It was agreed in December 2010 that dealer shouldn't have more tha 3 (three) same threads floated in this section in a day. But now i don't see this RULE being effective anymore. It was also discussed that we should be helpful to our morderators - I have clicked the "report to morderator" badge a couple of times this month on defaults i noticed, but till today as i write, these people still go scott-free with no warnings nor actions to ther offences.

teddy2t

sleekycars

etc, are glaring examples on the front page right now (June 29, 2011 - 10:25am)

Please we need to know what is happening!!!

Also on the issue of multiple identities by a single user. There are still many that are very glaring and passing our eyes unnoticed. Any regular member to this section would notice this very easily. I have to mention names now, regardless if i'm stepping on any toes;

DAY11 - Mr. Motor

Check these two ID's and you'll notice that the contacts are the same. Most of his threads even have NO contacts at all. I'm very sure he forgot to edit these knowing he could be caught. Compare these threads quickly before the get re-edited;

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-684235.0.html

                           &

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-691810.0.html

Then relate findings to this thread; https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-644441.0.html


There are many more existing. I mean, what is the essence of STANDARDS without CONSISTENCY

WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD!!

Kind regards.

mac5 keeps creating new threads on his Audi - Don't we need our web space for more valuable ad's?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-701794.0.html

These also by mac5;

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-701809.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-701819.0.html

Kind regards.

Dan, I've noticed this growing trend too. And multiple posters. One I've just spotted is Mac5. He's repeated the Audi A4 9 times, as at this morning:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=701794.msg8613833#msg8613833 (Audi A4, 9 times).

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=647184.msg8131478#msg8131478 (Mazda 323 18 times).

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=701819.msg8613997#msg8613997 (Honda Accord 10 times).

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=701809.msg8613918#msg8613918 (Nissan Almera 4 times).

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=678609.msg8419265#msg8419265 (Toyota Camry 3 times).

All his vehicles, including the Infiniti FX are repeated almost daily. Now where's the sense in that?

I think we need more Moderators on this section to help out.


Nigerians are so greedy, chop alone attitude.

We don't need more morderators here. Three mod's are more than enough here. What we need is dedications and team work from them. Morderator_1 who started this very well seems to be Missing In Action (MIA). Apart from that, I don't see any mod activities where we need to. Let's speak the truth where it needs to be told.

Kind regards.

^^^^^^


I said that because from the look of things here the Present Moderators seems to be very busy.

Just an observation tho.

The we need morderators that we would call morderators if that's the case - SIMPLE SOLUTION

Ordinarily, I would have contributed enthusiastically to this thread. But doing so will be like pouring water on marble expecting it to sink in. So let me make my contribution with no ounce of enthusiasm.

I have been previously reluctant in revealing how to identify suspected multiple ID users fearing that doing so will tip them off, making it harder to identify them. But since Dantitiki has led the way, here goes:

1. If you see two users consistently updating their ads at the same time, there is a high probability they are one and the same person. For instance if you consistently see John Doe and Mike Smith update their ads everyday as shown below, there is a good chance they are one and the same person:

John Doe
John Doe
John Doe
Mike Smith
Mike Smith
Mike Smith

As you can see the dealer above has successfully beaten the 3 ad rule by submitting 6 ads at the same time. Without naming names, suffice it to say that I see this almost everyday in the Auto Section.

2. If you see one dealer writing "available" or something similar on the ad of another dealer, there is a good chance they are one and the same person. If you think about it, how will a dealer know that another dealer's car is "available" unless they are the same or affiliated.

3. A variation of 2 occurs when a "user" makes a fake offer on a dealer's ad without revealing that they are one and the same. This is called a shill offer and is a bit difficult to identify. Piedpiper was smart enough to catch one such dealer recently.

There are other subtle ways of catching multiple ID users but I will stop here for now until the moderators are ready to do something about it.

quite honestly, I think it is really up to us users to NAME and SHAME, it's the only way while mods will have access IP and other data they can use to verify accusations, if enough people report the same users I'm sure the mods will take action, remember it's not a full time job for them.


I think we should use this thread to NAME and SHAME offenders, and if we are wrong to apologise.

DAY11 - Mr. Motor

and

Mac5

Defend yourselves or I will take it on myself to start reporting all your posts.

mastro

"Dantitiki despite being a Critic Has NEVER For Once Reported An Anomaly, But he is always Ouick to Open a Thread With Lengthy paragraphs, It takes Less time to Use the Report to Mod Button Than to Open a Thread highlighting systematic imaginary flaws"


You can call me a critic again. I would continue to be whatever you call me till I feel the right air blow here on NL. You can also deny me using the "report to mod" button because members can't see the so called emails you get once the button is clicked on. If all mods here admit that they never got any reports from me within the last 2 weeks, then I'll agree that I'm claiming falsely. If all the evidences I've made open here are FALSE, then please ignore whatever thread I have opened. At least many are watching the so-called IMAGINARY FLAWS.


@chealseabmw
Don't get me wrong. We don't need more mod's here, we only need this section to be a better place for all members and interested members.


Kind regards.
.

Re: Reporting to the Moderator.

In the former communist Poland, Polish citizens were frequently arrested by the Police sometimes for what they said in the privacy of their own homes. Nobody knew how the Police were getting these information. But after the fall of communism in the early 90s, Polish Police files were thrown open to the public and people were free to look at the information the Police had on them and how they got them.

It turned out that family members were sometimes spying on each other on behalf of the Police. For instance, some people looked at their files and found out that they were arrested and imprisoned as a result of information secretly given to the Police by their father, mother, brother or sister.

The point I'm trying to make here is that we should try and keep the identity of people who make reports to the moderators confidential. Revealing their names might make them and others reluctant in making future reports.

chelseabmw:

Another bad example is

Proxyautos

i have already blocked his thread and moved them

How will mods know about this when this young man comes at about 2:30am to come and update his thread?

See link below

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-699842.0.html#msg8619534

@ ChelseaBMW,

Keep up the good job.

chelseabmw:

Another bad example is

Proxyautos

i have already blocked his thread and moved them

How will mods know about this when this young man comes at about 2:30am to come and update his thread?

See link below

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-699842.0.html#msg8619534

these are the kind of actions we need and more. the world is open to innovations and nairaland isn't an exception. we have to implore new ways to get insanity out of here because these people would always come up with new ways to beat us, so why not we take the lead now before the get there.

kind regards.

inspired_m:


Bizbooks I think Sometimes We forget that Nairaland, is Firstly a Discussion and Privately Owned Free Internet Forum

Nairaland Autos Section also Is Firstly an Auto discussion Forum and Not a dedicated Autos Sales Website.

You are right about that. But for all intents and purposes, the Auto Section has now evolved into a full scale Auto Sales website. The biggest problem we have here is that we have failed to adapt to this evolution. If the Auto Section is filled with people like you and me, we will not even need a moderator to watch over us. But sadly, that is not the case.

Since we have a lot of "smart dealers" here, we need to be a step ahead of them. But for now, they appear to be several steps ahead of us. Yesterday, Dantitiki mentioned a dealer violating the 3 ad rule. And what did that dealer do today? He violated the same rule even further.

After Inspired became a moderator and introduced the bulk section and 3 ad rule, I thought he had the power to make any changes he deemed fit. But apparently that is not the case. I have no doubt that the Auto Section will be cleaned up one day. The question is: do we do it now or after more traumatic events.

I remember in the time past when the Auto section was not as large (bloated) as it is now. It was just an enthusiast section. From my recollection, there was only one person that made classifieds on the Auto Section (Viper) and it made no difference to the section plus he had proven himself to be a trustworthy for at the time, you couldn't make classified 'cause you wouldn't be patronised (who would trust the an average-Joe with no background). It's a whole " 'nother" conclusion today. Anybody places anything and people flood the pages with offers (realistic or unrealistic). Now, it's all bloated with classified. From my recollection, Seun was the only administrator and for the most part, it was all in check without much to complain about. Fast-forward and three administrators later, it is side-ways. An Auto-Classified Section may not be a bad idea; but again, I'm in no position to give alternatives because I don't know what it takes behind the scenes. Many of the classifieds in the Auto Sections have expired or dated. We can start by cleaning them up but everyone is going to have to chip in.

Till this moment, Mr.Motor aka DAY11 still posts with both usernames. If I'm still imagining, then someone please wake me UP!!

Olanshi is the current party rocker. After 6 threads and he aint DRUNK yet,

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Another Violator below:

1984 Mark Truck 4 Sale@aesthetic Autos Coming soon teddy2t 9 166 Yesterday at 09:28:39 AM
by teddy2t
05 Nissan Maxima Pre Order @ Aesthetic Autos teddy2t 15 434 Yesterday at 09:27:47 AM
by teddy2t
9ja Used Toyota Passeo Coupe@teddy Motors 400k REDUCE PRICE teddy2t 7 325 Yesterday at 09:26:51 AM
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9ja Used Kia Rio@aesthetic Autos Nig Ltd Ikorodu Lagos 650k teddy2t 4 155 Yesterday at 09:22:51 AM
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01 Vw Bettle 9ja Used @ Aesthetic Autos reduce price 470k teddy2t 13 651 Yesterday at 09:21:51 AM
by teddy2t

Chai, Some Nigerians no dey gree,its in the blood

Can this thread be make a sticky (tiop if forum) for a couple of days?

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVEN'T SEEN THIS YET, SO THOUGHT IT WOULD BE USEFUL HERE.


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