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Re: USA, Henry Kissinger: Ukraine Must Give Russia Territory by oluobi(m): 2:37pm On May 24, 2022
Nancy2020:
if your neighbor is doing what will kill your children in his own home then that your neighbor has no right to exist.... We all must protect our neighbor it actually in the scripture.
NATO is a war organization not a peaceful one so it has no business been near Russia. You actually should know where your right stops. You can't smoke in the public in some places why because you will endanger other people that how laws are.


Especially when you have a very powerful neighbour!

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Re: USA, Henry Kissinger: Ukraine Must Give Russia Territory by Nancy2020(f): 2:54pm On May 24, 2022
oluobi:



Especially when you have a very powerful neighbour!
very true.

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Re: USA, Henry Kissinger: Ukraine Must Give Russia Territory by okeysoninv: 3:07pm On May 24, 2022
Nancy2020:
if your neighbor is doing what will kill your children in his own home then that your neighbor has no right to exist.... We all must protect our neighbor it actually in the scripture.
NATO is a war organization not a peaceful one so it has no business been near Russia. You actually should know where your right stops. You can't smoke in the public in some places why because you will endanger other people that how laws are.
rubbish Ukraine never a threat to Russia..
Re: USA, Henry Kissinger: Ukraine Must Give Russia Territory by tamdun: 3:19pm On May 24, 2022
okeysoninv:
rubbish Ukraine never a threat to Russia..
Nato is a threat yo Russia and Ukraine is about to join them

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Re: USA, Henry Kissinger: Ukraine Must Give Russia Territory by okeysoninv: 3:22pm On May 24, 2022
tamdun:

Nato is a threat yo Russia and Ukraine is about to join them
stop following Russia propaganda Ukraine never applied to join NATO. it has been debunked several times. Russia is a notorious land grabber, from China , Japan , Finland , Germany, Mongolia etc . stealing weaker nations land.. evasion of Ukraine Is to steal land from Eastern and southern Ukraine then link it up to Moldova
Re: USA, Henry Kissinger: Ukraine Must Give Russia Territory by Nancy2020(f): 3:52pm On May 24, 2022
okeysoninv:
stop following Russia propaganda Ukraine never applied to join NATO. it has been debunked several times. Russia is a notorious land grabber, from China , Japan , Finland , Germany, Mongolia etc . stealing weaker nations land.. evasion of Ukraine Is to steal land from Eastern and southern Ukraine then link it up to Moldova

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Re: USA, Henry Kissinger: Ukraine Must Give Russia Territory by okeysoninv: 5:36pm On May 24, 2022
[quote author=Nancy2020 post=113132736][/quote] when finnland and Sweden submitted their. form we are all . don't tell me you believed in heresay without any evidence..yes, Ukraine has been clamouring for many to belong both eu and NATO.. but never obtained..not only Ukraine including Georgia too. Russia has no justification of attacking ukraine.
Re: USA, Henry Kissinger: Ukraine Must Give Russia Territory by Nobody: 6:57pm On May 24, 2022
okeysoninv:
when finnland and Sweden submitted their. form we are all . don't tell me you believed in heresay without any evidence..yes, Ukraine has been clamouring for many to belong both eu and NATO.. but never obtained..not only Ukraine including Georgia too. Russia has no justification of attacking ukraine.

Very sad when you just argue for the sake of it. Someone has provided tons of evidence, the evidence is even open sourced, you are trying to spin nothing about. This is how NATO application goes. The applicant country submits an application, this application is deliberated in the immediate next submit. If it gains traction and support, the country qualifies for a MAP. This outlines series of reforms, civil rights, political and military, the country has to undertake to become a full fledged member. The question now to you is this! Can you qualify for something you did not apply for? If Ukraine did not apply, would it even get deliberation in the Bucharest submit? Finland and Sweden will have their application deliberated at the next submit in June. You can find tens of thousands of source on this na! Unfortunately, yanukovich put a stop to it in 2010, because he wanted the country to remain neutral. This was his first sin.

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Re: USA, Henry Kissinger: Ukraine Must Give Russia Territory by okeysoninv: 7:05pm On May 24, 2022
skoskosko:


Very sad when you just argue for the sake of it. Someone has provided tons of evidence, the evidence is even open sourced, you are trying to spin nothing about. This is how NATO application goes. The applicant country submits an application, this application is deliberated in the immediate next submit. If it gains traction and support, the country qualifies for a MAP. This outlines series of reforms, civil rights, political and military, the country has to undertake to become a full fledged member. The question now to you is this! Can you qualify for something you did not apply for? You can find tens of thousands of source on this na! Unfortunately, yanukovich put a stop to it in 2010, because he wanted the country to remain neutral. This was his first sin.
oga, Ukraine never bought form to join NATO. having intention and executing ur intention is different thing. finnland had intention , and executed it, . it was the execution that change the relationship it has with the Russia. you want to argue for argument sake. Ukraine had intention but never executed it..the sole reason Russia is invading Ukraine is because they are leaning towards democratic government . you get it or continue arguing
Re: USA, Henry Kissinger: Ukraine Must Give Russia Territory by Nobody: 7:36pm On May 24, 2022
okeysoninv:
oga, Ukraine never bought form to join NATO. having intention and executing ur intention is different thing. finnland had intention , and executed it, . it was the execution that change the relationship it has with the Russia. you want to argue for argument sake. Ukraine had intention but never executed it..the sole reason Russia is invading Ukraine is because they are leaning towards democratic government . you get it or continue arguing
Be deceiving yourself! When did intention and apply become the same thing? Or do you apply by intent? Is the English not clear enough? When reading, looks for the meaning of that word APPLIED and APPLICATION.

Let’s also leave that to the other fact of Ukraine amending their constitution to force every president to pursue NATO ascension in other to avoid a repeat of what yanukovich did in 2010. The next you will say they are a sovereign nation and free to join any alliance! If the case of Cuban missile crisis is cited, you will say it happened long ago! If you are reminded that Australia and the US just threatened a sovereign nation recently over its choice, you will say but they haven’t invaded solomons yet, it’s still threat! No single guiding principle!!!

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Re: USA, Henry Kissinger: Ukraine Must Give Russia Territory by okeysoninv: 7:46pm On May 24, 2022
skoskosko:

Be deceiving yourself! When did intention and apply become the same thing? Or do you apply by intent? Is the English not clear enough? When reading, looks for the meaning of that word APPLIED.

Let’s also leave that to the other fact of Ukraine amending their constitution to force every president to pursue NATO ascension in other to avoid a repeat of what yanukovich did in 2010. The next you will say they are a sovereign nation and free to join any alliance! If the case of Cuban missile crisis is cited, you will say it happened long ago! If you are reminded that Australia and the US just threatened a sovereign nation recently over its choice, you will say but they haven’t invaded solomons yet, it’s still threat! No single guiding principle!!!
trying to educate you is time exhausting.. maybe your toddler. learn and try to follow international politics..Russia policy with finnland didn't change because finns had intention of joining NATO in February but immediately they penned the form everything changes. unlike Ukraine who never obtained in membership form. and has debunked several times they are not joining any NATO..Russia motive is clear , since Ukraine won't be under the rules of Kremlin" let's divide the country " . and took our Russia speaking part the Crisis started immediately after the revolution that toppled the Kremlin back- government. you can put ur own narrative but Russia intention and pursuing goals is clear. taking southern and Eastern Ukraine link it with Crimea . the next is Transnistria. these wars has nothing to do with NATO
Re: USA, Henry Kissinger: Ukraine Must Give Russia Territory by Nobody: 9:07pm On May 24, 2022
okeysoninv:
trying to educate you is time exhausting.. maybe your toddler. learn and try to follow international politics..Russia policy with finnland didn't change because finns had intention of joining NATO in February but immediately they penned the form everything changes. unlike Ukraine who never obtained in membership form. and has debunked several times they are not joining any NATO..Russia motive is clear , since Ukraine won't be under the rules of Kremlin" let's divide the country " . and took our Russia speaking part the Crisis started immediately after the revolution that toppled the Kremlin back- government. you can put ur own narrative but Russia intention and pursuing goals is clear. taking southern and Eastern Ukraine link it with Crimea . the next is Transnistria. these wars has nothing to do with NATO
That is how they are, when they have nothing to say, they start insulting people. You have been given proofs, more than enough, links and screenshots, your own narrative have no backup, just your words. How can you claim to educate someone who has proofs and you don’t have any, not even a link? if you like don’t learn. Run along, I don’t have strength for online insults.

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