The Russians will not be defeated, period, for the simple reason that, by orders of magnitude, Ukraine means more to them than it does to us. They see a Ukraine within NATO, armed to the teeth with U.S. sophisticated weapons aimed at them, as an existential threat to mother Russia. They won't let it happen. They have said so for years. If the war looks as though it's moving toward a Russian defeat, they will do what it takes to avert that. We don't want that outcome. That way lies catastrophe.
There was never a U.S. or Western strategic interest in Ukraine for which it was rational for us to provoke this war. And once this war started, Russia's commitment to its successful conclusion — inevitably, unavoidably — was known to all who could fog a mirror as greater than that of the U.S. and the West.

Western policy elites who claim not to have seen this war coming — after the Biden administration treated Ukraine as a de facto member of NATO during all of 2021, and after Russia had been saying for nearly a decade that it would not tolerate Ukraine as a U.S. military bulwark on its border — are just plain fools. If they really were this blind, they were unqualified for their jobs.

Before the war started, as late as December of 2021, the Russians very probably would have settled the Ukraine problem by a declaration of permanent Ukrainian neutrality (i.e., no NATO membership, ever); some form of reasonable autonomy for the Russian-speaking, pro-Russian Donbas within Ukraine; and recognition of Crimea as Russian. This settlement in no way would have adversely affected legitimate U.S./Western interests. The only U.S. ox that would have been gored by this settlement would have been that of our odious neocon triumphalists, who want America to destroy Russia and become the world's unquestioned hegemon.

Now, after Russian lives, treasure, and U.S.-orchestrated sanctions and obloquy, who knows what Russia's demands will be?
The West's interest in Ukraine, on the other hand, is merely a neocon, U.S. hegemony adventure, seeking to assert U.S. top dog dominance in Eastern Europe, and thereafter the world. Failing to achieve this foolish and arrogant goal, the culmination of U.S.-sponsored eastern expansion of NATO to which Russia has objected vigorously since the time of Yeltsin would in no way threaten any real U.S. or Western interest.

Other things being roughly equal (as they are in this war), victory in war goes to the side with the greater commitment and willingness to suffer. Russia has the greater will in this war. And it knows how to suffer. Therefore, it wins.

Unless the Pentagon chooses nuclear Armageddon, in which case both sides will lose.

It was a fool's errand for the U.S. to provoke this war, and for that matter a fool's errand from the start (1999), for the U.S. to expand NATO eastward in the total absence of any Russian threat after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/07/russias_will_to_win_in_ukraine.html

NATO never liked the Russia ,likewise Russia was threaten by NATO existence plus western adventures... beside NATO was created for annihilation of Soviet union which it's origin and power house was Russia .... today almost all pioneer country of NATO are facing nemesis or will I say fatal inflation from sanctions the created for Russia ...... Slavia Russo!

let me park here and read comments

The west are just pitching two brothers, against each other, to further create enmity that would last for aeons, while they watch as they continually kill each other, until they both are weak, for final devouring.
RUSSIANS AND UKRAINIANS, should know that non of the West, genuinely love them it's all about interests.

End this politics


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Emmanueltrinity:
NATO never liked the Russia ,likewise Russia was threaten by NATO existence plus western adventures... beside NATO was created for annihilation of Soviet union which it's origin and power house was Russia .... today almost all pioneer country of NATO are facing nemesis or will I say fatal inflation from sanctions the created for Russia ...... Slavia Russo!

Putin boys. Nato was created after the world understood the power of tyrants. Hirtlers war took the world by surprise.. But never again.. Russia was complete part and parcel of the crime war against humanity.. Until hitler turned on them. So the west knew that such person with such history cannot be trusted.. He will always do it again, so nato was formed as a defensive alliance against the hitlets partner Russia.. And thank God it was formed cos events has proved it to be the right decision.

You simply regurgitated everything you were fed by Western media. You accuse others of your actions. It's known as "Mirroring."
NATO bombed Libya etc

Some of us are no longer interested in what the West has to offer.
They locked you up for two years under "covid" and are about to lock you up again. It's known as "climate lockdown."
They will create an artificial food crisis, and you will be prohibited from growing your own food.
Pay attention to what is happening in Sri Lanka. The govt., has fallen
Dutch farmers just got the memo and its going to be the downfall of the West

pquaver:


Putin boys. Nato was created after the world understood the power of tyrants. Hirtlers war took the world by surprise.. But never again.. Russia was complete part and parcel of the crime war against humanity.. Until hitler turned on them. So the west knew that such person with such history cannot be trusted.. He will always do it again, so nato was formed as a defensive alliance against the hitlets partner Russia.. And thank God it was formed cos events has proved it to be the right decision.

bn365:
You simply regurgitated everything you were fed by Western media. You accuse others of your actions. It's known as "Mirroring."
NATO bombed Libya etc

Some of us are no longer interested in what the West has to offer.
They locked you up for two years under "covid" and are about to lock you up again. It's known as "climate lockdown."
They will create an artificial food crisis, and you will be prohibited from growing your own food.
Pay attention to what is happening in Sri Lanka. The govt., has fallen
Dutch farmers just got the memo and its going to be the downfall of the West

No price is too much for freedom.. Libya, and the rest should shin terrorism and the west will leave it alone. China and Russia show respect human Rights and nato will disappear.. It is simple..

Talking of being locked up who is lock up the one who restrict pple to only a news source or tge one who gives freedom of choice to listen to whatever u want... I don't blame you.. Because u have freedom u think is cheap, u don't know the west bled for it.. If not ur miserable ass will be sitting next to putin in Nazi SS concentration camp. Nonsense

Russian Will??....see narrative switch

A fight the champ thought will be a 2nd round knockout is going into the 10th.

Looks to me The Will belongs to the opponent

Don't insult our intelligence abeg
Why Russia has fans in Nigeria will remain puzzling

pquaver:


No price is too much for freedom.. Libya, and the rest should shin terrorism and the west will leave it alone. China and Russia show respect human Rights and nato will disappear.. It is simple..

Talking of being locked up who is lock up the one who restrict pple to only a news source or tge one who gives freedom of choice to listen to whatever u want... I don't blame you.. Because u have freedom u think is cheap, u don't know the west bled for it.. If not ur miserable ass will be sitting next to putin in Nazi SS concentration camp. Nonsense

Do you prefer Libya of today to that of Gaddafi?

tamdun:

Do you prefer Libya of today to that of Gaddafi?

Libya brought it on its self.. Algeria, Egypt, morocco are still standing... He who brings ant infested firewood to his should not complain of lizards.. Why accommodate and entertain terrorists?

You're dumb
Freedom? Americans are realizing they're not a democracy, while you're here fooling yourself.
The worst atrocities and human rights violations ever recorded in human history came from Europe.
Some of us are awake, you can go back to sleep, we got this.

pquaver:


No price is too much for freedom.. Libya, and the rest should shin terrorism and the west will leave it alone. China and Russia show respect human Rights and nato will disappear.. It is simple..

Talking of being locked up who is lock up the one who restrict pple to only a news source or tge one who gives freedom of choice to listen to whatever u want... I don't blame you.. Because u have freedom u think is cheap, u don't know the west bled for it.. If not ur miserable ass will be sitting next to putin in Nazi SS concentration camp. Nonsense

bn365:
You're dumb
Freedom? Americans are realizing they're not a democracy, while you're here fooling yourself.
The worst atrocities and human rights violations ever recorded in human history came from Europe.
Some of us are awake, you can go back to sleep, we got this.

You lie.. There are is a difference between the development of the world and the 21 century. Russia has been part of all crimes against humanity... Mr man and all wars were all participating as aggressor