lexy2014:


Quality players? Please define "quality players"? Who are the quality players?

Are the present players not quality?

How does fortification automatically translate to success in CL?

donbenie:
Quality players like Dybala,Osimehn,Gabriel Jesus etc..

The present players are quality,but even Madrid are looking to buy Mbappe..

You can never have enough..

And did I hear you ask how fortification translates to success in the CL?

How many times have Norwich or Hull City won the CL?

That is your answer..

Kentuforchrist:
if Liverpool should beat Tottenham next Weeknd and arsenal win then champions league is secure for the gunners

donbenie:
Quality players like Dybala,Osimehn,Gabriel Jesus etc..

The present players are quality,but even Madrid are looking to buy Mbappe..

You can never have enough..

And did I hear you ask how fortification translates to success in the CL?

How many times have Norwich or Hull City won the CL?

That is your answer..

lexy2014:


You haven't answered the questions:

Quality players? Please define "quality players"? Who are the quality players arsenal will fortify the team with?

Are the present players not quality?

How does fortification automatically translate to success?

casppyjay:
my brother u need a proper debate the fact those players ply their trade in the championship doesn’t make them any less equivalent trust me! Because I can list more than 4 players better than bale who undoubtedly will be on ur world class list huh

Reference:


Quality is a relative term.
I will wish to define it as the ability to compete favorably, consistently and with minimum fuss.
The present Arsenal squad can become a force to reckon with but in its present state they are far off competing at the highest levels.
If they are to make an impact in next season's UCL, a major shakedown is necessary.
Some of their recent buys are real bombs, completely off the quality mark.

donbenie:
It's not a matter of potential..

It's a what have you done lately game..

Many with the potential to be the next Messi,are still playing street football..

Mbappe,Harland are where they are because of what they have done..

The Bale you are talking about..

Is it the current Bale or Bale at his best?

Because if it's Bale at his best..

I can't tell you,Madrid don't throw $80M on piss poor players..

lexy2014:


You didn't answer this question:

Please define "quality players"?

What makes the players u mentioned quality players?

Yes I asked about fortification which u haven't answered:

How does fortification automatically translate to success in CL?

Reference:


Quality is a relative term.
I will wish to define it as the ability to compete favorably, consistently and with minimum fuss.
The present Arsenal squad can become a force to reckon with but in its present state they are far off competing at the highest levels.
If they are to make an impact in next season's UCL, a major shakedown is necessary.
Some of their recent buys are real bombs, completely off the quality mark.

casppyjay:
i like I said everything it’s debatable cuz ur bale argument will continue to spark up fireworks of debate

2ndchildhood:
E be like say Arteta dey knack Tavarez sister.. why can't he drop that dude for God sake.

Afrobasic:
United fans doing some serious maths right now

donbenie:
Quality players means players that will come into your squad and improve the overall standards of the team..

Liverpool were almost THERE,until they bought Van Dijk and Alison and everything came together..

They went on to win the EPL and CL..

And are currently one of the best teams in the world..

That's what QUALITY does for you..

On to your SECOND question..

Fortification

I take you back to Liverpool..

They went to the CL finals with Karius as their goal keeper and Madrid made a mincemeat of him..

Next season they forked out BIG MONEY to buy Alisson..

And you have seen what he has been doing for them?

THAT IS FORTIFICATION!

lexy2014:


Is it the job of a player to "improve the overall standard of a team"?

If that is your definition of quality player, what was alexis Sanchez when he joined man united and what was Eden Hazard when he joined real Madrid?

The Liverpool example of fortification you have given, is it universal? Does it work everywhere and on every situation?

What makes Dybala,Osimehn,Gabriel Jesus etc.. that u mentioned earlier quality players?

donbenie:
You asked for what fortifications meant and I gave it to you..

Whether the said player comes in and perform is another issue..

But when you shell out money to buy an Mbappe or Harland..

I'm very sure you are not doing it because you like throwing money away..

Dybala has proven himself at Juventus..

His stats are there for everyone to see..

Osimehn is a young Striker who has been on an upward projectile seen the last few years..

Napoli shelled out a huge sum for him..

He's been repaying it by his output and elite teams are lining up for his signature..

Maybe those are not enough quality for you..

post=112432270:
GOOOAAAALLLL.

ARsenal score again.

1 : 2

Very Good header by Gabriel.
They have to win if they wanna be in the Top Four at the end of today.

Game on.
Arsenal in the top four? Please don't put your money on it. I've not seen a team more inconsistent in the last 3 or more years than Arsenal. They won today, thank God. Don't be surprised if they loose the next 3 matches. 1 step forward 3 steps backward team.


Oshey, dem Octopus Paul dem

lexy2014:


If quality a relative term, how then are u able to decide that some players are quality and others aren't?

What do u mean "compete favourably"?

Who are the quality players available on the planet who can "compete consistently without fuss"? How did those players get to that level?

So if u say "present state they are far off competing at the highest levels", it justifies the question that I asked earlier that "what will arsenal play in CL?"

Am sure u now see why I asked that question.

Am not sure what u mean by complete shakedown but maybe u kindly shed some light

Reference:


Relative to a Westham that is playing Europa and gave Arsenal a real fright tonight.
Then think about what happens when this team comes up against the Bayern's, PSG's and even Liverpool's of this world loaded with high quality squads experienced at that level.... except if they just want to appear in UCL for the appearance fee.

Remember this club has a pedigree.
No continental club will play them with reservation or pity.
Thus they have to be prepared.

ILoveDemMANNA:

When dem MANNA, (your oga madam) typed Gooaal for Arsenal, I no see u put ur mouth and ur head,
But na wen dem MANNA (your online nightmare) write another Goooalll for west ham, na dat one u see.
Being Willfully blind is a disease o

lexy2014:


because u told me what fortification is does that mean u can't answer the following questions?

Is it the job of a player to "improve the overall standard of a team"?

If that is your definition of quality player, what was alexis Sanchez when he joined man united and what was Eden Hazard when he joined real Madrid?

The Liverpool example of fortification you have given, is it universal? Does it work everywhere and on every situation?

Is a quality player a function of his price tag?

Whether or not he performs after buying him isn't another isuue. It is the same issue.

Which elite teams are lining up to sign osihmen? Are u talking about transfer rumours sports outfits stir up to sell or actual reality?

What are dybalas stats in this season and last that u say are there for everyone to see?

What makes Gabriel Jesus a quality player?

donbenie:
To answer your first question..

It is the job of a Coach to get players that will improve the quality of their team..

That is the very reason the rich teams wins most of the titles..

Because they can afford to buy the players they need to excel..

Look around..

The Real Madrids,Bayerns,PSGs,Liverpools and Man City of this world have one thing in common..

Money to buy their choice players..

Heck,look at Newcastle..

See what a few dollars thrown at choice players can do for you?

From the base of the EPL to the top half..

To your next question..

NOTHING in life is guaranteed..

That you bought the best does not guarantee you anything..

But it is better to cry in a Lamborghini than in a Keke NAPEP..

Why,because success is relative..

To a team like Madrid success,means winning the CL and the LA Liga..

To a team like Burnley..

Success means avoiding relegation..

That is what quality of players does for you..

To your question on Dybala..

What is Messi's Stat this season?

Compared to other seasons?

Dybala has been a central figure in Juventus dominance of Serie A for FIVE STRAIGHT SEASONS.

He's a Midfielder..

Xavi,Pirlo and Iniesta are much more than the number of goals they post in a season..

In Osimehn..

Napoli forked out around $70M to buy him..

Today his name is being linked to all the big teams in Europe and Napoli is ready to ask for much more than they bought him..

How else do you want to define quality and progress?

Gabriel Jesus may not be the best goalscorer around..

But look at the overall quality of his versatility for Man City..

Ask yourself..

How many teams are in the same league as Man City in the World?

He's a quality addition to any team not in the top echelons of Europe..

Class is permanent..

Look at Erikson at Brentford..

Just half a season due to his health issues and bigger teams are already taking note..