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The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Joagbaje(m): 7:07am On Jun 14, 2011 |
Genesis 1:16 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Light represents ilumination,knowledge, or truths . There are different kinds of truths in God. Different levels of revelation knowledge . This fact has been the reasons for divisions in christs body to a great extent In the body of christ today .Some Christians have taken these differences to an unhealthy extreme. We have so many division in the line of doctrines. On side believe one thing the other side believe another thing , yet there is one God. Every doctrine seem right to the people of that persuasion. Are we all right , are we all wrong. Who is right ? Who is wrong. My conclusion is this, there are lesser truths and there are greater truths. All are forms of truths. In this thread I would like to discuss the difference between the lesser truths and the greater truths. Romans 14:5-6 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. . . . . To be continued, . . |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by PastorAIO: 9:17am On Jun 14, 2011 |
I ought to wait for your continuation before making my contribution. And by the grace of God I will refrain any form of belligerence. |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Zikkyy(m): 9:36am On Jun 14, 2011 |
I have to say this sound interesting; this lesser & greater truth thing Jo, i hope you will be back |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Nobody: 10:27am On Jun 14, 2011 |
Since Jo has been saying let's(christians) get along no matter the differences, I guess what he'll say is, the greater truths are whatever your church's doctrines are and the lesser truths are other church's doctrines. This way, no one is wrong and everybody is right to some varying degrees. IMO he's probably right becase every christian can back up whatever he or she says with the holy book. |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Zikkyy(m): 10:39am On Jun 14, 2011 |
Martian: If Jo adopts this approach then there would be no need for this thread i think Jo is 'cooking' up something quite different i hope he will be back when he's done with the 'cooking' Jo, i want my truth well 'done' please |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Nobody: 11:22am On Jun 14, 2011 |
Zikkyy: Well, I hope he doesn't serve you with "medium rare" truth tainted with E Coli. I wouldn't want you to have |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Zikkyy(m): 11:52am On Jun 14, 2011 |
Martian: That's not my 'portion' i do expect some garnishing/spice from the ROR though |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by InesQor(m): 4:29pm On Jun 14, 2011 |
Once upon a time there lived a wise man by the name of Mamad. He never lied. All the people in the land, even the ones who lived twenty days away, knew about him. |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by aletheia(m): 4:44pm On Jun 14, 2011 |
. . .nothing new from the OP. Another spin on "revelation". I suppose this thread will probably die a quick and painless death, since Jo is going to shy away from further posting. |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Zikkyy(m): 4:50pm On Jun 14, 2011 |
aletheia: i would have prefered it very slow and painnnful |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by regged4u: 5:04pm On Jun 14, 2011 |
Pastor AIO: Martian: Zikkyy: Martian: Zikkyy: I hope you guys will allow us enjoy and follow this thread and receive what it carries… I don’t want to believe someone will turn this thread into a fighting cord. Hmmm, I hop so oh…. |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by nuclearboy(m): 5:48pm On Jun 14, 2011 |
Ha, Finally! Maybe I'm finally about to learn why I have so many problems with some "revelations" and "knowledges". I too will refrain from belligerence |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Nobody: 10:36am On Jun 15, 2011 |
Curious minds are still waiting to read about the "greater truths" and the "lesser truths". Joagbaje don't abandon your thread like this!!!!! I want to know the difference between a lie and a "lesser truth" too. |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Enigma(m): 2:52pm On Jun 20, 2011 |
aletheia: My goodness! Has this prophecy already come true so quickly? (The thread was essentially dead though I suppose this post is now keeping it on life support!) |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by nuclearboy(m): 2:58pm On Jun 20, 2011 |
@Enigma Are you saying "god" needs life support from you? Seriously though, what could be more pathetic than a mix of deceit, shallowness AND cowardice? |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Enigma(m): 3:01pm On Jun 20, 2011 |
;d ;d |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by KunleOshob(m): 3:20pm On Jun 20, 2011 |
Not suprised joagbaje abandoned his own thread as he normally does, but at least he should have attempted his usual mumbo jumbo maybe he would have been able to convince some of their customers who now realise that CEC is one big fraud that they are not lying to them, they are just revealing 'lesser truths' to them becos of their baby teeth that can't handle the 'greater truth' |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 7:57pm On Jun 20, 2011 |
whiff of Freemasonry to me, but hey. let's give Jo the benefit of the doubt It is a curry 'n pepper topic really |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Image123(m): 8:51pm On Jun 20, 2011 |
@all i'm thinking Jo meant to say that the thread was "to be continued by my pests". |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by PastorAIO: 9:10pm On Jun 20, 2011 |
Like God sent pestilence to pharaoh, he has also sent pestilence to Jo. "Jo, let me people go". gospel of compulsory tithe is captivity. Let them go, jo. |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Joagbaje(m): 10:17pm On Jun 20, 2011 |
KunleOshob: Take it easy, I will soon respond With the remaiming part. Before the end of the year. maybe he would have been able to convince some of their customers who now realise that CEC is one big fraud that they are not lying to them, they are just revealing 'lesser truths' to them becos of their baby teeth that can't handle the 'greater truth' What is this fraud ? People with lesser truths have always call truth fraud. Jesus was a fraud to many people. John 7:12 12 There was a lot of discussion about him among the crowds. Some said, "He's a wonderful man," while others said, "No, he's duping the public." |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Joagbaje(m): 10:18pm On Jun 20, 2011 |
Image123: |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by aletheia(m): 7:06pm On Jun 23, 2011 |
^ aletheia: True to form, you have added nothing of value since your first rather spurious and shallow pontification. This is no surprise since there was really little of substance in your initial thesis. |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Enigma(m): 8:33pm On Jun 23, 2011 |
In Yoruba we say: alailojuti, awodi j'ẹun epe sanra, wọn n'pe l'ole o tun n'gbọmọ ẹran jo. Summary: as he is described so he proves himself to be shamelessly. |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by mabell: 9:28pm On Jun 23, 2011 |
@joagbaje, So can we have examples of both the greater truth and lesser truth It will make your explanation more clearer |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by nuclearboy(m): 10:51pm On Jun 23, 2011 |
mabell: Thank you jare! "sits down with 2B pencil and exercise book" waiting eagerly |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by fyneguy: 3:18am On Jun 24, 2011 |
mabell: Mabel : Examples: 1. Lesser Truth: The sick shall be healed in Jesus name (Yes it is true) but Greater Truth: We WERE healed over 2000 years ago by His stripes. Some Christians say ''I am sick. I pray to receive my healing''. At that level of truth, they are right - God wants our wellbeing. However, there is a greater truth, which is for Christians to now live in divine health, as made available by His stripes. Those in ZION won't say ''I am sick'', 2. Lesser truth: Abraham became the father of many nations. He later had children and today, his seeds are everywhere, in fulfillment of the promise. Greater truth: In Romans 4 v 17: ''(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and[b] calleth those things which be not as though they were[/b]''. Abraham became the father of many nations the moment God called him so!. God changed his name from Abram to Abraham. The evidence was the faith Abraham had in God. This's the spiritual reality! This example applies to Christians today. While one looks out for a physical proof for answered prayers, the other receives and shows faith as the proof. He rolls on the floor, thanking God, even when there is no physical proof. 3. Lesser truth: Jesus was the son of Joseph and Mary. True or False? True!'. if that's all we knew/believed about His parentage, it would discount His value to us. Hey! we know the Greater truth- the Son of God. 4. Let me use a secular scenario as an example: Lesser truth: Goodluck Jonathan is a PhD holder. If this was all we knew about him, then we would only address him as ''Dr Jonathan''. May be he could be of help to us in the academic world. Whereas . . . Bigger truth: Goodluck Jonathan is the President of Nigeria. Need I say more? |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by KunleOshob(m): 8:54am On Jun 24, 2011 |
Lesser truth: Pastor Oyaks is the senior pastor at CEC. Greater truth: Pastor Oyaks is actually a charlatan who specialises in staging fake miracles, fleecing his congregation and teaching all sorts of heresies all with the calculated aim of making merchandize of them. In short the greater truth is that he is a fraudulent business man. |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by nuclearboy(m): 2:40pm On Jun 24, 2011 |
@Kunle Abeg let us hear from the originators |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by mazee: 2:46pm On Jun 24, 2011 |
nuclearboy: with an eraser or rubber too? Or the 2B pencil is one of those with an eraser at the end Clever! or what? |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by nuclearboy(m): 10:46pm On Jun 24, 2011 |
^^ check my profile and past posts and you will know |
Re: The Greater Truths Vs The Lesser Truths. by Joagbaje(m): 11:08pm On Jun 24, 2011 |
@Fyneguy fyneguy: You're really setting the ball rolling. Thanks for breaking it down to a chewable state, I hope it's still soft enough for some people. |
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