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Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by BKayy: 4:40pm On Nov 25, 2021
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Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by Gkay1(m): 4:42pm On Nov 25, 2021
Beedude:

Wenger was a specialist in failure according to Jose Mourinho.

But looking at 3 EPL in 22 yrs and 7 FA cup in 22yrs. I am not sure he has up to 17 titles out of the 88 titles he contested for.

To think Wenger is their most decorated coach of all time shows that Arsenal FC Problems were inherited. I come in peace
na u talk am o. Arsenal fc should forget yesterday and think about tomorrow. 22years without any European trophy and yet people are celebrating him.
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by Ruggman: 4:47pm On Nov 25, 2021
Good Idea, Wenger will surely bring positive influence and moral boost to arsenal.
Don't delay in bringing him back
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by INCREDIBLE007(m): 4:48pm On Nov 25, 2021
KingEverest:
grin wenger my man Mr. 9Bean

Wenger and Rowan Atkinson resemble no be small
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by Jnrp(m): 4:53pm On Nov 25, 2021
Werey you be focus on your Job n leave that grandpa alone grin
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by Cantonese: 4:53pm On Nov 25, 2021
Beedude:

Wenger was a specialist in failure according to Jose Mourinho.

But looking at 3 EPL in 22 yrs and 7 FA cup in 22yrs. I am not sure he has up to 17 titles out of the 88 titles he contested for.

To think Wenger is their most decorated coach of all time shows that Arsenal FC Problems were inherited. I come in peace

And you think championships are won by power or having the best players and teams? If it were so why then did “common” Leicester city win the league that year with unknown names?

Your Mourinho who termed Wenger a specialist in failure, how far has he gone in the last few years? On two of occasions he has been sacked. Aside from the cups that he won, what other meaningful contribution has he made to the game?

To who honor is due please give it to him. The truth still remains that Wenger transformed football both in England and the rest of the world. What he missed by cups amassed, he won by his contributions to the development of football.

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Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by Nobody: 5:00pm On Nov 25, 2021
Mikel Arteta just say my mind out, I was also thinking same thing as Arteta, nice one up Gunners
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by Zainabthegirl1(f): 5:01pm On Nov 25, 2021
This arteta get problem
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by healthyguy(m): 5:04pm On Nov 25, 2021
Arsene wenger will be a huge asset for Arsenal

Way to go
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by abbey621(m): 5:09pm On Nov 25, 2021
Cantonese:


And you think championships are won by power or having the best players and teams? If it were so why then did “common” Leicester city win the league that year with unknown names?

Your Mourinho who termed Wenger a specialist in failure, how far has he gone in the last few years? On two of occasions he has been sacked. Aside from the cups that he won, what other meaningful contribution has he made to the game?

To who honor is due please give it to him. The truth still remains that Wenger transformed football both in England and the rest of the world. What he missed by cups amassed, he won by his contributions to the development of football.

You're joking right, especially at the bolded? Every coach has his or her era, show me a coach that has been dominant for over 2 decades and I'll show you some of his or her flaws. Mourinho's contribution to the game cannot be diminished, hate or love him please don't ever utter such ridiculous statement again. He brought back defensive strength to England, he provided the blueprint how to defeat tiki-taka and massively overpowered attacking teams, a defensive genius. Yes he's beyond his prime now but do not ever compare a local champion like Wenger to Mourinho, they are not mates. You can try to to justify his inferior trophy count by saying he changed the game but the truth is simple, the greatest of coaches are known for winning, 2 decades in the Champions League and he only managed one final yet you disparage someone that won it with Porto of all teams, let's not even talk about Inter.....Guy don't get me angry grin grin grin
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by kokomilala(m): 5:16pm On Nov 25, 2021
@paulolee,nah! You're the one not thinking outside the box. Arteta is thinking- I'm certain - alongside some heavies in the club. They're banking on Wenger's wealth of experience and genius. .Also, it's easier to dream of the shared and lived experience of Wenger, Arteta and Edu.
That Wenger was fired does not mean he's rubbish. And that Arteta wants him back in some capacity doesn't mean he's thinking like your unconscionably-driven politicians we have here. They are not cut from the same cloth.
For FIFA to approach and offer Wenger the role of Head of Global Football Development speaks volumes of his deep understanding of the game, his integrity and his pull as a manager and follower of the game.
You sent this post without much thought about these things.
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by Chinny024(f): 5:16pm On Nov 25, 2021
Confusion everywhere.

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Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by ComeToJesus: 5:30pm On Nov 25, 2021
SecretReporter:
My friend, go and buy quality player's joor

No mind that Mr Bean called Arteta
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by ComeToJesus: 5:32pm On Nov 25, 2021
Cantonese:


And you think championships are won by power or having the best players and teams? If it were so why then did “common” Leicester city win the league that year with unknown names?

Your Mourinho who termed Wenger a specialist in failure, how far has he gone in the last few years? On two of occasions he has been sacked. Aside from the cups that he won, what other meaningful contribution has he made to the game?

To who honor is due please give it to him. The truth still remains that Wenger transformed football both in England and the rest of the world. What he missed by cups amassed, he won by his contributions to the development of football.
Brilliant analysis.
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by ComeToJesus: 5:33pm On Nov 25, 2021
Cantonese:


And you think championships are won by power or having the best players and teams? If it were so why then did “common” Leicester city win the league that year with unknown names?

Your Mourinho who termed Wenger a specialist in failure, how far has he gone in the last few years? On two of occasions he has been sacked. Aside from the cups that he won, what other meaningful contribution has he made to the game?

To who honor is due please give it to him. The truth still remains that Wenger transformed football both in England and the rest of the world. What he missed by cups amassed, he won by his contributions to the development of football.
Brilliant analysis
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by Truvelisback(m): 5:43pm On Nov 25, 2021
He wants Assing wenger to guide him.
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by Truvelisback(m): 5:44pm On Nov 25, 2021
MadamVanessa:
shocked
So, u self dey watch ball? grin
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by NobleSeed(m): 6:22pm On Nov 25, 2021
to fight klopp grin grin
naijakissleave:
To do what again exactly?
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by tafat: 7:19pm On Nov 25, 2021
I don't get, you want to bring back the poor man from his retirement? Allow him to rest now.
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by knowhowk: 7:25pm On Nov 25, 2021
Interesting !
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by Beedude(m): 9:04pm On Nov 25, 2021
Cantonese:


And you think championships are won by power or having the best players and teams? If it were so why then did “common” Leicester city win the league that year with unknown names?

Your Mourinho who termed Wenger a specialist in failure, how far has he gone in the last few years? On two of occasions he has been sacked. Aside from the cups that he won, what other meaningful contribution has he made to the game?

To who honor is due please give it to him. The truth still remains that Wenger transformed football both in England and the rest of the world. What he missed by cups amassed, he won by his contributions to the development of football.
Before u compare Jose Mourinho to Wenger, Just check the number of titles they both won. From Porto 2004 to Man utd 2017 or so which is not up to 19yrs kindly compare what Jose won with the whole of Wengers coaching career.

I know Gunners fans wont accept this but if Wenger is your greatest coach in history, it shows the club is a mediocre one cos in a normal club they would have sacked Wenger like 8 times witin that 22 years
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by Beedude(m): 9:05pm On Nov 25, 2021
Truvelisback:
He wants Assing wenger to guide him.
Same Wenger wey no fit guide himself grin
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by Cantonese: 11:00pm On Nov 25, 2021
abbey621:


You're joking right, especially at the bolded? Every coach has his or her era, show me a coach that has been dominant for over 2 decades and I'll show you some of his or her flaws. Mourinho's contribution to the game canno
t be diminished, hate or love him please don't ever utter such ridiculous statement again. He brought back defensive strength to England, he provided the blueprint how to defeat tiki-taka and massively overpowered attacking teams, a defensive genius. Yes he's beyond his prime now but do not ever compare a local champion like Wenger to Mourinho, they are not mates. You can try to to justify his inferior trophy count by saying he changed the game but the truth is simple, the greatest of coaches are known for winning, 2 decades in the Champions League and he only managed one final yet you disparage someone that won it with Porto of all teams, let's not even talk about Inter.....Guy don't get me angry grin grin grin

I expected that response from you. Mourinho won this, Mourinho won that, etc. The question remains: looking at football holistically, who has impacted more?

The truth remains that Wenger revolutionized football in England and by effect the rest of the world. He came as an unknown person from an unknown Nagoya Grumpus in Japan and took English football by storm. The fact remains that he did not win many trophies, looking at his tenure with Arsenal, but in all, every team in England and the rest of the world followed his football philosophy.

He changed their diet, he changed their training methods, he changed the pattern of soccer from the boring defensive form of play to an attacking form, that gave fans like you and I value for our money. I can go on and on. He encouraged youth, bought wisely and spent wisely. His impact on English football paved the way for the employment of non English coaches in England, including Mourinho. He may not have won in Europe or with different teams like Mourinho, but that does not in anyway take away his impact. To whom honor is due, please do not fail to honor.

Mourinho won several championships truthfully. But ask yourself what value he has so far added to football, except for introducing the boring defensive pattern of soccer that finally became his nemesis. Infact at certain times his players revolted against him. He once admitted that he was considering changing his pattern to a more attacking one. Is he not the one who removed our famous Mikel from an attacking midfield role to a defensive midfield role? Since he did that, did you closely take a look at Mikel’s career.

“Every coach has his or her era, show me a coach that has been dominant for over 2 decades and I'll show you some of his or her flaws”. What about Sir Alex Ferguson?

Every good coach worldwide, including Mourinho admitted that Wenger revolutionized football. That’s what I am letting to know.
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by abbey621(m): 3:56am On Nov 26, 2021
Cantonese:


I expected that response from you. Mourinho won this, Mourinho won that, etc. The question remains: looking at football holistically, who has impacted more?

The truth remains that Wenger revolutionized football in England and by effect the rest of the world. He came as an unknown person from an unknown Nagoya Grumpus in Japan and took English football by storm. The fact remains that he did not win many trophies, looking at his tenure with Arsenal,[s] but in all, every team in England and the rest of the world followed his football philosophy.[/s]

He changed their diet, he changed their training methods, he changed the pattern of soccer from the boring defensive form of play to an attacking form, that gave fans like you and I value for our money. I can go on and on. He encouraged youth, bought wisely and spent wisely. [s]His impact on English football paved the way for the employment of non English coaches in England, including Mourinho.[/s] He may not have won in Europe or with different teams like Mourinho, but that does not in anyway take away his impact. To whom honor is due, please do not fail to honor.

[s]Mourinho won several championships truthfully. But ask yourself what value he has so far added to football, except for introducing the boring defensive pattern of soccer that finally became his nemesis.[/s] Infact at certain times his players revolted against him. He once admitted that he was considering changing his pattern to a more attacking one. Is he not the one who removed our famous Mikel from an attacking midfield role to a defensive midfield role? Since he did that, did you closely take a look at Mikel’s career.

“Every coach has his or her era, show me a coach that has been dominant for over 2 decades and I'll show you some of his or her flaws”. What about Sir Alex Ferguson?

Every good coach worldwide, including Mourinho admitted that Wenger revolutionized football. That’s what I am letting to know.

Pure hogwash, every one of your point is highly contextual and pure sentiments, again I repeat, the greatest of coaches are known for winning trophies. As a person that likes attacking, I can't fault you for praising Wenger, same way you can't fault someone that likes a well solid defensive playstyle, football has evolved beyond just attacking. My gripe was never with Wenger but with you diminishing Mourinho's achievements, you could have hailed Wenger without dragging Mourinho down. You mentioned Ferguson which is good but even Fergie was not completely dominant for 2 decades, Mourinho made sure of that.
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by Cantonese: 6:11am On Nov 26, 2021
abbey621:


Pure hogwash, every one of your point is highly contextual and pure sentiments, again I repeat, the greatest of coaches are known for winning trophies. As a person that likes attacking, I can't fault you for praising Wenger, same way you can't fault someone that likes a well solid defensive playstyle, football has evolved beyond just attacking. My gripe was never with Wenger but with you diminishing Mourinho's achievements, you could have hailed Wenger without dragging Mourinho down. You mentioned Ferguson which is good but even Fergie was not completely dominant for 2 decades, Mourinho made sure of that.


My points are not sentimental in anyway, except to choose on your own to look at it that way. Wenger’s achievements are not hidden and you can check whenever you want.

“football has evolved beyond just attacking”. NO! Football went beyond just defending long ago, the English just played defensively until Wenger arrived and changed it all. Do not forget “Samba” in Brazil is which made the game so beautiful and enjoyable.
I have not dragged Mourinho down, but simply opened your eyes to the reality of the great gap between the two men, irrespective of Mourinho’s cup successes.

Mourinho made sure Ferguson was not completely dominant for two decades? No. Mourinho only brought his “park the bus” style of play to remove the beauty in the game and many matches were very boring and frustrating.
Re: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by abbey621(m): 6:32am On Nov 26, 2021
Cantonese:



My points are not sentimental in anyway, except to choose on your own to look at it that way. Wenger’s achievements are not hidden and you can check whenever you want.

“football has evolved beyond just attacking”. NO! Football went beyond just defending long ago, the English just played defensively until Wenger arrived and changed it all. Do not forget “Samba” in Brazil is which made the game so beautiful and enjoyable.
I have not dragged Mourinho down, but simply opened your eyes to the reality of the great gap between the two men, irrespective of Mourinho’s cup successes.

Mourinho made sure Ferguson was not completely dominant for two decades? No. Mourinho only brought his “park the bus” style of play to remove the beauty in the game and many matches were very boring and frustrating.

Again gibberish......Data simply does not support your sentiments, if you're not winning trophies you're not doing anything as a coach, go and ask Pochettino! How many times has Brazil won the world cup since 2000? If defensive football is not crucial then shouldn't the attacking teams be dominant? All the Samba could not help them to outshine the German and Italian machines. Like I said you've made no factual statement just sentiments because you like attacking free flowing football. You keep mixing up enjoyable with successful. You can play all the tiki taka you want but if you're not winning trophies then you're just entertainment. Gap between Wenger and Mourinho?.....Joker, irrespective of cup success? A coach that can't win trophies that one na coach? Siuuuuu grin grin grin

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