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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by plaindealer: 5:50pm On Nov 21, 2021
jmaine:


This is not fiction.... See below...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2020/07/02/the-science-of-why-firing-your-gun-up-into-the-air-can-be-lethal/?sh=77054eb9ff65


He, however, said the blanks submitted by the panel, didn’t match the records from the Nigerian Army’s inventory.

“While the blank ammunition submitted by the Nigerian Army is not of the same caliber as the cartridge casings submitted by the Judicial Panel.




“The blank ammunition submitted by the Nigerian Army is not designed to be fired by rifles chambered to 7.62 x 39mm.

https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2021/09/10/lekki-shooting-forensic-expert-submits-report-to-judicial-panel/



The panel recovered bullet casings from the LTG even though they lied that the place was spent clean by the state to cover evidence, ask them if the casings they recovered were from live bullets or the ones used by the military.

Find something better to peddle, NEXT.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by plaindealer: 5:54pm On Nov 21, 2021
IPIGSRMUMU:
This committee is even worse than the govt. They can't even fulfill a simple tack of identifying the victims.
Just imagine if these are the ones running the affairs of the whole state or country.
This goes to show how incompetent and corrupt the average Nigerian is.
This is sad on many levels.
Smh


The way they lied and rigged this report, imagine asking these liars to run and conduct an election?

God help us, this is 2021, and we still have crooks, liars and fraudulent people blazingly and fraudulently committing crime while charged to probe crime and criminal activities?

Who can you really trust in this country?

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by OmoEpe(m): 6:06pm On Nov 21, 2021
Lionnation:
People seem to be mistaken, and they forgot not everyone you see in Lagos have relatives, most of them ran away from home to prostitute in Lagos or do other vices or petty jobs, most of the people killed had their bodies taken away by the soldiers, not everyone have an Internet's enabled phone. So let's also put all of this in consideration while making assertions


Does it make sense to you that only runaways were killed in such a large gathering


Oga don't try to spin it, the report is as useless and senseless as the P in psychology

Only people who lack reasoning abilities will even countenance it's existence

Both the writer and the believers need mental evaluation

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by ba7man(m): 6:08pm On Nov 21, 2021
plaindealer:



The bullets were laser guided and precision munitions with in flight meandering capabilities, they manoeuvre from the sky, move down pass the dead and the shoulder and just hit them in the chest and abdomen.

Naija wonder.. grin grin
I still don't get how daft some people can be to believe that Ak-47s were unleashed on a crowd and identifying a victim or providing an irrefutable evidence escapes them, even 1yr later.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by plaindealer: 6:10pm On Nov 21, 2021
OmoEpe:



Does it make sense to you that only runaways were killed in such a large gathering


Oga don't try to spin it, the report is as useless and senseless as the P in psychology

Only people who lack reasoning abilities will even countenance it's existence

Both the writer and the believers need mental evaluation


This is why I don't even bother to engage some of them on NL, their posts makes zero sense, they show lack of sane and rational thoughts. Sometimes you wonder if these are adults or 2-year-old kids.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by jmaine: 6:12pm On Nov 21, 2021
labisibrass:


You can't educate me on this trust me. I don't need to open it.

Facts are sacrosanct... It does not yield to emotion and sentiments..

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by jmaine: 6:16pm On Nov 21, 2021
plaindealer:






The panel recovered bullet casings from the LTG even though they lied that the place was spent clean by the state to cover evidence, ask them if the casings they recovered were from live bullets or the ones used by the military.

Find something better to peddle, NEXT.



Protesters picked bullet casings on the night of the incidence... You have to pick another line.... There is a limit to propaganda... NEXT...
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by plaindealer: 6:17pm On Nov 21, 2021
ba7man:
I still don't get how daft some people can be to believe that Ak-47s were unleashed on a crowd and identifying a victim or providing an irrefutable evidence escapes them, even 1yr later.


The thing is, if the military actually fired into the crowd, there won't be second guessing if people died or not, nothing but bodies everywhere, bloodbath and real carnage on the ground with audio, video and photographic images of blood and death.

In fact, news media folks were there and did not see one wounded or killed protester.

This is one massacre and shooting incident that never transpired.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by jmaine: 6:17pm On Nov 21, 2021
BafanaBafana:

Na fake CNN report be your facts?
There was a forensic report on the matter bros.

At this rate, only Alausa media releases will satisfy your cravings...
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by chrisvic007: 6:19pm On Nov 21, 2021
Anieke77:
Although she is making a point. But she should go and sit down

When you know know she is making a good point with her submission, why do you want her to shut up (sit down)?. Are you an agent of deceit like DJ Switch.

The panel's report is a very big legal embarrassment going by the much vaunted caliber of the panelists (with the possible exception of that midget, Rinu). The report shows explicitly that the whole #endsars, the attendant riots, the #lekkilies, and the panel set up are all machinations of opposition politicians on Nigeria.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by plaindealer: 6:25pm On Nov 21, 2021
jmaine:


Protesters picked bullet casings on the night of the incidence... You have to pick another line.... There is a limit to propaganda... NEXT...


1. Protesters are not members of the panel and if in fact protesters picked up bullets, were the bullets from blanks, fired by the military or from other sources? Do you know or were you there to investigate, question the protesters, analyse and submit the casings to forensic tests to determine the origin and usage? No.

2. The only authority charged to say anything about casings are members of the panel and the forensic experts, not you're peddling false narratives and rubbish outside the realm of facts submitted to the panel under oath.

What protesters say or did not say outside the panel is rubbish, and you are old enough to know this.

The quality of your argument is just too low, flimsy and shallow. Raise your bar.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by Benbellamor: 6:28pm On Nov 21, 2021
plaindealer:



1. Protesters are not members of the panel and if in fact protesters picked up bullets, were the bullets from blanks, fired by the military or from other sources? Do you know or were you there to investigate, question the protesters, analyse and submit the casings to forensic tests to determine the origin and usage? No.

2. The only authority charged to say anything about casings are members of the panel and the forensic experts, not you're peddling false narratives and rubbish outside the realm of facts submitted to the panel under oath.

What protesters say or did not say outside the panel is rubbish, and you are old enough to know this.

The quality of your argument is just too low, flimsy and shallow. Raise your bar.



According to which Law principle?
When was protesters barred from giving evidence of bullets casing?
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by IPIGSRMUMU: 6:30pm On Nov 21, 2021
plaindealer:



The way they lied and rigged this report, imagine asking these liars to run and conduct an election?

God help us, this is 2021, and we still have crooks, liars and fraudulent people blazingly and fraudulently committing crime while charged to probe crime and criminal activities?

Who can you really trust in this country?

It's really really sad. Just a simple task and they failed woefully.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by jmaine: 6:32pm On Nov 21, 2021
plaindealer:



1. Protesters are not members of the panel and if in fact protesters picked up bullets, were the bullets from blanks, fired by the military or from other sources? Do you know or were you there to investigate, question the protesters, analyse and submit the casings to forensic tests to determine the origin and usage? No.

2. The only authority charged to say anything about casings are members of the panel and the forensic experts, not you're peddling false narratives and rubbish outside the realm of facts submitted to the panel under oath.

What protesters say or did not say outside the panel is rubbish, and you are old enough to know this.

The quality of your argument is just too low, flimsy and shallow. Raise your bar


Lolz.. Imagine the rabble rousing Eko Ike, Agbameta seeking to engage in an exercise he is not competent in....

You feel I am not used to your tactics of deploying gutter behaviour to win an argument, a style that has lost steam... Look at around.. Only kids old enough to be your kids engage in that...

Meanwhile, you deliberately engage in lies to please your benefactors... Why did you omit the part attached below... Any explanation to that...?

You see why no one should take you serious... You are planted here to propagate barefaced lies...

This is 2021.... Grow up....

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by Benbellamor: 6:33pm On Nov 21, 2021
chrisvic007:


When you know know she is making a good point with her submission, why do you want her to shut up (sit down)?. Are you an agent of deceit like DJ Switch.

The panel's report is a very big legal embarrassment going by the much vaunted caliber of the panelists (with the possible exception of that midget, Rinu). The report shows explicitly that the whole #endsars, the attendant riots, the #lekkilies, and the panel set up are all machinations of opposition politicians on Nigeria.
a know pseudo lunatic making sense? What has happened to Nairaland lately is bad ooo grin cheesy
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by Benbellamor: 6:34pm On Nov 21, 2021
jmaine:


Lolz.. Imagine the rabble rousing Eko Ike, Agbameta seeking to engage in en exercise he is not competent in....

You feel I am not used to your tactics of deploying gutter behaviour to win an argument, a style that has lost steam... Look at around.. Only kids old enough to be your kids engage in that...

Meanwhile, you deliberately engage in lies to please your benefactors... Why did you omit the part attached below... Any explanation to that...

You see why no one should take you serious... You are planted here to propagate barefaced lies...
bros stop replying them...they have no work than to sap you of your energy.... Don't dignify them with your time...
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by jmaine: 6:40pm On Nov 21, 2021
Benbellamor:
bros stop replying them...they have no work than to sap you of your energy.... Don't dignify them with your time...

Make i go relax as you talk..... I have better things to engage in than waste valuable time on unreliable, and insensitive folks....

Cheers bro.
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by plaindealer: 6:42pm On Nov 21, 2021
Benbellamor:
According to which Law principle?
When was protesters barred from giving evidence of bullets casing?


Who said some law barred protesters from giving evidence? Do you even know how to read and comprehend.

Protesters don't give valid and corroborated testimonies to internet users and NL members, the place to go with evidence and proof of crime is before the panel for their evidence to be registered under oath.

You should e asking why the so-called protesters failed to do the right thing by taking their internet casings to the panel.

Besides, we already have on record that the panel recovered their own casings from the LTG and according to their own forensic expert, it had nothing to do with military ammunitions and was never used by the military.

This is a serous discussion, you people need to leave your emotions somewhere and start engaging with real facts, common sense, proper reading and comprehension.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by Benbellamor: 6:46pm On Nov 21, 2021
plaindealer:



Who said some law barred protesters from giving evidence? Do you even know how to read and comprehend.

Protesters don't give valid and corroborated testimonies to internet users and NL members, the place to go with evidence and proof of crime is before the panel for their evidence to be registered under oath.

You should e asking why the so-called protesters failed to do the right thing by taking their internet casings to the panel.

Besides, we already have on record that the panel recovered their own casings from the LTG and according to their own forensic expert, it had nothing to do with military ammunitions and was never used by the military.

This is a serous discussion, you people need to leave your emotions somewhere and start engaging with real facts, common sense, proper reading and comprehension.

are you suffering from a brain damage? Just asking ni o....again I ask
According to what Law principle? That only panel members can present evidence about bullet..
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by JuanDeDios: 6:50pm On Nov 21, 2021
khalleb:

So Why did they back out if not that they were paid to come out
Read the second line of my post. Your answer is there. Now tell me who paid them, how much and show your receipts - if you're not just making this up. Maybe you're the one who has been paid.
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by plaindealer: 6:50pm On Nov 21, 2021
jmaine:


Lolz.. Imagine the rabble rousing Eko Ike, Agbameta seeking to engage in an exercise he is not competent in....

You feel I am not used to your tactics of deploying gutter behaviour to win an argument, a style that has lost steam... Look at around.. Only kids old enough to be your kids engage in that...

Meanwhile, you deliberately engage in lies to please your benefactors... Why did you omit the part attached below... Any explanation to that...?

You see why no one should take you serious... You are planted here to propagate barefaced lies...

This is 2021.... Grow up....






While speaking, Kayode confirmed that the Cartridge Casing obtained from the Lekki Toll Gate are of the same caliber as the Nigerian Army’s Live Ammunition.

“The live ammunition presented by the Nigerian Army is of the same caliber as the cartridge casing submitted by the judicial panel,” he said.

He, however, said the blanks submitted by the panel, didn’t match the records from the Nigerian Army’s inventory.

“While the blank ammunition submitted by the Nigerian Army is not of the same caliber as the cartridge casings submitted by the Judicial Panel.

“The blank ammunition submitted by the Nigerian Army is not designed to be fired by rifles chambered to 7.62 x 39mm.”


https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2021/09/10/lekki-shooting-forensic-expert-submits-report-to-judicial-panel/


Look at this crook, why didn't you post the rest of what the man said? You are too crooked and fraudulent, you are trying not to ecpose your own lies?

You and the crooked panel must have studied lying from the same school of lying.

This is what the man said in black and white

The blanks submitted by the panel, didn’t match the records from the Nigerian Army’s inventory.

“While the blank ammunition submitted by the Nigerian Army is not of the same caliber as the cartridge casings submitted by the Judicial Panel.

“The blank ammunition submitted by the Nigerian Army is not designed to be fired by rifles chambered to 7.62 x 39mm.”

Btw, why must I attache what has nothing to do with the final analysis?

You crooks can not fool me, confine your lies and deception to your fellow Igbos..


grin grin

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by plaindealer: 6:54pm On Nov 21, 2021
“While the blank ammunition submitted by the Nigerian Army is not of the same caliber as the cartridge casings submitted by the Judicial Panel.

“The blank ammunition submitted by the Nigerian Army is not designed to be fired by rifles chambered to 7.62 x 39mm.”


Before another ignorant poster repeat any rubbish about live bullets or the military killing people, let this sink into our head.

grin grin

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by Lionnation: 7:08pm On Nov 21, 2021
OmoEpe:



Does it make sense to you that only runaways were killed in such a large gathering


Oga don't try to spin it, the report is as useless and senseless as the P in psychology

Only people who lack reasoning abilities will even countenance it's existence

Both the writer and the believers need mental evaluation
their names are there go and look for their corpse, they will show you
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by mapet: 7:10pm On Nov 21, 2021
lastcall:
The question is what did the army go to a peaceful and organized protest to do!!

The answer is they were deployed after a joint security meeting the previous day that came to the position that Lagos was falling and the Police was being overwhelmed. Any other question?

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by plaindealer: 7:16pm On Nov 21, 2021
Lionnation:
their names are there go and look for their corpse, they will show you


So, the panel can not tell us how they obtained the names and they can not even show us the corpses, but you on NL obviously know more than the panel itself.

Please tell me the place, I want to go and look..

Comedian.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by BafanaBafana: 7:22pm On Nov 21, 2021
jmaine:


At this rate, only Alausa media releases will satisfy your cravings...
You choose to believe a secondary video analysis of CNN because it fits your narrative.
I chose to believe a forensic investigation which produced facts.
You were among those who believed Buhari is a clone right?

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by bergs2: 7:25pm On Nov 21, 2021
mu2sa2:
The Brit is a renowned ballistics expert and his expertise was sought by sending the bullet shells recovered at lekki tollgate to him for forensic analysis. He did his work professionally. Why would I not believe his report. You want me to believe so-called eyewitnesses, who are hoodlums and rascals who went there to hijack the protest.

That line of argument is very weak.
In this context, truth cannot be relative; do you also believe the "professional " to tell you facts that are obvious?
Maybe, the "professional" experts would also make decisions for you.
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by plaindealer: 7:27pm On Nov 21, 2021
BafanaBafana:

You choose to believe a secondary video analysis of CNN because it fits your narrative.
I chose to believe a forensic investigation which produced facts.
You were among those who believed Buhari is a clone right?


Pretty much.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by bergs2: 7:31pm On Nov 21, 2021
mu2sa2:
The Brit is a renowned ballistics expert and his expertise was sought by sending the bullet shells recovered at lekki tollgate to him for forensic analysis. He did his work professionally. Why would I not believe his report. You want me to believe so-called eyewitnesses, who are hoodlums and rascals who went there to hijack the protest.

Are you for real?
What would be more reliable: invite myriad of Lekki occupants for eyewitness report or buy a "Foreign Professional" expert all the way from Britain?
I hope Super Agent Fashola was not also imported to discover hidden Camera from a crime scene?
The purported denial of Lekki massacre is only a charade and I know if the govt invites the Expert, then they must also pay him; I think it is easier to constrain him than millions of protesters.
I shudder at your reasoning! I am fearful for the legacy we are building.
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by gressie(m): 7:45pm On Nov 21, 2021
That was after the shooting had stopped and people were rallying round to help the wonded and the dying that were lying down
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by Prophet777: 7:46pm On Nov 21, 2021
Kindly open the link below to see a mother whose child was shot to death by soldiers at the Lekki Toll-Gate exactly a year ago:

http://saharareporters.com/2021/10/19/endsars-%E2%80%98how-my-eldest-son-died-my-arms-last-october-after-lekki-tollgate-shooting%E2%80%99-%E2%80%93
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by IfnobeGod20: 7:57pm On Nov 21, 2021
NaijaFutbol:
Nothing is more fictitious than this woman grin


Good that she confirmed the death of Nathaniel Solomon’s brother at Lekki toll gate.

Let us even say that out of 14 dead/missing, that half are fictitious, the fact remains that some soldiers shot at unarmed protesters, prevented ambulances from accessing the place, doctored videos and cleaned up the place to cover up their mess.

For those still saying that there was no massacre at Lekki Toll Gate, there is no need arguing with you guys. No level of evidence will make you guys use your brain cheesy

Mr. Man, did you read her submission or you're just all out wanting her to just submit that there are massacre at Lekki tollgate.
The same submission she submitted I have asked them severally.
1. Are you people telling us that the killing was selective, that the bullets were looking for those that have no family to ask of them or sympathy for them.
2. Does that mean out of 9 they claimed died, all their families are docile and with I don't care attitude?
If you had left your self emotion behind and follow through what auntie Kemi wrote, which any right thinking person will also admit to. Why are many of them in this tech world, have no traceable facebook account that can be traced to their names while those with accounts, no single condolences submitted on their account.
There are times, we just need to leave behind emotions and treat issues logically rather than swim in ignorance.
I'm not saying there is no possibility of deaths recorded at Lekki tollgate but this can only be proven beyond reasonable doubt, if their families show up. We cannot be treating a big issue of deaths in an arbitrary way. The life of human being matter too much.

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