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The Abner Lesson by daveP(m): 11:51pm On Sep 18, 2021
2. Samuel 2 to Chapter 4

Its A story we all might be very familiar with, but this lesson is one we as Believers must learn.

This Time in Israel is a time where the Death of Saul left the Kingdom without a King on the Throne. Two Fellows, David Son of Jesse, and Ish-boseth, son of Saul.

Kind David have been reigning as King in Judah already and he did for 7 and a half years, while The rest of Israel were without a leader.

Saul's C-in-C, Abner, took Ish-boseth, and after 5years of lobbying, made him king over all the other tribes of Israel. He only reigned 2 years.

Abner knew God's Plan and Choice of David as Leader, but stood in the way of this materializing for selfish reasons.

Abner knew about the Beginning of David's ascendancy to power and all of how his Boss made 21 attempts to kill David. Both Saul and Abner were fully aware of what threat David was to their Kingdom as a result of the Prophecy about his takeover. So Abner was not a novice at all on this matter. But he still went ahead to defy the odd. Thus Ish-boseth!!

In a show of strength and pride, a Bloody Contest occurred(2. Sam. 2:13-32). Abner lost. But he still went ahead by making Gibeon the capital of Israel.

Gibeon was close to Hebron, so this was a coyish act of trying to make an advancement on David's Kingdom, ambush it and win all Israel to be Ish-boseth's. A seasoned, wise Warrior Chief would think like Abner.

All these actions, knowing what God has already said about David.


It didn't end well. Abner died, and like a fool. He, an experienced warrior and Commander, was killed like a dog, unawares.


What Changed?

Before his death, Abner took his dead cousin's concubine, Rizpah to himself and King Ish-boseth questioned this decision. In anger at the audacity, Abner decided to suddenly transfer the entire power of the tribes over to David who was reigning in Hebron all the while.


A Woman caused this fulfillment of Prophecy!!
It was also women that triggered the Assassination Attempts on David by Saul all 21 times. When they praised David more than King Saul after Killing Goliath.

Abner now fully decided to hand over all to King David, who had no such intentions, except waiting for God's Time.

How will a Man be fully aware that God has chosen David, through the word of Prophet Samuel, and still be defiant and an hindrance?

How will a man, fully aware that he's been fighting God all the while with his actions will not be convinced that he should act in God's will, only after something personal as a concubine happened before he succumbed?

Also Note that the assurance of the Combining all Israel under one King also included a woman, Michal, as Assurance. Abner did his part, but Joab had other plans. 2. Samuel 3:13-15



Lesson:


Are you aware of what God has said concerning someone but standing in the way due to selfish reasons?


Do you only let go when it becomes your personal issues going very bad?


Why fight who God is defending?

Why flex your power fully aware Someone beneath you has God?


This might not apply to the wicked that don't fear God, but to fellow believers in places of power, working hard to frustrate the advancement of another believer due to selfish reasons.


If you are in such a position, know that God's Choice always wins at the end, and it will not end well for whoever stands in the way. Don't be a hindrance. Be a Stepping stone. Be it in the Church, at work, at home or school, etc. Wherever you find yourself.


Perhaps you're one of those expecting such a person to go hard after what they want because you are one of those that believe "the violent taketh it by force" before you're fully convinced.

Repent and Allow God's Will to benefit his people, and all at large.

Happy Sunday and God bless you as you become less an Abner.


If you are also impatient, Be a David. Trust God for the fufillment of His Word, patiently waiting on Him. Don't be desperate!

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Re: The Abner Lesson by RoyalBoutique(m): 8:36am On Sep 19, 2021
Hehehe

Bible story book.

Aren't you guys tired of reading about the impotent dead white man called Jesus.

Or about the paedoplile i called prophet Muhammad?

They couldn't save themselves, so how do you expect them to save you?

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Re: The Abner Lesson by DoctorDree(m): 8:37am On Sep 19, 2021
Happy sabbath day

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Re: The Abner Lesson by dareyking(m): 8:38am On Sep 19, 2021
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Re: The Abner Lesson by Victorfresh008: 8:39am On Sep 19, 2021
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Re: The Abner Lesson by yemionline(m): 8:39am On Sep 19, 2021
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Re: The Abner Lesson by omoadeleye(m): 8:39am On Sep 19, 2021
RoyalBoutique:
Hehehe

Bible story book.

Aren't you guys tired of reading about the impotent dead white man called Jesus.

Or about the paedoplile i called prophet Muhammad?

They couldn't save themselves, so how do you expect them to save you?


See what you have developed in your life, you are always restless anytime religion session is going on.

You have created problems in your life, all the things you do in your life is to moan and lament.

Majority of us don't even go to church or mosque, but, that doesn't mean we should be attacking those who are going.

Do your thing and let others do their thing.


But, most of you people that do attack everything other believe in this world are the nuisance which covid Delta variant needs to wipe out from the surface of earth.

Since, non of y'all can't stop being a nuisance and mind your businessess.

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Re: The Abner Lesson by Unclesamo(m): 8:39am On Sep 19, 2021
Insightful

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Re: The Abner Lesson by OtemAtum: 8:40am On Sep 19, 2021
Ok
Re: The Abner Lesson by Matskinny: 8:40am On Sep 19, 2021
Happy Sunday!
Re: The Abner Lesson by geoworldedu: 8:40am On Sep 19, 2021
If you don't obey this commandment of God, you are not godly.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21
King James Version
18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Re: The Abner Lesson by updatechange(m): 8:41am On Sep 19, 2021
Israel
Re: The Abner Lesson by gasparpisciotta: 8:43am On Sep 19, 2021
I love the Bible, the stories therein will forever remain relevant and stories like this are a reminder of our mortality.

Do your best and leave the rest to God

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Re: The Abner Lesson by Omoluabi16(m): 8:56am On Sep 19, 2021
Growing up, my favorite bible books were Samuel and kings. My book of bible stories also amplified my love for these books with their very colourful and imaginative pictures. Abner was just being loyal to his boss by installing his son. He probably saw the writing on the wall and FFK'd ishbosheth. But Joab had other plans.. and let's not forget Abner killed joab's brother Asahel in battle.

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Re: The Abner Lesson by RoyalBoutique(m): 8:58am On Sep 19, 2021
omoadeleye:



See what you have developed in your life, you are always restless anytime religion session is going on.

You have created problems in your life, all the things you do in your life is to moan and lament.

Majority of us don't even go to church or mosque, but, that doesn't mean we should be attacking those who are going.

Do your thing and let others do their thing.


But, most of you people that do attack everything other believe in this world are the nuisance which covid Delta variant needs to wipe out from the surface of earth.

Since, non of y'all can't stop being a nuisance and mind your businessess.

How is my problem your problem?

I hate religion.

If you have a problem with it, that's your problem not mine.

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Re: The Abner Lesson by Mikael0407(m): 9:00am On Sep 19, 2021
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Re: The Abner Lesson by diplomat058(m): 9:08am On Sep 19, 2021
I don't like the way this story was twisted and retested to suit target narratives.

One, Abner did what he had to do. He was a general, not a politician who makes political decisions. So his job was to ensure Kingdom stability through a royal succession of the House of Saul. If the Israelite tribes would join David, that wasn't Abner's decision to make.

Two, why mock his death? His death was acknowledged by even David as a misfortune. And the Man responsible did not escape Solomon's sword. If it was God's plan that he should die in an unjust way, I guess there wouldn't be negative repercussions for whoever carried out His will.

Three, the only time Abner acted as a politician was when he wanted to handover the Kingdom to David. That was meddlesome on his part. He sort of wanted Ish to be a puppet King to him

And stories of the bible aren't meant to be judged because we may not be privy to the 'full facts.' let's just learn the lessons and exemplify them to improve our christian lives.

May the peace of our Lord Jesus be with everyone now and forever. Amen

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Re: The Abner Lesson by Nobody: 9:10am On Sep 19, 2021
RoyalBoutique:


How is my problem your problem?

I hate religion.

If you have a problem with it, that's your problem not mine.

You hate yourself not religion. If you hate religion you simply avoid their topics . You don't rush there like a prostitute every time insulting those who practice it. It makes it look like you don't have a brain at all. Even if there is a little sense remaining in you try to put it to work. If the sense is finished, just throw off your phone it will keep in you good health. Goats tend to live longer when they don't mingle with lions

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Re: The Abner Lesson by Truefaith: 9:30am On Sep 19, 2021
Checking up what, indeed, the Christian Bible teaches about Christ pays better dividends.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLLq2k8NI0
Re: The Abner Lesson by excel101(m): 9:40am On Sep 19, 2021
RoyalBoutique:
Hehehe

Bible story book.

Aren't you guys tired of reading about the impotent dead white man called Jesus.

Or about the paedoplile i called prophet Muhammad?

They couldn't save themselves, so how do you expect them to save you?
Lord have mercy.

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Re: The Abner Lesson by RoyalBoutique(m): 9:47am On Sep 19, 2021
prekumohtim:


You hate yourself not religion. If you hate religion you simply avoid their topics it. You don't rush there like a prostitute every time insulting those who practice. It makes it look like you don't have a brain at all. Even if there is a little sense remaining in you try to put it to work. If the sense is finished, just throw off your phone it will keep in you good health. Goats tend to live longer when they don't mingle with lions

As a goat, stay away from Lions.

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Re: The Abner Lesson by Bacteriologist(m): 10:29am On Sep 19, 2021
omoadeleye:



See what you have developed in your life, you are always restless anytime religion session is going on.

You have created problems in your life, all the things you do in your life is to moan and lament.

Majority of us don't even go to church or mosque, but, that doesn't mean we should be attacking those who are going.

Do your thing and let others do their thing.


But, most of you people that do attack everything other believe in this world are the nuisance which covid Delta variant needs to wipe out from the surface of earth.

Since, non of y'all can't stop being a nuisance and mind your businessess.




Why is it not a problem when religious people preach their religious doctrines in public places like in markets, streets, public transport and pretty much everywhere else, threatening others who may not practices those doctrines with hell and all other sorts of scary ridiculous things in their holy book...

But apparently it's something that signals a problem that deserves death by a nasty disease when the minority try to respond in kind by commenting in online threads ??





That asides, are you advocating for a gag on freedom of speech? As far as I'm concerned in the religion section, atheists never wish death on Christians when they comment on atheists posts. Why? Because speaking is a victimless crime(if we can even call it a crime?). No one is physically getting harmed because of a post on a NL thread.

So why would it be something that deserved death from COVID because an atheist (or even someone else that's just critiquing) comments on a Christian thread? I thought Christianity was a "religion of love."

Or are you guys just being hypocrites like your Muslim brothers when they say "islam is the religion of peace...." hmmm


Lastly, given the fact that religion, including Christianity, is responsible for the loss of lives, abuse of children and all other sorts of humanitarian crimes.

It is right and, in fact, an obligation to criticise this folly, called religion, that has been fostered upon us by middle aged writers who mistakenly thought they were communicating with Gods.

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Re: The Abner Lesson by BluntCrazeMan: 12:03pm On Sep 19, 2021
Okay
Re: The Abner Lesson by kinguwem: 12:03pm On Sep 19, 2021
diplomat058:
I don't like the way this story was twisted and retested to suit target narratives.

One, Abner did what he had to do. He was a general, not a politician who makes political decisions. So his job was to ensure Kingdom stability through a royal succession of the House of Saul. If the Israelite tribes would join David, that wasn't Abner's decision to make.

Two, why mock his death? His death was acknowledged by even David as a misfortune. And the Man responsible did not escape Solomon's sword. If it was God's plan that he should die in an unjust way, I guess there wouldn't be negative repercussions for whoever carried out His will.

Three, the only time Abner acted as a politician was when he wanted to handover the Kingdom to David. That was meddlesome on his part. He sort of wanted Ish to be a puppet King to him

And stories of the bible aren't meant to be judged because we may not be privy to the 'full facts.' let's just learn the lessons and exemplify them to improve our christian lives.

May the peace of our Lord Jesus be with everyone now and forever. Amen
Amen! We'll summarized.

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Re: The Abner Lesson by AmbassadoR100(m): 3:00pm On Sep 19, 2021
Brother, please mind what you say about our Lord Jesus to avoid bringing damnation upon yourself. Happy Sunday!
RoyalBoutique:
Hehehe

Bible story book.

Aren't you guys tired of reading about the impotent dead white man called Jesus.

Or about the paedoplile i called prophet Muhammad?

They couldn't save themselves, so how do you expect them to save you?
Re: The Abner Lesson by RoyalBoutique(m): 3:46pm On Sep 19, 2021
AmbassadoR100:
Brother, please mind what you say about our Lord Jesus to avoid bringing damnation upon yourself. Happy Sunday!

Your lord Jesus is a dead white man that couldn't save himself.

And you're a black man that prays to an impotent white man to save you.

SMH
Re: The Abner Lesson by AmbassadoR100(m): 2:34pm On Sep 20, 2021
May God have Mercy on you bro!
RoyalBoutique:


Your lord Jesus is a dead white man that couldn't save himself.

And you're a black man that prays to an impotent white man to save you.

SMH
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Re: The Abner Lesson by professore(m): 6:25pm On Sep 26, 2021
Very nice write-up

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