Who will be right at the end

In my view , Christians have nothing to lose if it is discovered that there is no life after death.

But if it turns out Christians were right , it will be the largest gathering of usless prayers in hellfire,

Tunechi5:
Who will be right at the end

These are human bodies in afterlife, how come? bwahahahah

Na lie.
Christians if atheists are right:

Tunechi5:
Who will be right at the end

Wait till you find out the muslims are right.. or the Hindus.. or if you're catholic.. wait till you find out the protestants were right. Wait till you find out any of the other religions or sects or doctrines other than yours are right.

Trying to reduce the nature of the afterlife, if such a thing exists, to a mere game of dice or probability is one of the worst things you can do in support of your faith

Jashub:
In my view , Christians have nothing to lose if it is discovered that there is no life after death.

But if it turns out that Christians were right , it will be the largest historical gathering of usless prayers in hellfire,

God is merciful. He wants all to repent and many will by the some earthshaking events begin to happen. At that time you will see all these fake nairaland atheists preaching repentance.

live your life to the fullest today, and repent on your death bed....et voila!

Wilgrea7:


Wait till you find out the muslims are right.. or the Hindus.. or if you're catholic.. wait till you find out the protestants were right. Wait till you find out any of the other religions or sects or doctrines other than yours are right.

We are all already waiting!

MrBrownJay1:
live your life to the fullest today, and repent on your death bed....et voila!

Just found out yesterday that just like Saul, Esau too could not make it when he was alive and trying to repent.

For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Hebrews 12:17

So that death bed repentance, is already dead while the person is still even living.

Dtruthspeaker:


We are all already waiting!

Yeah.. just as the rest of us are also waiting for your Jesus to come back

2000 years and counting.

Not the kind of guy you'd take a punctuality lesson from

Wilgrea7:


Yeah.. just as the rest of us are also waiting for your Jesus to come back

2000 years and counting.

Not the kind of guy you'd take a punctuality lesson from

He clearly said that He was not going to come until after a certain event occurs.

And inspite of the other prophecies which have now passed, this specific event is still flowing down.

So the waiting continues.

Dtruthspeaker:


He clearly said that He was not going to come until after a certain event occurs.

And inspite of the other prophecies which have now passed, this specific event is still flowing down.

So the waiting continues.

1. Your mans said some people standing then would not taste death until they saw the son of man coming in his glory. News flash.. everyone who was standing there is now long dead.

2. He regularly said things like "behold, I come quickly".. well... 2000 years isn't "quick"

3. So you're saying if that event never happens, your Jesus won't come back? If you love him so much, why not facilitate to make the event happen? If he is indeed all powerful, why can't he himself make the event happen? Why waste people's precious time?

Tunechi5:
Who will be right at the end

lol

So if atheists are right, there is no harm done, but if christians are right, people will be tortured in molten lava.

Lmao. Somehow, christians their beliefs are the epitome of morality and goodness.

Jashub:
In my view , Christians have nothing to lose if it is discovered that there is no life after death.

But if it turns out Christians were right , it will be the largest gathering of usless prayers in hellfire,

Another wonderful christian.

KnownUnknown:


Another wonderful christian.

Another dead atheist

Both are total misconceptions!
God's judgment has nothing to do with suffering after death because at death humans becomes lifeless {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} God has no business with the dead since there is no harm they can cause {Ecclesiastes 9:4} that's why at death man has fully paid for his sins {Romans 6:23} and so he is discharged of all his sins! Romans 6:7

The only thing a believer is entitled to that no atheist can get is a call back to life {Job 14:13-15} since atheists have forgotten their Creator they will also be forgotten in their graves (hell) {Psalms 9:17} when God swallow up death forever {Isaiah 25:8} and call those who knew God's standard and lived by it (RIGHTEOUS) and those who are not opportuned to know God's standard but lived by conscience (UNRIGHTEOUS) {Act 24:15} God will remember such people because they proved their worth even though they never knew God's law! Romans 2:15

But as for those who deliberately chose to ignore God completely they will spend their time and after their expiration date they will not be remembered for anything after all they had no record with God! Matthew 6:19-21

MaxInDHouse:
Both are total misconceptions!
God's judgment has nothing to do with suffering after death because at death humans becomes lifeless {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} God has no business with the dead since there is no harm they can cause {Ecclesiastes 9:4} that's why at death man has fully paid for his sins {Romans 6:23} and so he is discharged of all his sins! Romans 6:7

The only thing a believer is entitled to that no atheist can get is a call back to life {Job 14:13-15} since atheists have forgotten their Creator they will also be forgotten in their graves (hell) when God swallow up death forever {Isaiah 25:8} and call those who knew God's standard and lived by it (RIGHTEOUS) and those who are not opportuned to know God's standard but lived by conscience (UNRIGHTEOUS) {Act 24:15} God will remember such people because they proved their worth even though they never knew God's law! Romans 2:15

But as for those who deliberately chose to ignore God completely they will spend their time and after their expiration date they will not be remembered for anything after all they had no record with God! Matthew 6:19-21

Another JW on the beat

Why do you blokes forget that Jesus always spoke more about hell than heaven ? In Mark 9:44 Jesus plainly said there is a place(hell)where their worms do not die and the fire is not quench . Why skip that part when you know that it is in your bible?

Dtruthspeaker:
Just found out yesterday that just like Saul, Esau too could not make it when he was alive and trying to repent.
For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Hebrews 12:17
So that death bed repentance, is already dead while the person is still even living.

again, your holybook is full of repentance talk... so again, so long as you repent on your death bed, there is NO WAY you wont be saved...
pls, abide by your holybook teachings or dont, but dont selfishly take what only fits your narrow minded agenda.

Jashub:

Another JW on the beat
Why do you blokes forget that Jesus always spoke more about hell than heaven ? In Mark 9:44 Jesus plainly said there is a place(hell)where their worms do not die and the fire is not quench . Why skip that part when you know that it is in your bible?

First of all agents of Satan added to the account found in the Bible book of Mark for instance Mark never penned down verse 44, 46 these verses were added Jesus spoke in PARABLES at verse 48. In fact the Bible book of Mark 16 ended at verse 8 not 20.
Thirdly Jesus taught so many things using PARABLES that's why misinformed Churchgoers concluded there's a life after death instead of a resurrection as thought by Jesus!

For further enlightenment check these verses in other Bible versions then come back to tell everyone here what you find there!

Jashub:
Another dead atheist

An atheist doesn’t “believe in god”. I’m not an atheist. Your god is nonsense.

KnownUnknown:


An atheist doesn’t “believe in god”. I’m not an atheist. Your god is nonsense.

Like I said earlier, "another dead atheist "

MrBrownJay1:


again, your holybook is full of repentance talk... so again, so long as you repent on your death bed, there is NO WAY you wont be saved...
pls, abide by your holybook teachings or dont, but dont selfishly take what only fits your narrow minded agenda.

The Holy Book clearly showed us examples of many people who tried repenting even before they died but nothing for them eg Esau, Saul, Solomon, Judas Iscariot, Hezekiah etc.

So anyone planning this, go get e go shock am!

Be not deceived;God is not mocked. Whatsoever a person soweth, that shall he also reap.

He who plants evil will harvest evil!

Wilgrea7:

1. Your mans said some people standing then would not taste death until they saw the son of man coming in his glory. News flash.. everyone who was standing there is now long dead.

Change of Post!

Wilgrea7:

2. He regularly said things like "behold, I come quickly".. well... 2000 years isn't "quick"

This should have told you how long He at first had in mind to wait such that His Coming is actually "quick".

Wilgrea7:

3. So you're saying if that event never happens, your Jesus won't come back? If you love him so much, why not facilitate to make the event happen? If he is indeed all powerful, why can't he himself make the event happen? Why waste people's precious time?

Did you not say you can wait?

So wait!

Dtruthspeaker:
The Holy Book clearly showed us examples of many people who tried repenting even before they died but nothing for them eg Esau, Saul, Solomon, Judas Iscariot, Hezekiah etc.
So anyone planning this, go get e go shock am!
Be not deceived;God is not mocked. Whatsoever a person soweth, that shall he also reap.He who plants evil will harvest evil!

as usual, you fake xtians are quick to try to selfishly use the holybook for your own selfish agenda... ANY SINNER WHO GENUINELY REPENT; GENUINELY GIVES THEIR LIFE TO CHRIST, CAN BE SAVED... so long as they follow the basic formula needed when seeking the gift of salvation.

have you ever heard of the repentant thief story? do i have to teach it to you? who are you to try to change the word of your prophet?!?!?!?
some of you people are real DEVILS IN DISGUISE!!!!
here educate yourself on the repentant thief on the cross:

Luke 23:40-43
But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.”Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom." Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

if in doubt, read the below verses:
John 3:16-17
or God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

MaxInDHouse:

First of all agents of Satan added to the account found in the Bible book of Mark for instance Mark never penned down verse 44, 46 these verses were added Jesus spoke in PARABLES at verse 48. In fact the Bible book of Mark 16 ended at verse 8 not 20.
Thirdly Jesus taught so many things using PARABLES that's why misinformed Churchgoers concluded there's a life after death instead of a resurrection as thought by Jesus!

For further enlightenment check these verses in other Bible versions then come back to tell everyone here what you find there!

So they also added it in

Psalms 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell [and] all the nations that forget God.

Or

Psalms 55:15
Let death seize upon them, [and] let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness [is] in their dwellings, [and] among them.

Among many other passages?

JW is deceiving you and you love to be deceived.

Any way it is your life and death as thou shalt have chosen.

MrBrownJay1:

... ANY SINNER WHO GENUINELY REPENT; GENUINELY GIVES THEIR LIFE TO CHRIST, CAN BE SAVED... so long as they follow the basic formula needed when seeking the gift of salvation.

have you ever heard of the repentant thief story?

I know it is the thief story you are relying upon and the error you are making is that you do not appreciate the difference between the thief and the people of the world today.

The thief was among the generation of people who met THE WORD OF LIFE in Person and he took THIS HIS FIRST AND LAST OPPORTUNITY TO BE SAVED.

But today, This same Word of Life flows all through the earth and many who refuse to take it, find themselves condemned already.

The same John 3 Warned you (as you conveniently left out verse 18 where you stopped in verse 17) which warned that

“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already,

Not will be condemned at his death but is condemned already!

Hebrews 2
Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.

2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, AND EVERY TRANSGRESSION AND DISOBEDIENCE RECEIVED a just recompence of reward;

3 How shall we escape, IF WE NEGLECT so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

The word is "neglect" or refuse to take up Salvation when it was offered or presented to you, that is when condemnation takes place!

Dtruthspeaker:
I know it is the thief story you are relying upon and the error you are making is that you do not appreciate the difference between the thief and the people of the world today.

The thief was among the generation of people who met THE WORD OF LIFE in Person and he took THIS HIS FIRST AND LAST OPPORTUNITY TO BE SAVED.
But today, This same Word of Life flows all through the earth and many who refuse to take it, find themselves condemned already.
The same John 3 Warned you (as you conveniently left out verse 18 where you stopped in verse 17) which warned that
“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already,
Not will be condemned at his death but is condemned already!

again, pls dont read your holybook upside down in order for it to fit your selfish agenda agenda.... anyone can repent on their deathbed, so long as they do it genuinely. repentance means to NOT believe any longer in the sins they were into and to give their life to christ. so a rapist who doesnt believe that raping is a good way of life, can repent on his deathbed and be "saved".

the problem here is that you people who followed your holybook all your life (and had to abide by its teaching) are SELFISH INDIVIDUALS who cant accept that someone who didnt follow your holybook can be saved just as you are. READ YOUR HOLYBOOK instead of using your evil mind to try to change the words written in your holybook. it is written as clear as day that ANYONE CAN REPENT (even on their deathbed) and be saved so long as they follow the basic formula needed when seeking the gift of salvation.

MrBrownJay1:

.... anyone can repent on their deathbed, so long as they do it genuinely.

I did not say that you can not try to repent even on your death bed, but would it be accepted by God?

Not likely.

I showed you that Hebrews shows Esau tried to repent, even with hot tears and he was not on his death bed and it did not work.

Well, it is your right to take such a risk!

MrBrownJay1:

the problem here is that you people who followed your holybook all your life (and had to abide by its teaching) are SELFISH INDIVIDUALS who cant accept that someone who didnt follow your holybook can be saved just as you are.

The people of Antioch did not follow the Bible all their lives nor the people at Galatia, Ephesus and Co.

But the profit lies in the fact that we see that it is when they heard it, they responded positively to it.

And I believe many have indeed heard that which was written in the Bible but as we see even here on nairaland, they wilfully vehemently reject and discard it, even while standing against it and resisting it.

Tunechi5:
Who will be right at the end

It is not based on scripture which instead indicates that only a born-again Christian can end up in either Heaven or Hell. And given that atheists are not born-again, well, who ever came up with that image never in fact read scripture before.

Dtruthspeaker:
I did not say that you can not try to repent even on your death bed, but would it be accepted by God?
Not likely.
I showed you that Hebrews shows Esau tried to repent, even with hot tears and he was not on his death bed and it did not work.
Well, it is your right to take such a risk!

you see...the above is exactly what i am talking about when i talk of you devil worshippers. see how you are saying that something that your prophet explicitely said it was possible, you are here saying that it aint (because of your selfish agenda). this is a true example of reading your holybook upside down. again, whether you like or not, STOP USING YOUR HOLYBOOK, CLAIMING LIES UPON LIES, FOR YOUR SELFISH AGENDA!
you people are working for the devil!!!!
BTW using the story of Saul who never repented and lied, is very cheap of you.

now here is again what it is written:
John 3:16-17
or God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

MrBrownJay1:

you people are working for the devil!!!!
BTW using the story of Saul who never repented and lied, is very cheap of you.

See 1 Samuel 15:24 - 31. Which was the last time Samuel went to Saul as God had casted him out and locked him out.

MrBrownJay1:

now here is again what it is written:
John 3:16-17
or God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,

And verse 19 of John 3
“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already.

Not will be condemned at his death!

And you keep saying "selfish agenda" when there Is nothing to gain from your living or your dying.

i have evn said it is your right to take such a risk with your which ought to have ended the matter.

I repeat, go the way as is it seemeth right to you, it is after all your own life and death and not mine.

Dtruthspeaker:
See 1 Samuel 15:24 - 31. Which was the last time Samuel went to Saul as God had casted him out.

as i said, you people are disciples of the devil, claiming rubbish online.... ok let me educate you:
Saul was told by god to "go and attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." but instead Saul kept some sheeps for himself, and when he was asked about it by Samuel, HE LIED and came up with stories as to why he kept the sheeps. and when Samuel kept on asking him, Saul kept on lying about it saying that he "obeyed the voice of the Lord”, which he didnt (since he kept sheeps for himself)... it is clear as day that Saul never took responsibility for his actions and instead try to blame it on someone/something else, while REPENTANCE is to accept that you have failed/sinned, and certainly NOT to blame your sins on others. so no wonder Saul was never "saved".

so again, ANYONE CAN REPENT (even on their deathbed) and be saved, so long as they follow the basic formula needed when seeking the gift of salvation.