Jesus returned back to the earth several times by today He is present on the earth even today Jesus shall not mean the external name and form but the internal unimaginable God existing as mediated Father of heaven. ‘Jesus’ comes back means God comes to this world in human form in every human generation to preach and uplift the human souls here through His excellent divine knowledge.


The names like Rama, Krishna, Jesus etc., belong to the external human body, which has taken birth. Such names are generated only after the birth of these human bodies. Therefore, such names are certainly the names of the external human bodies only, which are like the shirts. When the human bodies perish, these names also must perish. But these names exist as eternal names even after the disappearance of these human bodies due to death. The reason is that these names were directed towards the inner Lord even during the time of existence these human bodies.

A person is carrying vegetables for selling. You call him by the name “ Vegetables”. The person is not vegetable and the vegetables are not the person also. But the possessor of the vegetables is called by the name of the possessed material. Similarly, when the name “ Krishna or Jesus” was called, this name was directed towards the internal Lord also. Therefore, even if the human body perished, since the Lord is eternal, Krishna or Jesus is also eternal. When Krishna said that He will come again and again, whenever necessary ( Yada Yada hi….Gita), it means the eternal Lord present in the human body will come again and again through different human forms. Similarly, when it is told that Jesus will come again, it means the Lord present in that human body will come again. Here the names Krishna and Jesus indicate the Lord and not the human body.

When some body says that He will come again after 20 years, it does not mean that he will come in the same shirt. Even in the case of the ordinary human beings the name indicates the inner eternal soul also. When people say that Subba Rao died, it means that the name indicates the external human body. People say that Subba Rao’s last journey is today. It means that the name indicates only the external body, which is going to be cremated in the burial ground on that day. In these sayings the name indicates the external human body. But after one-year people say that today is the yearly ceremony of Subba Rao. When you have stated that Subba Rao finished his last journey one year back, how can you bring Subba Rao again after one year? Here the name indicates the inner soul. Therefore, even in the worldly terminology the name indicates both the external body and inner soul according to the context.

Therefore, when you say that Jesus was crucified and killed, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Jesus will come again on final day of destruction of this world, the name indicates the inner Lord. Thus, the same name indicates the external or internal item according to the context. When you say that Krishna danced in Brundavanam, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Krishna will come again and again whenever necessary, the name indicates the inner Lord. If you realise this discrimination, you have no quarrel with any religion. When you say that Jesus or Krishna will come again, it means that the inner Lord is going to come in different human bodies again. When you are drawing the picture of Jesus or Krishna, the picture represents the external human body only and not the inner Lord.

You can never draw the picture of the inner Lord because He is beyond the realm of imagination. You cannot say about the existence of two unimaginable Lords. When the Lord is unimaginable, He can be only one. If you say that there are two entities, it means that both the entities are imaginable. Therefore, you have to accept that there is only one unimaginable Lord or God. The external human bodies are different and cannot be one. When I say that Krishna is Jesus, it means that the Lord in the body of Krishna and in the body of Jesus is one and the same. It does not mean that the two different bodies are one and the same.



The next coming means coming again and again in human form to preach the spiritual knowledge whenever there is necessity as told by Gita (Yadaa Yadaa hi... Gita). Jesus told that He will come again. Did He tell that He will come once more only? Coming again refers the next visit, which does not mean the last visit.

When a relative leaves your house saying that he will come again, does it mean that he will come only once more, which will be last visit? You also tell him “please come again”. Does this mean that you are asking him to make the last visit to your house? Foolish interpretations come out from foolish people due to the over activity of their livers (Paitya Uddreka)!




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-By Shri Datta Swami

www.universal-spirituality.org



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Universal Spirituality for World Peace

You'd seem to be the one making foolish interpretations. See below, tge Bible spells out clearly the manner of the second comming.
Also Krishna never said he'd enter anyone's heart, or forgive anyone's sins or he'd grant people's prayers or that he was the ONLY way to the Father. Only Lord Jesus ever spoke like that

PoliteActivist:
You'd seem to be the one making foolish interpretations. See below, tge Bible spells out clearly the manner of the second comming.
Also Krishna never said he'd enter anyone's heart, or forgive anyone's sins or he'd grant people's prayers or that he was the ONLY way to the Father. Only Lord Jesus ever spoke like that

Merely accepting the human incarnation (Jesus) as the Saviour cannot save you. It is told in the Bible that He came to save His people. Who are His people? They are His beloved devotees. They follow His instructions. Jesus did not give any attention to His mother, when He was with His disciples. When a woman shouted that the Mother of Jesus was blessed, Jesus did not agree with her and said that blessed are those who followed His instructions. He says that one should leave parents, wife or husband, children and must be prepared even to carry his own cross for the sake of Jesus. This means that one should be prepared to sacrifice even his life. Therefore, it is a narrow path with thorns. Even to hear this statement your mind is turmoiled with chaotic disturbance. That is the reason why He says that He has come to give peace to you and that He is holding the sword of knowledge in His hand.

Therefore, you can be saved only when you reach that state. If you say to the judge that you accept him as your saviour, will he save you and cancel his judgement? If you say to the jailor that you will accept him as your saviour, will he release you from the jail? Therefore, Jesus saves only His dearest devotees. He underwent the suffering on the cross for the sake of only His people. He did not suffer for the sake of all people and He did not release all people from their sins. If such a thing is done, justice is destroyed. The divine administration becomes meaningless. When a devotee leaves everybody and everything for the sake of the human incarnation and participates in His service, such people are called as His people. Such devotees will never agree for the crucifixion of the Lord for the sake of their sins. Therefore, real saving is only at that stage.

Whether, it is Christianity or Hinduism the beginner cannot come forward if the final stage is shown in the beginning. In Hinduism the saints and in Christianity, the Popes, fathers, brothers and sisters, who are dedicated to the Divine Mission, have left everything and everybody for the sake of God. Actually only such holy saints can be saved since they live according to His prescribed standards. But if this fact is revealed, no common man will come forward. It is the tradition of the divine preacher to show the final result even in the first step. We say to the schoolboy that if he goes to school regularly and studies sincerely, he will become a professor.

It is only encouragement. Does that mean that the boy will be appointed as professor as soon as he finishes schooling? He gets encouraged and studies well in the school. Then he will go to college and university and study further. Then he will join as a lecturer, become a reader and then finally become the professor. Therefore, to attract beginners, such encouraging statements are made, which need not be condemned as lies. When a lie is beneficial, it cannot be called a sin. Even if it is the truth, but if it harms, it is a sin. We tell so many lies to our children to encourage them and our aim is only their welfare and not cheating them. Therefore, such statements should be accepted with reference to the level of the devotees.

To recognize God, then to recognize God as the King of this creation and then recognizing His ultimate underlying hidden administration in the entire creation is the essence of spiritual knowledge. We recognize the government and its administration in this world. It is clear because it is visible to the eyes. But God and His administration are invisible. Invisible does not mean non-existent. This world is filled with cosmic energy, which is invisible. That does not mean that cosmic energy does not exist.
You can experience the administration of God in every corner of your life. His administration applies to both living and non-living beings of the creation. The non-living sun, wind etc., move constantly following the rules of God. That invisible God comes as a visible human incarnation, and proves all this. When Jesus ordered the storm in the sea to stop, it subsided. Plants, birds, animals and all the human beings are all under His control. When Jesus told a tree to die, the tree died. Jesus controlled sheep and thus He controls animals and birds.

The human beings consist of atheists, normal human devotees and real devotees. He also controls the atheists. The disciple of Jesus cut the ear of a soldier who came to arrest Him. But Jesus attached the ear in the proper place. Thus His enemies were also under His control. The second type, (normal devotees) worships God for solving their worldly problems. He proved that they were also controlled by Him, when He cured their diseases etc. He saved the highest real devotees by suffering on the cross. Thus, He proved Himself to be the controller of all the non-living and living beings. This means that He is the controller of the entire creation. Recognizing this all-controlling administration in the entire world is the recognition of His kingdom. People thought that His kingdom was somewhere in the heaven, above the sky.

Jesus said that His kingdom was coming to earth. It means that the human beings on the earth have started recognizing His kingdom on earth, which already exists. There is no place, which is not in His kingdom. There is no king except the human incarnation like Jesus. He is the king of kings. Even Satan is an employee in His kingdom. This creation is created by Him for His entertainment. In a cinema, not only is the hero remunerated, but also the villain. Satan is used to test the devotees through his attractions. Thus Satan is required in the spiritual effort of the human being. In answering a multiple choice question, there are three wrong answers along with one correct answer. The three wrong answers represent Satan, which appear more correct and attract the mind. The power of discrimination of the student becomes more significant only in the presence of such wrong answers. What is the significance of happiness without misery? Nothing and none can oppose the Lord. Satan is required for His divine game.

dattaswami1:


Merely accepting the human incarnation (Jesus) as the Saviour cannot save you. It is told in the Bible that He came to save His people. Who are His people? They are His beloved devotees. They follow His instructions. Jesus did not give any attention to His mother, when He was with His disciples. When a woman shouted that the Mother of Jesus was blessed, Jesus did not agree with her and said that blessed are those who followed His instructions. He says that one should leave parents, wife or husband, children and must be prepared even to carry his own cross for the sake of Jesus. This means that one should be prepared to sacrifice even his life. Therefore, it is a narrow path with thorns. Even to hear this statement your mind is turmoiled with chaotic disturbance. That is the reason why He says that He has come to give peace to you and that He is holding the sword of knowledge in His hand.

Therefore, you can be saved only when you reach that state. If you say to the judge that you accept him as your saviour, will he save you and cancel his judgement? If you say to the jailor that you will accept him as your saviour, will he release you from the jail? Therefore, Jesus saves only His dearest devotees. He underwent the suffering on the cross for the sake of only His people. He did not suffer for the sake of all people and He did not release all people from their sins. If such a thing is done, justice is destroyed. The divine administration becomes meaningless. When a devotee leaves everybody and everything for the sake of the human incarnation and participates in His service, such people are called as His people. Such devotees will never agree for the crucifixion of the Lord for the sake of their sins. Therefore, real saving is only at that stage.

Whether, it is Christianity or Hinduism the beginner cannot come forward if the final stage is shown in the beginning. In Hinduism the saints and in Christianity, the Popes, fathers, brothers and sisters, who are dedicated to the Divine Mission, have left everything and everybody for the sake of God. Actually only such holy saints can be saved since they live according to His prescribed standards. But if this fact is revealed, no common man will come forward. It is the tradition of the divine preacher to show the final result even in the first step. We say to the schoolboy that if he goes to school regularly and studies sincerely, he will become a professor.

It is only encouragement. Does that mean that the boy will be appointed as professor as soon as he finishes schooling? He gets encouraged and studies well in the school. Then he will go to college and university and study further. Then he will join as a lecturer, become a reader and then finally become the professor. Therefore, to attract beginners, such encouraging statements are made, which need not be condemned as lies. When a lie is beneficial, it cannot be called a sin. Even if it is the truth, but if it harms, it is a sin. We tell so many lies to our children to encourage them and our aim is only their welfare and not cheating them. Therefore, such statements should be accepted with reference to the level of the devotees.

To recognize God, then to recognize God as the King of this creation and then recognizing His ultimate underlying hidden administration in the entire creation is the essence of spiritual knowledge. We recognize the government and its administration in this world. It is clear because it is visible to the eyes. But God and His administration are invisible. Invisible does not mean non-existent. This world is filled with cosmic energy, which is invisible. That does not mean that cosmic energy does not exist.
You can experience the administration of God in every corner of your life. His administration applies to both living and non-living beings of the creation. The non-living sun, wind etc., move constantly following the rules of God. That invisible God comes as a visible human incarnation, and proves all this. When Jesus ordered the storm in the sea to stop, it subsided. Plants, birds, animals and all the human beings are all under His control. When Jesus told a tree to die, the tree died. Jesus controlled sheep and thus He controls animals and birds.

The human beings consist of atheists, normal human devotees and real devotees. He also controls the atheists. The disciple of Jesus cut the ear of a soldier who came to arrest Him. But Jesus attached the ear in the proper place. Thus His enemies were also under His control. The second type, (normal devotees) worships God for solving their worldly problems. He proved that they were also controlled by Him, when He cured their diseases etc. He saved the highest real devotees by suffering on the cross. Thus, He proved Himself to be the controller of all the non-living and living beings. This means that He is the controller of the entire creation. Recognizing this all-controlling administration in the entire world is the recognition of His kingdom. People thought that His kingdom was somewhere in the heaven, above the sky.

Jesus said that His kingdom was coming to earth. It means that the human beings on the earth have started recognizing His kingdom on earth, which already exists. There is no place, which is not in His kingdom. There is no king except the human incarnation like Jesus. He is the king of kings. Even Satan is an employee in His kingdom. This creation is created by Him for His entertainment. In a cinema, not only is the hero remunerated, but also the villain. Satan is used to test the devotees through his attractions. Thus Satan is required in the spiritual effort of the human being. In answering a multiple choice question, there are three wrong answers along with one correct answer. The three wrong answers represent Satan, which appear more correct and attract the mind. The power of discrimination of the student becomes more significant only in the presence of such wrong answers. What is the significance of happiness without misery? Nothing and none can oppose the Lord. Satan is required for His divine game.

This is what happens when you try to apply limited human logic to devine issues - you end up confusing yourself. The Bible spells everything out clearly. See below. Also, hope you've accepted that Krishna was not like Lord Jesus

@dattaswami1, this one got me;

Even Satan is an employee in His kingdom. This creation is created by Him for His entertainment. In a cinema, not only is the hero remunerated, but also the villain. Satan is used to test the devotees through his attractions. Thus Satan is required in the spiritual effort of the human being. In answering a multiple choice question, there are three wrong answers along with one correct answer. The three wrong answers represent Satan, which appear more correct and attract the mind. The power of discrimination of the student becomes more significant only in the presence of such wrong answers. What is the significance of happiness without misery? Nothing and none can oppose the Lord. Satan is required for His divine game.

PoliteActivist:


This is what happens when you try to apply limited human logic to devine issues - you end up confusing yourself. The Bible spells everything out clearly. See below. Also, hope you've accepted that Krishna was not like Lord Jesus

See God or Heavenly Father alone came as Jesus to preach and uplift the humanity. Those who followed His preaching and loved HIm over anything in this world, such people got salvation. They are His disciples mostly. Those disciples could see God Jesus directly with their own eyes and they listened the divine knowledge coming out of His mouth directly without any middle men and they also could live with God Jesus, touched Him. Thus God Jesus gave all these facilities to them.


Since God Jesus is an impartial God, He comes to us in every human generation known as Human incarnation of God. Otherwise He become partial only to one generation alone.

OkCornel:
@dattaswami1, this one got me;

Even Satan is an employee in His kingdom. This creation is created by Him for His entertainment. In a cinema, not only is the hero remunerated, but also the villain. Satan is used to test the devotees through his attractions. Thus Satan is required in the spiritual effort of the human being. In answering a multiple choice question, there are three wrong answers along with one correct answer. The three wrong answers represent Satan, which appear more correct and attract the mind. The power of discrimination of the student becomes more significant only in the presence of such wrong answers. What is the significance of happiness without misery? Nothing and none can oppose the Lord. Satan is required for His divine game.

'Satan' means side attracting thoughts arising in us which take us away from God to the world. God and world are quite opposite to each other, if you love the world and its relations then you are against God. You cannot serve God and world together. You cannot put your both legs on 2 boats at the same time.

One shall love God and serve God treating Him as their own son without expecting anything in return from Him. Serving God is the sole aim of human life.

dattaswami1:


'Satan' means side attracting thoughts arising in us which take us away from God to the world. God and world are quite opposite to each other, if you love the world and its relations then you are against God. You cannot serve God and world together. You cannot put your both legs on 2 boats at the same time.

One shall love God and serve God treating Him as their own son without expecting anything in return from Him. Serving God is the sole aim of human life.

Loving God without expecting anything in return! That’s unconditional love.

Something close to that is the love a mother has for her newborn babe.

Truth and religion are not the same thing. Hopefully, mankind would be enlightened enough by the spirit of truth to understand this.

As I’ll always say;

“Take away the law, take away religion. Take away the fear of hell and the hope of heaven. Take away the prisons. If you cannot love God and your fellow human without incentives or fear of punishment, you’re a hypocrite”

OkCornel:


Loving God without expecting anything in return! That’s unconditional love.

Something close to that is the love a mother has for her newborn babe.

Truth and religion are not the same thing. Hopefully, mankind would be enlightened enough by the spirit of truth to understand this.

As I’ll always say;

“Take away the law, take away religion. Take away the fear of hell and the hope of heaven. Take away the prisons. If you cannot love God and your fellow human without incentives or fear of punishment, you’re a hypocrite”

You are right one shall love God rather than fear Him. The end goal of pravrutti(wordly life) is to bring down the strength of worldly bonds (with family and wealth) to the minimum level so that the sins (like illegal sex and corruption of money) are not done due to over-attraction to the worldly bonds. The end goal of Nivrutti is to reach the climax in the strength of single bond with God so that all the worldly bonds totally disappear. The goal of pravrutti can be reached in two ways:

1) Path of fear: Avoiding sins due to the fear for hell there and due to fear for God here also. Intensive sins are punished by God in this world and in this present birth itself. Other sins are punished by God in the hell after death. In this path, control in doing sins is obtained through fear only.

2) Path of devotion: Sins are avoided only due to devotion to God. Sins are not done because God is displeased. Since God is loved, the sins are avoided since we do not like to displease God whom we love so much.

By any one of the above two paths, the end goal of pravrutti (controlling sins) can be reached. But, if you are in the first path of fear, you cannot enter Nivrutti, the second stage after coming to the end of pravrutti. Hence, you do not have chance for Nivrutti in which God takes care of your entire protection like the mother cat carrying its child by mouth grip (marjala kishora nyaya). After achieving the goal of pravrutti, you have to stand on your efforts only. If you slip anywhere, at any time, from the path of justice, you will be punished as per the divine rule. You have to stand by the grip of your effort only with continuous caution like the child of monkey catching the womb of its mother during journey (markata kishora nyaya). But, if you reach the goal of pravrutti by the second path of devotion, you can enter Nivrutti with the same devotion, which is strengthened more and more in the phase of Nivrutti.

Devotion during the journey in pravrutti is like a passenger train whereas the same devotion train becomes express in Nivrutti (like Simhadri train is passenger from Guntur to Vijayawada and becomes express from Vijayawada to Vizag). In the path of devotion, there is no need of any change since it is a direct train travelling in both pravrutti and Nivrutti (same train from Guntur to Vijayawada). If you have reached the goal of pravrutti by the path of fear, you have to change the train and catch the path of advanced devotion running like express train. Therefore, if you control the sins due to devotion on God and not due to fear for God in pravrutti, it is the best and very convenient journey by a single train starting from the beginning of pravrutti up to the end of Nivrutti. However, reaching the goal of pravrutti is very important from the point of peace and balance of the world created by God. Any owner of an industry always wishes that his industry should run peacefully without any disturbance. Thus, the goal of pravrutti is the foremost aim of God. God in any human form appearing at any region of the Earth necessarily preaches the achievement of the goal of pravrutti to all the humanity without any exception. An employee pleasing the owner of industry personally is not mandatory to every soul (employee) and hence, Nivrutti is only secondary.

Pravrutti is forced on every human being in this world whereas Nivrutti is forced on God by a few devotees only. Hence, you must start the journey by single train of devotion, which is the best way to reach the end goal of Nivrutti. Elders say that one should have either fear (bhaya) or devotion (bhakti) to achieve some immediate goal, but, devotion is far better than fear. An atheist has neither fear nor devotion and will be responsible for the total destruction of humanity through his/her foolish and ignorant concept of atheism.

-By Shri Datta Swami
www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace

dattaswami1:


You are right one shall love God rather than fear Him. The end goal of pravrutti(wordly life) is to bring down the strength of worldly bonds (with family and wealth) to the minimum level so that the sins (like illegal sex and corruption of money) are not done due to over-attraction to the worldly bonds. The end goal of Nivrutti is to reach the climax in the strength of single bond with God so that all the worldly bonds totally disappear. The goal of pravrutti can be reached in two ways:

1) Path of fear: Avoiding sins due to the fear for hell there and due to fear for God here also. Intensive sins are punished by God in this world and in this present birth itself. Other sins are punished by God in the hell after death. In this path, control in doing sins is obtained through fear only.

2) Path of devotion: Sins are avoided only due to devotion to God. Sins are not done because God is displeased. Since God is loved, the sins are avoided since we do not like to displease God whom we love so much.

By any one of the above two paths, the end goal of pravrutti (controlling sins) can be reached. But, if you are in the first path of fear, you cannot enter Nivrutti, the second stage after coming to the end of pravrutti. Hence, you do not have chance for Nivrutti in which God takes care of your entire protection like the mother cat carrying its child by mouth grip (marjala kishora nyaya). After achieving the goal of pravrutti, you have to stand on your efforts only. If you slip anywhere, at any time, from the path of justice, you will be punished as per the divine rule. You have to stand by the grip of your effort only with continuous caution like the child of monkey catching the womb of its mother during journey (markata kishora nyaya). But, if you reach the goal of pravrutti by the second path of devotion, you can enter Nivrutti with the same devotion, which is strengthened more and more in the phase of Nivrutti.

Devotion during the journey in pravrutti is like a passenger train whereas the same devotion train becomes express in Nivrutti (like Simhadri train is passenger from Guntur to Vijayawada and becomes express from Vijayawada to Vizag). In the path of devotion, there is no need of any change since it is a direct train travelling in both pravrutti and Nivrutti (same train from Guntur to Vijayawada). If you have reached the goal of pravrutti by the path of fear, you have to change the train and catch the path of advanced devotion running like express train. Therefore, if you control the sins due to devotion on God and not due to fear for God in pravrutti, it is the best and very convenient journey by a single train starting from the beginning of pravrutti up to the end of Nivrutti. However, reaching the goal of pravrutti is very important from the point of peace and balance of the world created by God. Any owner of an industry always wishes that his industry should run peacefully without any disturbance. Thus, the goal of pravrutti is the foremost aim of God. God in any human form appearing at any region of the Earth necessarily preaches the achievement of the goal of pravrutti to all the humanity without any exception. An employee pleasing the owner of industry personally is not mandatory to every soul (employee) and hence, Nivrutti is only secondary.

Pravrutti is forced on every human being in this world whereas Nivrutti is forced on God by a few devotees only. Hence, you must start the journey by single train of devotion, which is the best way to reach the end goal of Nivrutti. Elders say that one should have either fear (bhaya) or devotion (bhakti) to achieve some immediate goal, but, devotion is far better than fear. An atheist has neither fear nor devotion and will be responsible for the total destruction of humanity through his/her foolish and ignorant concept of atheism.

-By Shri Datta Swami
www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace

In the scriptures, we attain ultimate devotion to the Uncreated One by walking in the Spirit.

Then we bear fruits of the Spirit such as love, self control etc.

Our spirit becomes one in partnership with the Spirit of the Uncreated One. All we do is trust and obey.

OkCornel:


In the scriptures, we attain ultimate devotion to the Uncreated One by walking in the Spirit.

Then we bear fruits of the Spirit such as love, self control etc.

Our spirit becomes one in partnership with the Spirit of the Uncreated One. All we do is trust and obey.

The point here is not to achieve this state of being free of the aspiration for any fruit in return with effort, but to attain this state in a natural and effortless manner. Take the case of our love for our children. Our love for them is real. We practically serve them and we sacrifice our money for them without expecting anything in return from them. Our practical service and the sacrifice of our money to them proves the genuineness of our love for them. The service and the sacrifice can be said to be our practical love for them. We do not even expect anything from them in return and continue our practical service and sacrifice to them even if they behave badly with us. This aspiration-free real love that we have for our children is natural.

It is not produced artificially by effort. We should feel such aspiration-free real love for God naturally. Such love arises spontaneously when we are impressed by His divine personality, which becomes known to us through spiritual knowledge. If we have to make efforts to develop such love for God, it not real and natural love. Instead, such effort is linked to our aspiration for some fruit from Him. It means that our real and natural love is only for our children. It also means that we are lying in our prayers to God when we say that God is above all worldly bonds for us or that God is higher than anybody or anything! We can fool any human being by telling lies, but not God!
Let us not say that it is impossible to love God without expecting anything in return. The word ‘impossible’ is an utter lie since we certainly love our children without any expectation. Would anyone believe if I were to say that I can lift a hill only in Mumbai and not in Delhi? If it is impossible, I should not be able to lift the hill in any place. But if it is possible in one place, how can I say that it is impossible in another place? So, we should frankly admit that we have real love only for our children and not for God. Our unreal love for God is based on the aspiration for some fruit in return.

Such aspiration-filled devotion for God is either prostitution-devotion or business-devotion. In the former type of devotion, we try to achieve practical boons from God in exchange for our words and mental feelings of devotion. Thus, prostitution devotion is expecting practical boons from God in exchange for our theoretical devotion. In the latter type of devotion, we try to achieve practical boons from God in exchange for some practical service and the sacrifice of some money. Thus, business devotion is expecting practical boons from God in exchange for our practical devotion.

We cannot say that even our devotion to our children is based on the aspiration for some fruit in return, such as the aspiration to be served during our old age. This is not true. Even if our children refuse to serve us in our old age, we neither change our will written in their favor nor do we keep silent if they require any urgent help from us at any time. At the most, we may scold them for their ungratefulness. But our true love for them, which is practically proved through our service and sacrifice for them, never changes!

We are afraid of the risk in serving God and sacrificing our wealth to Him without the aspiration for any fruit in return. We think “What if God does not help me in my time of need? All my efforts in serving Him and the wealth sacrificed to Him would be for nothing!” This is the exact point where we slip from the path! We have total confidence in our children, who are mere human beings, but we do not have even a bit of confidence in the omnipotent God! Our children are human beings having very little power, while God is omnipotent. You think that the omnipotent God will not help you even though you have shown your love for Him practically through service and sacrifice. It means you are assuming that God is ungrateful! How did you assume that God has such a poor character? Sometimes, our grown-up children are ungrateful to us. Even though they are capable of rendering service to us in our old age they do not serve us. They do not reciprocate the real love that we have for them. The reason for their lack of real love for us and the resulting ungratefulness is their ignorance. Due to ignorance, they have directed their real love towards other blind bonds instead of us. In other cases, the grown-up children might have difficulties of their own. Hence, they might be incapable of practically reciprocating our real love towards them. Thus, souls could be ignorant or incapable of rendering service to us in reciprocation.

But the omniscient and omnipotent God has no reason to unnecessarily avoid helping us in our difficulties. It is true that sometimes He does not help us and remains silent even when we are facing difficulties. The reason is that difficulties reform the soul and improve one’s devotion to God. Unless we are reformed, we will continue to rotate in the endless cycle of sins and punishments. So, God’s decision is always the best. Whether He helps us in our difficulties or whether He remains silent, it is for our greatest benefit. In whichever way He responds, He is always helping us.

We should establish a relationship with God based on real love. In real love, one does not keep accounts. There is no balance sheet, no debit and credit. If you keep accounts between you and God, it is not real love, it is business. Such devotion is called business devotion. Real love is not based on keeping accounts and such real love is eternal. Draupadi cried for help when she was being declothed in the royal court. God Krishna supplied unlimited saris to her without keeping accounts. Earlier, when His finger was cut, Draupadi, without hesitating, had torn her sari and used the piece of cloth to bandage His finger. If God Krishna had kept accounts, even after adding a lot of interest, the piece of cloth could never have become more than one sari!

The young son gives his salary in the hands of his mother. The husband gives his salary in the hands of his wife. The mother or the wife looks after all the needs and comforts of the son or the husband respectively. No account balance sheet is maintained for the amount of the salary handed over and the amount of comfort provided. No party aspires for any fruit in return from the other party. We should establish such a bond of real love with God. The mother or the wife is not omnipotent and might not be capable of providing all the comforts needed by the person. Both are ignorant and might not even be able to understand the person’s requirements each time. But God is omnipotent and omniscient. Sometimes, when the omnipotent and omniscient God remains silent even when we are facing difficulties, we should realize that there must be some very important valid reason for His silence. In such situations, His silence is undoubtedly in our best interest.
In this real love, which is not based on an account balance sheet, our love should be really real. What I mean is that our love should be real both inside and outside.

A certain devotee tried to develop such real love for God. He served God and sacrificed his wealth to God without aspiring for any fruit in return. Later, when the devotee faced some difficulties, God kept silent. This devotee said to God that he had expected unlimited love from God in reciprocation of his unlimited love for God! This statement made by him shows that his love for God was real only externally. Internally, it was unreal!

We must have real faith in God because He is omniscient. He knows our requirements even without our asking. He is omnipotent to meet any of our requirements, unlike other human souls. We have full faith in the ignorant and powerless humans, who are related to us. But we do not have even a bit of faith in the all-knowing, all-powerful and infinitely kind God. Is it not the height of blind foolishness?

He returned in the year 1914.

Which other second coming? Who come be this wey come Kenya ?

dattaswami1:


The point here is not to achieve this state of being free of the aspiration for any fruit in return with effort, but to attain this state in a natural and effortless manner. Take the case of our love for our children. Our love for them is real. We practically serve them and we sacrifice our money for them without expecting anything in return from them. Our practical service and the sacrifice of our money to them proves the genuineness of our love for them. The service and the sacrifice can be said to be our practical love for them. We do not even expect anything from them in return and continue our practical service and sacrifice to them even if they behave badly with us. This aspiration-free real love that we have for our children is natural.

It is not produced artificially by effort. We should feel such aspiration-free real love for God naturally. Such love arises spontaneously when we are impressed by His divine personality, which becomes known to us through spiritual knowledge. If we have to make efforts to develop such love for God, it not real and natural love. Instead, such effort is linked to our aspiration for some fruit from Him. It means that our real and natural love is only for our children. It also means that we are lying in our prayers to God when we say that God is above all worldly bonds for us or that God is higher than anybody or anything! We can fool any human being by telling lies, but not God!
Let us not say that it is impossible to love God without expecting anything in return. The word ‘impossible’ is an utter lie since we certainly love our children without any expectation. Would anyone believe if I were to say that I can lift a hill only in Mumbai and not in Delhi? If it is impossible, I should not be able to lift the hill in any place. But if it is possible in one place, how can I say that it is impossible in another place? So, we should frankly admit that we have real love only for our children and not for God. Our unreal love for God is based on the aspiration for some fruit in return.

Such aspiration-filled devotion for God is either prostitution-devotion or business-devotion. In the former type of devotion, we try to achieve practical boons from God in exchange for our words and mental feelings of devotion. Thus, prostitution devotion is expecting practical boons from God in exchange for our theoretical devotion. In the latter type of devotion, we try to achieve practical boons from God in exchange for some practical service and the sacrifice of some money. Thus, business devotion is expecting practical boons from God in exchange for our practical devotion.

We cannot say that even our devotion to our children is based on the aspiration for some fruit in return, such as the aspiration to be served during our old age. This is not true. Even if our children refuse to serve us in our old age, we neither change our will written in their favor nor do we keep silent if they require any urgent help from us at any time. At the most, we may scold them for their ungratefulness. But our true love for them, which is practically proved through our service and sacrifice for them, never changes!

We are afraid of the risk in serving God and sacrificing our wealth to Him without the aspiration for any fruit in return. We think “What if God does not help me in my time of need? All my efforts in serving Him and the wealth sacrificed to Him would be for nothing!” This is the exact point where we slip from the path! We have total confidence in our children, who are mere human beings, but we do not have even a bit of confidence in the omnipotent God! Our children are human beings having very little power, while God is omnipotent. You think that the omnipotent God will not help you even though you have shown your love for Him practically through service and sacrifice. It means you are assuming that God is ungrateful! How did you assume that God has such a poor character? Sometimes, our grown-up children are ungrateful to us. Even though they are capable of rendering service to us in our old age they do not serve us. They do not reciprocate the real love that we have for them. The reason for their lack of real love for us and the resulting ungratefulness is their ignorance. Due to ignorance, they have directed their real love towards other blind bonds instead of us. In other cases, the grown-up children might have difficulties of their own. Hence, they might be incapable of practically reciprocating our real love towards them. Thus, souls could be ignorant or incapable of rendering service to us in reciprocation.

But the omniscient and omnipotent God has no reason to unnecessarily avoid helping us in our difficulties. It is true that sometimes He does not help us and remains silent even when we are facing difficulties. The reason is that difficulties reform the soul and improve one’s devotion to God. Unless we are reformed, we will continue to rotate in the endless cycle of sins and punishments. So, God’s decision is always the best. Whether He helps us in our difficulties or whether He remains silent, it is for our greatest benefit. In whichever way He responds, He is always helping us.

We should establish a relationship with God based on real love. In real love, one does not keep accounts. There is no balance sheet, no debit and credit. If you keep accounts between you and God, it is not real love, it is business. Such devotion is called business devotion. Real love is not based on keeping accounts and such real love is eternal. Draupadi cried for help when she was being declothed in the royal court. God Krishna supplied unlimited saris to her without keeping accounts. Earlier, when His finger was cut, Draupadi, without hesitating, had torn her sari and used the piece of cloth to bandage His finger. If God Krishna had kept accounts, even after adding a lot of interest, the piece of cloth could never have become more than one sari!

The young son gives his salary in the hands of his mother. The husband gives his salary in the hands of his wife. The mother or the wife looks after all the needs and comforts of the son or the husband respectively. No account balance sheet is maintained for the amount of the salary handed over and the amount of comfort provided. No party aspires for any fruit in return from the other party. We should establish such a bond of real love with God. The mother or the wife is not omnipotent and might not be capable of providing all the comforts needed by the person. Both are ignorant and might not even be able to understand the person’s requirements each time. But God is omnipotent and omniscient. Sometimes, when the omnipotent and omniscient God remains silent even when we are facing difficulties, we should realize that there must be some very important valid reason for His silence. In such situations, His silence is undoubtedly in our best interest.
In this real love, which is not based on an account balance sheet, our love should be really real. What I mean is that our love should be real both inside and outside.

A certain devotee tried to develop such real love for God. He served God and sacrificed his wealth to God without aspiring for any fruit in return. Later, when the devotee faced some difficulties, God kept silent. This devotee said to God that he had expected unlimited love from God in reciprocation of his unlimited love for God! This statement made by him shows that his love for God was real only externally. Internally, it was unreal!

We must have real faith in God because He is omniscient. He knows our requirements even without our asking. He is omnipotent to meet any of our requirements, unlike other human souls. We have full faith in the ignorant and powerless humans, who are related to us. But we do not have even a bit of faith in the all-knowing, all-powerful and infinitely kind God. Is it not the height of blind foolishness?

You have said a lot of deep things. I hope religious zealots can open their eyes and mind to reflect on this.

PoliteActivist:
You'd seem to be the one making foolish interpretations. See below, tge

He has caught the madness plague! As people say "many are mad"

OkCornel:


You have said a lot of deep things. I hope religious zealots can open their eyes and mind to reflect on this.

Only the mad would reflect on the mad!

dattaswami1:

Merely accepting the human incarnation (Jesus) as the Saviour cannot save you.

Now you have changed post from second coming to Saving which was not the issue.

Dtruthspeaker:


Now you have changed post from second coming to Saving which was not the issue.

Jesus has to come in every human generation then alone is He impartial God.

dattaswami1:

Jesus has to come in every human generation then alone is He impartial God.

He does not need to come. He already in Us. John 1 and Emmanueled us.

MaxInDHouse:
He returned in the year 1914.

Brainwashed by JW cult.
Did any of the following happen in 1914?

PoliteActivist:


Brainwashed by JW cult.
Did any of the following happen in 1914?

Mad deceived people. I tell you.

Dtruthspeaker:


He does not need to come. He already in Us. John 1 and Emmanueled us.

An Industrialist created a factory in which inanimate items and non-inanimate workers exist. The factory is His property. All the workers need not be good and disciplined. The owner comes to the factory every day to supervise the workers. The owner is visiting His own property. Is there something abnormal in this? If the owner is visiting the factory of somebody else, we may be interested to know the reason. Moreover, some employees desire to see the owner everyday to discuss with him about their doubts face to face. The owner feels that face to face talks are more effective than talking over phone. The presence of the owner inspires them to work more efficiently.

Similarly, this creation is done by God Himself and this creation is His personal property. He has every right to visit and supervise His own property. He is not visiting the creation of somebody else. There is a special satisfaction among ardent devotes to see Him, to talk with Him directly for clearing their doubts, to touch His feet and serve Him and to spend their life time with Him. God also feels happy to satisfy them and feels that His personal visit will inspire them more in their spiritual progress. Hence, God visits this creation frequently in the form of human incarnations. God is called as ‘Pashupati’ (owner of animals like cows, buffaloes, bulls, donkeys etc.) and we must note that the human being is said to be a social animal.