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Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by ken6488(m): 4:03pm On Apr 17, 2022
Ukraine won't give up Donbas to end Russia’s war.

President Volodymyr Zelensky told CNN that Ukraine is prepared to defend Donbas against Russian forces in a battle he says could influence the course of the entire war.
Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by VictorUSA(m): 4:14pm On Apr 17, 2022
This is the President with balls.Putin must not win this war.
Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by baralatie(m): 4:32pm On Apr 17, 2022
Very funny!
The Donbass that is in Russia's control

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by Nobody: 4:33pm On Apr 17, 2022
Whatever. Russia's mad
Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by baralatie(m): 4:35pm On Apr 17, 2022
Sweetplum:
Whatever. Russia's mad
That is why you don't elect a man like zelensky who wants to go to war with Russia.
Is zelensky not mental

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by Nobody: 4:41pm On Apr 17, 2022
baralatie:

That is why you don't elect a man like zelensky who wants to go to war with Russia.
Is zelensky not mental
You and Putin are mentally unstable.
You two should be in a cele church chopping broom & candle drops daily.
Putin that you backed dislikes humanity & common sense. If you or Putin had one, you ll know that war isn't the solution to life's problems. There's diplomatic punishment that can be done. He couldn't function with his brain cos he has nukes. Nukes ll finish. Those who made them ll perish. Nations go, nations come but God's people remains.
Putin ll end like you, just die tue!
Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by ken6488(m): 4:43pm On Apr 17, 2022
Sweetplum:
You and Putin are mentally unstable.
You two should be in a cele church chopping broom & candle drops daily.
Putin that you backed dislikes humanity & common sense. If you or Putin had one, you ll know that war isn't the solution to life's problems. There's diplomatic punishment that can be done. He could function with his brain cos he has nukes. Nukes ll finish. Those who made them ll perish. Nations go, nations come but God's people remains.
Putin ll end like you, just die tue!
Actually Putin wanted too negotiate

Hence Ukraine has not be attacked since 2014


After negotiations failed


Military is the last option

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by baralatie(m): 4:47pm On Apr 17, 2022
Sweetplum:
You and Putin are mentally unstable.
You two should be in a cele church chopping broom & candle drops daily.
Putin that you backed dislikes humanity & common sense. If you or Putin had one, you ll know that war isn't the solution to life's problems. There's diplomatic punishment that can be done. He could function with his brain cos he has nukes. Nukes ll finish. Those who made them ll perish. Nations go, nations come but God's people remains.
Putin ll end like you, just die tue!
Let me ask you a simple question!
If you were the president of country like Ukraine and France,Germany and Russia told you
Sir we have a solution to the problem between Ukraine and Russia and the 8 years civil war!
The solution is grant the dobass self autonomy but they will be under Ukraine(if you want).Remove your military from the region and remove NATO ambition from your constitution and join EU(Russia does not mind)
Will you call Putin a mad man and tell him if it is war that he wants that war is what he is going to get?
All because of NATO

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by baralatie(m): 4:48pm On Apr 17, 2022
ken6488:

Actually Putin wanted too negotiate

Hence Ukraine has not be attacked since 2014


After negotiations failed


Military is the last option
I have told him the negotiation.i want to see his reaction
Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by baralatie(m): 4:53pm On Apr 17, 2022
Zelensky should just forget about Donbass!
He missed that door looking ago

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by Nobody: 5:33pm On Apr 17, 2022
ken6488:

Actually Putin wanted too negotiate

Hence Ukraine has not be attacked since 2014


After negotiations failed


Military is the last option
Military was his last option cos he believed he has superior power. Don't call white black for me & the majority of sane people worldwide. The war was needless and you all ll cry for Putin & blame him soon.
He can do his worst and nuke the whole world. The Ukrainians won't die twice!
Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by ken6488(m): 5:38pm On Apr 17, 2022
Sweetplum:

Military was his last option cos he believed he has superior power. Don't call white black for me & the majority of sane people worldwide. The war was needless and you all ll cry for Putin & blame him soon.
He can do his worst and nuke the whole world. The Ukrainians won't die twice!
Like I said military was the last option

Ukraine over estimated American support they thought USA military will be involved

Wanting to join NATO is the last option

This war has been going on since 2014


We are just in the end game

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by Nobody: 5:38pm On Apr 17, 2022
baralatie:

Let me ask you a simple question!
If you were the president of country like Ukraine and France,Germany and Russia told you
Sir we have a solution to the problem between Ukraine and Russia and the 8 years civil war!
The solution is grant the dobass self autonomy but they will be under Ukraine(if you want).Remove your military from the region and remove NATO ambition from your constitution and join EU(Russia does not mind)
Will you call Putin a mad man and tell him if it is war that he wants that war is what he is going to get?
All because of NATO
This isn't about NATO. Putin is using Donbass & NATO as excuse. He's a blood thirsty cat cos he has nukes. He's not different from Kim the midget of North Korea.
And lastly, war was never the solution. Putin is now a murderer of many
Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by baralatie(m): 5:40pm On Apr 17, 2022
Sweetplum:

This isn't about NATO. Putin is using Donbass & NATO as excuse. He's a blood thirsty cat cos he has nukes. He's not different from Kim the midget of North Korea.
And lastly, war was never the solution. Putin is now a murderer of many
You see yourself now!
Only answer question what you would do as a president
The same mistake of zelensky is what you have done!

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by ken6488(m): 5:44pm On Apr 17, 2022
Sweetplum:

This isn't about NATO. Putin is using Donbass & NATO as excuse. He's a blood thirsty cat cos he has nukes. He's not different from Kim the midget of North Korea.
And lastly, war was never the solution. Putin is now a murderer of many
NATO is just the major issue

The list is long Ukraine has been stepping on Russia toes for too long

Maybe they feel Russia will ignore them because they are related


No other country would try that to Russia a survive.




Killing ethnic Russians and baning Russian language, harbouring nazis ( the killed 20 millions Russia in world war 2)

Their list is too long to be accepted

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by Svlla: 5:59pm On Apr 17, 2022
Sweetplum:

Military was his last option cos he believed he has superior power. Don't call white black for me & the majority of sane people worldwide. The war was needless and you all ll cry for Putin & blame him soon.
He can do his worst and nuke the whole world. The Ukrainians won't die twice!

"War is an instrument of ill omen and should only be employed on compulsion for the preservation of state".....(Tao te ching; Lao Tzu)

But if a state must go to war then this 5 things must be examined
1. The way (the bond between the people and the leadership)
2. The terrain (the theater of aggression must be properly examined and evaluated (see 9 grounds)
3. The weather.....there is time for war and time for peace, time to sow and time to harvest
4. The leadership
5. The discipline (Sun Tzu: Art of War; Strategic Assessment)

Matter of military operation are not be taken lightly, it is the way to the preservation or destruction of a state
(Sun Tzu's Strategic assessment)

"War is inevitable, it can only be postponed to one's advantage" Niccolo Machiavelli the prince

Both the Russian and Ukrainin leadership failed to prevent this war but between the Russian and the Ukrainian who was more prepared for a war?
The Russians
Who ought to have sought peace more?
The Ukrainians, at least until they are strong enough to defend themselves

All what this conflict will bring for Ukraine is destruction and threat to their existence as a state

There no need of passing the blame both leadership failed but the Ukrainians will be the loser and that's the sad reality but the reality regardless

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by okeysoninv: 6:04pm On Apr 17, 2022
baralatie:
Very funny!
The Donbass that is in Russia's control
only 20% percentage is in Russia control
Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by Nobody: 6:10pm On Apr 17, 2022
ken6488:

Like I said military was the last option

Ukraine over estimated American support they thought USA military will be involved

Wanting to join NATO is the last option
Ukraine never over estimated American support. Where are you all getting this your lame propaganda sef?
Ukraine believed in their sovereignty cos no nation can just come n invade the other n expect east ride. Ko Jo!

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by Nobody: 6:12pm On Apr 17, 2022
baralatie:

You see yourself now!
Only answer question what you would do as a president
The same mistake of zelensky is what you have done!
I ll smack you with my wrapper. I answered your question.
And to you too.
If you were in Putin's shoes, what ll you do?
Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by ken6488(m): 6:13pm On Apr 17, 2022
Sweetplum:
Ukraine never over estimated American support. Where are you all getting this your lame propaganda sef?
Ukraine believed in their sovereignty cos no nation can just come n invade the other n expect east ride. Ko Jo!
Very funny

There is no possibility ok Ukraine wining russis

Just like saying Cuba or Mexico starting a war with USA,


War was lost in the beginning

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by Nobody: 6:16pm On Apr 17, 2022
ken6488:
Very funny

There is no possibility ok Ukraine wining russis

Just like saying Cuba or Mexico starting a war with USA,


War was lost in the beginning
Whatever. Man cannot die twice. Russia can kiss shit
Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by ken6488(m): 6:17pm On Apr 17, 2022
Sweetplum:

Whatever. Man cannot die twice. Russia can kiss shit
Thousands of lives, million of properties would have been saved

If only Ukrainian government was smart enough

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by Nobody: 6:19pm On Apr 17, 2022
ken6488:
Thousands of lives, million of properties would have been saved

If only Ukrainian government was smart enough

They were smart. Russia is a bully. Now it's targeting Finland. Putin dey ment!
Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by Opolopoopolonio: 6:26pm On Apr 17, 2022
I trust Zelenskyy.

He is gearing up to give Russia another bloody nose.

When is the Donbass operation commencing sef grin It's taking forever... grin
Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by baralatie(m): 6:36pm On Apr 17, 2022
okeysoninv:
only 20% percentage is in Russia control
Your calibrator equipment bneede reset

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by ken6488(m): 7:00pm On Apr 17, 2022
Sweetplum:

They were smart. Russia is a bully. Now it's targeting Finland. Putin dey ment!
I am not saying Russia is a saint china’s, nato, Russia and USA are all bully



But when leaving close to a super power you have to be smart, it is best you remain neural and keep peace

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by Nobody: 7:27pm On Apr 17, 2022
ken6488:
I am not saying Russia is a saint china’s, nato, Russia and USA are all bully



But when leaving close to a super power you have to be smart, it is best you remain neural and keep peace
Ok. I don't know how beat to be smart than maintaining your sovereignty.
The fact is Russia is acting like the old Mongols of Ghengis Khan era. If you offend, the invade. If you are neutral, they invade. If you surrender, they invade. If you are minding your biz, they invade. All their lives, they wanna invade & dominate.
Ask Korea in the Goryeo era.
Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by ken6488(m): 8:20pm On Apr 17, 2022
Sweetplum:

Ok. I don't know how beat to be smart than maintaining your sovereignty.
The fact is Russia is acting like the old Mongols of Ghengis Khan era. If you offend, the invade. If you are neutral, they invade. If you surrender, they invade. If you are minding your biz, they invade. All their lives, they wanna invade & dominate.
Ask Korea in the Goryeo era.

It all about national security

Even USA tried evading Cuba


We must know this


Some rules doesn't apply to supper Powers

When you stay close to one it is best you remain neutral

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by Neddstark: 9:16pm On Apr 17, 2022
VictorUSA:
This is the President with balls.Putin must not win this war.

Go to the Donbas and ensure that.

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Re: Ukraine Won't Give Up Donbas To End Russia’s War. by Neddstark: 9:20pm On Apr 17, 2022
baralatie:

You see yourself now!
Only answer question what you would do as a president
The same mistake of zelensky is what you have done!

Please stop trying to make a nincompoop become wise. It is a waste of energy

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