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Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by VOICEofORIENTAL: 1:12am On Mar 23, 2022
The lies being peddled against The US & its allies is unimaginable:

That the US invaded Afghanistan?. Russia first invaded Afghanistan in 1979 because they wanted to install a govt of thier choice.Russia spent almost 20yrs trying to achieve this but were unable to achieve it before they withdrew.

The US went to Afghanistan after several appeal to the Taliban led-govt to hand over Osama bin laden for killing over 2000 Americans through his terrorist attack, which the Taliban govt refused to.

2.That the US invaded Iraq?.. The Iraqi govt of Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait with just about 100,000 soldiers & conquered it within 24hours.The Kuwaiti Emirates called for help from the US & its allies.after several appeals to Saddam Hussein to withdraw his troops from Kuwait failed to yield any result, the US & its allies had no option than to push Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait.

3.That the US invaded Syria? Russian millitaries were already on ground fighting the ARAB SPRING protesters.Russia & Iran were supporting the govt of Syria against the ARAB SPRING protests.. The US & its allies went to Syria because the Syrian govt & its allies started using chemical weapons on protesters & separatists.

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by silverlinen(m): 1:38am On Mar 23, 2022
Damn....this na real matters brr
Buh the US still get their own for body.
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by BSdetective: 1:57am On Mar 23, 2022
Saddest thing in life is to be a simp coon to the western world that enslaved and colonised your ancestors, slave because you were givien or are expecting visa to enter "Yankee". Thus "oyinbo" can do no wrong.

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by KaluwisxPRO: 3:09am On Mar 23, 2022
BSdetective:
Saddest thing in life is to be a simp coon to the western world that enslaved and colonised your ancestors, slave because you were givien or are expecting visa to enter "Yankee". Thus "oyinbo" can do no wrong.

The US was also built by slaves, but now in this generation of ours, those slaves in the US and you who’s a free man in Nigeria, who is more prosperous??

How far has Africa fared since the colonizers left? Rather your leaders queue daily to get Visa to go visit their slave masters. How Ironic.

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by BKayy: 3:18am On Mar 23, 2022
Voice of oriental,
USA invented modern Jihadi by sending pictures of how to use, arm and handle guerilla warfare to stop Soviet influence on Afghanistan.

The result is what will finish your people in Africa. Atleast the whole of Northern Nigeria is feeling the heat.

USA didn't go to Afghanistan because of one Osama Bin Laden. If they did they wouldn't be scared of Russian threat to expose the secret of 9/11.
Who cares about Osama bin laden?
USA went there for Opium.


As for Ukraine. Many of you don't know that Isil Chechens from Syria have been commissioned to fight in Ukraine. You are worried about Islamists but Lebanese Islamists, Isil and Alqeada are already in Ukraine.
The result is that Eastern Europe will never remain the same. Do you remember Libya? The effect on Nigeria is Boko Haram and ISWAP.

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by joyandfaith: 3:55am On Mar 23, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:
The lies being peddled against The US & its allies is unimaginable:

That the US invaded Afghanistan?. Russia first invaded Afghanistan in 1979 because they wanted to install a govt of thier choice.Russia spent almost 20yrs trying to achieve this but were unable to achieve it before they withdrew.

The US went to Afghanistan after several appeal to the Taliban led-govt to hand over Osama bin laden for killing over 2000 Americans through his terrorist attack, which the Taliban govt refused to.

2.That the US invaded Iraq?.. The Iraqi govt of Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait with just about 100,000 soldiers & conquered it within 24hours.The Kuwaiti Emirates called for help from the US & its allies.after several appeals to Saddam Hussein to withdraw his troops from Kuwait failed to yield any result, the US & its allies had no option than to push Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait.

3.That the US invaded Syria? Russian millitaries were already on ground fighting the ARAB SPRING protesters.Russia & Iran were supporting the govt of Syria against the ARAB SPRING protests.. The US & its allies went to Syria because the Syrian govt & its allies started using chemical weapons on protesters & separatists.

Thank for this!!! US doesn't invade a sovereign nation like what Russia is doing in Ukraine and like what USSR did in Afghanistan.
US has never invaded any country to effect regime change.
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by BKayy: 4:05am On Mar 23, 2022
joyandfaith:


Thank for this!!! US doesn't invade a sovereign nation like what Russia is doing in Ukraine and like what USSR did in Afghanistan.
US has never invaded any country to effect regime change.
What exactly was USA intention when they invaded.
Vietnam 1955
Cuba 1961
Afghanistan 2001
Iraq 2003
Libya 2011

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by joyandfaith: 4:07am On Mar 23, 2022
BKayy:

I[s] wont like to list countries that might be confusing to you so what exactly was USA intention when they invaded.
Vietnam 1955
Cuba 1961
Afghanistan 2001
Iraq 2003
Libya 2011[/s]

US has never invaded any country like what Russia is doing in Ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by BKayy: 4:10am On Mar 23, 2022
joyandfaith:


US has never invaded any country like what Russia is doing in Ukraine.
You could have just put those countries I listed in your Google search keyboard

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by joyandfaith: 4:13am On Mar 23, 2022
BKayy:

[s]You could have just put those countries I listed in your Google search keyboard[/s]
See my signature
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by KaluwisxPRO: 4:26am On Mar 23, 2022
Putin kids thinks Soviet Union is the same as Russia.

USSR is a collective of different states, and since it’s disintegration, Russia has made themselves lord over those smaller Soviet states because they think they can recreate what the US and Europe have.

Truth is, they can if Putin got half the brain of a leader. You have to give something for you to get, Russia offers nothing to former Soviets members, but wants submissions.

Russia in itself is yet to bring any one to submission. Afghan was invaded by Soviets, not Russia, Japanese Island was occupied by Soviets, not Russia.

Russia did not apply to be a permanent member of UN Security Council, they begged to continue the seat of the Soviets and world leaders at the time didn’t bother because they wanted the tensions to die down.

Ukraine is the first in history Russia as a country is invading after Georgia since being a world power, and they’re being publicly embarrassed.

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by Botlord: 7:42am On Mar 23, 2022
KaluwisxPRO:
Putin kids thinks Soviet Union is the same as Russia.

USSR is a collective of different states, and since it’s disintegration, Russia has made themselves lord over those smaller Soviet states because they think they can recreate what the US and Europe have.

Truth is, they can if Putin got half the brain of a leader. You have to give something for you to get, Russia offers nothing to former Soviets members, but wants submissions.

Russia in itself is yet to bring any one to submission. Afghan was invaded by Soviets, not Russia, Japanese Island was occupied by Soviets, not Russia.

Russia did not apply to be a permanent member of UN Security Council, they begged to continue the seat of the Soviets and world leaders at the time didn’t bother because they wanted the tensions to die down.

Ukraine is the first in history Russia as a country is invading after Georgia since being a world power, and they’re being publicly embarrassed.
Don't be too emotional. It must be hard for you to tackle Russia and I'm really sorry for the damage. cry

Good you admit Soviet invade Afghanistan, collect Japanese island. You failed to admit that island is now a Russia own forever. If it's giving so much headache, go and retrieve it for Japan from Russia. Now Japanese dare not step on the island, anything otherwise is a doom for them. cheesy

You said Russia did not apply to be a permanent member of UN security council. No need of applying, it's their heritage and a deserved one at that. tongue

Imagine embarrassing yourself in public by saying Russia is being embarrassed in Ukraine... cheesy It's either you're ignorant or a kid, either one you aren't worth a second.

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by KaluwisxPRO: 8:14am On Mar 23, 2022
Botlord:

Don't be too emotional. It must be hard for you to tackle Russia and I'm really sorry for the damage. cry

Good you admit Soviet invade Afghanistan, collect Japanese island. You failed to admit that island is now a Russia own forever. If it's giving so much headache, go and retrieve it for Japan from Russia. Now Japanese dare not step on the island, anything otherwise is a doom for them. cheesy

You said Russia did not apply to be a permanent member of UN security council. No need of applying, it's their heritage and a deserved one at that. tongue

Imagine embarrassing yourself in public by saying Russia is being embarrassed in Ukraine... cheesy It's either you're ignorant or a kid, either one you aren't worth a second.


Olodo, if not for the US, Germany would have cleared the whole Soviets, the same way that alliance between the US and the Soviets led to the takeover of those Japanese Island, Russia is nowhere in the picture.

Archive from the US government below has more info about the alliance in 1945.

https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/pubs/fs/46345.htm

RUSSIA IS NOT THE SAME AS SOVIET Dummy, you cannot give what you do not have.

Japan will do the needful, no need trying to be stupid, they already sanctioned your lord and savior because the Japs can see Russia is all mouth. Mind you the Soviets got help from the US before

The world is yet to see the might of Russia. They’re getting a good ass rimming from Ukraine.

Russia has lost more soldiers in 4weeks in Ukraine than the US 20years dealing with Afghan State Terrorists.

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by Botlord: 8:23am On Mar 23, 2022
KaluwisxPRO:



Olodo, if not for the US, Germany would have cleared the whole Soviets, the same way that alliance between the US and the Soviets led to the takeover of those Japanese Island, Russia is nowhere in the picture.

Archive from the US government below has more info about the alliance in 1945.

https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/pubs/fs/46345.htm

RUSSIA IS NOT THE SAME AS SOVIET Dummy, you cannot give what you do not have.

Japan will do the needful, no need trying to be stupid, they already sanctioned your lord and savior because the Japs can see Russia is all mouth. Mind you the Soviets got help from the US before

The world is yet to see the might of Russia. They’re getting a good ass rimming from Ukraine.

Russia has lost more soldiers in 4weeks in Ukraine than the US 20years dealing with Afghan State Terrorists.

Ok grin
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by VOICEofORIENTAL: 8:51am On Mar 23, 2022
silverlinen:
Damn....this na real matters brr
Buh the US still get their own for body.
Yes the US have thier own wahala, but the way some people are painting it is pure lie
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by VOICEofORIENTAL: 9:21am On Mar 23, 2022
[quote author=BSdetective post=111279010]Saddest thing in life is to be a simp coon to the western world that enslaved and colonised your ancestors, slave because you were givien or are expecting visa to enter "Yankee". Thus "oyinbo" can do no wrong.[/quote You accused the western world of enslaving & colonizing your ancestors, but you are quick to hail Russia for invading Ukraine? Ukraine got her Independence in 1991 after the fall of USSR.But to Putin & members of the Kremlin, they still see Ukraine as part of them.About 65% of Ukrainians see themselves as EUROPEANS,they want the western type of life, THEY DON'T WANT RUSSIA'S TYPE OF LIFE.Meanwhile eastern part of Ukraine see themselves as part of Russia.. let me stop here.My question is what is the difference between the West & what Russia is doing now in Ukraine?
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by VOICEofORIENTAL: 10:06am On Mar 23, 2022
BKayy:
Voiceoforiental please don't show your ignorance in public.
USA invented modern Jihadi by sending pictures of how to use, arm and handle guerilla warfare to stop Soviet influence on Afghanistan.

The result is what will finish your people in Africa. Atleast the whole of Northern Nigeria is feeling the heat.

USA didn't go to Afghanistan because of one Osama Bin Laden. If they did they wouldn't be scared of Russian threat to expose the secret of 9/11.
Who cares about Osama bin laden?
USA went there for Opium.


As for Ukraine. Many of you don't know that Isil Chechens from Syria have been commissioned to fight in Ukraine. You are worried about Islamists but Lebanese Islamists, Isil and Alqeada are already in Ukraine.
The result is that Eastern Europe will never remain the same. Do you remember Libya? The effect on Nigeria is Boko Haram and ISWAP.


Nwanne, my argument is that some people because of hatred have now falling in love with Russia.. Why did Russia invade Afghanistan in 1979??..Why are those people not condemning Russia's invasion in Afghanistan? Russia spent almost 20yrs in Afghanistan doing what?

As we all know,US entered Afghanistan after the 9/11 attack on WORLD TRADE CENTER THAT KILLED OVER 2000 AMERICANS.. the US asked the Taliban led-govt to hand over Osama bin laden who claimed responsibility for the attack on WTC, which the Taliban govt refused to.

Libya & the ARAB SPRING:
The US & its allies + MEMBERS OF THE ARAB LEAGUE were all present in Libya supporting the protesters & the separatists to flush out the govt of Gaddafi...so why are you not condemning the ARAB LEAGUE NATIONS ?..why is it only the US?
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by VOICEofORIENTAL: 10:11am On Mar 23, 2022
joyandfaith:


Thank for this!!! US doesn't invade a sovereign nation like what Russia is doing in Ukraine and like what USSR did in Afghanistan.
US has never invaded any country to effect regime change.
No one is perfect under the sun, only GOD IS.The US get there own wahala as well
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by BKayy: 10:11am On Mar 23, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:


Nwanne, my argument is that some people because of hatred have now falling in love with Russia.. Why did Russia invade Afghanistan in 1979??..Why are those people not condemning Russia's invasion in Afghanistan? Russia spent almost 20yrs in Afghanistan doing what?

As we all know,US entered Afghanistan after the 9/11 attack on WORLD TRADE CENTER THAT KILLED OVER 2000 AMERICANS.. the US asked the Taliban led-govt to hand over Osama bin laden who claimed responsibility for the attack on WTC, which the Taliban govt refused to.

Libya & the ARAB SPRING:
The US & its allies + MEMBERS OF THE ARAB LEAGUE were all present in Libya supporting the protesters & the separatists to flush out the govt of Gaddafi...so why are you not condemning the ARAB LEAGUE NATIONS ?..why is it only the US?

1. USA invaded Afghanistan for Opium.
Nobody cares about Osama bin Laden.
If it was about Osama bin laden, what were they still doing in Afghanistan after killing him in Pakistan?
And why didn't they invade Pakistan as well?

2. USA/NATO invaded Libya because of the his new economic suggestion that will see Africa break out from the shackles of IMF. The shackles of dollar and also to have access to their oil.

Its all about money and domination. You remember the West African currency "Eco"? The one that would have seen the end of France managing Francophone African economy and foreign reserve?
How did it end?

If USA was interested in dictators, Paul Biya won't be a sitting president while Gaddafi was invaded

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by VOICEofORIENTAL: 10:27am On Mar 23, 2022
BKayy:

What exactly was USA intention when they invaded.
Vietnam 1955
Cuba 1961
Afghanistan 2001
Iraq 2003
Libya 2011
Nwanne, I'm surprised you talked about Iraq? Saddam Hussein was the aggressor,he invaded Kuwait & conquered it within 24hours.several plea to withdraw did not yield any result.several resolutions & sanctions by the UN SECURITY COUNCIL means nothing to him.

Finally, the US & ITS ALLIES intervened & pushed him out
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by OBAGADAFFI: 10:30am On Mar 23, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:

Nwanne, I'm surprised you talked about Iraq? Saddam Hussein was the aggressor,he invaded Kuwait & conquered it within 24hours.several plea to withdraw did not yield any result.several resolutions & sanctions by the UN SECURITY COUNCIL means nothing to him.

Finally, the US & ITS ALLIES intervened & pushed him out

US lied to the UN that Iraqi has WMD, after the invasion no WMD was found.
But the got Iraqi Oil.

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by BKayy: 10:31am On Mar 23, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:

Nwanne, I'm surprised you talked about Iraq? Saddam Hussein was the aggressor,he invaded Kuwait & conquered it within 24hours.several plea to withdraw did not yield any result.several resolutions & sanctions by the UN SECURITY COUNCIL means nothing to him.

Finally, the US & ITS ALLIES intervened & pushed him out
Nna, Saddam Hussein issue is story for another day. Till date, USA don't have any evidence to justify Iraq invasion.

The young man asked if USA has ever invaded a country to effect a regime change and I gave him few of the countries USA invaded to do so.

Iraqi Invasion isn't the way they write about it. Do you know that ISIS, the grandfather of ISWAP was created by those USA detained in camp bucca, Iraq?

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by VOICEofORIENTAL: 10:36am On Mar 23, 2022
KaluwisxPRO:
Putin kids thinks Soviet Union is the same as Russia.

USSR is a collective of different states, and since it’s disintegration, Russia has made themselves lord over those smaller Soviet states because they think they can recreate what the US and Europe have.

Truth is, they can if Putin got half the brain of a leader. You have to give something for you to get, Russia offers nothing to former Soviets members, but wants submissions.

Russia in itself is yet to bring any one to submission. Afghan was invaded by Soviets, not Russia, Japanese Island was occupied by Soviets, not Russia.

Russia did not apply to be a permanent member of UN Security Council, they begged to continue the seat of the Soviets and world leaders at the time didn’t bother because they wanted the tensions to die down.

Ukraine is the first in history Russia as a country is invading after Georgia since being a world power, and they’re being publicly embarrassed.
Well said,true talk!.. ANOTHER ISSUE HERE IS WHY ARE THOSE EASTERN COUNTRIES RUNNING AWAY FROM RUSSIA,THEY PREFER THE WEST MORE THAN RUSSIANS.

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by VOICEofORIENTAL: 10:44am On Mar 23, 2022
Botlord:

Don't be too emotional. It must be hard for you to tackle Russia and I'm really sorry for the damage. cry

Good you admit Soviet invade Afghanistan, collect Japanese island. You failed to admit that island is now a Russia own forever. If it's giving so much headache, go and retrieve it for Japan from Russia. Now Japanese dare not step on the island, anything otherwise is a doom for them. cheesy

You said Russia did not apply to be a permanent member of UN security council. No need of applying, it's their heritage and a deserved one at that. tongue

Imagine embarrassing yourself in public by saying Russia is being embarrassed in Ukraine... cheesy It's either you're ignorant or a kid, either one you aren't worth a second.
. Yes he's right.The invasion of Ukraine is embarrassing Russia in the eyes of the world.atleast 65% of the world are against Russia
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by BKayy: 10:46am On Mar 23, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:
Well said,true talk!.. ANOTHER ISSUE HERE IS WHY ARE THOSE EASTERN COUNTRIES RUNNING AWAY FROM RUSSIA,THEY PREFER THE WEST MORE THAN RUSSIANS.
As an Igbo man you should know first hand what Ethno-phobia means

Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by Botlord: 12:14pm On Mar 23, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:
. Yes he's right.The invasion of Ukraine is embarrassing Russia in the eyes of the world.atleast 65% of the world are against Russia
You need to be sat down and tutored.

So 65% being against Russia equate embarrassment?? shocked

I drop my pen, it's not for replying inconsequential people... smiley

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by jumper524(m): 1:38pm On Mar 23, 2022
joyandfaith:


Thank for this!!! US doesn't invade a sovereign nation like what Russia is doing in Ukraine and like what USSR did in Afghanistan.
US has never invaded any country to effect regime change.
including gadaffi of Libya??
or their proof less invasion of Iraq And their imaginary weapon of mass destruction??
bros Nah..
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by joyandfaith: 1:58pm On Mar 23, 2022
jumper524:
including gadaffi of Libya??
or their proof less invasion of Iraq And their imaginary weapon of mass destruction??
bros Nah..

US doesn't invade a sovereign nation like what Russia is doing
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by jumper524(m): 2:03pm On Mar 23, 2022
joyandfaith:


US doesn't invade a sovereign nation like what Russia is doing
but you said they don't invade to effect regime change.
What did they do in Libya when they killed Gaddafi? Or when jfk claimed sedan Hussein has weapon of mass destruction to invade Iraq till date no proof.

Us did threatened to nuke cuba because they became allies with Russia. IF Russia we're adamant or cuba president was as stupid as zelenesky, the story might have been different today.
Read history

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Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by VOICEofORIENTAL: 2:12pm On Mar 23, 2022
Botlord:

You need to be sat down and tutored.

So 65% being against Russia equate embarrassment?? shocked

I drop my pen, it's not for replying inconsequential people... smiley
Consequential man go & recall those 7000 airport workers that lost their jobs in Russia.
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by joyandfaith: 3:32pm On Mar 23, 2022
jumper524:
but you said they don't invade to effect regime change.
What did they do in Libya when they killed Gaddafi? Or when jfk claimed sedan Hussein has weapon of mass destruction to invade Iraq till date no proof.

Us did threatened to nuke cuba because they became allies with Russia. IF Russia we're adamant or cuba president was as stupid as zelenesky, the story might have been different today.
Read history

US did not kill Gaddafi. US did not kill Saddam. US joined rebel groups in those countries.
US did not invade Cuba. It used economic sanctions to deal with cuba. Blockade.
Re: Ukraine Vs Russia:lies Against The West by Vicotex1: 3:47pm On Mar 23, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:
. Yes he's right.The invasion of Ukraine is embarrassing Russia in the eyes of the world.atleast 65% of the world are against Russia
US and allies are not half of the world or 65% as you said.

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