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Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by Skoonheid(f): 5:45am On Sep 29, 2021
Muslims like to point to Jesus' prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane to make the claim that they pray just like He did. But in the pictures below, you can see what a difference there is between rabbinic prostration, Jesus' prayer in the Garden, and Muslim prayer in the mosque.
The position Jesus took while praying in Gethsemane is a prayer position called prostration. Muslims, please look it up in the dictionary: prostration.

  The whole body is flat on the ground during prostration. The posterior is not elevated. This position is usually assumed only during the most intense prayer, as Jesus was doing at Gethsemane, such as during intercession. In short, the prostration position that Jesus took and the way Muslims pray are not at all the same.
Note as well that prostration "was the usual posture of prayer in times of great earnestness"

  If Muslims did, in fact, use prostration to pray 5 times a day, it would no longer be "in great earnestness." It would become a routine prayer posture which would mean absolutely nothing to God

  As Jesus said in Matt 6,

  5 “Whenever you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites, because they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by people. I assure you: They’ve got their reward! 

 6 But when you pray, go into your private room, shut your door, and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. 

 7 When you pray, don’t babble like the idolaters, since they imagine they’ll be heard for their many words. 

 8 Don’t be like them, because your Father knows the things you need before you ask Him."

  The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is not fooled by "many prayers." He looks at what is deep inside our hearts and is fully aware of our deepest and darkest secrets. He's not deceived by who you or I may pretend to be on the outside 

  Btw, anyone who has prayed in intercession "in great earnestness" knows that it cannot be done 5 times a day, nor even 3 times a day. No human being could ever survive that

  So, try as they might to force Islam once again into the Bible, once again, they have failed.

  But where did Muslims learn to pray the way they do? Apparently, they have copied their prayer rituals from Orthodox Jewry

I would love for all Muslims all over the world to slam their deluded foreheads against the ground repeatedly with EARNESTNESS, maybe , just maybe.... .

Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by MightySparrow: 6:24am On Sep 29, 2021
Islam has nothing in common with Christianity. All of Islamic commandments are from Mohammad
There are no similarities between Judaism and Islam not to talk of Christianity. The way the Solomon's temple was constructed and kaaba are not the same.
The mode of prayer in both not the same either.
None of Israelite's prophets prayed the Islamic way. The likes of antichristian can argue other way, but, priests alone went into the temple and needed ablution. Prophets needed nothing to do in the temple and they were not going there. In fact, many of the prophets were women who were not allowed to enter inside the temple.
So Jesus never prayed that Mohammedan's way.

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Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by haekymbahd(m): 7:47am On Sep 29, 2021
Skoonheid:
Muslims like to point to Jesus' prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane to make the claim that they pray just like He did. But in the pictures below, you can see what a difference there is between rabbinic prostration, Jesus' prayer in the Garden, and Muslim prayer in the mosque.
The position Jesus took while praying in Gethsemane is a prayer position called prostration. Muslims, please look it up in the dictionary: prostration.

  The whole body is flat on the ground during prostration. The posterior is not elevated. This position is usually assumed only during the most intense prayer, as Jesus was doing at Gethsemane, such as during intercession. In short, the prostration position that Jesus took and the way Muslims pray are not at all the same.
Note as well that prostration "was the usual posture of prayer in times of great earnestness"

  If Muslims did, in fact, use prostration to pray 5 times a day, it would no longer be "in great earnestness." It would become a routine prayer posture which would mean absolutely nothing to God

 
I would love for all Muslims all over the world to slam their deluded foreheads against the ground repeatedly with EARNESTNESS, maybe , just maybe.... .
In the cannonical Gospel book you can see 4 different authors narrating the same event so the best you can do for yourself is read all and connect the dots...

Luke 22
41 And He withdrew from them about a stone's throw and knelt down and prayed,


Mathew 26
39 And going a little farther, He threw Himself upon the ground on His face and prayed saying, My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass away from Me; nevertheless, not what I will [not what I desire], but as You will and desire.

Mark 14
35 And going a little farther, He fell on the ground and kept praying that if it were possible the [[e]fatal] hour might pass from Him.


This also happened somewhere

"…and he cast himself down upon the earth, and put his face between his knees." (1 Kings 18:42)


Skoonheid:

As Jesus said in Matt 6,

  5 “Whenever you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites, because they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by people. I assure you: They’ve got their reward! 

 6 But when you pray, go into your private room, shut your door, and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. 
Before Jesus they've have been praying like that right from the time of solomon and your God never condemn it. Jesus was talking about hypocrite who are praying to be seen not Muslims who have submitted to God.


Muslims are not hypocrite praying to be seen we pray to God sincerely with our hearts and mind. we can pray anywhere and also at home.

May I ask what is the essence of going to church when you can pray at home it shows you are the hypocrite are you praying to be seen then you are not heeding to Jesus advice.

Skoonheid:

I would love for all Muslims all over the world to slam their deluded foreheads against the ground repeatedly with EARNESTNESS, maybe , just maybe.... .
Did Jesus teach you to clap and dance where did you learn it from. Jesus taught us to bow and pray.

Jesus prayed and bow to God who created him while you pray to Jesus.

Colossian 1
15 [Now] He is the [o]exact likeness of the unseen God [the visible representation of the invisible]; He is the Firstborn of all creation.

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Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:53am On Sep 29, 2021
The pictures only create the impression that the people in the pictures are bowing or begging someone GREATER than them.
So Muslims believe Jesus worshiped someone greater than him {John 14:28} that's what they are saying about Churchgoers saying they're worshiping Jesus.
But as for Jesus' prayers it has nothing to do with body gesture rather it's the intentions of the one praying that matters most.

Jesus prayed for God's Kingdom to come so that's the will of God will be done on earth {Matthew 6:10} but most religionists anticipate going to heaven.

Jesus taught his followers to pursue, pray and work towards peace on earth {Matthew 5:43-48} but most religionists are vengeful and arrogant.

Jesus taught his followers not to interfere in the world politics {John 15:19; 17:14; 18:36} but majority of those claiming believers always meddle in Politics.

Jesus reminded the Israelites that God commanded them to love their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} and to his own disciples he gave a New Commandment saying they must love one another just as he loved them meaning they should be ready to die for their fellow believers if the need be {John 13:34-35} but most religionists will even kill their own fellow believers in the face of politics and racism!

So i don't think the body gesture means much because there are many examples of prayers that God granted in the Bible that body gesture wasn't considered.

God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by haekymbahd(m): 8:06am On Sep 29, 2021
MightySparrow:
Islam has nothing in common with Christianity. All of Islamic commandments are from Mohammad
There are no similarities between Judaism and Islam not to talk of Christianity. The way the Solomon's temple was constructed and kaaba are not the same.
The mode of prayer in both not the same either.
None of Israelite's prophets prayed the Islamic way. The likes of antichristian can argue other way, but, priests alone went into the temple and needed ablution. Prophets needed nothing to do in the temple and they were not going there. In fact, many of the prophets were women who were not allowed to enter inside the temple.
So Jesus never prayed that Mohammedan's way.
so what is the similarity between Christianity and Judaism. Do they even worship triune God not to even talk of their basic practices

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Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by MightySparrow: 10:55am On Sep 29, 2021
haekymbahd:
so what is the similarity between Christianity and Judaism. Do they even worship triune God not to even talk of their basic practices

Old covenant given birth to new.
Christ Prophecised and Christ manifestated

Islam, Mohammad, never mentioned.
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:10am On Sep 29, 2021
haekymbahd:
so what is the similarity between Christianity and Judaism. Do they even worship triune God not to even talk of their basic practices

Judaists don't believe in the existence of Jesus Christ and those who agreed said he is not a prophet of God. So from the look of things Judaists have gone off course!

As for Christianity the truth is that only one group practice what Jesus taught today while the rest are simply carrying over the tradition men of ancient times passed to them! smiley
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 11:19am On Sep 29, 2021
Skoonheid:
Muslims like to point to Jesus' prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane to make the claim that they pray just like He did. But in the pictures below, you can see what a difference there is between rabbinic prostration, Jesus' prayer in the Garden, and Muslim prayer in the mosque.
The position Jesus took while praying in Gethsemane is a prayer position called prostration. Muslims, please look it up in the dictionary: prostration.
It doesn't matter that they claim go pray like Jesus Christ since Jesus Christ Himself said that those who belong to Him, those who love Him are those who do what He commands. Hence, it is not those who do as Jesus Christ did but instead those who do as Jesus Christ commanded that are of Him. undecided

Jesus Christ's commandment where prayer is concerned stipulates that we Pray in our closet, where no one sees us or knows what we are doing and we pray in silence so no one hears us praying. - Matthew 6 vs 6 - 9. He never suggested we must pray lying or kneeling down or sitting or standing.. that is for individuals to decide of their own. undecided

He compared those who pray in public and out loud to the Pharisees. undecided
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by AntiChristian: 11:34am On Sep 29, 2021
MightySparrow:


Old covenant given birth to new.
Christ Prophecised and Christ manifestated

Islam, Mohammad, never mentioned.

God get old covenant and new covenant grin
We have told you the Bible has been doctored but you won't hear!

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Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by haekymbahd(m): 11:39am On Sep 29, 2021
MightySparrow:


Old covenant given birth to new.
Christ Prophecised and Christ manifestated

Islam, Mohammad, never mentioned.
show proof where Christ prophecised before manifesting?

What is the new convenant/commandment and are you following it is your God one?

Mathew 5

17 Do not think that I have come to do away with or [ab]undo the Law or the Prophets; I have come not to do away with or undo but to complete and fulfill them.

18 For truly I tell you, until the sky and earth pass away and perish, not one smallest letter nor one little hook [identifying certain Hebrew letters] will pass from the Law until all things [it foreshadows] are accomplished.

19 Whoever then breaks or does away with or relaxes one of the least [important] of these commandments and teaches men so shall be called least [important] in the kingdom of heaven, but he who practices them and teaches others to do so shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness (your uprightness and your right standing with God) is more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.



Is your righteousness more than that of the sect of the pharasee (a sect of Jew) they beleive in one God and not triune God since Jesus has set them as the standard for you to follow? I know the Jews are waiting for a messiah to come and not God.

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Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by haekymbahd(m): 12:15pm On Sep 29, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Judaists don't believe in the existence of Jesus Christ and those who agreed said he is not a prophet of God. So from the look of things Judaists have gone off course!

As for Christianity the truth is that only one group practice what Jesus taught today while the rest are simply carrying over the tradition men of ancient times passed to them! smiley
Yeah they didn't beleive him because he didn't carry the attributes of the messiah they were expecting nor did he fulfill the messianic project. They beleive messiah will only come once so they don't believe in the second comming so they thought he was blaspheming.

Not that they were expecting God the creator to come down to eat, drink, tempted by Satan, pray to a superior God and die by the hands of is own creation...

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Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by AntiChristian: 12:27pm On Sep 29, 2021
MightySparrow:
Islam has nothing in common with Christianity. All of Islamic commandments are from Mohammad
There are no similarities between Judaism and Islam not to talk of Christianity. The way the Solomon's temple was constructed and kaaba are not the same.
The mode of prayer in both not the same either.
None of Israelite's prophets prayed the Islamic way. The likes of antichristian can argue other way, but, priests alone went into the temple and needed ablution. Prophets needed nothing to do in the temple and they were not going there. In fact, many of the prophets were women who were not allowed to enter inside the temple.
So Jesus never prayed that Mohammedan's way.

Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform built for this occasion. At his right side stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and Maaseiah, and at his left were Pedaiah, Mishael, Malchijah, Hashum, Hash-baddanah, Zechariah, and Meshullam. Ezra opened the book in full view of all the people, since he was standing above them all, and as he opened it, all the people stood up. Then Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God, and with their hands uplifted, all the people said, “Amen, Amen!” Then they bowed down and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground.

You need to see the way Muslims pray and compare to the above in bold! Anyways make we just agree!
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:36pm On Sep 29, 2021
haekymbahd:
Yeah they didn't beleive him because he didn't carry the attributes of the messiah they were expecting nor did he fulfill the messianic project. They beleive messiah will only come once so they don't believe in the second comming so they thought he was blaspheming.

Not that they were expecting God the creator to come down to eat, drink, tempted by Satan, pray to a superior God and die by the hands of is own creation...

You're not far away from the truth! smiley
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by AntiChristian: 12:51pm On Sep 29, 2021
Skoonheid:
Muslims like to point to Jesus' prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane to make the claim that they pray just like He did. But in the pictures below, you can see what a difference there is between rabbinic prostration, Jesus' prayer in the Garden, and Muslim prayer in the mosque.
The position Jesus took while praying in Gethsemane is a prayer position called prostration. Muslims, please look it up in the dictionary: prostration.

  The whole body is flat on the ground during prostration. The posterior is not elevated. This position is usually assumed only during the most intense prayer, as Jesus was doing at Gethsemane, such as during intercession. In short, the prostration position that Jesus took and the way Muslims pray are not at all the same.
Note as well that prostration "was the usual posture of prayer in times of great earnestness"

  If Muslims did, in fact, use prostration to pray 5 times a day, it would no longer be "in great earnestness." It would become a routine prayer posture which would mean absolutely nothing to God

  As Jesus said in Matt 6,

  5 “Whenever you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites, because they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by people. I assure you: They’ve got their reward! 

 6 But when you pray, go into your private room, shut your door, and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. 

 7 When you pray, don’t babble like the idolaters, since they imagine they’ll be heard for their many words. 

 8 Don’t be like them, because your Father knows the things you need before you ask Him."

  The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is not fooled by "many prayers." He looks at what is deep inside our hearts and is fully aware of our deepest and darkest secrets. He's not deceived by who you or I may pretend to be on the outside 

  Btw, anyone who has prayed in intercession "in great earnestness" knows that it cannot be done 5 times a day, nor even 3 times a day. No human being could ever survive that

  So, try as they might to force Islam once again into the Bible, once again, they have failed.

  But where did Muslims learn to pray the way they do? Apparently, they have copied their prayer rituals from Orthodox Jewry

I would love for all Muslims all over the world to slam their deluded foreheads against the ground repeatedly with EARNESTNESS, maybe , just maybe.... .

Head slam is an offensive word used by non-Muslims (especially some Christians) to smear Muslims especially Muslims who pray by putting their faces to the ground.

We are head slammers for Allah. Prayer is the second pillar of Islam and prostration is one of the pillars of the Muslim Prayer.

Prostration has been one of the subtle way of worshiping God from the time of Abraham, Moses, Jesus till now. Those who abuse Muslims of head slamming have nothing to stand on as many notable people did same in the Bible.

1. Jesus: Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed Matthew 26:39

2. Abram: "And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying...," - Old Testament (Genesis 17:3)

3. Abraham:"Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?" - Old Testament (Genesis 17:17)

4. Moses: "And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshiped." - Old Testament (Exodus 34:

5. Moses & Aaron:“And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them.” - Old Testament (Numbers 20:6)

6. Moses & Aaron:"And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment. And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?" - Old Testament (Numbers 16:20-22)

7. Ezra and his People: And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with [their] faces to the ground. - Old Testament (Nehemiah 8:6)

8. Joshua: "And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?" - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Joshua 5:14)

9. A Prophet: "And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 9:

10 Jehoshaphat: "And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with his face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD." - Old Testament (2 Chronicles 20:18)

11. A Prophet:"And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 11:13)

Prostration is the best position to communicate with Allah and a true Muslim would prostrate over 34 times daily in Prayer!
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by MightySparrow: 1:42pm On Sep 29, 2021
AntiChristian:


Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform built for this occasion. At his right side stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and Maaseiah, and at his left were Pedaiah, Mishael, Malchijah, Hashum, Hash-baddanah, Zechariah, and Meshullam. Ezra opened the book in full view of all the people, since he was standing above them all, and as he opened it, all the people stood up. Then Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God, and with their hands uplifted, all the people said, “Amen, Amen!” Then they bowed down and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground.

You need to see the way Muslims pray and compare to the above in bold! Anyways make we just agree!


Lie of the Devil. Do Muslims use pupit or lectern? It is commanded by mohammed How to touch the ground, to lift up hands, ho many times with terminologies.

Prove from the Bible verse, that they prayed exactly the mohammed's way.

Your claim is false.
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by AntiChristian: 2:42pm On Sep 29, 2021
MightySparrow:



Lie of the Devil. Do Muslims use pupit or lectern? It is commanded by mohammed How to touch the ground, to lift up hands, ho many times with terminologies.

Prove from the Bible verse, that they prayed exactly the mohammed's way.

Your claim is false.

grin You are funny! This your argument is illogical.

Did Adam pray the same way as Moses? Did Moses pray the same way as Abraham? Did Abraham pray the same way as David? Solomon, Elijah, Joseph,..... Jesus and Muhammad. Do Christians pray the way Jesus even prayed today?

Each of them have their mode of Prayer which may be similar in fine details. The way we pray is typical to that given to Muhammad. But that does not mean others before him do not have their own way of Prayer to Allah.

They all practiced Islam as we have no evidence for Christianity and Judaism as a religion!

You should understand this logic since Adam, Moses, Abraham were not singing, clapping, dancing and speaking in tongue in the OT.
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by MightySparrow: 3:04pm On Sep 29, 2021
AntiChristian:


God get old covenant and new covenant grin
We have told you the Bible has been doctored but you won't hear!


You show ignorance. Anyways, I wrote that there were prophecies about Jesus which was fulfilled in Jesus (manifestation)


That is the link. I don't expect you to understand.Proof from the Qur'an the verses that tell you that the Bible is doctored. The Qur'an asked you to read the Bible . Were you commanded to read doctored scriptures?
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by MightySparrow: 7:22pm On Sep 29, 2021
AntiChristian:


grin You are funny! This your argument is illogical.

Did Adam pray the same way as Moses? Did Moses pray the same way as Abraham? Did Abraham pray the same way as David? Solomon, Elijah, Joseph,..... Jesus and Muhammad. Do Christians pray the way Jesus even prayed today?

Each of them have their mode of Prayer which may be similar in fine details. The way we pray is typical to that given to Muhammad. But that does not mean others before him do not have their own way of Prayer to Allah.

They all practiced Islam as we have no evidence for Christianity and Judaism as a religion!

You should understand this logic since Adam, Moses, Abraham were not singing, clapping, dancing and speaking in tongue in the OT.


This is why and where you self - appointed Islamic - Bible scholars miss it. You dabble into what you don't understand. Why not stay in your Islam and be fighting jihad?
Your brothers are in Sambisa forest doing the bidding of pure Islam.
You don't understand Christianity and cannot teach it.


Anyways Islam is a fraud.
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by AntiChristian: 6:43am On Sep 30, 2021
MightySparrow:



This is why and where you self - appointed Islamic - Bible scholars miss it. You dabble into what you don't understand. Why not stay in your Islam and be fighting jihad?
Your brothers are in Sambisa forest doing the bidding of pure Islam.
You don't understand Christianity and cannot teach it.


Anyways Islam is a fraud.


I'm amazed at your ignorance. Islam is mentioned by Allah in the Qu'ran unlike Judaism and Christianity that were coined by men.

In Islam we believe all prophets including Jesus son of Mary. But you don't believe in our Prophet at all.

In Islam, we believe all those who follow each Prophet in truth till they die are Muslims and will enter paradise.

All those who follow Jesus in truth till they die especially among those he was sent to before the coming of the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam will enter Paradise.

No doubt Islam is the only way of life as Allah says what means:

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.
Qur'an 3:85
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by AntiChristian: 6:50am On Sep 30, 2021
MightySparrow:



You show ignorance. Anyways, I wrote that there were prophecies about Jesus which was fulfilled in Jesus (manifestation)


That is the link. I don't expect you to understand.Proof from the Qur'an the verses that tell you that the Bible is doctored. The Qur'an asked you to read the Bible . Were you commanded to read doctored scriptures?


Error 404!

The Qu'ran never mentioned your Bible.
The Bible as you have it today does not exist in the time Qu'ran was written.

Torah and Injeel are revelations to Moses and Jesus respectfully. They are not Bible that was written by Paul and many others!
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by MightySparrow: 9:04am On Sep 30, 2021
AntiChristian:


Error 404!

The Qu'ran never mentioned your Bible.
The Bible as you have it today does not exist in the time Qu'ran was written.

Torah and Injeel are revelations to Moses and Jesus respectfully. They are not Bible that was written by Paul and many others!


That is the lie Islam taught you. Jesus never wrote or commanded any books. After 500years of Jesus' ascension was mohammed birth. He came to rewrite Israel' s history. More than 3000 years before was Moses' ministry and history.
When mohammed came with his 'revelation' and prophethood.. The Jews at that time were calling him mad man for twisting their long standing history. The Jews had erudite Historians and well documented records.


Till today, Jewish rabbis are still around with their records of over 5000 years.


Islam is a scam.
Think about it the Qur'an never mentioned Ishmael was sacrificed but you celebrate lie every year.
Antichristian, you display abysmal ignorance anytime you type gibberish here.

Anyways religion is not a matter of common ssense. So......

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Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by MightySparrow: 9:27am On Sep 30, 2021
AntiChristian:


I'm amazed at your ignorance. Islam is mentioned by Allah in the Qu'ran unlike Judaism and Christianity that were coined by men.

In Islam we believe all prophets including Jesus son of Mary. But you don't believe in our Prophet at all.

In Islam, we believe all those who follow each Prophet in truth till they die are Muslims and will enter paradise.

All those who follow Jesus in truth till they die especially among those he was sent to before the coming of the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam will enter Paradise.

No doubt Islam is the only way of life as Allah says what means:

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.
Qur'an 3:85



God told Moses that His name is jehovah, Who is this Allah? How come about this Allah?

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Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by MightySparrow: 11:59am On Sep 30, 2021
AntiChristian:


Error 404!

The Qu'ran never mentioned your Bible.
The Bible as you have it today does not exist in the time Qu'ran was written.

Torah and Injeel are revelations to Moses and Jesus respectfully. They are not Bible that was written by Paul and many others!

Mohammed stole Jew's scriptures, robbed Meccan's merchants, taught his people the art of stealing. Now they are not only rustling cattlea, breaking into banks but stealing girls. Ese Oruru comes to mind.
Here is a fresh one by followers of the prophet of Islam(SAW)

15 YEAR OLD JSS 2 STUDENT CHIOMA CHINEDU HYPNOTIZED AND ABOUT TO BE MARRIED TO A SUITOR IN KADUNA STATE.

Because it’s us, this will not make headline. The story of Chioma Chinedu, 15 year old JSS 2 student from Enugu State, abducted and converted to Islam in Anchau village Kaduna State should be a worry to us.

As at this moment, Chioma is no where to be found as her abductors have refused to let her go. She has been Hypnotized and about to be married off to a suitor #retrievechioma

I wish to commend the Igbo Communities for their effort and will continue to collaborate together till she’s out and get rehabilitated.

Nobody is against any religion but Chioma don’t deserve this mental torture and forced marriage.

Hypnotize is to influence, control, or direct completely, as by personal charm, words, or domination.

Harrison Gwamnishu
Child Rights

Antichristian, wise up and leave confusion.
Salvation is only of the Jews!
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by AntiChristian: 1:51pm On Sep 30, 2021
MightySparrow:


Mohammed stole Jew's scriptures, robbed Meccan's merchants, taught his people the art of stealing. Now they are not only rustling cattlea, breaking into banks but stealing girls. Ese Oruru comes to mind.
Here is a fresh one by followers of the prophet of Islam(SAW)

15 YEAR OLD JSS 2 STUDENT CHIOMA CHINEDU HYPNOTIZED AND ABOUT TO BE MARRIED TO A SUITOR IN KADUNA STATE.

Because it’s us, this will not make headline. The story of Chioma Chinedu, 15 year old JSS 2 student from Enugu State, abducted and converted to Islam in Anchau village Kaduna State should be a worry to us.

As at this moment, Chioma is no where to be found as her abductors have refused to let her go. She has been Hypnotized and about to be married off to a suitor #retrievechioma

I wish to commend the Igbo Communities for their effort and will continue to collaborate together till she’s out and get rehabilitated.

Nobody is against any religion but Chioma don’t deserve this mental torture and forced marriage.

Hypnotize is to influence, control, or direct completely, as by personal charm, words, or domination.

Harrison Gwamnishu
Child Rights

Antichristian, wise up and leave confusion.
Salvation is only of the Jews!

If you are aggrieved you are free to seek redress in court of competent jurisdiction. What does it mean to hypnotize someone? Could Jesus have failed to protect his children again?

You are the one in confusion bro!

Salvation is for all in Islam not only of/for the Jews.

You just keep bringing lies! Muhammad stole scriptures. Abeg which scriptures? Was is Deuteronomy, Leviticus, etc he stole or Matthew, Mark, Luke, etc? He is unlearned again. So he never stole. Even his contemporaries never used theft of scriptures in accusing him.

Your ignorance tends to infinity!
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by AntiChristian: 2:01pm On Sep 30, 2021
MightySparrow:


God told Moses that His name is jehovah, Who is this Allah? How come about this Allah?

Since your God gave Moses a name, which name did God gave Adam, Noah, and others who came before Moses?

Allah is the name of the Lord who has no son nor partners; the creator, sustainer and cherisher of all things.

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Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by enilove(m): 4:14pm On Sep 30, 2021
AntiChristian:


Since your God gave Moses a name, which name did God gave Adam, Noah, and others who came before Moses?

Allah is the name of the Lord who has no son nor partners; the creator, sustainer and cherisher of all things.

Allah is a moon god .

Why saying Allah has no son nor partner ? What about the 3 daughters of Allah Muhammad worshiped ?

Tafseer for surah 22:52.
NAsbab al-Nuzul
The commentators of the Qur'an said: "When the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, saw that his people were shunning him, he was aggrieved by their rejection of the message he brought them and he secretly wished that Allah, exalted is He, reveals something to him which would bring him and his people closer to each other, keen as he was to see them accept faith. One day, he sat in one of the congregations of Quraysh which attracted a huge number of its members, and he wished that Allah, exalted is He, does not reveal to him on that day anything that might repel them from him. Allah, exalted is He, revealed to him then Surah al-Najm (By the star when it stetteth…) [Surah 53]. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, recited it but when he reached (Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-'Uzza, and Manat, the third, the other) [53:19- 20], the devil put on his tongue what he had secretly wished and hoped for and said: 'These are the mighty cranes (gharaniq) and their intercession is hoped for'. When the Quraysh heard this, they were very pleased. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, carried on reciting until the end of the Surah and then prostrated. All the Muslims followed suit and prostrated, and all the idolaters who were present prostrated too. All those who were present, whether Muslim or disbeliever, prostrated except al-Walid ibn al- Mughirah and Abu Uhyahah Sa'id ibn al-'As who were too advanced in age and could not prostrate, but they both grabbed a handful of dust and put their foreheads on it. The Quraysh then dispersed, happy with what they heard. They said: 'Muhammad has mentioned our idols with complimentary terms. We know that Allah gives life and takes it away, He creates and provides sustenance, but these idols of ours will intercede for us with Him.

Allah and Allat are both related . Why is your god's name associated with the name of an idol ?
You are worshiping an idol and not God.

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Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by haekymbahd(m): 4:28pm On Sep 30, 2021
enilove:


Allah is a moon god .

Why saying Allah has no son nor partner ? What about the 3 daughters of Allah Muhammad worshiped ?

Tafseer for surah 22:52.
NAsbab al-Nuzul
The commentators of the Qur'an said: "When the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, saw that his people were shunning him, he was aggrieved by their rejection of the message he brought them and he secretly wished that Allah, exalted is He, reveals something to him which would bring him and his people closer to each other, keen as he was to see them accept faith. One day, he sat in one of the congregations of Quraysh which attracted a huge number of its members, and he wished that Allah, exalted is He, does not reveal to him on that day anything that might repel them from him. Allah, exalted is He, revealed to him then Surah al-Najm (By the star when it stetteth…) [Surah 53]. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, recited it but when he reached (Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-'Uzza, and Manat, the third, the other) [53:19- 20], the devil put on his tongue what he had secretly wished and hoped for and said: 'These are the mighty cranes (gharaniq) and their intercession is hoped for'. When the Quraysh heard this, they were very pleased. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, carried on reciting until the end of the Surah and then prostrated. All the Muslims followed suit and prostrated, and all the idolaters who were present prostrated too. All those who were present, whether Muslim or disbeliever, prostrated except al-Walid ibn al- Mughirah and Abu Uhyahah Sa'id ibn al-'As who were too advanced in age and could not prostrate, but they both grabbed a handful of dust and put their foreheads on it. The Quraysh then dispersed, happy with what they heard. They said: 'Muhammad has mentioned our idols with complimentary terms. We know that Allah gives life and takes it away, He creates and provides sustenance, but these idols of ours will intercede for us with Him.

Allah and Allat are both related . Why is your god's name associated with the name of an idol ?
You are worshiping an idol and not God.
since Arab christians and Jews also use the word Allah. Infact Allah is used as God in the Arabic bible.

1. Is The moon God the father of Jesus? Or the Arab christians and Jews are worshipping a different Jesus to the English Jesus


Mind you Christianity and Judaism were already in the Arab world before Muhammad received revelation mao don't say Muhammad influenced them.


2. What is the relationship between Allah and Allat?
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by enilove(m): 4:42pm On Sep 30, 2021
haekymbahd:
since Arab christians and Jews also use the word Allah. Infact Allah is used as God in the Arabic bible.

1. Is The moon God the father of Jesus? Or the Arab christians and Jews are worshipping a different Jesus to the English Jesus


Mind you Christianity and Judaism were already in the Arab world before Muhammad received revelation mao don't say Muhammad influenced them.


2. What is the relationship between Allah and Allat?

The Arab Christians never called on Allah. It was the ignorant Arabs who substituted the name of the God for Allah .

The Christians and the Jews in Arabia knew that the God of Muhammad was not the same God they worship. This was why they did not accept his religion .
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by haekymbahd(m): 4:49pm On Sep 30, 2021
enilove:


The Arab Christians never called on Allah. It was the ignorant Arabs who substituted the name of the God for Allah .

The Christians and the Jews in Arabia knew that the God of Muhammad was not the same God they worship. This was why they did not accept his religion .

They didn't call on Allah but they call on God abi?


Kindly give another name for God in Arabic?


They didn't worship the same God because Allah the creator had said clearly he is one and has no partners if the Arab christians claim their God has partners 3 in 1 then they are not worshipping our the Allah of Muhammad?

Same way you are not worshipping Jehovah of the Jehovah witness because he is purely 1 but you claim your God (Jehovah, Jesus, Holyspirit) is 3 in 1....
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by AntiChristian: 5:25pm On Sep 30, 2021
MightySparrow:


That is the lie Islam taught you. Jesus never wrote or commanded any books. After 500years of Jesus' ascension was mohammed birth. He came to rewrite Israel' s history. More than 3000 years before was Moses' ministry and history.
When mohammed came with his 'revelation' and prophethood.. The Jews at that time were calling him mad man for twisting their long standing history. The Jews had erudite Historians and well documented records.

Till today, Jewish rabbis are still around with their records of over 5000 years.

Islam is a scam.
Think about it the Qur'an never mentioned Ishmael was sacrificed but you celebrate lie every year.
Antichristian, you display abysmal ignorance anytime you type gibberish here.

Anyways religion is not a matter of common ssense. So......


The same Jewish Rabbis that says Mary was an adulterer and Jesus was born out of wedlock? grin

You get plenty common sense o!
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by enilove(m): 5:31pm On Sep 30, 2021
haekymbahd:
They didn't call on Allah but they call on God abi?


Kindly give another name for God in Arabic?


They didn't worship the same God because Allah the creator had said clearly he is one and has no partners if the Arab christians claim their God has partners 3 in 1 then they are not worshipping our the Allah of Muhammad?

Same way you are not worshipping Jehovah of the Jehovah witness because he is purely 1 but you claim your God (Jehovah, Jesus, Holyspirit) is 3 in 1....

The word ''God'' is a title and not a name.

The word God in Islam is ''Ilah'' . his name is Allah . Remember the Arabs had many gods with different names for them , some of which are Allat , Manat etc.

2) The God we worship is One as well . You can read this all over the old and the new testaments :

Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord :

Micah 4:5 KJV
For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the Lord our God for ever and ever.

Ephesians 4:6 KJV
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

By merely saying ONE GOD does not mean ONE TRUE GOD .This is just words of mouth but not a fact if the True God is not the one you worship and does not know you as His worshiper.

James 2:19 KJV
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Believing there is one God and shouting '' one God '' does not make you His worshiper . What makes you His worshiper is calling upon His name and doing His commandments.

Islam is a religion of another god with different commandments , doctrines and different mode of worship.

3)
We worship Jehovah God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. But the Jehovah's witness organization members claim they worship Jehovah God , which may be true or false. One thing is they have many heresies in their doctrines.

Even though there a billions of Christians globally , it does not mean they are all worshiping the True God.

Many Christians are worshiping money and other earthly things and are still going to church .

The truth is this , Islam is completely of Satan.
Re: Do Muslims Pray Like Jesus Christ? by AntiChristian: 5:47pm On Sep 30, 2021
enilove:


Allah is a moon god .

Why saying Allah has no son nor partner ? What about the 3 daughters of Allah Muhammad worshiped ?

Tafseer for surah 22:52.
NAsbab al-Nuzul
The commentators of the Qur'an said: "When the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, saw that his people were shunning him, he was aggrieved by their rejection of the message he brought them and he secretly wished that Allah, exalted is He, reveals something to him which would bring him and his people closer to each other, keen as he was to see them accept faith. One day, he sat in one of the congregations of Quraysh which attracted a huge number of its members, and he wished that Allah, exalted is He, does not reveal to him on that day anything that might repel them from him. Allah, exalted is He, revealed to him then Surah al-Najm (By the star when it stetteth…) [Surah 53]. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, recited it but when he reached (Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-'Uzza, and Manat, the third, the other) [53:19- 20], the devil put on his tongue what he had secretly wished and hoped for and said: 'These are the mighty cranes (gharaniq) and their intercession is hoped for'. When the Quraysh heard this, they were very pleased. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, carried on reciting until the end of the Surah and then prostrated. All the Muslims followed suit and prostrated, and all the idolaters who were present prostrated too. All those who were present, whether Muslim or disbeliever, prostrated except al-Walid ibn al- Mughirah and Abu Uhyahah Sa'id ibn al-'As who were too advanced in age and could not prostrate, but they both grabbed a handful of dust and put their foreheads on it. The Quraysh then dispersed, happy with what they heard. They said: 'Muhammad has mentioned our idols with complimentary terms. We know that Allah gives life and takes it away, He creates and provides sustenance, but these idols of ours will intercede for us with Him.

Allah and Allat are both related . Why is your god's name associated with the name of an idol ?
You are worshiping an idol and not God.

Abeg which Tafsir is this, enilove the lovely lair?

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