OriOko88:

See talk..na china u dey call small. China is d third biggest country on earth by land mass,and second biggest economy in the whole world...and china is most populous country on mother earth. Go to school u no gree.. Na two odds u dey look around for. See ya lyf nw

boyfrank:


Vietnam also defeated China. Inshort, China invaded Vietnam soon after the US left and Vietnam still managed to spank China too. So Vietnam is not small at all.

Amayabor1:


And you think the US is sitting, waiting for Chinese Military to reach their level? Lol. Funny people. The US have 11 aircraft carriers (all nuclear powered) and they are still building more. All other countries share 12 aircraft carriers, with China having 3.

In essence, there are 23 aircraft carriers in the world. Only the US have 11 (all nuclear powered)

nomenclature:

Ordinary to produce cover bottle for the place dem dey put water for those Russian tanks ,you country nonde fit produce, your country still dey import bread from UK and you get mouth to talk.
Russia first country wen enter space, country wen be nuclear power ,ountrywen dey produce ships , supersonic fighter jets , aeroplanes, cars, space craft and all kinds of advanced technologies .
Only China and Russia get supersonic missiles right now and you idiot from the most shameless country in the world dey compare .....

Hanibbal:


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/17/china-launches-third-aircraft-carrier-the-fujian

Simeonjoe1:


But this is quite true though. With the advancement in targeting systems and hypersonic technology an aircraft carrier with it battle group becomes increasingly vulnerable. Well you can't say because of road accidents you won't drive, despite the effectiveness of ATGM people are still spending billions building armored vehicles.

Fredmatic:
We are here trying to solve power problem

AbdulHakeem44:


If no enemies are engaging them, what's it usefulness amassing them in multitude? Just keep sailing and wasting tax payers fund. Lol, as if am just hearing aircraft carrier before, save your lecture for someone else.

Amayabor1:


That is a point but the Americans keep building aircraft carriers. You know why? The advantages of an aircraft carrier far exceeds the disadvantages/risk. Let me show you some points.

1. Aircraft carriers are one of the most potent expression of America military might. They are the most visible power the US uses to discourage aggression (the 3rd Taiwan strait crisis comes to mind)

2. Aircraft carriers, unlike land bases are hard to detect and attack. For example, in the event of war between China and the US, the US military base in Guam can be hit by China, but not so for an aircraft carrier. They act as mobile military bases on sea. Since all US Aircraft carriers are nuclear powered, in the event of war, they can move at a maximum speed on sea for weeks without the need to refuel.

3. The first step in attacking a US aircraft carrier is to find it. But that will not be easy because in war, aircraft carriers are expected to operate far from shore during the early stages of a conflict (about 200nm from shore) because the aircraft and cruise missiles from other warships in carrier strike group and submarines will be used to destroy enemy sensors, weapons etc. It is only when these threats have been elimated that Aircraft Carriers can come closer to shore, increasing the range of attack of the fighter jets. This is the reason aircraft carriers don't sail alone.

4. Don't think detecting an aircraft carrier is easy. For example, the south China Sea measures over one million square miles (and the south China Sea makes up a small part of the entire western Pacific. check the size of the Pacific ocean, then you will have an idea of the size we are talking about). The only practical way to conduct surveillance over that kind of expanse is with satellites but China presently do not have a military recoinnssance satellite capable of finding a carrier. If China uses commercial satellites, it will be useless since these satellites take days to weeks to deliver images which will be useless for an assets on sea that is constantly moving. Without locating the target you want to strike, your offensive weapons (including hypersonic missiles) is useless. Except you just want to be firing hypersonic missiles into the open sea aimlessly.

5. US Aircraft carriers have layers of defense. The outermost defense is provided by the E-2C
Hawkeye airborne surveillance radar and Aegis radars on surface combatants. As attackers penetrate further, they come within
range of various other sensors and defenses including those on the carrier


6. US aircraft carriers are built to take heavy hit without serious damage

Baba, just know that you are not wiser than the Americans that have 11 aircraft carriers and continue to build more. Attacking a US Aircraft carrier is no child's play.

redcliff:


Vietnam is not small, you for tell me how many aircraft carrier and nuclear bombs them get...

Ballzproblemm:
America has like 10 so what , and besides their capabilities can't match the ones Yankees built , this is just a cheap knock off

Simeonjoe1:

I get your point but an aircraft carrier is not invincible. The use of drones, maritime patrol aircraft, stealth aircraft with advanced ISR systems can detect a carrier. They are large and with its numerous accompanied assets they can be detected if you search at the right place. Some ISR platform can scan for hundred of miles. China also possess missile with ranges of hundreds of missile far more than some aircraft range. With improvements in their targeting technology(which they are pretty advanced on) and hypersonic ability it becomes harder to counter this missile attack even more worst if you have to defend against barrage of attack.

The China of 25 years ago where the US can easily sail their aircraft carriers along the Taiwan Straits is not the same currently. US will like to keep their precious asset at a distance.

Blackfire:
Is that what Peter obi always uses them as example..



Rubbish


Unknown candidate with no structure

Andres28:
Dem nor fit copy USA carrier this time .... USA will always lead why china and Russia follows.



Go and check the USS FORD OR THE NIMITZ CLASS CARRIER AND SEE FOR YOURSELF.

Amayabor1:


Someone said something similar like this last year. He said US aircraft carriers are sitting duck and that China can strike them. But the same China is building more aircraft carriers. I wonder why China want to have more "sitting ducks" .

Funny people!

AbdulHakeem44:


This is Chinese first built carrier, so it is well justified. it's a total waste to have them much. When have you heard of the USA sitting ducks engaging? Just wasting tax payers money running them.

engrchykae:
why is America not invading Russia?
Iraq invaded Yemen and NATO invaded Iraq immediately.
Russia annexed Crimea, Obama spoke English
Russia invaded Ukraine, Biden is speaking English

Amayabor1:


Well, I didn't say an aircraft carrier is invisible though. Yes, an aircraft carrier is large, but if you compare where you are supposed to find a carrier to the size where it can be at any point (the south China Sea, or the more expansive western Pacific), then you will know a carrier is not easy to detect on sea. Some ISR can scan for hundred of miles? The South China Sea is over a million square miles. I just told you the best way to scan such an expanse in real time, for a target that is not stationary and China currently have no such ability. China have missiles, have these, have that. The US carrier strike group has what? Bullets? Lol. Barrage of attack? The US has more land and sea assets close to China. China will be the country try to dodge from a barrage of attacks from different locations.

China of 25 years ago? Please! A US aircraft carrier sailed through the Taiwan strait in 2007.

Karnice600:


What I told a friend some time ago last week. China will surpass the US in figures, numbers. The US will always lead in authenticity and potential. Its obvious, China draws her inspiration from the US. Only God knows where the US draw hers from.

Andres28:



China is only surpassing USA in figure is because USA is a more civilized nation that's been mindful of population growth.. China USA is virtually the same size in land mass.
USA is still far more developed per cities more than China..the only thing china is bigger than USA is population that's because they are encourage population growth..They want to exist alone as an independent world.

The secret of US technology is still hidden from the rest of the world...they are always the pioneers in every field.

Amayabor1:


Well, I didn't say an aircraft carrier is invisible though. Yes, an aircraft carrier is large, but if you compare where you are supposed to find a carrier to the size where it can be at any point (the south China Sea, or the more expansive western Pacific), then you will know a carrier is not easy to detect on sea. Some ISR can scan for hundred of miles? The South China Sea is over a million square miles. I just told you the best way to scan such an expanse in real time, for a target that is not stationary and China currently have no such ability. China have missiles, have these, have that. The US carrier strike group has what? Bullets? Lol. Barrage of attack? The US has more land and sea assets close to China. China will be the country try to dodge from a barrage of attacks from different locations.

China of 25 years ago? Please! A US aircraft carrier sailed through the Taiwan strait in 2007.

Simeonjoe1:


Yes they would likely be exchanging barrage of missile but know that the US major bases in Okinawa, South Korea and Guam are fixed target and well within range of Chinese attack. Also most of this Chinese cruise missile are mobile system hence difficult to destroy them since they are always on the move. With Chinese claim of having hypersonic missile it becomes hard for us anti missile defense system to intercept them more so hard if the anti missile system are to engage multiple targets at once in a highly electronic jamming environment(which China also possess).

Also concerning the aircraft carriers. For it to be effective an aircraft carrier have to be within the range of it aircraft combat radius. Take for example the US want to use a carrier fleet to strike mainland China. The aircraft has to be within striking distance of the jet and their air refueling platform and this could be anywhere from tens to hundreds of miles but definitely not in excess of thousands of miles because they are practically useless. With this you've definitely reduce the search radius because instead of searching the vast distant ocean you'll reduce your search to thousands of miles radius where the enemy can effectively strike your bases from. Yes China possess the ISR capabilities to carry out this search. Dozens of ISR plane can be at the air at the same time same with drones, maritime ships and even submarine all having an integrated ISR management. Also other things make it easier like the tracking of enemies communications, detecting of enemy radar signatures (all these are found in an ISR plane) also sighting of enemy planes on recon further reduces the search radius as you know their landing platform is around that area.
During ww2 Japan and US engaged in a rat and mouse game for searching enemies aircraft carriers and battleship it was difficult but not impossible despite the deficit Radar system and mediocre technology at that time. Common guy you've got to be kidding me, China is only behind the US and Russia in military technology and when it comes to electronics and surveillance equipment they are well advanced so telling me China does not have the ability to detect or track an aircraft in the vast ocean is joke its even more absurd to say they can't detect an aircraft carriers within striking radius of their territory.

Karnice600:


Only Covid-19 lockdown cost most people their jobs and set "one million" boys on a Lagos-wide evangelism for soul survival. That was just a Wuhan virus kasala. You been dey alive experience that kind thing, now you come here come dey ask why US, a nuclear power no attack Russia, a nuclear power with short-fused president....
*************
I sent for wheat recently and discovered its now about 2k to 2200 for a "paint" . I learnt the war in Europe is has affected the surplus supplies of wheat from Ukraine, who are responsible for a good percentage of global wheat supply. It dawned on me that such a distant conflict could affect the food items in my shelf. Now imagine a nuclear exchange between two huge nuclear powers. And you think you'll be watching that on your plasma screen without your realities being adversely affected?

leesamyoung:


China have ability to detect US carrier in real time through AI satellite so they can destroy it. era of carrier have gone it is symbolic for peacetime and to oppress country with little military capacity. US can sink china carrier likewise china have capacity to sink their too. so for China it is tools to oppress Taiwan and to show it military advance and might, link below to show you china detect US carrier training in US water not South China just imagine the carrier in South China water during war they will sink it. so don't let me hear you say china don't have capacity to detect US carrier again get updated. I come in peace

https://eurasiantimes.com/tracking-america-china-claims-its-ai-powered-satellite-monitored/?amp

https://moneycentral.com.ng/markets/article/chinese-smart-satellite-live-streamed-us-nimitz-class-aircraft-carrier-off-new-york/

https://www.ibtimes.com.au/chinas-new-ai-powered-satellite-can-send-real-time-targeting-info-us-carrier-report-1815680

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/05/chinas-ai-satellites-can-track-us-ships-in-real-time-around-the-world-report/

engrchykae:
so USA has sense when it comes to a madman but loses every sense in Libya?

Amayabor1:


No need for the 4 links. They are all saying the same thing; "The Chinese claimed". No evidence what so ever to what they claimed they did.

Believe them at your own peril.

engrchykae:
but they can invade Iraq for invading Kuwait

leesamyoung:


why won't I believe them whatever they claim to have they have it, be hypersonic missile or aircraft carrier or stealth jet, tell me where they have lie about their capabilities

Simeonjoe1:


Yes they would likely be exchanging barrage of missile but know that the US major bases in Okinawa, South Korea and Guam are fixed target and well within range of Chinese attack. Also most of this Chinese cruise missile are mobile system hence difficult to destroy them since they are always on the move. With Chinese claim of having hypersonic missile it becomes hard for us anti missile defense system to intercept them more so hard if the anti missile system are to engage multiple targets at once in a highly electronic jamming environment(which China also possess).

Also concerning the aircraft carriers. For it to be effective an aircraft carrier have to be within the range of it aircraft combat radius. Take for example the US want to use a carrier fleet to strike mainland China. The aircraft has to be within striking distance of the jet and their air refueling platform and this could be anywhere from tens to hundreds of miles but definitely not in excess of thousands of miles because they are practically useless. With this you've definitely reduce the search radius because instead of searching the vast distant ocean you'll reduce your search to thousands of miles radius where the enemy can effectively strike your bases from. Yes China possess the ISR capabilities to carry out this search. Dozens of ISR plane can be at the air at the same time same with drones, maritime ships and even submarine all having an integrated ISR management. Also other things make it easier like the tracking of enemies communications, detecting of enemy radar signatures (all these are found in an ISR plane) also sighting of enemy planes on recon further reduces the search radius as you know their landing platform is around that area.
During ww2 Japan and US engaged in a rat and mouse game for searching enemies aircraft carriers and battleship it was difficult but not impossible despite the deficit Radar system and mediocre technology at that time. Common guy you've got to be kidding me, China is only behind the US and Russia in military technology and when it comes to electronics and surveillance equipment they are well advanced so telling me China does not have the ability to detect or track an aircraft in the vast ocean is joke its even more absurd to say they can't detect an aircraft carriers within striking radius of their territory.

Amayabor1:


Guam, Okinawa, and other US military bases are fixed target. Is China as a country not a fixed target? Or China floats in space? You talked about barrage of missiles, coming from a single place (the Chinese Homeland). Compare that to missiles coming from Guam, Okinawa, South Korea and any other military bases in the region, including assets on the sea. All from different countries and you think the one sending it's missiles from a particular place of the country stands a better chance. US submarines plays in the south China Sea, close to China. China had to beg the US to tell them what really happened when one of US submarines had an accident in the south China Sea. They were not even aware of the submarine's activities.

You talked about China's cruise missiles being mobile. And all the US weapon systems are all land based and fixed right?

Talking about Aircraft combat radius, I have explained this before. The US Aircraft carriers can operate at 200 nautical miles from shore and still be difficult to detect (even 400 Nm) and aircraft combat radius will not be a problem as all US fighter jets that operate on carriers have a combat radius that exceeds 400nm. With destruction of enemy defense and offensive weapons by submarines, cruise missiles from other war ships in the carrier strike group, the aircraft carrier can get closer to shore, thereby reducing the sortie time of fighter jets operating from carrier. Should I remind you that the US have 11 of such aircraft carriers each forming a carrier strike group (consisting of submarines, guided missile cruisers, destroyers, frigates, the carrier itself each having about 70 fighter jets on board, ISR aircrafts like the E-2C Hawkeye). Imagine 11 different carrier strike group operating at different points in the SCS. Mind you, in the event of war, US submarines will play a major role in destructing targets in China. The war will be ended by submarines before it starts. US submarine power is unmatched.

As for ISR. I stand on my earlier comment that China do not have the military capabilities to track a US Aircraft carrier in REAL TIME. They can know an a carrier has been in a certain location days after the carrier has left that particular place. But they can't do real time tracking of a US aircraft carrier.


Anyways, this argument can go on and on. You are free to believe on Chinese military capabilities while I believe on the US superior military capabilities. Only war between these countries can prove either of us right. We hope that day doesn't come!

Bye!