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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by 111sunshine: 5:38am On Nov 30, 2021
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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by blackpanda: 5:41am On Nov 30, 2021
jaxxy:
I think there should be extensive consultation on this bill and more specifically this particular section. The selfishness might not be from the governors only like we are made to think. Party members can also be selfish.

Selfish in what way How is voting directly selfish?
Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by PrinceOfLagos: 5:47am On Nov 30, 2021
Tinubu don go soon clear grin

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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by cardoctor(m): 6:01am On Nov 30, 2021
The rigging machine needs upgrading.
Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by Nobody: 6:04am On Nov 30, 2021
Validated:
No need to spend billions on irrelevant processes. The biggest and stable democracies do not waste such a humungous amount on direct primaries that would end up creating confusion with fictitious results like that of Anambra APC.

Here are some reasons to jettison the idea of direct primaries:
i. It is based on an open ballot system. If the open ballot is acceptable at party primaries, why is it not acceptable in the election proper?
Direct primaries don't necessarily need to be open ballot system, except the national assembly included this clause. The main issue is that an election must take place for all members to vote instead of imposing candidates via indirect and general consensus routes. If there is open ballot system there compulsorily, the president can ammend it. But if you still.maintsin your stand, kindly provide a concrete evidence. So, stop spreading falsified info.


ii. Cost would be prohibitive and the process would be cumbersome. There are 774 LGAs, so for every LGA election, the electoral bodies at the state level would first conduct primaries for all political parties at the council and chairmanship level. Then INEC will conduct primaries for all state assembly candidates for all parties at state level, then conduct for NASS for all parties and governorship for all parties. This is absolute nonsense.
Is the cost on your head? Is the cost from tax payers money? Politicians have money to bribe voters, so let them pump money into direct. Using the cost as an excuse is a useless one. They can afford it since the cost of bribing during elections is the highest. The o ly cost involved from INEC is monitoring it. That's all. So, stop spreading falsified info.


iii, Duplication of efforts, as parties primaries would amount to INEC conducting elections before elections.
Is the duplication not good? So you can know the true state of things before going to the real election. This will prevent parties from huge manipulations. For instance look at Anambra state that gave their candidate over 200,000 votes which didnt not exist. But going to the main election, he scored not even half of it. Lol. That shows that they manipulated the result. Where are the 200,000 votes in the main election?


iv. Resources needed would be too much to make any meaning. INEC does not have such resources
Is is better to spend too much to get an election right than to spend little and looting takes place. . What we lose out to looting is far more than the extra we are spending for direct primaries. Sitz what's your problem?


v. All political parties would now need to amend their constitutions to reflect the requirements of the electoral act, which is nonsense. Political parties are private "vehicles' for seeking political offices, if the electoral laws do not govern how their structures and organs are constituted, why govern how they pick their candidates?
Political parties always amend their constitutions from time to time. So what's the big deal here? Do you know the number of times APC and PDap have both amended theirs voluntarily? This is the most useless excuse here. You are begin g to irritate me. I think you are a paid agent to move us backward. Yet you will be the one who will suffer it. Keep allow them use you.

vi. Multiplicity of membership, how do INEC and the parties control list of membership? Meaning a political party could influence candidates for the opposing party by proxy membership. That is one person could hold both APC as well as PDP membership. All a smart politician would do is to create proxy membership of the opposition and use his proxies to vote for a weak person in the opposition.
They will use tech. The way advanced nations do it, we will do it. We dont have to stay wirh you in the dark cos of your greediness. How do they do it in the western world? Rhe issue of multiple parties is rubbish. That's an internal problem of the parties. Are you saying they dont know who is in there parties? What kind of excuse is that? Sorry, no one can hold both parties card with direct. Ha ba! Very isles reasoning. They are not correlated in any way..



Please, Mr. President should ask NASS to delete the direct primaries insertion and sign a sustainable electoral law. The direct primaries' insertion is myopic and self-serving!

Relax, the president has sent words to iNEC for a better counsel. The right thing will be done. They just using you. I'm sure you dont even understand this garbage you posted here. They gave you as an agent to post it everywhere. You are just a tool in their hands. People like you must be chained down. And we will chain you. If you refused to be chained, we will gun you down with good laws. Period.

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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by saintnegroid(m): 6:18am On Nov 30, 2021
Coly2012:
Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari writes INEC, seeks advice on direct primaries, others

https://punchng.com/electoral-act-amendments-buhari-writes-inec-seeks-advice-on-direct-primaries-others/?amp
Did he write the letter? Did he even read the content of the letter they wrote in his stead? Why do this people keep deceiving us? They should have said the presidency
Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by Sonyboom765: 6:21am On Nov 30, 2021
Both favours Tinubu any how you look at it. He is already packaging rice n beans for the populace which is the normal payment for vote across Nigeria (direct primary ) victory sealed n delivered.

For indirect dem no born 30 trillion Buhari make he no support Tinubu or Tinubu solely chosen candidate which I believe is the only concession that can be given to Buhari out of respect for whatever reason or excuse he might tendered not to support Tinubu.

The entire SW delegate from A-Z is locked for Tinubu no matter who the competition is in APC. It is now left for him to play his card well across other regions in Nigeria.


athaboi:
As if he have not taken decision about it....baba is just trying to save face! If he really want tinubu to succeed him, he will chose the one that will simply favour him

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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by Validated: 6:32am On Nov 30, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

Direct primaries don't necessarily need to be open ballot system, except the national assembly included this clause. The main issue is that an election must take place for all members to vote instead of imposing candidates via indirect and general consensus routes. If there is open ballot system there compulsorily, the president can ammend it. But if you still.maintsin your stand, kindly provide a concrete evidence. So, stop spreading falsified info.


Is the cost on your head? Is the cost from tax payers money? Politicians have money to bribe voters, so let them pump money into direct. Using the cost as an excuse is a useless one. They can afford it since the cost of bribing during elections is the highest. The o ly cost involved from INEC is monitoring it. That's all. So, stop spreading falsified info.


Is the duplication not good? So you can know the true state of things before going to the real election. This will prevent parties from huge manipulations. For instance look at Anambra state that gave their candidate over 200,000 votes which didnt not exist. But going to the main election, he scored not even half of it. Lol. That shows that they manipulated the result. Where are the 200,000 votes in the main election?


Is is better to spend too much to get an election right than to spend little and looting takes place. . What we lose out to looting is far more than the extra we are spending for direct primaries. Sitz what's your problem?


Political parties always amend their constitutions from time to time. So what's the big deal here? Do you know the number of times APC and PDap have both amended theirs voluntarily? This is the most useless excuse here. You are begin g to irritate me. I think you are a paid agent to move us backward. Yet you will be the one who will suffer it. Keep allow them use you.

They will use tech. The way advanced nations do it, we will do it. We dont have to stay wirh you in the dark cos of your greediness. How do they do it in the western world? Rhe issue of multiple parties is rubbish. That's an internal problem of the parties. Are you saying they dont know who is in there parties? What kind of excuse is that? Sorry, no one can hold both parties card with direct. Ha ba! Very isles reasoning. They are not correlated in any way..



Relax, the president has sent words to iNEC for a better counsel. The right thing will be done. They just using you. I'm sure you dont even understand this garbage you posted here. They gave you as an agent to post it everywhere. You are just a tool in their hands. People like you must be chained down. And we will chain you. If you refused to be chained, we will gun you down with good laws. Period.
You lack common education and so your comprehension is below par. No point wasting time with you or even expaining to you. Low IQ is your problem. Reading your raves tells me you did not even cross high school, so your reasoning is mediocre.
Please, get someone that is educated up to degree level to explain each point to you because, clearly your comprehension is too shallow. Just so you know, INEC already said they were not consulted before NASS leadership inserted the direct primaries clause, in the ekectoral amendment bill.
Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by BluntCrazeMan: 6:33am On Nov 30, 2021
So, na only Direct Primaries Be the Wahalla Now??
..
Well..
We all know that Direct Primaries will be very costly.
And stressful..
And it will involve a lot of work.
..YES.
But if it is done well without rigging, it will definitely be one of the best things to happen to democracy in Nigeria

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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by PointZerom: 6:46am On Nov 30, 2021
sukar886:
The truth is buhari is handing over to goodluck Jonathan on 2023, cos he has only one tenure left, after that, the north will continue ....

That's the game and if the south disagree that they still have more 4yrs to complete theirs, the North will refer them to Yaradua and GEJ situation.
Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by Hakeem3(m): 6:50am On Nov 30, 2021
Coly2012:
Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari writes INEC, seeks advice on direct primaries, others

https://punchng.com/electoral-act-amendments-buhari-writes-inec-seeks-advice-on-direct-primaries-others/?amp

As long as he’s going to seek Malami and his other brainless goon’s consent, He will not sign it..
Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by Ekpekus(m): 6:58am On Nov 30, 2021
Oga sign this thing joor... angry

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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by Martins9756: 7:10am On Nov 30, 2021
Validated:
No need to spend billions on irrelevant processes. The biggest and stable democracies do not waste such a humungous amount on direct primaries that would end up creating confusion with fictitious results like that of Anambra APC.

Here are some reasons to jettison the idea of direct primaries:
i. It is based on an open ballot system. If the open ballot is acceptable at party primaries, why is it not acceptable in the election proper?

ii. Cost would be prohibitive and the process would be cumbersome. There are 774 LGAs, so for every LGA election, the electoral bodies at the state level would first conduct primaries for all political parties at the council and chairmanship level. Then INEC will conduct primaries for all state assembly candidates for all parties at state level, then conduct for NASS for all parties and governorship for all parties. This is absolute nonsense.

iii, Duplication of efforts, as parties primaries would amount to INEC conducting elections before elections.

iv. Resources needed would be too much to make any meaning. INEC does not have such resources

v. All political parties would now need to amend their constitutions to reflect the requirements of the electoral act, which is nonsense. Political parties are private "vehicles' for seeking political offices, if the electoral laws do not govern how their structures and organs are constituted, why govern how they pick their candidates?

vi. Multiplicity of membership, how do INEC and the parties control list of membership? Meaning a political party could influence candidates for the opposing party by proxy membership. That is one person could hold both APC as well as PDP membership. All a smart politician would do is to create proxy membership of the opposition and use his proxies to vote for a weak person in the opposition.

Please, Mr. President should ask NASS to delete the direct primaries insertion and sign a sustainable electoral law. The direct primaries' insertion is myopic and self-serving!

you're talking nonsense, because you want the fraudulent people to continued to rule us, if Nigeria spent a whole budget to give us credible election and we have the right candidate with good character in the affairs of our dear nation, nothing wrong about that, but if we allow few people to decide who get the political power and position, we will continued to remains where we are, direct primary is the best if we truly want to get ride of all this bad politician

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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by Indispensable85(m): 7:12am On Nov 30, 2021
Our own direct primary na scam. Cooking up figures and outright rigging. Naijaaaa.....

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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by Creamz(m): 7:20am On Nov 30, 2021
This is a good bill. I believe the only good thing to have come out of this Ahmed Lawan Lead National Assembly. Direct primaries are need for the ordinary party member to choose who he wants to see in various political offices. We the youth should make sure we join political parties as that's where we can bring about real change. Especially after this bill is signed into law

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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by dailytells: 7:21am On Nov 30, 2021
Breaking: APC Splits Into Faction attacks Buhari Sacks Buni, Appoints Audu as Chairman

The All Progressives Congress (APC) has finally split into factions as one of the factions has sacked Mai Mala Buni and appoints Mustapha Audu as the Chairman of the Party.

The faction has also attacked President Buhari over his poor leadership over the party.

It would be recalled that Yobe State Governor, Mr. Buni was appointed as Chairman, APC Caretaker/Extraordinary National Convention Planning Committee (CECPC). Some aggrieved members went to court to opposed his appointment citing the 1999 constitution that prohibited a governor to hold any other office.

A unit within the party, known as Progressive Youth Movement, announced the replacement of the APC Caretaker committee Chairman.

The group named Mustapha Audu as National Caretaker Committee Chairman with immediate effect.

Audu said a National Reconciliation Committee will be formed to reconcile aggrieved members before the February 26, 2021 convention.

He further announced a zoning formula for Positions in the new National Working Committee (NWC).

As at the time as filing this report the APC national secretariat was under a tight security.

https://dailytells.com.ng/breaking-apc-splits-into-faction-attacks-buhari-sacks-buni-appoints-audu-as-chairman/
Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by newinventions: 7:38am On Nov 30, 2021
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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by Gambs: 7:45am On Nov 30, 2021
Lol,sign or not,the National Assembly will use its VETO power... Recognizing it as a law will be deepened our democracy and moreover the will need to protect their personal interest from govs who determine flag bearers at all levels and candidates who succeeds them from office..

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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by MPESA(m): 8:01am On Nov 30, 2021
Sonyboom765:
Both favours Tinubu any how you look at it. He is already packaging rice n beans for the populace which is the normal payment for vote across Nigeria (direct primary ) victory sealed n delivered.

For indirect dem no born 30 trillion Buhari make he no support Tinubu or Tinubu solely chosen candidate which I believe is the only concession that can be given to Buhari out of respect for whatever reason or excuse he might tendered not to support Tinubu.

The entire SW delegate from A-Z is locked for Tinubu no matter who the competition is in APC. It is now left for him to play his card well across other regions in Nigeria.

And Governor Fayemi is also part of SW delegate that has locked for Tinubu.



Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by luizpippo(m): 8:05am On Nov 30, 2021
Validated:
No need to spend billions on irrelevant processes. The biggest and stable democracies do not waste such a humungous amount on direct primaries that would end up creating confusion with fictitious results like that of Anambra APC.

Here are some reasons to jettison the idea of direct primaries:
i. It is based on an open ballot system. If the open ballot is acceptable at party primaries, why is it not acceptable in the election proper?

ii. Cost would be prohibitive and the process would be cumbersome. There are 774 LGAs, so for every LGA election, the electoral bodies at the state level would first conduct primaries for all political parties at the council and chairmanship level. Then INEC will conduct primaries for all state assembly candidates for all parties at state level, then conduct for NASS for all parties and governorship for all parties. This is absolute nonsense.

iii, Duplication of efforts, as parties primaries would amount to INEC conducting elections before elections.

iv. Resources needed would be too much to make any meaning. INEC does not have such resources

v. All political parties would now need to amend their constitutions to reflect the requirements of the electoral act, which is nonsense. Political parties are private "vehicles' for seeking political offices, if the electoral laws do not govern how their structures and organs are constituted, why govern how they pick their candidates?

vi. Multiplicity of membership, how do INEC and the parties control list of membership? Meaning a political party could influence candidates for the opposing party by proxy membership. That is one person could hold both APC as well as PDP membership. All a smart politician would do is to create proxy membership of the opposition and use his proxies to vote for a weak person in the opposition.

Please, Mr. President should ask NASS to delete the direct primaries insertion and sign a sustainable electoral law. The direct primaries' insertion is myopic and self-serving!


It is not the INEC that conduct primaries, INEC representatives are only supposed to be there to witness the primaries not conduct it, Mr itk.

The primaries is supposed to be for registered members, not all comers, or what was the use of the membership registration APC and PDP were bragging about?

After all, the president you are advising got his 2019 ticket via the direct primaries cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy


Well, we await more clownery from him.

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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by luizpippo(m): 8:14am On Nov 30, 2021
How the signing of the electoral act amendment became a Tinubu bill is a wonderful to even Aristotle or Socrates.

I want to believe only Confucious can make a meaning out of this.

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Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by KaluwisxPRO: 8:58am On Nov 30, 2021
Validated:
No need to spend billions on irrelevant processes. The biggest and stable democracies do not waste such a humungous amount on direct primaries that would end up creating confusion with fictitious results like that of Anambra APC.

Here are some reasons to jettison the idea of direct primaries:
i. It is based on an open ballot system. If the open ballot is acceptable at party primaries, why is it not acceptable in the election proper?

ii. Cost would be prohibitive and the process would be cumbersome. There are 774 LGAs, so for every LGA election, the electoral bodies at the state level would first conduct primaries for all political parties at the council and chairmanship level. Then INEC will conduct primaries for all state assembly candidates for all parties at state level, then conduct for NASS for all parties and governorship for all parties. This is absolute nonsense.

iii, Duplication of efforts, as parties primaries would amount to INEC conducting elections before elections.

iv. Resources needed would be too much to make any meaning. INEC does not have such resources

v. All political parties would now need to amend their constitutions to reflect the requirements of the electoral act, which is nonsense. Political parties are private "vehicles' for seeking political offices, if the electoral laws do not govern how their structures and organs are constituted, why govern how they pick their candidates?

vi. Multiplicity of membership, how do INEC and the parties control list of membership? Meaning a political party could influence candidates for the opposing party by proxy membership. That is one person could hold both APC as well as PDP membership. All a smart politician would do is to create proxy membership of the opposition and use his proxies to vote for a weak person in the opposition.

Please, Mr. President should ask NASS to delete the direct primaries insertion and sign a sustainable electoral law. The direct primaries' insertion is myopic and self-serving!


Which biggest of democracy? Have you witnessed the US primaries? It requires more efforts, donations from party members than the actual elections.
So stop f00ling yourself in public.

If electing the right people is via direct primary is going to be more expensive than the general elections, I think it is best for Nigeria. We already spend more than triple of whatever INEC budget is on subsidy, yet still suffering.
Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by adekolaelect(m): 9:09am On Nov 30, 2021
Noshitboi:
He will not tow any path that will favour Tinubu. You just can't stay in Lagos and decide how APC should run their matters grin grin
Oga everything is not abt Tinubu there is a country before him and there will be country after him .use your sense do t commit suicide if the bill is sign in to law. Signing of the law will not sure Tinubu presidency but whoever is popular and if he is the one that win the popularity .what is your problem with that? If all the hate resulted to your health you will forget who is Tinubu In the hospital Bed.

Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by Bimpe29: 9:16am On Nov 30, 2021
Is seeking advice from the electoral umpire necessary?
Re: Electoral Act Amendments: Buhari Writes INEC, Seeks Advice On Direct Primaries, by jaxxy(m): 9:35am On Nov 30, 2021
blackpanda:


Selfish in what way How is voting directly selfish?

Who stands to benefit from direct primaries? undecided

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