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Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by purafapi: 7:21am On Aug 13, 2022
Islam strongly opposes idolatry or associating partners to Allah. In contrast, Muhammad's people, the Arab believed that God had partners. Three of these partners are even mentioned in the Qur'an, namely: al-Lat, al-Uzza and al-Manat. Each had a shrine in separate places not far from Mecca in Arabia, where Muhammad was born and began. The Arabs even considered these Deities to be daughters of God!

According to early historical accounts of Muslim scholars, Muhammad longed for better relations with his people after they rejected him and were hostile to him due his preaching. It was at this point that Quran Chapter 53 was revealed. The satanic verses were two verses after 19 and 20 which were part of the original revelations but was abrogated. It reads:

Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza,
And Manat, the third, the other? (Q53:19-20)


These were then followed by these verses

These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries)
Whose intercession is to be hoped for


However, theses later verses were removed because they were cast on Muhammads lip by Satan during the recital of Chapter 53: 19-20.

Is there evidence to support these claim?

This event is well documented in early Islamic writings. However, two we will use the writings of Ibn Ishaq and Al-Tabari to show that the event truly happened. Moreover, several Hadiths support the event's occurrence.

AL-TABARI RECORD OF THE INCIDENT ("Tabari's History", pages 107 - 113, translated by W. M. Watt, published by SUNY, N.Y., USA.)

The messenger of God was eager for the welfare of his people and wished to effect a reconciliation with them in whatever ways he could. It is said that he wanted to find a way to do this, and what happened was a follows. (170)
Ibn Humayd - Salamah-Muhammad b. Ishaq - Yazid b. Ziyad al-Madani - Muhammad b. Ka'b al-Qurazi: When the messenger of God saw how his tribe turned their backs on him and was grieved to see them shunning the message he had brought to them from God, he longed in his soul that something would come to him from God which would reconcile him with his tribe. With his love for his tribe and his eagerness for their welfare it would have delighted him if some of the difficulties which they made for him could have been smoothed out, and he debated with himself and fervently desired such an outcome. Then God revealedsad171)

"By the Star when it sets, your comrade does not err, nor is he deceived; nor does he speak out of (his own) desire..."
and when he came to the words:

Have you thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the other?
Satan cast on his tongue, because of his inner debates and what he desired to bring to his people, the words:

"These are the high flying cranes; verily their intercession is accepted with approval. (172)

When Quraysh heard this, they rejoiced and were happy and delighted at the way in which he spoke of their gods, and they listened to him, while the Muslims, having complete trust in their prophet in respect of the messages which he brought from God, did not suspect him of error, illusion, or mistake. When he came to the prostration, having completed the surah, he prostrated himself and the Muslims did likewise, following their prophet, trusting in the message which he had brought and following his example. Those polytheists of the Quraysh and others who were in the mosque (173) likewise prostrated themselves because of the reference to their gods which they had heard, so that there was no one in the mosque, believer orunbeliever, who did not prostrate himself. The one exception was al-Walid b. Al-Mughirah, who was a very old man and could not prostrate himself; but he took a handful of soil from the valley in his hand and bowed over that. Then they all dispersed from the mosque. The Quraysh left delighted by the mention of their gods which they had hared, saying,"Muhammad has mentioned our goes in the most favorable way possible, stating in his recitation that they are the high flying cranes and that their intercession is received with approval.

THE RECORD OF IBN ISHAQ ABOUT THE INCIDENT. ("The Life of Muhammad", pages 165 – 167, translation of Ibn Ishaq's "Sirat Rasulallah" by A. Guillaume published by Oxford, London, England.)

"Now the apostle was anxious for the welfare of his people, wishing to attract them as far as he could. It has been mentioned that he longed for a way to attract them, and the method he adopted is what Ibn Hamid told me that Salama said M. B. Ishaq told him from Yazid b. Ziyad of Medina from M. B. Ka'b al-Qurazi: When the apostle saw what his people turned their backs on him and he was pained by their estrangement from what he brought them from God he longed that there should come to him from God a message that would reconcile his people to him. Because of his love for his people and his anxiety over them it would delight him if the obstacle that made his task so difficult could be removed; so that he meditated on the project and longed for it and it was dear to him. Then God sent down

"by the star when it sets your comrade errs not and is not deceived, he speaks not from his own desire," and when he reached His words "Have you thought of al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat the third, the other (5), Satan, when he was mediating upon it, and desiring to bring it (sc. reconciliation) to his people, put upon his tongue "these are the exalted Gharaniq (1) whose intercession is approved. (2)" When Quraysh heard that, they were delighted and greatly pleased at the way in which he spoke of their gods and they listened to him; while the believers were holding that what their prophet brought them from their Lord was true, not suspecting a mistake or a vain desire or a slip, and when he reached the prostration (3) and the end of the Sura in which he prostrated himself the Muslims prostrated themselves when their prophet prostrated confirming what he brought and obeying his command, and the polytheists of Quraysh and others who were in the mosque prostrated when they heard the mention of their gods, so that everyone in the mosque believer and unbeliever prostrated, except al-Walid b. Al-Mughira who was an old man who could not do so, so he took a handful of dirt from the valley and bent over it. Then the people dispersed and Quraysh went out, delighted at what had been said about their gods, saying, "Muhammad has spoken of our gods in splendid fashion. He alleged in what he read that they are the exalted Gharaniq whose intercession is approved."

THE TAFSIR OF ZAMAKHSHARI ON THE INCIDENCE ("The Quran and its Exegesis, by Helmut Gatje, pages 53 - 55, published by Oneworld, Oxford, England)

"The faithful rendering of the revelation Zamakhshari on Sura 22:52/51
We have never sent any messenger of prophet before thee, but that Satan cast into his fancy, when he was fancying; but God annuls what Satan casts, then God confirms His signs - surely God is All-knowing, All-wise.

.. The occasion of the sending down of the present verse is the following: As the members of the tribe of the messenger of God turned away from him and took their stand against him and his relatives also opposed him and refused to be guided by what he brought to them, then, as a result of the extreme exasperation concerning their estrangement and as a result of the eager desire and longing that they be converted to Islam, the messenger of God sheltered the wish that nothing would come down to him that could make them shy away. Perhaps he should have been able to use that for the purpose of converting them and causing them to be dissuaded from their error and obstinacy. Now this wish continued in him until the sura called "The Star" (that is, Sura 53) came down. At that time he found himself with this wish in his heart regarding the members of his tribe. Then he began to recite, and when he came to God's words "and Manat, the third, the other" (Sura 53:20), Satan substituted something in accordance with the wish which the messenger of God had sheltered, that is, he whispered something to him which would enable the messenger to announce his wish. In an inadvertent and misleading manner, his tongue hurried on ahead of him, so that he said: "These (goddesses are the) exalted cranes. Their intercession (with God) is to be hoped for."...Yet, the messenger of God was not clear at this point until the protection of God "isma" reached him and he then became attentive again.

Some say that Gabriel drew his attention to it, or that Satan himself spoke those words and brought them to the people's hearing. As soon as the messenger of God prostrated (for prayer) as the end of the sura, all who were present did it with him and felt pleased (that is, the unbelievers felt pleased that their goddesses had been accepted as intercessors with God).

CONCLUSION
The evidence proves that Muhammad spoke the Satanic verses. The two early biographers of Muhammad's life detail the story. There are references to it in the Hadith. Finally, there is specific references to it in the Quran. It may make Muslims uncomfortable that Satan puts words in their prophets mouth during his revelations. How sure are we that some other satanic verses were not spoken into the Quran without been detected? Can Muslim still claim perfect preservation of allahs word when satanic puts his own word into allahs own?
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by delzbaba(m): 7:32am On Aug 13, 2022
Even this your write up can incite this people against you, shebi they have stabbed him make dem rest.
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by purafapi: 8:14am On Aug 13, 2022
delzbaba:
Even this your write up can incite this people against you, shebi they have stabbed him make dem rest.

It is meant to get them thinking about their religion.
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by AntiChristian: 12:52pm On Aug 13, 2022
I no even get anything about the topic!

We know the Holy Spirit of the Christians is false/non-existent!

So whatever Christians say here is false! They just shop for whatever lies they can use to blackmail Islam.

This Satanic Verses is based on a false report. Ibn Katheer and others said:

There is no saheeh isnaad from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) concerning this report, which says that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) “recited Soorat al-Najm to the mushrikeen until he reached the verses (interpretation of the meaning) ‘Have you then considered Al-Laat, and Al-‘Uzzaa (two idols of the pagan Arabs),And Manaat (another idol of the pagan Arabs), the other third?’ [al-Najm 53:19-20 – interpretation of the meaning]. Then the Shaytaan put words into the mouth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and he said: ‘they are the exalted gharaneeq, whose intercession is to be hopedfor.’ The kuffaar were pleased with this praise of their three idols, so they prostrated.”

This report is undoubtedly false on a number of counts.

1. Its isnaad is very weak and is not saheeh.

2.The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was infallible with regard to the conveying of his Message.

3.Even if this report was saheeh, for argument’s sake, the scholars have stated that it is to be understood as meaning that the Shaytaan caused the kuffaar to hear these words, not that he put them in the mouth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), so they heard them from him.

See Ibn Katheer’s refutation of this in his tafseer of Soorat al-Hajj 22:52. And Allaah knows best.

Definition of Isnaad
the chain of authorities attesting to the historical authenticity of a particular hadith.
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by tctrills: 12:54pm On Aug 13, 2022
AntiChristian:
I no even get anything about the topic!

We know the Holy Spirit of the Christians is false/non-existent!

So whatever Christians say here is false! They just shop for whatever lies they can use to blackmail Islam.
I am beginning to enjoy you. Pls you guys should stop the violence. Let's together pray for Salaman's speedy recovery.
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by AntiChristian: 12:58pm On Aug 13, 2022
tctrills:

I am beginning to enjoy you. Pls you guys should stop the violence. Let's together pray for Salaman's speedy recovery.

Which violence are you promoting before? It's none of my business if he lives or die!
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by tctrills: 12:59pm On Aug 13, 2022
AntiChristian:


Which violence are you promoting before? It's none of my business if he lives or die!
Don't be like that na. He is a human being. No on deserves a stab on the neck
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by purafapi: 5:27pm On Aug 15, 2022
AntiChristian:
I no even get anything about the topic!

We know the Holy Spirit of the Christians is false/non-existent!

So whatever Christians say here is false! They just shop for whatever lies they can use to blackmail Islam.

This Satanic Verses is based on a false report. Ibn Katheer and others said:

There is no saheeh isnaad from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) concerning this report, which says that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) “recited Soorat al-Najm to the mushrikeen until he reached the verses (interpretation of the meaning) ‘Have you then considered Al-Laat, and Al-‘Uzzaa (two idols of the pagan Arabs),And Manaat (another idol of the pagan Arabs), the other third?’ [al-Najm 53:19-20 – interpretation of the meaning]. Then the Shaytaan put words into the mouth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and he said: ‘they are the exalted gharaneeq, whose intercession is to be hopedfor.’ The kuffaar were pleased with this praise of their three idols, so they prostrated.”

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The report is true, it was written in the Biography of Muhammad by Ibn Ishaq. The incident was even recorded in Sahih al-Bukhari: vol. 2, bk. 19, no. 177, though Bukhari removed the embarrassing part. It however worth noting, that when the verse 53 was recited by Muhammad, both the Muslims, the pagans, the jinns all prostrated.

What could make the pagans prostrate if not the when Muhammad praised the gods of the pagans.

See evidence:
Narrated Ibn Abbas: The Prophet prostrated while reciting An-Najm [sura 53] and with him prostrated the Muslims, the pagans, the jinns, and all human beings. (Sahih al-Bukhari: vol. 2, bk. 19, no. 177)
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by Ovacoma: 5:48pm On Aug 15, 2022
AntiChristian:
I no even get anything about the topic!

We know the Holy Spirit of the Christians is false/non-existent!

So whatever Christians say here is false! They just shop for whatever lies they can use to blackmail Islam.

This Satanic Verses is based on a false report. Ibn Katheer and others said:

There is no saheeh isnaad from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) concerning this report, which says that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) “recited Soorat al-Najm to the mushrikeen until he reached the verses (interpretation of the meaning) ‘Have you then considered Al-Laat, and Al-‘Uzzaa (two idols of the pagan Arabs),And Manaat (another idol of the pagan Arabs), the other third?’ [al-Najm 53:19-20 – interpretation of the meaning]. Then the Shaytaan put words into the mouth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and he said: ‘they are the exalted gharaneeq, whose intercession is to be hopedfor.’ The kuffaar were pleased with this praise of their three idols, so they prostrated.”

This report is undoubtedly false on a number of counts.

1. Its isnaad is very weak and is not saheeh.

2.The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was infallible with regard to the conveying of his Message.

3.Even if this report was saheeh, for argument’s sake, the scholars have stated that it is to be understood as meaning that the Shaytaan caused the kuffaar to hear these words, not that he put them in the mouth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), so they heard them from him.

See Ibn Katheer’s refutation of this in his tafseer of Soorat al-Hajj 22:52. And Allaah knows best.

Definition of Isnaad
the chain of authorities attesting to the historical authenticity of a particular hadith.
Without these and other lies, Islam dies
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by AntiChristian: 5:37am On Aug 16, 2022
Ovacoma:

Without these and other lies, Islam dies

Yeah, just as we say the Isnaad of your Bible is weak!

Who did Luke get his information from?

Who did Mark get his from?

Who did Matthew get the birth of Jesus from?

All these don't bother Christians!

Na Islam be their problem!

We have authentication of our Hadith. And it wasn't authenticated today!

Stop bringing judgement from weak in references!

Holy spirit should guide you better!
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by AntiChristian: 5:42am On Aug 16, 2022
purafapi:


The report is true, it was written in the Biography of Muhammad by Ibn Ishaq. The incident was even recorded in Sahih al-Bukhari: vol. 2, bk. 19, no. 177, though Bukhari removed the embarrassing part. It however worth noting, that when the verse 53 was recited by Muhammad, both the Muslims, the pagans, the jinns all prostrated.

What could make the pagans prostrate if not the when Muhammad praised the gods of the pagans.

See evidence:
Narrated Ibn Abbas: The Prophet prostrated while reciting An-Najm [sura 53] and with him prostrated the Muslims, the pagans, the jinns, and all human beings. (Sahih al-Bukhari: vol. 2, bk. 19, no. 177)

The Sahih Bukhari is authentic but your holy spirit preferred reference is weak!

You can follow your delusional holy spirit choice while I follow the authentic Sahih Bukhari.

Your proof is weak!
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by purafapi: 7:35am On Aug 16, 2022
AntiChristian:


The Sahih Bukhari is authentic but your holy spirit preferred reference is weak!

You can follow your delusional holy spirit choice while I follow the authentic Sahih Bukhari.

Your proof is weak!

Muslims claimed the proof was weak before the incidence was an embarrassment. Ask yourself, why would the Pagans postrate themselves together with the Muslims as recorded in Quran 53. We all know that Muhammads father was an Idol worshiper. His family were Idol worshippers. His Quraysh tribe were Idol worshippers. He himself was rebuked by Jibril for Idolatry, although he claimed to be a prophet of allah .

Finally it was Waraqah ibn Nawfal a Christian that confirm that Muhammad was indeed a Prophet. Waraqah ibn Nawfal made Muhammad a prophet!

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Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by Ovacoma: 10:39pm On Aug 17, 2022
The god of quran claim no one can make verses like quran. The devil took up the challenge and showed allah and his prophet that the claim was stupid.

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Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by Cordenify(m): 1:02am On Aug 18, 2022
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by AntiChristian: 6:40am On Aug 18, 2022
purafapi:


Muslims claimed the proof was weak before the incidence was an embarrassment. Ask yourself, why would the Pagans postrate themselves together with the Muslims as recorded in Quran 53. We all know that Muhammads father was an Idol worshiper. His family were Idol worshippers. His Quraysh tribe were Idol worshippers. He himself was rebuked by Jibril for Idolatry, although he claimed to be a prophet of allah .

Finally it was Waraqah ibn Nawfal a Christian that confirm that Muhammad was indeed a Prophet. Waraqah ibn Nawfal made Muhammad a prophet!

All these your claims are baseless!
Where are your authentic proofs?

Story books or what?
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by purafapi: 9:36am On Aug 24, 2022
AntiChristian:


All these your claims are baseless!
Where are your authentic proofs?

Story books or what?

Bro, its your Muslim books. Dont throw your scholars and their books under the bus. It could be very embarrassing defending Muhammad.
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by Ovacoma: 10:21pm On Aug 24, 2022
purafapi:


Bro, its your Muslim books. Dont throw your scholars and their books under the bus. It could be very embarrassing defending Muhammad.
The followers of muhaMad man are really trying, they have to lie , manipulate, deceive , etc to be able to defend him and present him to people as a good and true prophet! Imagine a sane human being defending a man full of all these atrocities!!

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Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by AntiChristian: 6:30am On Aug 25, 2022
purafapi:


Bro, its your Muslim books. Dont throw your scholars and their books under the bus. It could be very embarrassing defending Muhammad.

As far as i know the evidences from your side are weak! Why are you guys always attracted to weak arguments in Islam?

There's nothing to be defended in Islam.
Islam is capable of defending itself as only those with understanding can relate!

Not the Holy spirit wielding devilish Christian after cheap argument against anti Christian!
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by true2god: 8:38am On Aug 25, 2022
AntiChristian:


As far as i know the evidences from your side are weak! Why are you guys always attracted to weak arguments in Islam?

There's nothing to be defended in Islam.
Islam is capable of defending itself as only those with understanding can relate!

Not the Holy spirit wielding devilish Christian after cheap argument against anti Christian!
So you no longer believe in your seerah and hadith.
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by AntiChristian: 8:43am On Aug 25, 2022
true2god:
So you no longer believe in your seerah and hadith.

Seerah means "Story" It can be true, false or a mix of both!

Hadith too can be authentic or weak!

So which Authentic hadith did you present here?

I believe in the Qur'an and Authentic Hadiths!
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by purafapi: 11:39am On Oct 15, 2022
AntiChristian:


Seerah means "Story" It can be true, false or a mix of both!

Hadith too can be authentic or weak!

So which Authentic hadith did you present here?

I believe in the Qur'an and Authentic Hadiths!

Who grades the Hadiths as Authentic?

Are there Authentic Hadiths? What are there names?

If they are authentic, what happens when you come across things that offend your sensibilty?

Do you say those ones are not authentic?
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by Samunique(m): 1:11pm On Oct 15, 2022
purafapi:


Muslims claimed the proof was weak before the incidence was an embarrassment. Ask yourself, why would the Pagans postrate themselves together with the Muslims as recorded in Quran 53. We all know that Muhammads father was an Idol worshiper. His family were Idol worshippers. His Quraysh tribe were Idol worshippers. He himself was rebuked by Jibril for Idolatry, although he claimed to be a prophet of allah .

Finally it was Waraqah ibn Nawfal a Christian that confirm that Muhammad was indeed a Prophet. Waraqah ibn Nawfal made Muhammad a prophet!
Including his overaged widow wife Khadija !!!
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by AntiChristian: 8:32am On Oct 16, 2022
purafapi:


Who grades the Hadiths as Authentic?

Are there Authentic Hadiths? What are there names?

If they are authentic, what happens when you come across things that offend your sensibilty?

Do you say those ones are not authentic?

Hadiths are graded according to well known criteria by scholars of hadiths.

There are many hadiths that are authentic from many scholars and compiler of hadiths!

How will an Hadith offend my sensibility if i understand the settings, context and depth?

The authenticity of an Hadith is not dependent on the sensibility of its content!
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by purafapi: 4:58pm On Oct 29, 2022
AntiChristian:


Hadiths are graded according to well known criteria by scholars of hadiths.

There are many hadiths that are authentic from many scholars and compiler of hadiths!

How will an Hadith offend my sensibility if i understand the settings, context and depth?

The authenticity of an Hadith is not dependent on the sensibility of its content!

Point at least one hadiths that you are comfortable with. We have had situation where we quote hadith that present Mohammed in a bad light, only for Muslims to say thats not true, even though it is written in the hadith. Maybe, Muslims dont have Hadiths or they do not sufficiently know their prophet.

For example, at some point in Mohammeds life, he was insane. This was reported in Hadith.

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Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by AntiChristian: 5:28pm On Oct 29, 2022
purafapi:


Point at least one hadiths that you are comfortable with. We have had situation where we quote hadith that present Mohammed in a bad light, only for Muslims to say thats not true, even though it is written in the hadith. Maybe, Muslims dont have Hadiths or they do not sufficiently know their prophet.

For example, at some point in Mohammeds life, he was insane. This was reported in Hadith.

I should be quoting hadith to person wey no get insight? I can't waste time.
Yeah, At some point in Jesus's life his family called him insane!

When His family heard about this, they went out to take custody of Him, saying, “He (Jesus) is insane.” Mark 3:21
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by purafapi: 5:38pm On Oct 29, 2022
AntiChristian:


I should be quoting hadith to person wey no get insight? I can't waste time.
Yeah, At some point in Jesus's life his family called him insane!

When His family heard about this, they went out to take custody of Him, saying, “He (Jesus) is insane.” Mark 3:21


"When His family heard about this"

What did his family hear?
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by AntiChristian: 5:40pm On Oct 29, 2022
purafapi:



"When His family heard about this"

What did his family hear?

You should consult the holy spirit and tell us?
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by purafapi: 5:53pm On Oct 29, 2022
AntiChristian:


You should consult the holy spirit and tell us?

It shows you quoted something that you do not understand.

Let me explain since you do not know. Thats how Christians analyse their scriptures, which Muslims dont normally, for allah knows best they say.


The background starts from Verse 1.

Jesus did many miracles on Saturday. Saturday is considered a holy day in Israel, Jews do not work on Saturdays.

Jesus doing these miracles on Saturday while claiming to be the Messiah was something the people consider madness. Jesus, the Messiah was supposed to uphold the culture and traditions of the Jews. So, going contrary to it while saying He was the messiah was worth to be called madness in their own opinion.

Can you explain this verse below just as I have tried to explain the verse you presented?

Narrated Aisha:
Once the Prophet was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, Number 400)
Re: Salaman Rushdie: The Satanic Verse, What Are They? by PastorAIO: 10:54am On Oct 30, 2022
AntiChristian:


You should consult the holy spirit and tell us?

Mr Man, you’re being disingenuous and not talking in good faith.

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