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Re: Russian Hypersonic Messiles Can't Be Stopped, USA Behind In Hypersonics by Nobody: 9:01am On Mar 23, 2022
Svlla:
CAATSA has been used on India, Turkey before the Ukraine 'invasion' so it's not about Ukraine
Russia will be sanctioned anyway and any country that buys Russia arms will be sanctioned likewise

Nigeria should try order 1 S300 and the sale of Super tucano jet will stop immediately


Russia have been sanction already, So if you are a US customer and trying to patronize russia, you will have your business deals with the US terminated.
Re: Russian Hypersonic Messiles Can't Be Stopped, USA Behind In Hypersonics by NOETHNICITY(m): 9:07am On Mar 23, 2022
BritishNaija:


If russia was not bullying or invading her neigboring countries, there would have been no sanction.
You obviously don't understand
That's why I hate to engage most of you with half education on nairaland

US have law that triggers the CAATSA act. As a country you buy Russian weapons you get sanctioned by USA. Turkey for example is facing US sanctions for buying Russia S400 defense system
US has threatened indian that it could face US sanctions if it goes ahead and buys the Russian s400 defense system

So if the US isn't scared of Russia weapons gaining prominence across the world why sanction countries for buying it

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Re: Russian Hypersonic Messiles Can't Be Stopped, USA Behind In Hypersonics by Svlla: 9:13am On Mar 23, 2022
You don't get
CAATSA is not about Sanction but about countering Russia who is US biggest adversary

Any country that buys Russian arms will not get US arms and US has the best jets in the world albeit expensive while Russia has the best airdefence. Simply put you can't have both

CAATSA has been in existence for a while now and US has many doctrines guiding their arms sales

BritishNaija:


Russia have been sanction already, So if you are a US customer and trying to patronize russia, you will have your business deals with the US terminated.

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Re: Russian Hypersonic Messiles Can't Be Stopped, USA Behind In Hypersonics by Svlla: 9:18am On Mar 23, 2022
India has already paid for its S400 and even waiting when the RUS begins selling S500 according to Russia defence ministry India is the only country that has preodered the S500

The USA is obviously scared of Russian arms and Russian arms are easily marketable.

Since the S400 there have never been any missile defence that comes close to it......S400 is a threat to anything that flies in the air

NOETHNICITY:
You obviously don't understand
That's why I hate to engage most of you with half education on nairaland

US have law that triggers the CAATSA act. As a country you buy Russian weapons you get sanctioned by USA. Turkey for example is facing US sanctions for buying Russia S400 defense system
US has threatened indian that it could face US sanctions if it goes ahead and buys the Russian s400 defense system

So if the US isn't scared of Russia weapons gaining prominence across the world why sanction countries for buying it

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Re: Russian Hypersonic Messiles Can't Be Stopped, USA Behind In Hypersonics by Nobody: 9:26am On Mar 23, 2022
Svlla:
You don't get
CAATSA is not about Sanction but about countering Russia who is US biggest adversary

Any country that buys Russian arms will not get US arms and US has the best jets in the world albeit expensive while Russia has the best airdefence. Simply put you can't have both

CAATSA has been in existence for a while now and US has many doctrines guiding their arms sales


I know this, the Reason for that is because US and Russia is never on thesame page.
Re: Russian Hypersonic Messiles Can't Be Stopped, USA Behind In Hypersonics by Svlla: 9:32am On Mar 23, 2022
Yes they are not on the same page most times but Russia dont go about looking for Acts that will limit US arms sales
Know why?

Because they floor the US in that industry

USA only know how to produce expensive arms like Carriers and fighter jets


BritishNaija:


I know this, the Reason for that is because US and Russia is never on thesame page.

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Re: Russian Hypersonic Messiles Can't Be Stopped, USA Behind In Hypersonics by Nobody: 9:35am On Mar 23, 2022
Svlla:
Yes they are not on the same page most times but Russia dont go about looking for Acts that will limit US arms sales
Know why?

Because they floor the US in that industry

USA only know how to produce expensive arms like Carriers and fighter jets



I'm in office now and can reply much better.
Please which industry they floored US?
Re: Russian Hypersonic Messiles Can't Be Stopped, USA Behind In Hypersonics by Svlla: 9:49am On Mar 23, 2022
Arms

Especially light arms

BritishNaija:


I'm in office now and can reply much better.
Please which industry they floored US?

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Re: Russian Hypersonic Messiles Can't Be Stopped, USA Behind In Hypersonics by NOETHNICITY(m): 9:59am On Mar 23, 2022
Svlla:
India has already paid for its S400 and even waiting when the RUS begins selling S500 according to Russia defence ministry India is the only country that has preodered the S500

The USA is obviously scared of Russian arms and Russian arms are easily marketable.

Since the S400 there have never been any missile defence that comes close to it......S400 is a threat to anything that flies in the air

Thanks bro. You understand
BritishNaija Mr man read the above from people who are much more knowledgeable than you.

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Re: Russian Hypersonic Messiles Can't Be Stopped, USA Behind In Hypersonics by Nobody: 10:44am On Mar 23, 2022
Svlla:
Arms

Especially light arms


There is where Russia have advantage over US, so is where US have advantage over Russia, But when it comes to overall, US is way ahead in weaponry designs and application, Russia is still tryimg to craw out from Soviet Era, and being cash limited in spending and Research gave US the upper hand.

Just like Germany has the cash, But refused to modernize by spending, But now they are waking up.
Re: Russian Hypersonic Messiles Can't Be Stopped, USA Behind In Hypersonics by mysticwarrior(m): 11:09am On Mar 23, 2022
The advantages of hypersonic missiles are many

1 Speed. No time for the enemy to react (either leave or activate/track with air defense system)

Undetectable by radars. At march 10 the temperatures developed(friction of air with the surface of the missile almost 3000 Celsius) will cause the air enveloping the missile to become plasma. Plasma is basically ironized gas which absorbs all electromagnetic radiations thus rendering the object invisible to radar.

3 the kinetic energy at hypersonic speed is huge, it is estimated that the kinetic energy of a kinzhal is more than 4000kg of TNT, making it to hit well fortified ammunition stores and command centers deep in the ground ( compare this with conventional warhead which has a weight of 500kg) in other words much higher penetration than conventional missile.
Re: Russian Hypersonic Messiles Can't Be Stopped, USA Behind In Hypersonics by NOETHNICITY(m): 12:26pm On Mar 23, 2022
BritishNaija:


There is where Russia have advantage over US, so is where US have advantage over Russia, But when it comes to overall, US is way ahead in weaponry designs and application, Russia is still tryimg to craw out from Soviet Era, and being cash limited in spending and Research gave US the upper hand.

Just like Germany has the cash, But refused to modernize by spending, But now they are waking up.
You hate to imagine that any country can contend with US with regards to weapons development. But hate it anyhow you like Russian weapons (if they don't outclass their counterpart US made) will match and contend with US made weapons. The US knows the quality of Russian weapons and that's what informs the CAATSA (Countering America Adversories Sanctions Act). This is meant to put Russian weapons out of contemporary market by punishing countries that buy buy Russian weaponry.
The question now is if Russian weapons don't outclass their counterpart US made,
1, Why is the US scared of Russia weapons?
2, Why trying so hard to put Russian weapons out of the market?
3, Why not let countries buy them and discover how inferior they are?
4, Why are some of world's biggest military powers trying to risk US sanctions to buy Russian made weapons?


If you are not a western asslicker you will learn to understand that there's something about russian weapons that makes them superior than those of thier counterpart.
Take a look at the AK47 for instance that has been in service since the 40s and it still standing should to shoulder and contending with recent US made rifles of same breath and grade notwithstanding the massive difference in thier respective year of production.

Then again, we must understand that US made weapons are grossly overrated and overpriced. I give just 2 examples

1, The US made 5th generation F35 jets which is the most advanced operated by us military, and cost well more than $100m. Notwithstanding the many flaws of that giant bird given the numerous instances it has disappointed and record number of crashes it's still being forced down our throats as being better than it's Russian and chinese counterpart 5th generation SU27 and J20 that cost less.

2, The US made patriot defense system.
There is a reason india decided to risk it's close US relations and sanctions and went for the Russian S400 even though the US offered it the US version of patriot and THAAD (Terminally High Altitude Air Defense) system.

A, The S400 can be assembled and fired within 5mins as against the patriots 30mins.
B, The patriot is more expensive ( this is a situation consistent with US overpriced gadgets)
C, S400 covers 400km range as against 180km patriot
D, S400 carries more messiles
And many other reasons.

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