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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by limeta(f): 8:20am On Oct 30, 2022
Most commentators here are muslims
Lets say moderate muslims but the Islamic goal is same.
If is was the other way round will their views be the same ?
Will they accept a Christian/Christian ticket? Not at all .Will they support a northern jihad against their yoruba Christians brothers ? Yes of causes.




Christian vote wisely

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Vulturereloaded: 8:21am On Oct 30, 2022
adekolaelect:
the message is addressed to you and writer who don't know that Yorubas intellectuals is more than Petty religious bigot like you others.

Them never win elections, the church is under attack.

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Vulturereloaded: 8:23am On Oct 30, 2022
Afamed:


Bring another format, this one is dead on arrival

Well tell that to the victims of owo.
Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by adekolaelect(m): 8:30am On Oct 30, 2022
Vulturereloaded:


Them never win elections, the church is under attack.
Oga pack well . Can you tell me what religion brought for Nigerians than Extortion and virtual blessings ? Pls move out of my mention you this religious bigot poeple .

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Nobody: 8:30am On Oct 30, 2022
Vulturereloaded:


How many Christians or non christians have been lynched in the streets of UK?

Do you mindless and senseless Igbos think you're helping by divisively promoting religious intolerance and highlighting our differences?

Nigeria has a large illiterate, poverty-ridden, ill-exposed, hope-deprived and unsophisticated population.

Those sort must be saved from themselves by better educated folks, like you, who should know that de-emphasing religious extremism, or reducing over-religiousity, is the way forward for Nigeria.

Karl Marx, long ago, termed religion the "opium of the people" because he considered religion to be like a mind-altering drug the rich, educated and wealthy used to manipulate the poor and working class to make them comfortable with and even hopeful of their wretched conditions and humanity.

They can then live and die poor never challenging their lowly status and poverty.

Can you disagree that this is the reality of the North? You Igbos then reflect the unthinking reactionary rebellion that makes things worse while Yorubas remain the ones setting examples important for our productive evolution. Try to be an asset to society not a menace.


https://www.britannica.com/video/186414/opposition-religion-Karl-Marx

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Nobody: 8:36am On Oct 30, 2022
Vulturereloaded:


In other words, Christians lack the competence required to move Nigeria forward.

Thats why he doubled the Muslim choice.

Tinubu has an election to win so he can transform Nigeria for the better. As a sophisticated man, he prioritised election-winning strategy over religious 'balancing'.

It is a good and evolutionary precedence needed by an over-religious nation where mere words can lead to the lynching and death of many in minutes.

I don't know why the gods have made the Nigerian educated class, like you, devoid of society-developing sense and capacity.

You are the ones who should be fighting to free the poorly educated and poverty-ridden Nigerians of the over-religiousity foisted on them to make them comfortable with their poverty and lowly status so as to never rebel against it or desire a better life.

This is what is happening in the North and many extremely backward geographical spaces of the world where people have wretched human development index yet live and die comfortable with their reality.

Instead people like you, though educated, only know to add to the problem. I really pity Nigeria because most of us are part of the problem , not the solution, but we cannot see that.

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Afamed: 8:42am On Oct 30, 2022
Obiediots this one is dead on arrival, the divide and rule no work here. You talk of Muslim / Muslim ticket on monday. Tuesday you don join plane to go and lick urine from the same muslim in Kaduna. Obigos no wise

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Vulturereloaded: 8:42am On Oct 30, 2022
adekolaelect:
Oga pack well . Can you tell me what religion brought for Nigerians than Extortion and virtual blessings ? Pls move out of my mention you this religious bigot poeple .

It protects the mosques in yoruba land from Attacks, while churches are attacked.

It ensured that all Muslim dabchi girls are released while the only christian leah sharibu is not.
Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Vulturereloaded: 8:43am On Oct 30, 2022
Afamed:
Obiediots this one is dead on arrival, the divide and rule no work here. You talk of Muslim / Muslim ticket on monday. Tuesday you don join plane to go and lick urine from the same muslim in Kaduna. Obigos no wise

Is gumi on the ticket? Is obi running muslim muslim ticket after 8 years of muslim rule?
Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by basty: 8:44am On Oct 30, 2022
@OP, you are a hypocrite. What is eternity?

What has the body Christ achieved with Osinbajo as a Vice President and a Christian?
Stop the unreasonable topic on Nairaland. What benefits a Christian in this dispensation?
I hissed.

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Vulturereloaded: 8:45am On Oct 30, 2022
candidtalk:


Tinubu has an election to win so can transform Nigeria for the better. As a sophisticated man, he prioritised election-winning strategy over religious 'balancing'.

It is a good and evolutionary precedence needed by an over-religious nation where mere words can lead to the lynching and death of many in minutes.

I don't know why the gods have made the Nigerian educated class, like you, devoid of society-developing sense and capacity.

You are the ones who should be fighting to free the poorly educated and poverty-ridden Nigerians of the over-religiousity foisted on them to make them comfortable with their poverty and lowly status so as to never rebel against it.

This is what is happening in the North and many extremely backward geographical spaces of the world where people have wretched human development index yet live and die comfortable with their reality.

Instead people like you, though educated, only know to add to the problem. I really pity Nigeria because most of us are part of the problem , not the solution, but we cannot see that.

Meaning christians have no electoral value.

Exactly my point. If he wins the elections, then every party will adopt his strategy of Muslim Muslim ticket to win elections.

Then Christains will never win elections in Nigeria. They will tell you that if you field a christian presidential candidate, he wont win.

Thats why that self serving strategy must be resisted.
Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Vulturereloaded: 8:51am On Oct 30, 2022
basty:
@OP, you are a hypocrite. What is eternity?

What has the body Christ achieved with Osinbajo as a Vice President and a Christian?
Stop the unreasonable topic on Nairaland. What benefits a Christian in this dispensation?
I hissed.

Osibanjo has been the most humilated VP in Nigeria, thats because he is a christian.

While Shetima called him ice cream seller, Tinubu a presidential candidate is forgiving the vice president for daring to contest primaries.

If christians were persecuted under a christian VP, imagine what will happen under a muslim muslim candidacy.
Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by JoeNL22(m): 9:04am On Oct 30, 2022
Mfetenang:
Stop wasting your data, Yoruba people are the most sophisticated people in Nigeria and they're very good at politics unlike IPOB people.
Go and sleep on your dirty mat in shame.
Yoruba people are above politics of religion. If religion is the only way you think Peter the Idiot Obi can win the election then forget it.
NO IPOB MAN WILL EVER RULE THIS COUNTRY, MARK MY WORDS AND REMEMBER THIS IN MAY 2023.
Yoruba Christians and youths will never vote Tinubu as president. Stop wasting your time. If you think 75% of yoruba people will vote Tinubu. Then you are wasting your time. We will never vote a Muslim Muslim ticket.
My name is Ifeoluwa osho and I will never support a drug baron to be president. We the youths and Christians of the southwest are OBIDIENT.
Take it or Take it.
Nigeria must be great again.

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Afamed: 9:08am On Oct 30, 2022
Vulturereloaded:


Is gumi on the ticket? Is obi running muslim muslim ticket after 8 years of muslim rule?

You speak with 2 sides of you mouth. Obi should have gone to see CAN cHAIRMAN in Kaduna instead of seeing Gumi. Una level of hypocrisy is second to non

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Vulturereloaded: 9:12am On Oct 30, 2022
Afamed:


You speak with 2 sides of you mouth. Obi should have gone to see CAN cHAIRMAN in Kaduna instead of seeing Gumi. Una level of hypocrisy is second to non

Who he sees has nothing to do with who he is running with.

He can see anybody, but who he chooses to run with him, shows his agenda.

And Running on a Muslim Muslim Ticket, shows that Tinubu assumes, Christians have no electoral value.
Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Okoroawusa: 9:12am On Oct 30, 2022
This one thinks that Yorubas carry religion for head like Igbos and Hausas.

You need to go to every Yoruba family and see things for yourself first. You are wasting your time with this warped line of thought

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Okoroawusa: 9:13am On Oct 30, 2022
Vulturereloaded:


Who he sees has nothing to do with who he is running with.

He can see anybody, but who he chooses to run with him, shows his agenda.

And Running on a Muslim Muslim Ticket, shows that Tinubu assumes, Christians have no electoral value.
Oga abeg shift go one side

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Vulturereloaded: 9:15am On Oct 30, 2022
candidtalk:


Do you mindless and senseless Igbos think you're helping by divisively promoting religious intolerance and highlighting our differences?

Nigeria has a large illiterate, poverty-ridden, ill-exposed, hope-deprived and unsophisticated population.

Those sort must be saved from themselves by better educated folks, like you, who should know that de-emphasing religious extremism, or reducing over-religiousity, is the way forward for Nigeria.

Karl Marx, long ago, termed religion the "opium of the people" because he considered religion to be like a mind-altering drug the rich, educated and wealthy used to manipulate the poor and working class to make them comfortable with and even hopeful of their wretched conditions and humanity. grin

They can then live and die poor never challenging their lowly status and poverty.

Can you disagree that this is the reality of the North? You Igbos then reflect the unthinking reactionary rebellion that makes things worse while Yorubas remain the ones setting examples important for our productive evolution. Try to be an asset to society not a menace.


https://www.britannica.com/video/186414/opposition-religion-Karl-Marx

Exactly. Tinubu is rich, sold drugs and is using muslim muslim ticket to woo the North to vote for him.
Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Vulturereloaded: 9:16am On Oct 30, 2022
Okoroawusa:
This one thinks that Yorubas carry religion for head like Igbos and Hausas.

You need to go to every Yoruba family and see things for yourself first. You are wasting your time with this warped line of thought

Lets see how they handle sharia in Yoruba land.
Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Nobody: 9:26am On Oct 30, 2022
Vulturereloaded:


Meaning christians have no electoral value.

Exactly my point. If he wins the elections, then every party will adopt his strategy of Muslim Muslim ticket to win elections.

Then Christains will never win elections in Nigeria. They will tell you that if you field a christian presidential candidate, he wont win.

Thats why that self serving strategy must be resisted.

You continue to be senselessly obtuse. If Tinubu wins, the message is that candidates should sell their meritorious capacity rather than religious background.

This is why Yoruba leaders are demanding regional governance so we can escape the backwardness of other regions even those in the educated class, like you, continue to promote rather than seek to ameliorate.

Yorubas today view Nigeria as hopeless because of an educated class that behave as you, and many in the North, do.

Worldwide, the educated, especially in the youth class, continue to embrace progressive change and productive evolution for societal development.

Not so in Nigeria where educated but unthinking folks like you add to the problem.

You want all of us wallowing in backwardness like the illiterate, poverty-ridden and most unproductive in society we should all be seeking to elevate and rid of their ignorance, over-religiousity and lack of life-changing skills and education.

The biggest and most transformational change for Nigeria , while we remain one nation, will come from us all tackling Northern leaders and the way they deliberately use over-religiousity to keep their own people comfortable with their poor, wretched, illiterate and hopeless existence.

The North is the only region where a person can still be lynched and burnt today for 'religious blasphemy'. This is horrible because it should be obvious no God can order the death of a human being for words they utter while killers, paedophiles, rapists and cannibals get 10 years prision sentences.

If the North can develop like a moderate Islamic nation, like Turkey, then Nigeria would be wonderful. We should all fight, for our own good, to help ordinary Northerners recognise what they have to do.

If this is impossible, because of a a callous and unrepentant Northern elite/educated class and instigatory Southerners like you then we must all agitate for regional governance so we can lead ourselves.

Yorubas are tired of sharing space with people who should know what is developmentally best for Nigeria yet continue to support the opposite. We do not deserve backwardness because of others disinterested in doing the right thing and resistive of embracing developmental changes.

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Vulturereloaded: 9:29am On Oct 30, 2022
candidtalk:


You continue to be senselessly obtuse. If Tinubu wins, the message is that candidates should sell their meritorious capacity rather than religious background.

This is why Yoruba leaders are demanding regional governance so we can escape the backwardness of other regions even those in the educated class, like you, continue to promote rather than seek to ameliorate.

Yorubas today view Nigeria as hopeless because of an educated class that behave as you, and many in the North, do.

Worldwide, the educated, especially in the youth class, continue to embrace progressive change and productive evolution for societal development.

Not so in Nigeria where educated but unthinking folks like you add to the problem.

You want all of us wallowing in backwardness like the illiterate, poverty-ridden and most unproductive in society we should all be seeking to elevate and rid of their ignorance, over-religiousity and lack of life-changing skills and education.

The biggest and most transformational change for Nigeria , while we remain one nation, will come from us all tackling Northern leaders and the way they deliberately use over-religiousity to keep their own people comfortable with their poor, wretched, illiterate and hopeless existence.

The North is the only region where a person can still be lynched and burnt today for 'religious blasphemy'. This is horrible because it should be obvious no God can order the death of a human being for words they utter while killers, paedophiles, rapists and cannibals get 10 years prision sentences.

If the North can develop like a moderate Islamic nation, like Turkey, then Nigeria would be wonderful. We should all fight, for our own good, to help ordinary Northerners recognise what they have to do.

If this is impossible, because of a a callous and unrepentant Northern elite/educated class and instigatory Southerners like you then we must all agitate for regional governance so we can lead ourselves.

Yorubas are tired of sharing space with people who should know what is developmentally best for Nigeria yet continue to support the opposite. We do not deserve backwardness because of others disinterested in doing the right thing and resistive of embracing developmental changes.



If we go by merit why should APC win at $1 =N800?

So no Christian in Nigeria merits both presidency and VP in APC after a muslim completed 8 years?

So when will Christians start to merit ?

Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Okoroawusa: 9:30am On Oct 30, 2022
Mynd44 please close this thread
Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Rapht933: 9:35am On Oct 30, 2022
YES. what is eternity?
Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by AlafinofEnugu(m): 9:39am On Oct 30, 2022
Vulturereloaded:
They said there is no competent Christian to be on the APC presidential ticket.
Would u accept babachair abi wetin be his name as ur vice president cheesy
Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Nobody: 9:42am On Oct 30, 2022
Vulturereloaded:


If we go by merit why should APC win at $1 =N800?

My friend, continue the mischief. You are self-destructive and predisposed to cutting your nose to spite your face.

Buhari is not APC. He did not run an inclusive APC Government strictly adherent to the core ideology of the Party.

Buhari ostracised revolutionary and innovative thinkers in the Party to convene an influential inner crew of feudal, Conservative and illiberal Northerners like Malami, Daura, Pantami, Abba Kyari etal.

They are the one's who created the problem Nigeria is experiencing today. Nothing to do with Tinubu.

No bigger proof of this than how Lagos continues to move forward exemplarily, as best State in Nigeria by far, while a lot of Nigerian States regress and stagnate.

Latest figures show that Lagos IGR is now three times her federal allocation whereas many Northern States are failing under Northern administrators.

It should be obvious Nigerian politics is today about individuals and not the Party. Quit the mischief and support Asiwaju for the sake of your unborn children.

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Vulturereloaded: 10:03am On Oct 30, 2022
candidtalk:


My friend, continue the mischief. You are self-destructive and predisposed to cutting your nose to spite your face.

Buhari is not APC. He did not run an inclusive APC Government strictly adherent to the core ideology of the Party.

Buhari ostracised revolutionary and innovative thinkers in the Party to convene an influential inner crew of feudal, Conservative and illiberal Northerners like Malami, Daura, Pantami, Abba Kyari etal.

They are the one's who created the problem Nigeria is experiencing today. Nothing to do with Tinubu.

No bigger proof of this than how Lagos continues to move forward exemplarily, as best State in Nigeria by far, while a lot of Nigerian States regress and stagnate.

Latest figures show that Lagos IGR is now three times her federal allocation whereas many Northern States are failing under Northern administrators.

It should be obvious Nigerian politics is today about individuals and not the Party. Quit the mischief and support Asiwaju for the sake of your unborn children.

And Tinubu supported him twice at the expense of the welfare of Nigerians?

You are either part of the solution or you are part of the problem. Tinubu's support shows he is part of the problem.
Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by OsunOriginal: 10:07am On Oct 30, 2022
Mfetenang:
Stop wasting your data, Yoruba people are the most sophisticated people in Nigeria and they're very good at politics unlike IPOB people.
Go and sleep on your dirty mat in shame.
Yoruba people are above politics of religion. If religion is the only way you think Peter the Idiot Obi can win the election then forget it.
NO IPOB MAN WILL EVER RULE THIS COUNTRY, MARK MY WORDS AND REMEMBER THIS IN MAY 2023.

Oponu... They will vote based on religion because it is religion that will give them roads, rail, light, etc.

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Aldol: 10:19am On Oct 30, 2022
NwaMamaIwota:
Yoruba Christians should wake up or risk being minority in the next 60 years.
they told you religion doesn't matter in southwest but they're making and stamping religious moves all over yoruba land.
they're solidifying their moves.
they told you that Muslim/Muslim ticket doesn't matter but can a Yoruba Muslim accept it if vice versa?
a day will come when they'll conquer all southwest state and convert Obas to Emir and tell you that it doesn't matter.
who would have thought that the same people that told you that religion doesn't matter in South West will drag hijab crises upto supreme Court.
now even mission owned school will have hijabs littering around its environment.
but trust me if it's other way round even non Muslim will be compelled to wear hijab.
what's their next move especially if they succeed with Muslim/Muslim ticket?
maybe implementing Sharia law in Yoruba land and enforcing it to the core.
it's time Yoruba Christians wake up.
you and these guys are not one as you think.
they made you to hate igbos because igbos are the only people seeing through their deceits.

wake up real Omoluabis and fight for your land from invaders
real Yorubas lagbaa
Lol you are here again, as usual you will continue to fail. You think you can use religion to bring division to Yorubaland just like you did in your place. Your joy is to always see the downfall of Yoruba, what a people
My sibling who is a Muslim is with me now and I just showed him your comment, if I tell you what he said to you ehn, you may commit suicide.
Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by seunmsg(m): 10:28am On Oct 30, 2022
Vulturereloaded:
Will Yoruba Christians allow themselves to be used as a tool to eliminate Yorubas from National politics?

If Tinubu's South/North Ticket is not allowed to Succeed, then a Yoruba irrespective of religion will never rule Nigeria again.

Every party will no longer present a presdential candidate of Yoruba ethnicity saying if you field a Yoruba irrespective of religion, he won't win.

Will the Yoruba Christians choose pragmatism, brotherhood and self preservation over cheap religious sentiment and blackmail?

Fixed!

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by trantayo: 10:33am On Oct 30, 2022
Peter Obi urchins are just different hatred strategy in Yoruba land. Unfortunately, they kept on lule with their evil strategies

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Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by Vulturereloaded: 10:35am On Oct 30, 2022
seunmsg:


Fixed!

Lol. Until you can show the Yoruba Christians where a Mosque was attacked in yoruba land under APC, or Where an IMAM was attacked for preaching in Yoruba land, you have fixed nothing.

Re: Will Yoruba Christians Choose Ethnicity Over Eternity? by seunmsg(m): 10:41am On Oct 30, 2022
Vulturereloaded:


Lol. Until you can show the Yoruba Christians year a Mosque was attacked in yoruba land under APC, or Wear an IMAM was attacked for preaching in Yoruba land, you have fixed nothing.

Yorubas irrespective of religion voted for Awolowo, Abiola, Olu Falae (1999), Obasanjo (2003) and Osinbajo (2015 &2019).

If you check the list very well, you will observe that Abiola is the only Muslim there. We don’t care about religion in the south west. We vote for whoever we feel is better and that’s it. In 2023, we will vote for Bola Ahmed Tinubu as President because he’s the only one among the major contenders that has a track record of verifiable achievements.

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