is sexual intercause between a man and a woman(prostitution) is purnished by 100 strokes of cane in public if both of them have never been married and by stoning the woman to death in the case we're she is married.

Now let's not even forget the repentant thief that Jesus promised paradise instead of the normal hand cutting that Sharia law suggests.

Is Jesus not God Almighty who gave the laws in the Torah in the first place..


Yeshua (Isa) is not Jesus, Jesus is a Greek god even the early christians the Nazarenes rejected Yeshua has God but as a messenger of God. It was Apostle Paul a repented persecutor of nazarenes that went to a non-isrealite location to convert people to the religion of the Roman God (Je- Zeus). Hence why Christians celebrate Christmas, Easter, take their holy day as Sunday instead of Sabbath.. e.t.c and other pagan, Ronan festivals


Jesus Christ does not exist but Yeshua Hamachiak [Prophet Isa] even Peter confirmed that Jesus was the prophet like Moses.

Acts 3

22 Thus Moses said to the forefathers, The Lord God will raise up for you a Prophet from among your brethren as [He raised up] me; Him you shall listen to and understand by hearing and heed in all things whatever He tells you.

23And it shall be that every soul that does not listen to and understand by hearing and heed that Prophet shall be utterly [e]exterminated from among the people.(

RightChannel:


Where is Awawu presented in the Quran? Stop all this your lies, it won't take you anywhere

Nana Awawu

Ask ur mallam, kid

illicit:
Nana Awawu
Ask ur mallam, kid

Arabic form of the name 'Eve's is pronounced 'hawaa', not 'awawu'.

You said you are a Linguist and here you keep making a mistake even a non-Linguist shouldn't make in this. Why would you ask an Hausa mallam when the language of concern is Arabic, and so your reference should be the Arabic language and not the Quran.

The Arabic language itself does not draw from the Quran and so should never be treated as though it does.

Kobojunkie:
Arabic form of the name 'Eve's is pronounced 'hawaa', not 'awawu'.

You said you are a Linguist and here you keep making a mistake even a non-Linguist shouldn't make in this. Why would you ask an Hausa mallam when the language of concern is Arabic, and so your reference should be the Arabic language and not the Quran.

The Arabic language itself does not draw from the Quran and so should never be treated as though it does.

Whats the difference between Hawaa and Awawu

The difference is in who is the speaker, I am Yoruba, there's nobody called Hawaa here, we call it Awawu

That should answer your Jesus/Isa question

It's the same name, different pronunciations

Mallam and Mallim is same thing too

Be realistic don't just be bookish....

The Quran was written in Arabic, no?

To be a Muslim, you spend some certain years at Arabic school? No?
Learning what?

As a Linguist , since I haven't been to any Arabic nation, my sources and reference to anything Arabic language are the teachers here

illicit:

Whwtsvt the difference between Hawaa and Awawu
The difference is in who is the speaker, I am Yoruba, there's nobody called Hawaa here, we call it Awawu
That should answer your Jesus/Isa question
It's the same name, different pronunciations
Mallam and Mallim is same thing too
Be realistic don't just be bookish....

What has yoruba to do with this?

And no, what you just said does not even remotely address the Jesus/Isa question in any way or form.

Kobojunkie:
What has yoruba to do with this?

And no, what you just said does not even remotely address the Jesus/Isa question in any way or form.

It has to do with it

U seem to wonder about my being a Linguist, so I am given u references

A doctor will do that, a pharmacist will, a lawyer will....

Hawaa Arabic

Awawu Yoruba

That's your answer

Many names have different variations or pronunciations either as a result of time or location differences

Isaac - Jew
Isiaka - Arab

Abraham - Jew

Ibrahim - Arab

Mary, Maria (Yoruba) Moriamo (Yoruba)

Mariam, Moriam (Arab)