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Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:26am On Sep 12, 2022
The federal government has sued ASUU since they have been unreasonable with negotiations.

They have been unreasonable since day one such as seeking over 150% salary increment and adopting a self-designed payment platform among others.

I want the government to understand that ASUU is a loser! And they can't win this case anywhere.

They are very much aware of the "No Work, No Pay" policy.

A Policy is a deliberate system of guidelines to guide decisions and achieve rational outcomes. In this case, FG imposed this policy to put an end to yearly strikes from ASUU.

Because ASUU is now accustomed to striking for as long as they want. Then they'll resume, get paid for all the months they did not work for, and then come stamp their foot in the ground in lecture theater while claiming that "they'll get paid irrespective of whether they come to class or not"

The union will show no concern for students who will lose passion for schooling, diversify into crime, etc.

The FG should not be intimidated by how many SANS ASUU has hired to defend them. It is "NO WORK, NO PAY" and not "No work, Get Paid Later"

A policy is a policy!

Let the government stand with this until the end, and let's see if we won't end ASUU yearly strikes!

The best FG can do is to give them one month's salary, because all the backlog of work they claim they'll do is not up to a month

It is always two weeks of revision, and two weeks of examination. Then students will fail, and many students will digress from bagging a good grade. That is the usual tradition, and why most 2.1 students will end up bagging 2.2. (I stand to be corrected!)

They can't win this case anywhere. I support the motion because ASUU is arrogant while always comparing itself with politicians.

What business do you have with how much the federal government is paying bandits for holding humans hostage? Why are they applying the same strategy in pushing their demands?

What business do they have with how politicians are living, or how they spend their money?

The federal government has done all it can to end this strike, but ASUU is the one that chose to stress this strike while using the government's flaws against them to gain public sympathy.

We've seen how ASUU members are always quick to insult people who are against them, and we've once seen their president insult the minister of labor on live TV. That's evidence of their arrogant nature while pressing their demands

ASUU should be made to understand that you don't DICTATE to your employer. It's never done anywhere!


The best you can do is to beg and ask for better working conditions. If you say you want a 180% salary increment and the government says we can only afford to give 25% you are expected to beg, and not prove superior to your employers.

ASUU is not willing to beg. They believe they have equal rights with politicians, and they keep displaying their arrogant nature.

We've all seen how ASUU members are always quick to insult anyone against them or anyone who advises them to try other approaches.

For example, we've seen the ASUU president insult the minister of labor on live TV. That is evidence of how arrogant they are when on the negotiation table.

The federal government cannot overdo it because federal university lecturers are not the only civil servants in Nigeria.

Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by immortalcrown(m): 11:34am On Sep 12, 2022
Na still Nigerian court and Nigerian judge go handle am for court. In conclusion, na the same thing.

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Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:40am On Sep 12, 2022
I support the FG. how can you demand for payment when you did not work? for what? are you stewpid?

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Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by YeyeGbami: 11:46am On Sep 12, 2022
Obo n gbe obo pon.

If they are asking for 150%, give them 75% make dem use hold body first.

Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:46am On Sep 12, 2022
immortalcrown:
Na still Nigerian court and Nigerian judge go handle am for court. In conclusion, na the same thing.

The law has no respect for anybody.

ASUU cannot claim ignorant of the policy since march.

Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:47am On Sep 12, 2022
YeyeGbami:
Obo n gbe obo pon.

If they are asking for 150%, give them 75% make dem use hold body first.

75% is still much.

50% is reasonable enough!
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by immortalcrown(m): 11:52am On Sep 12, 2022
Oblivion34:
The law has no respect for anybody.
Leave the law out of this argument. The law does not implement itself. Talk about the court and the judges. How competent and just are they?
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:00pm On Sep 12, 2022
immortalcrown:
Leave the law out of this argument. The law does not implement itself. Talk about the court and the judges. How competent and just are they?

You are writing out of context.

Let's go by the book (Law). A policy is a policy, and no body can say they were not aware. They chose to keep stressing the strike, while expecting to bear the consequences

If we are to also judge by competency. How many professors are competent enough to lecture? Most of them can't even mark scripts by theirselves because they are too old to see clearly.

How many professors come to classes to lecture?


Nobody is perfect
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by YeyeGbami: 12:05pm On Sep 12, 2022
Oblivion34:


75% is still much.

50% is reasonable enough!

Yes of course.

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Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by immortalcrown(m): 12:16pm On Sep 12, 2022
Oblivion34:


You are writing out of context.

Let's go by the book (Law). A policy is a policy, and no body can say they were not aware. They chose to keep stressing the strike, while expecting to bear the consequences

If we are to also judge by competency. How many professors are competent enough to lecture? Most of them can't even mark scripts by theirselves because they are too old to see clearly.

How many professors come to classes to lecture?


Nobody is perfect
You are the one writing out of context. I never mentioned the law in my comment. I just said the case will be handled by Nigerian judges in a Nigerian court. You responded as if I claim you misinterpret the law.
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:03am On Sep 16, 2022
immortalcrown:
You are the one writing out of context. I never mentioned the law in my comment. I just said the case will be handled by Nigerian judges in a Nigerian court. You responded as if I claim you misinterpret the law.

What's your point?
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by immortalcrown(m): 9:02am On Sep 16, 2022
Oblivion34:
What's your point?
Suing ASUU may be effective but it does not guarantee immediate end of the strike.
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by adekolaelect(m): 9:23am On Sep 16, 2022
immortalcrown:
Leave the law out of this argument. The law does not implement itself. Talk about the court and the judges. How competent and just are they?
are you telling us court we should not recognise court of law anymore? Court is still the last hope for all Nigerians and even government.we can't cut the whole head in the name of headache. We should not allow our emotional feelings to condemn our Institutions . We many Nigerians are sentimental negatively bcs we always insult and blame government for anything even if the second party is giulty .
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by immortalcrown(m): 10:05am On Sep 16, 2022
adekolaelect:
are you telling us court we should not recognise court of law anymore? Court is still the last hope for all Nigerians and even government.we can't cut the whole head in the name of headache. We should not allow our emotional feelings to condemn our Institutions . We many Nigerians are sentimental negatively bcs we always insult and blame government for anything even if the second party is giulty .
Until you point out where I said you should not recognize the court, you are either confused or deliberately deviating.
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by 9jatriot(m): 10:25am On Sep 16, 2022
Even though you have made very strong points, there is no need for FG to go to court on the matter. They should just implement the no work no pay and keep it at that.

They should also ask the VCs of all the universities to declare their universities open for any lecturer that want to resume. Once this is done, you will see many of the lecturers who are not part of the executives feeding fat on the strike will begin to resume.
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Lanretoye(m): 10:32am On Sep 16, 2022
Oblivion34:


You are writing out of context.

Let's go by the book (Law). A policy is a policy, and no body can say they were not aware. They chose to keep stressing the strike, while expecting to bear the consequences

If we are to also judge by competency. How many professors are competent enough to lecture? Most of them can't even mark scripts by theirselves because they are too old to see clearly.

How many professors come to classes to lecture?


Nobody is perfect
can u imagine this from someone who hasn't even graduated.your level of reasoning correlates with the quality of education u have,thats what aasu is saying.the government you are supporting can't even send their children to nigerian universities.
If the only thing you know about the cause of the strike is salary increament,just drop out if u are in the university.
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by adekolaelect(m): 10:33am On Sep 16, 2022
immortalcrown:
Until you point out where I said you should not recognize the court, you are either confused or deliberately deviating.
not confused or deviated but when we talk of court but you are trying to ask the question that validated you as among who don't believe in court of law . Now what do you want us to do or to start war?
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by immortalcrown(m): 11:49am On Sep 16, 2022
adekolaelect:
not confused or deviated but when we talk of court but you are trying to ask the question that validated you as among who don't believe in court of law . Now what do you want us to do or to start war?
I did not and will not tell you what to do. I just made my point. Do whatever you like. I have made my point.
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by adekolaelect(m): 3:18pm On Sep 16, 2022
immortalcrown:
I did not and will not tell you what to do. I just made my point. Do whatever you like. I have made my point.
Even a baseless point will remain a point when there is no truth to trash it. Now your point remain trashed.
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by immortalcrown(m): 5:06pm On Sep 16, 2022
adekolaelect:
Even a baseless point will remain a point when there is no truth to trash it. Now your point remain trashed.
Only a shallow brain like yours will produce what you typed here. Nigerian judges have on several occasions turned the constitution up-side-down in courts. You are here acting as if injustice has never been obtained in a Nigerian court. My point is that suing ASUU does not guarantee justice.
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by WhizdomXX(m): 6:24pm On Sep 16, 2022
Good move actually.

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Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:43pm On Sep 21, 2022
9jatriot:
Even though you have made very strong points, there is no need for FG to go to court on the matter. They should just implement the no work no pay and keep it at that.

They should also ask the VCs of all the universities to declare their universities open for any lecturer that want to resume. Once this is done, you will see many of the lecturers who are not part of the executives feeding fat on the strike will begin to resume.



There's no need to go to court.

So ASUU will demand for their withheld salaries before they call off strike.

Then they will have the balls to declare 5 years strike tomorrow because their paycheck is guaranteed in the long run.

The union claim to be intellectual, but they are the opposite


At least for once FG has shown them that they are still their superior, and not the other way around!
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:46pm On Sep 21, 2022
Lanretoye:
can u imagine this from someone who hasn't even graduated.your level of reasoning correlates with the quality of education u have,thats what aasu is saying.the government you are supporting can't even send their children to nigerian universities.
If the only thing you know about the cause of the strike is salary increament,just drop out if u are in the university.

Who said I am yet to graduate?

I am currently running my 3rd degree program.


I am not supporting anyone. All my points are unbiased.

You have no business with whether the government children are not schooling here. You can also send your kids abroad if you can afford it
Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by 9jatriot(m): 2:55pm On Sep 21, 2022
I guess you are right. I suspect FG is planning something for them but they want to play it by the books. This may be a first step in the many things ahead. Many of them will inadvertently sack themselves very soon.

With that judgement, students will now be more on the side of FG than on ASUU.

The truth is that many lecturers are tired of the strik,, na shame non let ASUU leadership call off strike. They know they misfired, they were banking on next year election.

Oblivion34:



There's no need to go to court.

So ASUU will demand for their withheld salaries before they call off strike.

Then they will have the balls to declare 5 years strike tomorrow because their paycheck is guaranteed in the long run.

The union claim to be intellectual, but they are the opposite


At least for once FG has shown them that they are still their superior, and not the other way around!

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