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Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by newwater: 9:13pm On Apr 14, 2022
We need peace in the world
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by EasternSWboyz: 9:20pm On Apr 14, 2022
The Nukes were already deployed. Russian nukes can reach any of the baltic nations, without even physically deploying them. Those words are just mere politics of fear and intimidation.

You have to tell a bully No at a certain stage in your life. Russia wants a Nuclear war ? Let it have it !!! It doesn't mean Russia would be immune to Nuclear weapons fired from other nations. That's the reason for the MAD (
mutually assured destruction ) doctrine.
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by colonelwealth(m): 9:21pm On Apr 14, 2022
[quote author=Idaytesj29 post=111952531]

You said it like the Russian Federation has never achieved any development for herself in the field of tech.

The Russians are the first to reach the surface of the moon. They have space station till date, they build their own military ammos themselves, they have had nukes since the second world war. They are among the only for nations of the world to develop and store supersonic missiles.

You and I are free to hype, love and hero praise the west and the US all they, but the Russians are no bluffs.

Lastly, I am not one that will keep talking about a problem without saying anything about how it will be solved.

The solution to this problem is for the UN to play her role, and set up a peace meeting between Russia and Ukraine. Without any NATO member state or any state that -as taken sides in this ongoing conflict.

Let a cease fire agreement be reached to stop civilian casualties and the re demarcation of Ukraine to return native Russians in the country back to their main state of Russia.
After, this is done, Russia must be made to sign an agreement to fund the reconstruction of Ukraine.

Lastly, if the world want lasting peace, if we don't want a third world war and if we are serious about the disarmament of countries armed with nuclear weapons. An organisation like NATO should be disbanded. We cannot claim to want peace will we keep joining an organisation whose sole aim is to fight war. If not, the US led deliberate expansion of the organization towards the east of Europe should halted, suspended and never revisited again.

USA should also reduce the rate at which she interfere with regional crisis that has no direct concern to her. If she needs to do that, it should be done through the UN using the General Assembly votes or a vote from the UN Security Council. How many times have we seen the Russian meddling in the affairs of the states of North America or south America. US should do to other states what she can also accept from other states.

The way the world is being run at the moment, we are close to a third world war. And it may be the end of mankind or half of world population will be gone in a flash.





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You are knowledge.
Unfortunately, some Nigerians especially on Nairaland here are gullible & lack understand of the times.
See them praise US&NATO who are the chief manipulators.
NATO is an evil organization with no good to the world, their sole aim to wage wars against Nations,govts&people they dislike or those who refuse their manipulations.

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Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by gamechanger547: 9:33pm On Apr 14, 2022
richeeyo:
USA invaded Iraq during the time of Saddam, when Iraq was the 4th largest army in world, his army,airforce ,was conquered in 4days
No threat of nuke against Iraq then
The Almighty Russia they threaten countries that don't even rank 25th in the world with Nukes grin grin
At this point The west would make sure Russia is behind the world 30years
How many of you have ever held a made in Russia product.
Russia is has been leaving in the soviet era glory
Honestly without nukes
Those Yankees and their marines can take over Moscow in a week
Small small now!

Invasion of Iraq.
The 2003 invasion of Iraq[a] was the first stage of the Iraq War . The invasion phase began on 19 March 2003 (air) and 20 March 2003 (ground) and lasted just over one month, [24] including 26 days of major combat operations, in which a combined force of troops from the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia and Poland invaded Iraq . 22 days after the first day of the invasion, the capital city of Baghdad was captured by Coalition forces on 9 April 2003 after the six day long Battle of Baghdad. This early stage of the war formally ended on 1 May 2003 when U.S. President George W. Bush declared the "end of major combat operations"

Facts

As per this very war, 4 countries invaded Iraq not only US.

Iraq had earlier fought a full scale war with Iran for 8 years and is military weak.

Iraq imports most of its weapons while Ukraine manufactures most of its weapons.

Over 30 countries are pumping weapons and other supplies to Ukraine and training and commanding it troops, while Iraq do not have such support.

Dissidents and sabotage groups within Iraq military and citizens worked with the US from inside and outside Iraq to make it easier.

Only Iraq republican guards really fought against US and it's allies as most commanding officers had physically received dollars in cash and simply told their troops to drop weapons and go home.

As per Russian products: It's available all over eastern Europe, part of western Europe, Asia, Cuba, Venezuela etc. They're not in most African countries because of western strategies to keep them out of the global market and economy.

Let me say that the only country to ever use an atomic weapon on another country is the United States of America who used it on Japan to prevent huge casualties on their side during WW2. No other Country have used it ever since.

Crosscheck facts as no country in the world can capture Moscow in a year not to talk of a week.
Why do you think the US and Russia military avoid each other? They will over kill each other if war starts between them.

Russia mentioning nuclear weapons is not due to fear but to balance the odds. How will US and 30 other Nato countries go to war with only Russia? why not one at a time? Why is US and Nato, Japan, south Korea etc given weapons and other supplies and allowing volunteers from all over the world to fight on Ukraine side and then threatening China and other countries telling them not to support Russia or supply them anything?

By the time this war ends, the world and United Nations will be changed forever.

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Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Idaytesj29(m): 9:33pm On Apr 14, 2022
[quote author=colonelwealth post=111953352][/quote]

Thanks bro. You said it right. What else can we expect from race that had always been manipulated and exploited generations over generations and still refuse to see it. But will continue to praise their oppressors and manipulators.

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Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Akummili: 9:34pm On Apr 14, 2022
Let them deploy it most especially in Finland , so that Simeon Ekpa will come back to Nigeria grin grin

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Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by JOemmy(m): 9:43pm On Apr 14, 2022
Ohislee:
If US truly wants world peace, they should start by disbanding all military alliances like NATO.

Military alliance are like cult groups. An attack on one is an attack all and this is a threat to non members of such alliance.

As an individual, I don't know how you will feel if your next door neighbour, joins a deadly cult group that are your one time enemy. This means, they can start having their meetings next door. The slightest misunderstanding with your neighbour, becomes a misunderstanding with the entire cult group. I believe this is what Russian is trying to avoid.

Aside this, cult groups give rise to other cult group. Most people join this groups for protection. This can also be said for military alliances. It would give rise to rival military alliance.

NATO is a cult. Russian is within their right to defend itself from cultist.


Why should russia be scared of its neighbors joining nato if they themselves don't have evil intentions against their neighbors?

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Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by gamechanger547: 9:54pm On Apr 14, 2022
richeeyo:
USA invaded Iraq during the time of Saddam, when Iraq was the 4th largest army in world, his army,airforce ,was conquered in 4days
No threat of nuke against Iraq then
The Almighty Russia they threaten countries that don't even rank 25th in the world with Nukes grin grin
At this point The west would make sure Russia is behind the world 30years
How many of you have ever held a made in Russia product.
Russia is has been leaving in the soviet era glory
Honestly without nukes
Those Yankees and their marines can take over Moscow in a week
The first Gulf war( over 35 countries attacked Iraq not only US) check the numbers of days despite the 35 Nations.

The Gulf War[b] was an armed campaign waged by a United States-led coalition of 35 nations against Iraq in response to the Iraqi invasion and annexation of Kuwait . It was codenamed Operation Desert Shield (2 August 1990 – 17 January 1991) during the pre-combat buildup of troops and the defense of Saudi Arabia , and Operation Desert Storm (17 January 1991 – 28 February 1991) during its combat phase.
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by saintadeola: 10:29pm On Apr 14, 2022
Foolish comments, how did USA conquer Iraq in four days,,the let USA invade Russia den
richeeyo:
USA invaded Iraq during the time of Saddam, when Iraq was the 4th largest army in world, his army,airforce ,was conquered in 4days
No threat of nuke against Iraq then
The Almighty Russia they threaten countries that don't even rank 25th in the world with Nukes grin grin
At this point The west would make sure Russia is behind the world 30years
How many of you have ever held a made in Russia product.
Russia is has been leaving in the soviet era glory
Honestly without nukes
Those Yankees and their marines can take over Moscow in a week
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by REALretep(m): 10:31pm On Apr 14, 2022
Ohislee:
If US truly wants world peace, they should start by disbanding all military alliances like NATO.

Military alliance are like cult groups. An attack on one is an attack all and this is a threat to non members of such alliance.

As an individual, I don't know how you will feel if your next door neighbour, joins a deadly cult group that are your one time enemy. This means, they can start having their meetings next door. The slightest misunderstanding with your neighbour, becomes a misunderstanding with the entire cult group. I believe this is what Russian is trying to avoid.

Aside this, cult groups give rise to other cult group. Most people join this groups for protection. This can also be said for military alliances. It would give rise to rival military alliance.

NATO is a cult. Russian is within their right to defend itself from cultist.
If your elder brother is a bully and constantly shows aggression towards you and your other brothers, you will definitely not think twice about joining a cult to protect yourself against him.
Since Russia is a bully, the surrounding weak nations have every justification to seek NATO protection

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Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by greatness77: 10:44pm On Apr 14, 2022
richeeyo:
USA invaded Iraq during the time of Saddam, when Iraq was the 4th largest army in world, his army,airforce ,was conquered in 4days
No threat of nuke against Iraq then
The Almighty Russia they threaten countries that don't even rank 25th in the world with Nukes grin grin
At this point The west would make sure Russia is behind the world 30years
How many of you have ever held a made in Russia product.
Russia is has been leaving in the soviet era glory
Honestly without nukes
Those Yankees and their marines can take over Moscow in a week
shut up stop saying what u dont know, why didnt usa go alone? Which gulf war are u refering? is it d one dat usa,franc,germany,uk and 35 nations fought against only iraq for one year or d one dat usa,britain,france and 14 countries fought agnst sadams body guard and some islamic militant group dat has no airforce? Iraqi forces didnt fight 2nd gulf war nawa oooo!!!
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by NairaMaster1(m): 10:55pm On Apr 14, 2022
richeeyo:
USA invaded Iraq during the time of Saddam, when Iraq was the 4th largest army in world, his army,airforce ,was conquered in 4days
No threat of nuke against Iraq then
The Almighty Russia they threaten countries that don't even rank 25th in the world with Nukes grin grin
At this point The west would make sure Russia is behind the world 30years
How many of you have ever held a made in Russia product.
Russia is has been leaving in the soviet era glory
Honestly without nukes
Those Yankees and their marines can take over Moscow in a week

Russia has one of the weakest military in the world.
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Techguy96(m): 11:13pm On Apr 14, 2022
Ohislee:
If US truly wants world peace, they should start by disbanding all military alliances like NATO.

Military alliance are like cult groups. An attack on one is an attack all and this is a threat to non members of such alliance.

As an individual, I don't know how you will feel if your next door neighbour, joins a deadly cult group that are your one time enemy. This means, they can start having their meetings next door. The slightest misunderstanding with your neighbour, becomes a misunderstanding with the entire cult group. I believe this is what Russian is trying to avoid.

Aside this, cult groups give rise to other cult group. Most people join this groups for protection. This can also be said for military alliances. It would give rise to rival military alliance.

NATO is a cult. Russian is within their right to defend itself from cultist.
Can you listen to yourself?

First you said an attack to one is an attack to all

This will make non member group feel threaten,

Why would you go n attack one of their members in the first place?

Russia are bully jor, why did they start the war in 2014, there was no talk of Ukraine joining NATO then.
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Techguy96(m): 11:15pm On Apr 14, 2022
Idaytesj29:


Thanks bro. You said it right. What else can we expect from race that had always been manipulated and exploited generations over generations and still refuse to see it. But will continue to praise their oppressors and manipulators.
I bet u are a christian or Muslim tho.
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Idaytesj29(m): 11:20pm On Apr 14, 2022
Techguy96:

I bet u are a christian or Muslim tho.

Religion is the opium of the masses. Believe but don't be dogmatic. Worship, but use your brain.
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Techguy96(m): 11:22pm On Apr 14, 2022
Idaytesj29:


Religion is the opium of the masses. Believe but don't be dogmatic. Worship, but use your brain.
Lol clown, what exactly are you believing and worshipping?
Same god brought to you be your oppressor
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by ocelot2006(m): 11:29pm On Apr 14, 2022
omis1:
the ukraine people with d support of usa overthrew a pootin puppet,zelensky approval rating has increased for a reason in ukraine since d war started.
Pootin fan boys think they know better than Ukrainians who were against d former puppet president

Putin puppet or not, he was still a democratically elected President of Ukraine before his forceful overthrow.
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Idaytesj29(m): 11:59pm On Apr 14, 2022
Techguy96:

[/s]Lol clown[s], what exactly are you believing and worshipping?
Same god brought to you be your oppressor

Make your straight comment. Be matured. At least pretend to be.
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Cousin9999: 12:24am On Apr 15, 2022
They won't do sh**.
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by omis1(m): 3:36am On Apr 15, 2022
ocelot2006:


Putin puppet or not, he was still a democratically elected President of Ukraine before his forceful overthrow.
he should remain president even though it’s against ukraine people wish? U pootin fanboys and ur ridiculous takes
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Ishilove: 4:44am On Apr 15, 2022
From Russia, with love.

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Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by femarse: 6:40am On Apr 15, 2022
Germi9:

The Kalashinkov is definitely made in Russia shocked
And you bought one in the market yesterday
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Obafavour(m): 7:02am On Apr 15, 2022
REALretep:
If your elder brother is a bully and constantly shows aggression towards you and your other brothers, you will definitely not think twice about joining a cult to protect yourself against him.
Since Russia is a bully, the surrounding weak nations have every justification to seek NATO protection
You constantly shout bully bully, where exactly do you hear russia bullying his fellow brothers? Or it was his brothers who are brainwashed by the promise of some stupid set of strangers.

The troops and weapon sent to them everyday, who is still on the loosing side? And zelenskyy brain is not telling him that they are fooling him. Putin will just keep laughing him everyday for zelenskyy stupidity.

Or is it because china and north korean are still keeping quiet?

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Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Obafavour(m): 7:05am On Apr 15, 2022
NairaMaster1:


Russia has one of the weakest military in the world.
You're such a fool, NATO are in support of ukraine and russia is still on the winning side.

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Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Awoleesu(m): 7:18am On Apr 15, 2022
Idaytesj29:


You said it like the Russian Federation has never achieved any development for herself in the field of tech, thats why I put it to you like that.

The Russians are the first to reach the surface of the moon. They have space station till date, they build their own military ammos, fighter jets, war ships, etc themselves, they have had nukes since the second world war. They are among the only four nations of the world to develop and store supersonic missiles. And she is a permanent member of the UN Security Council.

You and I are free to hype, love and hero praise the west and the US all day, but the Russians my friend, are no bluffs.

Lastly, I am not one that will keep talking about a problem without saying anything about how it can be solved.

The solution to this problem is for the UN to play her role and be allowed to play it. There is need to set up a peace meeting between Russia and Ukraine. Without any NATO member state or any state that has taken sides in this ongoing conflict being a member a especially the US.

Let a cease fire agreement be reached to stop civilian casualties and the re demarcation of Ukraine to return native Russians in the country back to their main state of Russia.
After, this is done, Russia must be made to sign an agreement to fund the reconstruction of Ukraine.

Lastly, if the world want a lasting peace, if we don't want a third world war and if we are serious about the disarmament of countries armed with nuclear weapons. An organisation like NATO should be disbanded. We cannot claim to want peace while we keep joining an organisation whose sole aim is to fight war. If not, the US led deliberate expansion of NATO towards the East of Europe should be halted, suspended and never revisited again.

USA should also reduce the rate at which she interfere with regional affairs or crisis that has no direct concern to her. If she needs to do that, it should be done through the UN using the General Assembly votes or a vote from the UN Security Council. How many times have we seen or hear about the Russian meddling strongly in the affairs of the states of North America or south America. US should do to other states what she can also accept from other states if same is done to her.

The way the world is being run at the moment, we are close to a third world war. And it may be the end of mankind or half of world population will just be gone in a flash.





Too many conditional clauses from an odealist!

I appreciate your recommendations sha, but do you know the world doesn't work that way?
You need a little dash of reckoning in international relations/diplomacy to understand that some of your postulations are not exactly correct!

For instance, what you said about Russia is just about facts vs truths. Yes, Russia is not a bluff I agree, but if may borrow your own word... I think she's "hyping" her status!

Since the WW2 you quoted (post war era), all the active participants (allies and axis) have gone back to re-strategize against a possible future aggression. Some, like US and Russia are loud about their achievements in military sophistication while others like Iran, Germany, China are covert about theirs... So, Russia, nay Putin should not make the costly mistake of arrogating an exclusive super power to himself because with the exception of African nations, every other country too are not sleeping! And make no mistakes about the deceptive mien of some of these nations, they can always pull up warfare surprises...in deed, they always do!

Not very many people remember that the first specimen of devastating mass explosive was invented in Sweden. Before that time, Great Britain thought she had it all militarily... Does this drop you a cue?
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Gbadespet(m): 7:36am On Apr 15, 2022
CoronaVirusPro:
Russia be sounding like its the only country that got nuclear weapons

Very quick to mention nuclear weapon knowing the military is a joke grin grin grin

Any little thing, Putin is already screaming "NUKES"

Struggling impoverished military


Even Putin has abused the word "NUKES" It will become a norm someday that nations will ask him to do his worst. Any small issue, he starts shouting nukes.






Nation like Nigeria bah,USA is the main root of this war,let them mind their business and there will be peace in Ukraine and it's environs....
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by benqo01(m): 8:18am On Apr 15, 2022
Is like Russia is mad.....Lol that nuke they have is giving them the boldness to make decisions for other countries.

Finland and Sweden will join NATO I repeat nothing will happen.
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by benqo01(m): 8:23am On Apr 15, 2022
Some of you supporting Russia ain't seeing the clearer picture here,u see those countries like Sweden and Finland they don't make noise very calm,but them go follow you drag am to the very end

This life no b by noise because u get one Nukes...u can never tell what you opponents gots for you
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by Jacopini: 8:49am On Apr 15, 2022
JosephXavier:


The aggressor here is NATO and it's clear that the blind can see that

What is the reason for NATO when there is UN Peace Keeping?

Can you in a short note describe the reason behind NATO formation and what they have achieved

Nato is a defensive organization
Dat y u hear tins like (u attack one, u attack all).
Hv u heard nato invading oda country fr land grab, or bcuz dey feel threatened (like russia).

Russia is shouting nato, hv u heard of Csto(of wich russia is a member).

Am nt a nato propagandist, u want dere achievement, google it.

Check d characteristics of an aggressor, don't just follow russia so blindly, out of blind love.

Nato is not an organization of saint, buh Russia killing people of anoda land becus det so freely choose who to associate wit is what..?

If my neighbor na thief, i go raise my fence higher, nd my doors lockd(dat wat countries around Russia ar doing) . Mention one neighbor of Russia dat has nt lost land to Russia?
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by rukis360(m): 9:38am On Apr 15, 2022
Ohislee:
If US truly wants world peace, they should start by disbanding all military alliances like NATO.

Military alliance are like cult groups. An attack on one is an attack all and this is a threat to non members of such alliance.

As an individual, I don't know how you will feel if your next door neighbour, joins a deadly cult group that are your one time enemy. This means, they can start having their meetings next door. The slightest misunderstanding with your neighbour, becomes a misunderstanding with the entire cult group. I believe this is what Russian is trying to avoid.

Aside this, cult groups give rise to other cult group. Most people join this groups for protection. This can also be said for military alliances. It would give rise to rival military alliance.

NATO is a cult. Russian is within their right to defend itself from cultist.
In a bid to sound smart you forgot to include nato is a defensive alliance meaning you attack a member state first den the whole alliance attacks u in return, that sounds good to me

Why should Russia or anyone feel threatened if dy don't plan on attacking first as proven in recent events
Re: Russia To Finland, Sweden: We Will Deploy Nukes To The Baltics If You Join NATO by REALretep(m): 11:37am On Apr 15, 2022
Obafavour:

You constantly shout bully bully, where exactly do you hear russia bullying his fellow brothers? Or it was his brothers who are brainwashed by the promise of some stupid set of strangers.

The troops and weapon sent to them everyday, who is still on the loosing side? And zelenskyy brain is not telling him that they are fooling him. Putin will just keep laughing him everyday for zelenskyy stupidity.

Or is it because china and north korean are still keeping quiet?
It is easy for you to stay in the comfort of your room and castigate the entire learned populations of Europe and Russia's neighbours as brainwashed.
You are waiting to hear or see in the news where Russia bullied her neighbours before you see Russia as a bully.
If Russia wasn't a bully, she would have found ways to entice the weaker surrounding nations to tilt towards her and not to go the usual bully way of aggression

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