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Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by emmanuelbrown26: 8:00am On Mar 06, 2022
highskies:


Get educated before you call someone a dictator.

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US invaded Cuba in 1960s because Soviet wanted to build military bases in Cuba and brought about the Cuba missile crisis.

Cuba is few miles away from US. So why should NATO and US build a military base in Ukraine which has a long border with Russia? Putin is not stupid. As it stands now NATO and US are unable to launch direct attack on Russia because of the distance.

Putin knows if NATO and US enters Ukraine and establish military base there Russia is finish.

Additionally, NATO and US breached the 1990 treaty which prevents NATO and US from expanding eastwards from the then East Germany.

Today NATO and US are almost everywhere in Europe including Croatia, Poland and other places that are closer to Russia.

Getting closer to Russia means NATO and US missiles can directly hit Russia.

Putin is not stupid.

Putin had been complaining ever since when those expansions began. No one listened.

Let's take a closer look at NATO and US activities recently:

1) Killed Ghadaffi of Libya for no reason. Libya conflict was entirely internal. Libya a once peaceful and prosperous country today lies in ruins with no sober government.

2) Killed Sadaam of Iraqi and destroyed that beautiful country; lying that Iraqi had weapons of mass destruction. No such weapons were found. Today Iraqi lies in ruins with no sober government.

3) Went to Syria and nearly overthrew Asaad had it not being for Russia. Syria lies in ruin but Asaad is in tact while that country is now the platform for terrorists. Syria conflict is/was entirely an internal problem.

4) Went to a peaceful Afghanistan after the Russians left. Today Afghanistan is a total mess.

If NATO and US not checked they will wake up any morning and decide to change a government anywhere anytime in this world.

My fear:

NATO and US has started sending military logistics to Ukraine. This is dangerous. It may lead to the justification by Russia that NATO and US wants to enter Ukraine so that it can launch attacks on Russia. And when this happens China, India, Syria, Iraqi etc and the bad boy N. Korea those staunched allies to Russia will support Russia.

N.Korea in fact has started last Saturday by testing a ballistic missiles.

It's like we are on the eve of a THIRD WORLD WAR.

The WAY out:
To me is for NATO and US to respect the treaty they SIGNED not to expand eastwards towards Russia...i.e they withdraw all the way to Germany or better still just stop were they are right now.

You can't be piling war armouries in front of my veranda with the aim of attacking me and you expect me to throw picnic for that.

This bitter truth you will not read or see in the western media.
I'm happy that u can read, type and analyse very well and I like your analysis.
Yhoufh I don't like d two countries bcs of their hate towards blacks.
I'm happy that u are from Ibadan, Oyo state. Let's bring d news down home.
When the military invaded Sunday Igbogbo House at mid night, did u support it? Did Southerners support it?
When d DSS invaded Mary Odili's house in Rivers State at same mid night, what was d response and outcry?
My major concern is invading a sovereign nation. Russia took d war to ukrain which is uncalled for, if Russia does not hv hidden agenda what taken d war to d land soil of a sovereign nation?

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Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by harjay1986: 8:03am On Mar 06, 2022
Mooh247:


A real sanction that can hurt Russia is to stop Oil and Gas trade, disconnect Nord Stream 1, and issue out a No fly zone accross Ukrainian airspace, with NATO and EU fighter jets enforcing the No fly zone

All other sanctions like FIFA, PayPal, Swift , seizing of Russian oligarchy's asset would only make Russia seek trade alternative and become even more self reliant and ruthless

you want to kill most of the Nordic country abi, because most these country depend on NORD stream 1 .... if Russia is been stop for oil Gas trade who will supply the europe the energy needed... Germany dont want to sacrifice anything for now likewise France,

If Nord stream 1 is been close PUTIN will win the war withour any bullet again .... because naa the citizen of these country that will destroy their country ......
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Tomilola360: 8:06am On Mar 06, 2022
Mooh247:


A real sanction that can hurt Russia is to stop Oil and Gas trade, disconnect Nord Stream 1, and issue out a No fly zone accross Ukrainian airspace, with NATO and EU fighter jets enforcing the No fly zone

All other sanctions like FIFA, PayPal, Swift , seizing of Russian oligarchy's asset would only make Russia seek trade alternative and become even more self reliant and ruthless

misinformation dey worry u.
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Blackdisciple(m): 8:11am On Mar 06, 2022
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Russia had requested that the US give it written guarantees that Ukraine-related sanctions "will not in any way harm our rights to free, fully-fledged trade and economic and investment cooperation, [font=Lucida Sans Unicode]military-technical cooperation with Iran".



Only if Putin will stop further invasion of Ukraine.

But this request Putin wanting MILITARY- TECHNICAL COOPERATION WITH IRAN its gonna be a disaster in future even the lsraeli PM knows it will be a problem to lsrael ...
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Banter1(m): 8:13am On Mar 06, 2022
Hisbah21:
we wish this dictator will listen..and meanwhile Putin prooved to the world he's unstopeable. the superpowers are bending to his wish
No one is bending to his wishes. War is not a good thing, because it's the civilians that suffers more. that's why the superpower wants peace. If the rest of the world superpower should face Russia it will be deadly.
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Powersurge: 8:20am On Mar 06, 2022
Hisbah21:
we wish this dictator will listen..and meanwhile Putin prooved to the world he's unstopeable. the superpowers are bending to his wish

U don't understand how international politics works. Putin lacks emotional intelligence. Biden is a man with massive power and big emotional intelligence. If it was Trump, this thing could lead to world war. Russia is small to compared to the might of the United States Army. A country spending an average of $700B on defense every year and one spending $60b no be mate. There is not country in the world that has the military might of the US as at now. But when a mad man has access to nukes, he doesn't care if the entire world is turned to dust.
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by mvem(m): 8:29am On Mar 06, 2022
Techsupport:


Trade alternatives with who? China is already back peddling from Russia
they are not
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by mvem(m): 8:35am On Mar 06, 2022
thatsleepboy1:
Old news, Israel offered Tel Aviv as a neutral ground for negotiations I'm the first days of the invasion but Russia refused and jammed Israel's airspace. Zelensky is a Jewish man and he's expected to protected by them.
Putin has a Jewish mum
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by mvem(m): 8:36am On Mar 06, 2022
Powersurge:


U don't understand how international politics works. Putin lacks emotional intelligence. Biden is a man with massive power and big emotional intelligence. If it was Trump, this thing could lead to world war. Russia is small to compared to the might of the United States Army. A country spending an average of $700B on defense every year and one spending $60b no be mate. There is not country in the world that has the military might of the US as at now. But when a mad man has access to nukes, he doesn't care if the entire world is turned to dust.
na nonsense you type

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Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Nobody: 8:39am On Mar 06, 2022
Mooh247:


A real sanction that can hurt Russia is to stop Oil and Gas trade, disconnect Nord Stream 1, and issue out a No fly zone accross Ukrainian airspace, with NATO and EU fighter jets enforcing the No fly zone

All other sanctions like FIFA, PayPal, Swift , seizing of Russian oligarchy's asset would only make Russia seek trade alternative and become even more self reliant and ruthless

Fantasy
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by jaxxy(m): 8:50am On Mar 06, 2022
Hisbah21:
we wish this dictator will listen..and meanwhile Putin prooved to the world he's unstopeable. the superpowers are bending to his wish

Nobody is bending to anybody wishes bt respecting certain boundaries. Both sides must respect it and they know it.
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Powersurge: 8:55am On Mar 06, 2022
mvem:
na nonsense you type
Ok.
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Alamkir: 8:56am On Mar 06, 2022
GodHatesBigots:


The sanctions are not provocative. Putin only understands force.

So why don't the west use force and attack Russia and bear the consequences instead of chicken into sanction
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Gben5: 9:11am On Mar 06, 2022
Hisbah21:
we wish this dictator will listen..and meanwhile Putin prooved to the world he's unstopeable. the superpowers are bending to his wish
you are talking shit....you don't no what you re saying
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Playermayweda(m): 9:33am On Mar 06, 2022
emmanuelbrown26:

I'm happy that u can read, type and analyse very well and I like your analysis.
Yhoufh I don't like d two countries bcs of their hate towards blacks.
I'm happy that u are from Ibadan, Oyo state. Let's bring d news down home.
When the military invaded Sunday Igbogbo House at mid night, did u support it? Did Southerners support it?
When d DSS invaded Mary Odili's house in Rivers State at same mid night, what was d response and outcry?
My major concern is invading a sovereign nation. Russia took d war to ukrain which is uncalled for, if Russia does not hv hidden agenda what taken d war to d land soil of a sovereign nation?


U properly didn't read what he wrote at all
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Playermayweda(m): 9:35am On Mar 06, 2022
Powersurge:


U don't understand how international politics works. Putin lacks emotional intelligence. Biden is a man with massive power and big emotional intelligence. If it was Trump, this thing could lead to world war. Russia is small to compared to the might of the United States Army. A country spending an average of $700B on defense every year and one spending $60b no be mate. There is not country in the world that has the military might of the US as at now. But when a mad man has access to nukes, he doesn't care if the entire world is turned to dust.

Funny considering america is the only country in history to use nukes on civilians
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by tonididdy(m): 9:39am On Mar 06, 2022
Mooh247:
cool



God bless Isreal

Sometimes all is needed is conflict resolution by a good mediator not provocative sanctions

Mexican President also gave a wonderful speech on need for peaceful dialogue

You see US and NATO they are not honest and they have hidden agenda


.
Rumour has it, Ukraine's request to join nato was halted because xelensky is a very rude fellow... I mean very rude.
But naturally, Ukrainians are rude beings.
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by emmanuelbrown26: 9:45am On Mar 06, 2022
Playermayweda:



U properly didn't read what he wrote at all
I read it very very well sir, let's not twist the whole thing abeg. Russia invading ukrain is uncalled for no matter how we all want to see it (never a fan of d two countries bcs they are damn too racist) but what Putin is doing is uncalled for.
As a grown up man, how would u see it if your parents start dictating to u people to be keeping as friends? Your parents dictating to u who to marry and who not to marry?
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Idaytesj29(m): 10:18am On Mar 06, 2022
Mooh247:
cool



God bless Isreal

Sometimes all is needed is conflict resolution by a good mediator not provocative sanctions

Mexican President also gave a wonderful speech on need for peaceful dialogue

[/b]You see US and NATO they are not honest and they have hidden agenda[b]


.

@ the bolded, God bless you.

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Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Juventus4life: 10:21am On Mar 06, 2022
Mooh247:


A real sanction that can hurt Russia is to stop Oil and Gas trade, disconnect Nord Stream 1, and issue out a No fly zone accross Ukrainian airspace, with NATO and EU fighter jets enforcing the No fly zone

All other sanctions like FIFA, PayPal, Swift , seizing of Russian oligarchy's asset would only make Russia seek trade alternative and become even more self reliant and ruthless

Nice observation but they cannot ban Russia oil and gas because 45-50% gas consumed in Europe are been supply by Russia.
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Idaytesj29(m): 10:25am On Mar 06, 2022
Mooh247:


A real sanction that can hurt Russia is to stop Oil and Gas trade, disconnect Nord Stream 1, and issue out a No fly zone accross Ukrainian airspace, with NATO and EU fighter jets enforcing the No fly zone

All other sanctions like FIFA, PayPal, Swift , seizing of Russian oligarchy's asset would only make Russia seek trade alternative and become even more self reliant and ruthless

Oil and Gas trade can not be stopped. EU and US can only stop buying Russian crude, she will sell to other countries.

More Stream 1 gas does serve Europe, especially Germany. Cut it off and watch them freeze to death in their homes. Ukraine is yet to be a member of NATO and thats why NATO cannot declare a No flying Zone over Ukraine. And let's assume they do, na cargo plane Russia go fly over Ukraine? Or Russia no get fighter Jets?

All other sanctions are not new, since the era of the USSR the state of RUSSIA had always being under stiff sanction by US led west. So, its not new, they will survive.

US and NATO should go and honor their agreement with Russia.

Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by supercase1(m): 10:27am On Mar 06, 2022
post=110787709:
Peace is all we want in the World.
Hypocrite cool
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by Nobody: 10:39am On Mar 06, 2022
Powersurge:


U don't understand how international politics works. Putin lacks emotional intelligence. Biden is a man with massive power and big emotional intelligence. If it was Trump, this thing could lead to world war. Russia is small to compared to the might of the United States Army. A country spending an average of $700B on defense every year and one spending $60b no be mate. There is not country in the world that has the military might of the US as at now. But when a mad man has access to nukes, he doesn't care if the entire world is turned to dust.

trash
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by SirMichael1: 10:40am On Mar 06, 2022
Mooh247:


A real sanction that can hurt Russia is to stop Oil and Gas trade, disconnect Nord Stream 1, and issue out a No fly zone accross Ukrainian airspace, with NATO and EU fighter jets enforcing the No fly zone

All other sanctions like FIFA, PayPal, Swift , seizing of Russian oligarchy's asset would only make Russia seek trade alternative and become even more self reliant and ruthless

US and the other NATO allies cannot enforce a no fly zone in Ukraine simply because Ukraine is not yet part of NATO. If she was, the a no fly zone would have changed the entire war. Maybe we might even have another WW.
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by ObamaMessi: 10:54am On Mar 06, 2022
U.S can end russia if they so desires
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by ObamaMessi: 11:04am On Mar 06, 2022
iFight2Death:
say an armed robber
Mods rule 19.
Re: Ukraine: Israel PM Meets Putin In Moscow For Ukraine Talks by KingOfAmebo(m): 11:06am On Mar 06, 2022
Mooh247:


A real sanction that can hurt Russia is to stop Oil and Gas trade, disconnect Nord Stream 1, and issue out a No fly zone accross Ukrainian airspace, with NATO and EU fighter jets enforcing the No fly zone

All other sanctions like FIFA, PayPal, Swift , seizing of Russian oligarchy's asset would only make Russia seek trade alternative and become even more self reliant and ruthless

"It baffles me when some of you think Russia is just one small island that any country can bully". Village People Spokesperson.

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