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Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by kenn4rill(m): 7:22am On Nov 24, 2021 |
You can imagine a government that promised to fix our refineries. But come to think of it, they prefer paying #250 billion monthly for subsidy according to them, rather than building more rifineries and upgrading the old ones. Always looking for ways to cause more hardship to Nigerians. This is getting out of hand. 1 Like |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Munzy14(m): 7:22am On Nov 24, 2021 |
Racoon:Elrufai is the biggest hypocrite in Nigeria..Very wicked human. He lead the opposition of subsidy removal in 2012..Now he wants it totally removed.. We watch. 2 Likes |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by DOTian: 7:25am On Nov 24, 2021 |
Few years ago, this administration raised the prices of petroleum products under the guise of removing the much vaunted fuel subsidy! So what subsidy was removed then and what subsidy are they about to remove again? 1 Like |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by kay10: 7:29am On Nov 24, 2021 |
Nigeria government is a big scam,what exactly is the problem of nnpc refinery, why can't this useless government is lease out the refinery for foreign investors? https://guardian.ng/news/nigerias-26-5-billion-maintenance-cost-enough-to-build-three-new-refineries/ Nigeria’s $26.5 billion maintenance cost enough to build three new refineries By Kingsley Jeremiah, Abuja 21 March 2021 | 4:32 am Port Harcourt refinery. • Proposed Refinery In Katsina Costs $2b, TAM For Old Facility $1.5b • $1.5b Fresh Approval Higher Than 10-year Capital Allocation To Health • TAM Three Times Higher Than 10-year Education Budget The whopping sum of $26.5b, which the Federal Government has so far spent on the maintenance of its loss-making 445, 000 barrels/day capacity refineries, is capable of building three new refineries of the same size going by the cost analysis of refinery projects across the world. Besides, the latest approval granted by President Muhammadu Buhari, who is also the Minister of Petroleum Resources for the rehabilitation of the 210, 000 barrels per day Port Harcourt Refinery is higher than the total capital allocation to the health sector by successive governments from 2009 to 2018. Costing close to the $2b proposed refinery expected to be built in Katsina, Nigeria’s spending on refinery maintenance is, in fact, three times higher than the entire budgetary allocation to education between 2009 and 2018. The Federal Executive Council (FEC), presided over by Buhari, last week approved the sum of $1.5b (about N575b), for immediate commencement of rehabilitation works on the largest refining company in the country, the 32-year-old Port Harcourt Refinery. The Minister of State for Petroleum Resources, Chief Timipre Sylva, explained thereafter that contract for the rehabilitation was awarded to Italian firm, Tecnimont SPA, and would be executed in three phases. The first phase is expected to be completed within 28 months, Sylva said, adding that the second and third phases would be completed in 24 and 44 months respectively. Nigeria has three refineries located in Kaduna, Port Harcourt and Warri. These assets’ installed capacity of 445, 000 bpd plummeted over the years until the facility got obsolete and currently processes zero crude, while recording massive losses. The $1.5b approved last week for the TAM thus pushed the hitherto $25b for the same purpose to $26.5 billion. The previous figure was never refuted by the government. Buried in corruption with series of probes at the National Assembly indicting public officials for misappropriating funds meant for TAM, documents on the financial details of previous maintenance exercises, especially since the military regime have been scanty. A close look at some refinery projects across the world show that the country would have built about three efficient refineries if funds spent on TAM were used for the construction of new refineries, instead of continuously maintaining existing refineries, which were performing poorly despite several attempts to revive them. The Pacifico Eloy Alfaro Refinery and Petrochemical Complex (Pacific Refinery) being constructed at El Aromo, Manta, in the province of Manabi, Ecuador is a 500, 000 barrels per day (bpd) facility, and was built for $12b. Dangote Refinery, a 650, 000 (bpd) integrated refinery and petrochemical facility is being constructed for about $15b. Kuwait is also building Al Zour Oil Refinery for $16b. The capacity of the refinery is 615,000 bpd. With the nation’s three refineries having a combined capacity of 445, 000 bpd, the implication is that it would cost less than $8b to build a new 210, 000 bpd refinery in Port Harcourt (the same size with the existing one). It should also cost less than $8b to build a new refinery in Warri, where the existing one, which was built in 1987, has total capacity 125, 000 barrels per stream day. The Kaduna Refinery has a nameplate refining capacity of 110, 000 barrels per day. If a similar facility were to be built in the area, it would cost less than $8b. The three refineries would therefore cost only about $24b. 2 Likes |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by almarthins(m): 7:34am On Nov 24, 2021 |
HonestFriend: Buhari, tinubu, tunde bakari and the rest that publicly protested against jonathan ow him a public apology and Nigerians that gullibly believed them in 2012. Shameless criminals 3 Likes |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by DOTian: 7:37am On Nov 24, 2021 |
backbencher: Have we not heard this before? Is there even a real subsidy? Is this not a hoax? The same people that argued that the socalled subsidy was non existent few years back, are the people fighting for the removal of the subsidy today! Where did the epiphany happen? And why is the government and her agencies more interested in pilling up the enermous burden of economic trauma on the people? Why is nobody talking of reducing the cost of governance? Recurrent expenditure is at all times high but the government is not bothered! Remove the subsidy to have enough money to pay some ineffective civil servants whose yearly emoluments are now basically consuming the whole budget? Who are the owners of the oil blocs being auctioned off by the presidency like a bazaar? Can't that process be managed to earn more for the state? Is it not obvious the government doesn't care about the level of poverty in the land? 1 Like |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Nobody: 7:37am On Nov 24, 2021 |
kay10: 1Leasing out the refineries to foreign investors would only work if the foreign investors were allowed to set the price of fuel that they refine otherwise they won't make enough profit to maintain and upgrade the refineries 2..I agree government.should have used the 26 billion to build new refineries. But all the new refineries would lose money if they are forced to sell fuel at a loss. And then they would break down like the old ones. Plus there is the problem of what we would do with the old refineries. Do we let them rot and waste money for nothing? Or do we sell them and agree that the new buyers can set the price of fuel, thus meaning no subsides? Modified (A subsidy is the amount of money Government pays to the petroleum industry as compensation for selling fuel below its actual cost price or below its cost of production. Subsides rise and fall with the rise and fall of the cost of production of fuel..which is dependent on the cost of crude oil, cost of refining and transporting refined product, and cost of marketing the product. Ideally marketers should be allowed to set the price of petrol, so that they can have a profit, and enable profits to be made along the supply chain and the manufacturing chain. But because that means higher prices of things like food, government has been subsidising fuel since the 1970's.) |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Nobody: 7:39am On Nov 24, 2021 |
DOTian:I posted a link on this thread to an article that can give some insight. Check all my comments on this thread. Especially those on the first page of this thread Modified: Here is the link Fuel subsidies in Nigeria: they’re bad for the economy, but the lifeblood of politicians |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Enyimbamercedes: 7:41am On Nov 24, 2021 |
Says the little rascal of Kaduna. Let’s do small mathematics How much is the subsidy monthly / annually? Depending on the thief you ask, it varies. The President even claimed there was nothing like a subsidy. Now they want to remove the opaque subsidy for an even shadier scheme where they pay out 2.4 trillion naira a year to “deserving poorest people”. They haven’t named the poorest beneficiaries of the Abacha’s loot and now they want to spend 2.4 trillion a year on an untraceable scheme! Election funds loading 2 Likes |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by orikoku: 7:44am On Nov 24, 2021 |
Bunch of hypocrite. But they did not support minimum wage. |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by afamaustin(m): 7:58am On Nov 24, 2021 |
The don't care about the poor. |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by drealcivilceno(m): 8:00am On Nov 24, 2021 |
Nigerians don't know yet... You see that dollar to Naira will now fall yakata, they you will find out that it was never export or import that cause it but rather, the economy inflation. I wish we Nigerians are smart and are not clueless. SALIMAN: 1 Like |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Ofolete: 8:13am On Nov 24, 2021 |
Leaders from Lucifer are currently in control. They met fuel at N86 and promised to make it N30 but today they are finally taking it above N300. The truth is that Housa people are the most illiterates people on earth. They have sent Nigeria 100% backwards than what it would have been. Housas are the greatest enemies of this great country, Nigeria. The earlier you know this the better for the nation. Look at the country sanitised by OBJ, who cleared the debt that was owing by the country, he brought food everywhere, made peace among the earthnic communities, made life very easy in all ramifications but the current leaders stepped into power with impunity, hatred, tribalism, corruption, embezzlement, wickedness, killing of innocent citizens and what have you. I am just pitying civil servants. They have suffered more than everybody under these ekwensu people. The useless government gave them shadow minimum wage i.e increment = tax. Every civil servant is on his own. Prices are going up and up everyday but nothing comes for civil servants. It is a shame to this government. 2 Likes |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Fernandeswagger(m): 8:30am On Nov 24, 2021 |
No wahala. Increase fuel price to N350/litre. We will coordinate a national protest too, atleast it's our right as well. You want to completely improvish the masses. These muppets don't even buy fuel, that's how ironic the Nigerian govt is structured. So they won't even feel the effects of their daft policies. 1 Like |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Kraytur: 8:45am On Nov 24, 2021 |
Uber from mainland to island hold your 20k per trip Danfo mainland to island hold your 5k Okada hold your 7k Generator usage 10 ltrs hold your 3k You see this 2022 Na max cash out for apc They know they won’t cling that power over again so they wanna take all they can now before they leave Hence the incessant unnecessary loans and crazy killer policies Una carry favoritism enter politics Las las We enter am |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Iliya1520: 9:35am On Nov 24, 2021 |
I want know what they did with last subsidy they removed last time, I have not seen any positive effect that the removal of last subsidy made in this country, but they also want remove again. 1 Like |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Diligent1(f): 11:10am On Nov 24, 2021 |
When the military man was there we were buying cup of rice for N10 and he was paying subsidy but now that Buhari has removed 96% of subsidy, we are buying cup of rice for N120 1 Like |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Seghapptech: 11:29am On Nov 24, 2021 |
They will support na Because they don't buy wit their money |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Salis2020: 1:05pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
And they will see the kind of protest they have never seen before. thanks |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Birikiti: 3:29pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
I'm sure every right thinking Nigerian is in support of subsidy removal from petroleum products. However, the age-long question has been "Why can't the refineries be fixed before you remove subsidy finally?" Better still, the govt can have an arrangement to have all refineries fixed and running at full capacity in a Public-Private partnership like we have with NLNG!. Removing subsidy without fixing existing refineries is what everyone is against, simple! |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by ivandragon: 8:37pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
backbencher: Permit me to respectfully state that your position on the removal of fuel subsidy conveys just part of the truth. This administration is playing politics with fuel subsidy. The fact remains that the South is subsidising the North & that is reason the government is still fixing prices. If true subsidy is allowed to come into play, there is no way lagosians will pay similar prices for fuel with those in sokoto or Niger. Why? There is what is called bridging charges (that's the real internal subsidy) which is what is paid to ensure that fuel prices in the South remain similar with those up north. If those charges are removed, lagos & its environs can get fuel for as low as 120-140 per litre. But the further inland you go, the more expensive it gets. So in places like Abuja & environs, it could get as high as 350 per litre while it can hit 450 per litre in sokoto & environs. It is also for this reason the government is dragging its feet on fixing refineries in the south because it will be cheaper in the south due to proximity & higher demand but more expensive further inland. So if the government wants to remove subsidy, it should do so wholly & allow market forces determine the prices while it plays a regulatory role only. 1 Like |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Nobody: 9:20pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
ivandragon: Which is what I want., and yes, I know prices will differ from place to place. Still doesn't change my mind about removing subsidy. We can't keep on pouring money down a big hole in the name of subsidy...the thing should have gone since the 1980's. Forget politics...subsidy has to go. It does not matter what your political view is, whether APC, PDP, secession, no secession, whatever...subsidy has to go. it is costing too much and it has cost us 4 refineries, lots of jobs , and billions of naira down the drain. |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by djkirkoo2(m): 6:54am On Nov 26, 2021 |
backbencher:same Sanusi that said subsidy was fraud under GEJ? |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by Nobody: 8:18am On Nov 26, 2021 |
djkirkoo2: Actually SLS was campaigning for subsidy removal even as far back as 2011 His beef with the GEJ government was that he got suspicious ( unnecessarily as it may have turned out) that the goverment was still paying 20 billion dollars as kerosene subsidy which had been removed some time previously. Otherwise on petrol subsidy, the guy thinks it should go. That is one drum he has been beating for ages |
Re: El-Rufai: State Governments Will Support Total Removal Of Fuel Subsidy by djkirkoo2(m): 1:18am On Dec 07, 2021 |
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