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Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by Blue3k(m): 7:22pm On Dec 12, 2021
SPEAKER of Borno State House of Assembly,Hon. Abdulkarim Lawan, has explained that state assemblies don’t override governors’ vetoes on bills because legislators don’t want fight with state governors.

He, however,expressed frustration over inability of state governors to assent to private bills passed by the legislature, asking stakeholders to begin to engage the state chief executives for change of attitudes to that effect.

The legislator spoke, in Abuja,at a retreat for members of Borno State House of Assembly on Violence Against Persons Prohibition,VAPP,bill in Abuja,organised by a civil society organisation, Women Advocates Research and Documentation Centre,WARDC and funded by the United Nations and the Embassy of Netherlands.

He promised that the Borno House of Assembly would critically debate the bill and ensure its quick passage even as he appealed to stakeholders to prevail on governors to assent to the bill when passed by lawmakers.

Hear him: “When you pass a private bill such as this, governors would not likely give assent to the bill. This is the complaint we always receive from our colleagues in other states.

“For instance, the current assembly in Borno has passed about 25 bills, 20 are executive bills while five are private bills. But, only the 20 executive bills have been assented by the governor even as he promised to assent to the remaining five. We also have problems vetoing bills in order to avoid fracas with the executives.”


Source: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/01/why-state-assemblies-dont-override-governors-vetoes-on-billsby-borno-house-speaker/amp/

Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by helinues: 7:27pm On Dec 12, 2021
It's because they are under the cover of the governor.

State assemblies are not independent just like the Local government

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by Blue3k(m): 7:28pm On Dec 12, 2021
Its honestly amazing how these guys shamelessly admit to being the governors glorified errand boys. These clowns just know how to spit grammar, collect cars and checks at the end of the month. Its not the governors job to assent to every bill presented to before him if you guys feel its important you can't shy away from conflict since its part of the job.

Lets look at Cross River governor proclaiming he won't sign grazing bill. If the state assembly cared they could override any veto with a 2/3 major. These sort have bills have been popular but they wait on executives to write the bill while they sit around doing who knows what.

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by Blue3k(m): 7:38pm On Dec 12, 2021
helinues:
It's because they are under the cover of the governor.

State assemblies are not independent just like the Local government

They are independent that excuse has been dead for the past two years. Buhari strengthened protection for them since the mumus wouldn't act on their own to solve their issue. If they want to pass any law they would have done so after the financial autonomy was futher guaranteed. If the governor violates simply remove them.

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by helinues: 7:42pm On Dec 12, 2021
Blue3k:


They are independent that excuse has been dead for the past two years. Buhari strengthened protection for them since the mumus wouldn't act on their own to solve the issue. If they want to pass any law they would have done so after the financial autonomy was guaranteed. If the governor violates simply remove them.

Are senate and Reps independent currently?

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by Blue3k(m): 7:46pm On Dec 12, 2021
helinues:


Are senate and Reps independent currently?

Yes they are stop making excuses for foolishness. They have overid a veto before to pass NDDC and other bills.

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by helinues: 7:49pm On Dec 12, 2021
Blue3k:


Yes they are stop making excuses for foolishness. They have overid a veto before to pass NDDC and other bills.

And they have been rubber stamping all those unnecessary loans as they are independent right?

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by Blue3k(m): 7:57pm On Dec 12, 2021
helinues:


And they have been rubber stamping all those unnecessary loans as they are independent right?

Yes they did so out of their free will. Just because you don't agree with their actions doesn't mean its coercived. Do you have anymore redundant questions?

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by helinues: 7:58pm On Dec 12, 2021
Blue3k:


Yes they did so out of their free will. Just because you don't agree with their actions doesn't mean its coercived. Do you have anymore redundant questions?

Imagine question...

Wakaing jare
Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by Blue3k(m): 8:00pm On Dec 12, 2021
helinues:


Imagine question...

Wakaing jare

You asked the same question multiple times like you couldn't understand. You could just state your disagreement if any.

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by LordofNaija: 5:37am On Dec 13, 2021
House of Assembly members are just 'Hallelujah boys' to the governor. All governors that have being impeachmed since 1999 had external influence from Abuja. Last year I met the speaker of a certain southern state doing domestic chores at the private home of a certain governor. We have a long way to go

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by money121(m): 5:39am On Dec 13, 2021
Yimu
Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by greenie77: 5:42am On Dec 13, 2021
Errand boys.
Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by Crusadee: 5:45am On Dec 13, 2021
That's why governors will go to any extent to make sure that state assemblies have no autonomy, 8th National assembly gave them a full autonomy but unfortunately the laws provides that 2/3 of the state assemblies must passed their own autonomy but state governors pump them money in Ghana must goes to the make sure that they don't sign their own autonomy and unfortunately they couldn't make up to 2/3 that sing up their own autonomy, that's why gov keep cashing out large nothing anyone can do.

Wetin concern us since no government in Nigeria

Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by Caseless: 6:02am On Dec 13, 2021
angry

This is the reason I even don't think the states should have state electoral bodies conducting LGs elections. The governors abuse everything.

Just imagine what would happen if they have state police.

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by wordcat(m): 6:05am On Dec 13, 2021
What makes these people silly once they entered government position is what I don't know.

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by adioolayi(m): 6:50am On Dec 13, 2021
It's simply lack of financial autonomy for the state legislatures...

The lawmakers fear the seizure of their salary and allowances by state governors more than anything grin grin grin

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by Blue3k(m): 7:29am On Dec 13, 2021
Crusadee:
That's why governors will go to any extent to make sure that state assemblies have no autonomy, 8th National assembly gave them a full autonomy but unfortunately the laws provides that 2/3 of the state assemblies must passed their own autonomy but state governors pump them money in Ghana must goes to the make sure that they don't sign their own autonomy and unfortunately they couldn't make up to 2/3 that sing up their own autonomy, that's why gov keep cashing out large nothing anyone can do.

Wetin concern us since no government in Nigeria

Lol ghana must go bags for benefits you can legislate to yourself. These leaches little just call the money unlike other people in the private sector who actually have to provide a service for society. I don't know how anyone could be so stupid but Nigeria is something else.

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by Nobody: 9:38am On Dec 13, 2021
Blue3k:


You asked the same question multiple times like you couldn't understand. You could just state your disagreement if any.
I blame a lot of mushroom parties we have in Nigeria for this. There is no better or serious alternative to APC and PDP.

You won't know some parties are existing till election is close


Caseless:
angry

This is the reason I even don't think the states should have state electoral bodies conducting LGs elections. The governors abuse everything.

Just imagine what would happen if they have state police.

I agree with you on this, INEC should be the ones conducting LG election.


Crusadee:
That's why governors will go to any extent to make sure that state assemblies have no autonomy, 8th National assembly gave them a full autonomy but unfortunately the laws provides that 2/3 of the state assemblies must passed their own autonomy but state governors pump them money in Ghana must goes to the make sure that they don't sign their own autonomy and unfortunately they couldn't make up to 2/3 that sing up their own autonomy, that's why gov keep cashing out large nothing anyone can do.

Wetin concern us since no government in Nigeria

This country is so Bleep up.

I blame all this mushroom parties around sha. They are not doing enough to take power from the APC and PDP

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by Blue3k(m): 7:21pm On Dec 13, 2021
DubaiLandLord1:
I blame a lot of mushroom parties we have in Nigeria for this. There is no better or serious alternative to APC and PDP.

You won't know some parties are existing till election is close

They should be more strategic about the post they run for. There's nothing wrong with starting local and building coalitions with people ideologically similar.

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by BluntCrazeMan: 12:10pm On Dec 16, 2021
helinues:


And they have been rubber stamping all those unnecessary loans as they are independent right?
This is where the corruption in high places comes in.
The legislature is supposed to be the watch-dogs on the activities of the executives.
But they have all colluded together and started doing things like Covert-and-share... Loot-together-and-share.. Mutual-interests... Protect-my-back-I-protect-yours.

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by BluntCrazeMan: 12:18pm On Dec 16, 2021
helinues:


Imagine question...

Wakaing jare
There is no Monopoly to asking Redundant Questions You know.
grin grin cheesy
Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by Blue3k(m): 4:03pm On Feb 04, 2022
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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by Blue3k(m): 12:43am On Mar 23
Lol now we know they did not override vetos because they arent interested. Rivers State assembly override vetos multiple times.

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Re: Abdulkarim Lawan: Why State Assemblies Don’t Override Governors’ Vetoes On Bills by blacknp(m): 1:33am On Mar 23
Blue3k:




Source: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/01/why-state-assemblies-dont-override-governors-vetoes-on-billsby-borno-house-speaker/amp/
A very very stupid statement, so anything the Governor wants, You Zombies will assent to it?

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