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| Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by rottennaija(m): 3:37pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1512804018220937228.html https://twitter.com/tiffin1963/status/1512804018220937228 Before the war started, Zelenskyy refused an offer for peace. Russia required 3 things; 1) Water in Crimea: no water was destroying the economy there. 2) Minsk 2 imposed: peace for the people of Donbas, within Ukraine, but greater autonomy. 3) Ukraine to remain neutral: no NATO. Liberal discussion of 'sovereignty' in a world of Great Power Geopolitics is fair, but pointless. In the world we actually live in, rather than the world we'd like to live in, there are plenty of reasons for Russia to have taken this position. Read this. https://www.defensepriorities.org/explainers/to-prevent-war-and-secure-ukraine-make-ukraine-neutral Zelenskyy actually increased the provocation against Russia in January 2022 by; 1) Intensifying the bombardment of Donbas 2) Threatening to retake Crimea 3) A group of Republican congressmen intended to introduce a bill declaring Ukraine a NATO-plus country. The die was cast. Russia inevitably invaded. The important questions are; 1) Why did Zelenskyy increase provocations when Biden said "Putin has to do something"? 2) What will happen now? Zelenskyy pushed because he's a US puppet, a tool in the Great Game that's been played for 100's of years. The latest iteration of the Game has of course been planned for some while. US sponsorship of the 2014 coup; the training and arming of a huge army of 600,000 led by ultra nationalists; ignoring the horrors of Donbas. These and many other clues are there, questions to answer. The plan was made public in late 2021 when Elbridge A. Colby published The Strategy of Denial: American Defense in an Age of Great Power Conflict. The Great plan was for a moral proxy war. Support for the little nation whose sovereignty had been impinged. This would justify an endless supply of arms to fight Russia, coming from some of the wealthiest nations in the world. The clincher? Not a drop of US or European blood will be spilt, other than Ukranian, and the nationalists wanted it. The US could fight to the last Ukranian. The Great Game isn't really Russia, they are a small, though important player. A collapsed nation and neo-liberal reconstruction would be very profitable of course. All those lovely commodities. Yum yum! No, the real target is China. They're the US global peer competitor. By most every economic metric China has surpassed, or is about to surpass, the US. China are also the second largest military spender. The US retain one important power, control over the global financial system, bringing the benefits of a reserve currency and one more thing. The power to decide against whom, why, how, and when to impose sanctions. As president Woodrow Wilson said of sanctions, “Apply this economic, peaceful, silent, deadly remedy and there will be no need for force.” Whoever controls sanctions controls the world.
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| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by rottennaija(m): 3:39pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
This brings us on to the real reason the US is acting against Russia now, why Zelenskyy pushed on to the inevitable consequence. China is in the process of forming an alternative global financial system. They already have an alternative to SWIFT, the interbank payment system. What is worse, from a US perspective, Chinese currency is more solid, has greater value. Its been argued many times the US dollar is propped up by being the reserve currency, by people holding dollars, else its vast QE programme and huge public spending deficit would haunt it. China has no QE programme, no deficit, in fact it has huge reserves and a massive economy. In short, if the Chinese global financial system took over, if ever more banks join and use CIPS rather than SWIFT, the US has had it. It becomes what Britian drifted into. A sad island dreaming of a glorious past and lost opportunities. Why? Because the US would no longer be able to impose sanctions. So, China must be stopped and Russia via Ukraine is the first step. Next, this little nation with her sovereignty impinged strategy will be Taiwan. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by rottennaija(m): 3:51pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
In the world of Great Power Politics China will be provoked to act as Russia did, by force of arms, when Taiwan declare independence. That begins my answer to question two, what next? The US is shocked that Russia is winning the war against an army 3 times its size. Very soon Russia will have achieved its objectives, a buffer zone, water to Crimea and peace in Donbas. They will withdraw and invite the UN to come in and keep the peace. Ukraine will have lost hugely. Crimea, Donbas and perhaps more will not be autonomous Ukrainian. They will be independent states of the Russian Federation. Ukraine will also be neutral. Its clear NATO have no intention of fighting Russia directly, so they will drop the provocation when Russia achieve their aims an withdraw. But the US has now over reached. There will be consequences. The worst one, from a US perspective, they have actually sped up the alternative global financial system. Russia has been forced to trade outside of the dollar and nations are buying. Gas, oil, wheat, fertiliser, etc, all commodities the world needs. Russia has also backed its currency with gold at a guaranteed price, how long before the Yuan joins suit? What is more, most nations of the world didn't sanction Russia. They might bide their time before risking the wrath of the US by buying oil etc. in roubles, but they will. They will want to get their national reserves out of dollars after watching on in horror as Russian reserves were seized. They'll prefer a Chinese 'law based system' to US whims in a 'rule based system'. All they need is confidence. Unfortunately, this increases tensions. The US will now be in a hurry in this race against time. As in the case of Pakistan and the removal of Khan, it will want to show little nations of the world it's still the big bully in town. She will want to frighten them from daring to use roubles and CIPS. Worse yet. This will push forward the Taiwan provocation. That's why Australia, New Zealand, South Korea and and Japan were invited to the NATO ministers meeting over the past two days. They will be getting the heads up over Taiwan. The notable thing of this meeting is India's absence. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by rottennaija(m): 3:52pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
Modi has clearly thrown his lot in with China and Russia, so he was snubbed, despite being a key member of the soon to be defunct Quad. China and Russia are aware of the plan, which explains why Russia made such excellent preparations against the harshest ever sanctions. How they will counter the Taiwan provocation? Will President Tsai have second thoughts now she saw the consequences in Ukraine? How quickly will trade transfer to CIPS? These are the questions for Crystal balls. But the answers hold the question to all our futures, to WWIII. You got this far, thank you for your perseverance. Please take four and a half minutes more and listen to this. This was for thr invasion of Iraq, but it still resonates. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spDVtIzMeJU 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by VictorUSA(m): 3:52pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
The yuan can not easily take over dollars as larger number of investors are used to the dollar not yuan.The talks to dethrone dollar have raged unsuccessfully for years.SWIFT is the only option for many banks around the globe so finding an alternitive will not be an easy fit to achieve as many banks are not familiar with the chinese alternitive. |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by rottennaija(m): 4:02pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
VictorUSA: Watch this. This process has already begun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzgcjGlO6rs |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by VictorUSA(m): 4:08pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
rottennaija:Forget those crap you watch.The end of US have been raging for years and till today, the US keeps getting stronger and stronger. |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by rottennaija(m): 4:16pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
VictorUSA: It seems you are emotionally so attached to us that you are really detached from reality. Do you know the US is still buying oil and fertiliser from Russia? Do you know the Ruble has regard it's loses? 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by VictorUSA(m): 4:19pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
rottennaija:I know all these.That ruble regained its loses means what to? |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by rottennaija(m): 4:21pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
VictorUSA: Why do think that is? |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by VictorUSA(m): 4:28pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
rottennaija:The ruble bounce back doesn't build the falling economy.There are consequences still coming.The effect of those sanctions are long term, when they start biting real hard, we'll know. |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by rottennaija(m): 4:44pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
VictorUSA: So in short, you don't know why the Ruble recovered. Wasn't Biden bragging of how Ruble has fallen when the sanction hit? 2 Likes |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by plaindealer: 4:52pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
lol @ PoutISTANS still cryying fowl and peddling PoTin propaganda... Your propaganda can not change he fact that your kremlin oga failed woefully and Ukrain defeated them on the battlefield... pOutin is a loser and Russians are also losers, den go begin line up for bread rations very soon.. poUtin is a failure.. |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by rottennaija(m): 5:20pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
plaindealer: Lol where is this one coming from? 1 Like |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by rottennaija(m): 5:21pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
VictorUSA: https://blogs.imf.org/2021/05/05/us-dollar-share-of-global-foreign-exchange-reserves-drops-to-25-year-low/
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| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by plaindealer: 5:59pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
rottennaija: Definitely not from failed, dumb and foolish pouTin's ass like his pouTistan fans.. This is your oga's failure in Ukraine when the coward was running out of Kyiv, They got incinerated like Suya by Ukraine. 
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| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by aribisala0(m): 6:28pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
VictorUSA:The dollar has not been in that position for 100 years and it will not last another 100. Countries will now seek how to proof their economies against dollar domination and sanctions The emergence of cryptocurrencies is just one step on the journey .Technology will emerge to create currency that no one country can control.It is only a matter of time The simple truth is that as bad as Buhari has been some of our problem is down to using the dollar as reserve. What do we buy from the US why do we need to use dollars as reserve currency? If we insist on selling our oil and gas in Naira that would help us Imagine a situation where Naira has moved from $1 for 70 kobo to $1 for 500 Naira in less than 40 years and we believe that is just market dynamics and trade. Essentially the US uses the dollar to export inflation while importing jobs and capital Our reserves serve as Capital. CHEAP Capital for the US economy while our own interest rates are through the roof Interest rate in Nigeria is 20% or more. Can we ever make progress with that. Let us keep our reserves IN NIGERIAN BANKS and adopt a strategy to SANCTION PROOF our economy. Selling our oil and gas in Naira is a good place to start. Moving $30 billion of foreign reserves to Nigerian band will not hurt us. Let the CBN start buying gold and lets us control the mining and export of gold. We do not have to confront America but nearly 40 years of dollarization has not brough the touted benefits 2 Likes |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by rottennaija(m): 8:03pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
aribisala0: Thinking of the possibility of selling our oil (not just our oil, our economy is commodity driven) in naira then I saw this from someone on twitter "That would destroy the wealth of the western nations .they would rather destroy us than allow that happen" And I agree. What we need is to gradually build a buffer for our economy. We need to start holding reserves of other foreign countries (Russia, China, Euros). At least limit our exposure to the dollars by say 40%. Our reserve should be say 60% dollars, 30% yuan and 10% rubble or thereabout because we are living in a time of great shift. Globalisation is over and having our reserve 100% dollars is going to expose us to great risk. Once countries start dumping the dollars, its going to be a free fall and any country holding is be at a loss. |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by aribisala0(m): 8:36pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
rottennaija:Are we not destroyed already? Wetin remain? Your formula of 60 30 10 is just guesswork with no objective basis. The first step is to recognize what needs to be done and plan for it yes we should diversify away from dollars whether it is 100 : 0 or another formula is a technical detail The koko is that most of our trade is with China and that is where to start why are we using dollars to trade with China? In the Seventies and under Abacha our currency was stable because we had Capital controls We need to get back to SOME of that. We were promised liberalizing would bring capital. Where is it? We cannot trade competitively with the West and should focus on Africa with an aim to become a reserve currency for African countries . We need to externalize our military posture across Africa to back this up 1 Like |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by VictorUSA(m): 9:32pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
rottennaija:does this mean that dollar cannot regain its status? |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by Betscoreodds: 9:36pm On Apr 10, 2022 |
Absolute power currupts..... Let pray Russia wins USA. 1 Like |
| Re: Before The War Started, Zelenskyy Refused An Offer For Peace. by rottennaija(m): 7:00am On Apr 11, 2022 |
VictorUSA:The US is on the decline. Take away their dollar hegemony and the US cannot wage a single war because they are so indebted. The trust in the dollars is gone, every country knows it after they weaponize it. Many countries were already aware of the US exporting inflation to other countries whenever they print the dollars but with ability to steal another countries reserve? The trust is gone. First it was Afghanistan and now Russia, the best any country can do for itself is to stay away from the dollars. It may take time, but surely. With the digital yuan, forget it, the dollar is done for. |
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