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Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by erenax: 9:25pm On Mar 20, 2022
Religious Experts, Come and clear some air on this

Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by BirtherOfKings(f): 9:27pm On Mar 20, 2022
Since the person is heaven gateaman, he shld ask his oga or better still go there and test to see what will happen wink wink smiley
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by Uprightness100(m): 9:28pm On Mar 20, 2022
Simple!
The Work of Satan is nothing else but to Steal, Kill and Destroy.
Destruction is what he is doing now to those who are in Hell now and he will continue on those who will go to Hell.

Hell is Real Folks! It is a terrible place !
You Believe or you don't is irrelevant. When you Die without JESUS Christ! You will open your eyes there and you will Believe by force.
No Joy there!
No fun there!
No smiles there!
No Death there
It is Wailing, crying, gnashing of teeth and Pains forever and ever.

That is why we are here to teach you and show you the way of light! The way to Heaven. That is the JESUS way.
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by rickpat(m): 9:28pm On Mar 20, 2022
the same reason as getting beaten when you go to the police cell by same people that broke the law as much as you did ......na ioke o...maybe some folks will get a reasonable answer ..good luck

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Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by erenax: 9:42pm On Mar 20, 2022
Uprightness100:
Simple!
The Work of Satan is nothing else but to Steal, Kill and Destroy.
That is what he is doing now to those who are in Hell now and he will continue on those who will go to Hell.

Hell is Real Folks! It is a terrible place !
You Believe or you don't is irrelevant. When you Die without JESUS Christ! You will open your eyes there and you will Believe by force.
No Joy there!
No fun there!
No smiles there!
No Death there
It is Wailing, crying, gnashing of teeth and Pains forever and ever.

That is why we are here to teach you and show you the way of light! The way to Heaven. That is the JESUS way.

Steal and kill from people who are in hell?
What is he going to steal precisely
And how is he going to kill people already dead?
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by cornelboy(f): 10:00pm On Mar 20, 2022
erenax:
Religious Experts, Come and clear some air on this
Jehovah God never said he will punish anyone in hell or allow Satan the devil to torment people.

"The wages of sin is death" not any possiblity of suffering after death.

Revelation 20:13-14
[13]And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
[14]And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Lake of fire here symbolises eternal destruction i.e both death and hell will be destroyed, they cease to exist.
Note that hell simply means the grave or realm of the dead. It's an imaginary place, it doesn't exist.
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by Nobody: 10:16pm On Mar 20, 2022
I can see ignorance here although not his/her fault it is a question so let me answer this quickly; Satan is not purnishing or going to punish Any body in hell as a matter of fact Satan himself and his angels(demons) would be torture in hell, or havent you read that hell fire was originally made for the devil and his angels? humans who chose to sin too would go to hell don't get me wrong, so abstain from sin brethrens........ OK just read revelation 20:10
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by brightest5050: 10:36pm On Mar 20, 2022
Uprightness100:
Simple!
The Work of Satan is nothing else but to Steal, Kill and Destroy.
Destruction is what he is doing now to those who are in Hell now and he will continue on those who will go to Hell.

Hell is Real Folks! It is a terrible place !
You Believe or you don't is irrelevant. When you Die without JESUS Christ! You will open your eyes there and you will Believe by force.
No Joy there!
No fun there!
No smiles there!
No Death there
It is Wailing, crying, gnashing of teeth and Pains forever and ever.

That is why we are here to teach you and show you the way of light! The way to Heaven. That is the JESUS way.

Please is this Righteousness??
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by petra1(m): 11:38pm On Mar 20, 2022
erenax:
Religious Experts, Come and clear some air on this

The Bible never said Satan is tormenting people in hell.

Satan himself will be in torment
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by 9JAFULLBREED(m): 12:11am On Mar 21, 2022
Super Story! grin


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Uprightness100:
Simple!
The Work of Satan is nothing else but to Steal, Kill and Destroy.
Destruction is what he is doing now to those who are in Hell now and he will continue on those who will go to Hell.

Hell is Real Folks! It is a terrible place !
You Believe or you don't is irrelevant. When you Die without JESUS Christ! You will open your eyes there and you will Believe by force.
No Joy there!
No fun there!
No smiles there!
No Death there
It is Wailing, crying, gnashing of teeth and Pains forever and ever.

That is why we are here to teach you and show you the way of light! The way to Heaven. That is the JESUS way.
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Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by Kobojunkie: 12:26am On Mar 21, 2022
erenax:
Religious Experts, Come and clear some air on this
Can you please quote the verses from scripture where you find it written that Satan will torture folks in hell. undecided

Hell, the place of eternal damnation, is a place created for Satan and his angels to endure eternal punishment - Matthew 25 vs 41 - 46. undecided
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by Dtruthspeaker: 6:22am On Mar 21, 2022
erenax:
Religious Experts, Come and clear some air on this

Una no dey read? Someone has already brought it here and it has been torn to pieces.
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by erenax: 10:19am On Mar 21, 2022
Johnnycastro18:
I can see ignorance here although not his/her fault it is a question so let me answer this quickly; Satan is not purnishing or going to punish Any body in hell as a matter of fact Satan himself and his angels(demons) would be torture in hell, or havent you read that hell fire was originally made for the devil and his angels? humans who chose to sin too would go to hell don't get me wrong, so abstain from sin brethrens........ OK just read revelation 20:10

So Satan and Demons are currently being tortured?
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by erenax: 10:20am On Mar 21, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Can you please quote the verses from scripture where you find it written that Satan will torture folks in hell. undecided

Hell, the place of eternal damnation, is a place created for Satan and his angels to endure eternal punishment - Matthew 25 vs 41 - 46. undecided

What about human beings
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by Kobojunkie: 12:46pm On Mar 21, 2022
erenax:
What about human beings
According to that passage, the unfaithful servants of God aka the goats in God's flock are angels of the devil. I.e. the one's who their father is the devil. undecided
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by erenax: 10:53pm On Mar 21, 2022
Kobojunkie:
According to that passage, the unfaithful servants of God aka the goats in God's flock are angels of the devil. I.e. the one's who their father is the devil. undecided

I no understand
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by Kobojunkie: 10:56pm On Mar 21, 2022
erenax:

I no understand
The unfaithful servants of God are children of the devil aka Satan's angels.. undecided
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by Nobody: 12:45am On Mar 22, 2022
erenax:


So Satan and Demons are currently being tortured?
read my writeup once again, I said would be torture that is not yet but in the future, it means you didnt even read revelation 20:10 that I Ask you to Read
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by TruthinAction: 7:43am On Mar 22, 2022
cornelboy:

Jehovah God never said he will punish anyone in hell or allow Satan the devil to torment people.

"The wages of sin is death" not any possiblity of suffering after death.

Revelation 20:13-14
[13]And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
[14]And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Lake of fire here symbolises eternal destruction i.e both death and hell will be destroyed, they cease to exist.
Note that hell simply means the grave or realm of the dead. It's an imaginary place, it doesn't exist.

Says brainwashed Jehovah witness.

Hell as a place of torment is real. But you have chosen to believe a lie.

Does the physical grave have a gate? Jesus talked about the gates of hell.

Does the grave have keys? Jesus talked about having the keys of hell and of death - Revelation 1:18.

Is the physical grave so deep that it can be used as a reference point for depths. But the scripture used the phrase, 'as deep as hell.

Do people cry in the physical grave? But our Lord Jesus said their shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth day and night.
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by TruthinAction: 7:46am On Mar 22, 2022
erenax:
Religious Experts, Come and clear some air on this

It's his nature. He gets more power for doing evil. He delights in it. He tortures Christians more who derail from the faith. He mocks at them for not believing the gospel.
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:17am On Mar 22, 2022
Hell simply means Grave, there's no torment afterwards! smiley
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by Janosky: 9:57am On Mar 22, 2022
TruthinAction:


Says brainwashed Jehovah witness.
Slave of 3 deities Polytheist typing GIBBERISH
grin
TruthinAction:


Hell as a place of torment is real. But you have chosen to believe a lie.
The hell you tortured Jesus Christ?
Or the hell you tortured Adam?
Or the hell you tortured Sodom and Gomorrah?
Or the hell you tortured the wicked people destroyed by Noah's flood?

Jude 1:7 & Luke 17:29,is eternal fire torturing Sodom and Gomorrah today?
Oga, no dey DECEIVE yourself.
TruthinAction:


Does the physical grave have a gate? Jesus talked about the gates of hell.
Genesis 37:36,who opened the gate of hell for Jacob to go down there?
TruthinAction:


Does the grave have keys? Jesus talked about having the keys of hell and of death - Revelation 1:18.
Is the physical grave so deep that it can be used as a reference point for depths. But the scripture used the phrase, 'as deep as hell.
1 Corinthians 15:55, does death have a sting like scorpion?
Oga, Romans 11:33,How many feet deep is the depth of God's riches , Wisdom & knowledge?

Revelation 1:18,1 Corinthians 15:55 & Romans 11:33 are figures of speech.
TruthinAction:


Do people cry in the physical grave? But our Lord Jesus said their shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth day and night.
Matthew 25 is not about physical grave. You made it up.
Did Sodom and Gomorrah receive everlasting punishment of torture forever?
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by TruthinAction: 10:37am On Mar 22, 2022
Janosky:

Slave of 3 deities Polytheist typing GIBBERISH
grin

The hell you tortured Jesus Christ?
Or the hell you tortured Adam?
Or the hell you tortured Sodom and Gomorrah?
Or the hell you tortured the wicked people destroyed by Noah's flood?

Jude 1:7 & Luke 17:29,is eternal fire torturing Sodom and Gomorrah today?
Oga, no dey DECEIVE yourself.

Genesis 37:36,who opened the gate of hell for Jacob to go down there?

1 Corinthians 15:55, does death have a sting like scorpion?
Oga, Romans 11:33,How many feet deep is the depth of God's riches , Wisdom & knowledge?

Revelation 1:18,1 Corinthians 15:55 & Romans 11:33 are figures of speech.

Matthew 25 is not about physical grave. You made it up.
Did Sodom and Gomorrah receive everlasting punishment of torture forever?

You have made up your mind not to believe God's word because of a preconceived opinion.

Yes, Sodom and Gomorrah are still suffering in hell. Jude 7 tells us that;

Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, SUFFERING the vengeance of eternal fire.

The word suffering is a present continuous term.

If you don't believe there is hell, you will believe when you get there because your founder has been seen in hell suffering so much torture because of his deceitful teachings.
Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by Janosky: 1:18pm On Mar 22, 2022
TruthinAction:


You have made up your mind not to believe God's word because of a preconceived opinion.

Yes, Sodom and Gomorrah are still suffering in hell. Jude 7 tells us that;

Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, SUFFERING the vengeance of eternal fire.

The word suffering is a present continuous term.
.


Luke 17:29, Jesus Christ said:
"But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all."

When your Trinitarian mentors translate the Bible they DUBIOUSLY put SUFFERING in Jude 1:7 to DECEIVE you.

Oga, either you are LYING or Jesus Christ spoke the truth @Luke 17:29.
Make your choice. grin cheesy

TruthinAction:


If you don't believe there is hell, you will believe when you get there because your founder has been seen in hell suffering so much torture because of his deceitful teachings.

Sheol the grave is NOT a place of suffering.

[b] Psalms 9:17
"The wicked shall return to the grave (Sheol), that is the dust" , authentic, true translation.


Your KJV DECEIVED you & insert "Hell" making you think it's hellfire.
Oga,read the Screenshots of Psalms 9:17 explained by Biblehub your Trinity mentors & receive SENSE. grin grin
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Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by TruthinAction: 4:59pm On Mar 22, 2022
Janosky:



Luke 17:29, Jesus Christ said:
"But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all."

When your Trinitarian mentors translate the Bible they DUBIOUSLY put SUFFERING in Jude 1:7 to DECEIVE you.

Oga, either you are LYING or Jesus Christ spoke the truth @Luke 17:29.
Make your choice. grin cheesy



Sheol the grave is NOT a place of suffering.

[b] Psalms 9:17
"The wicked shall return to the grave (Sheol), that is the dust" , authentic, true translation.


Your KJV DECEIVED you & insert "Hell" making you think it's hellfire.
Oga,read the Screenshots of Psalms 9:17 explained by Biblehub your Trinity mentors & receive SENSE. grin grin
[/b]

The honest way to correctly interprete scripture is to examine every verses in the Bible that directly and indirectly refers to the subject. It is a spiritual fraud to only quote scriptures that appears to support your preconceived opinions and ignore others that contradicts it.

Looking at verses or passages that refers to hell or hell fire, any sane man will know it's referring to a place of torture. Putting grave in place of hell in most context will not even make sense or fir into it.

For instance, the story of the Rich man and Lazarus is a good example. The Bible says that the rich man lifted his eyes in hell. I know it's a true life story but you call it a parable. Even if it's a parable, the message is still clear.

In parables, you don't use terms that doesn't make sense. You can't for instance say, their was a certain man who was flying. People don't fly. So, if hell is grave, does it make sense to say that the rich man lifted his eyes in grave? Do dead bodies lift their eyes in grave?

In addition, the rich man was in torment in hell. Are people in torment in grave? The rich man also spoke. Do people speak in grave? He also saw Lazarus. Do dead bodies see in grave.

I have a full book on this subject.

Please, run away from that group called Jehovah witness. They are actually agents of darkness preparing people for the very hell they claim doesn't exist.

Time will not permit me to give more examples.

If you have conscience, you should understand the points I have made. You must not win every argument. Know when you are wrong and admit it. No one knows it all.

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Re: Religious Experts, Come And Clear Some Air On This by Hismasterpiece(m): 6:38pm On Mar 22, 2022
TruthinAction:


The honest way to correctly interprete scripture is to examine every verses in the Bible that directly and indirectly refers to the subject. It is a spiritual fraud to only quote scriptures that appears to support your preconceived opinions and ignore others that contradicts it.

Looking at verses or passages that refers to hell or hell fire, any sane man will know it's referring to a place of torture. Putting grave in place of hell in most context will not even make sense or fir into it.

For instance, the story of the Rich man and Lazarus is a good example. The Bible says that the rich man lifted his eyes in hell. I know it's a true life story but you call it a parable. Even if it's a parable, the message is still clear.

In parables, you don't use terms that doesn't make sense. You can't for instance say, their was a certain man who was flying. People don't fly. So, if hell is grave, does it make sense to say that the rich man lifted his eyes in grave? Do dead bodies lift their eyes in grave?

In addition, the rich man was in torment in hell. Are people in torment in grave? The rich man also spoke. Do people speak in grave? He also saw Lazarus. Do dead bodies see in grave.

I have a full book on this subject.

Please, run away from that group called Jehovah witness. They are actually agents of darkness preparing people for the very hell they claim doesn't exist.

Time will not permit me to give more examples.

If you have conscience, you should understand the points I have made. You must not win every argument. Know when you are wrong and admit it. No one knows it all.

You just spoke my mind exactly. That's the thing about Scripture. You can't form a doctrine out of one portion of Scripture when there are many other portions of Scripture relating to that subject that contradict it.

Leave these Jehovah's Witnesses jare, there's no convincing them. Their deceit runs deep... very deep.

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