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Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by mrkings84(m): 1:05am On Nov 17, 2022
Mynd44:
1. Tinubu was governor of Lagos. His party governs Lagos and the next industrialized state, Ogun.

The influence of these two states is enough for the private sector to listen to him. Lagos has almost 85% of the headquarters of major corporations and all the HQ of banks in the country.

Lagos hosts the important ports which these sector needs and has also demonstrated making them better by starting need ports in Lekki and Badagry.

Lagos is the largest by population hence their work force and also the largest market for their goods.

2. Atiku is one of the most important people in Nigeria's organised private sector as he is on the top 5 biggest employers of Labor. He is one of them and understands their pains. He is also one of them since he also produces and he knows where the pinch is. When FOREX is a problem, he feels it and knows the pain. He knows the pain of finding the right staff, the pain of getting the raw materials, the same pains other people in the private sector go through

3. Obi is not a producer, he is an importer. He is a risk to local producers as his policies on importing will run them out of business and out of money. He just said he will lift restrictions on importation. Imagine being Kenneth Imasuagbon and after you invest billions in your rice production business, a presidential candidate says he will lift restrictions on rice importation which means your rice will be the most expensive and your investment will probably just die. How do you get behind such a candidate?




Wow o, so Tinubu now have a Frontline attacker of other candidates as a mod in nairaland.

Nairaland is a joke.
Imagine a TV presenter of NTA or AIT playing pro-party politics

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Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Abdu81: 3:25am On Nov 17, 2022
Mynd44:

The topic here is Organised Private Sector not market women.

Do you have a short attention span or ADHD?



Just reminding you your nairaland politics and it's limits,mod.

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Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Penguin2: 4:39am On Nov 17, 2022
Corto:


They will hedge their bets and support all three sides, because 2023 is up there in the air. Tinubu would've had a clear shot had his biggest supposed ally not been a dyed-in-the-wool tribal bigot.

At the end of the day, blood debt between every Fula and his fellow kin, will trump any type of party affiliation, and that's what Afenifere were trying to explain to him a few years ago when he insisted on selling his own tribesmen as slaves to the Fula.

Everyone must reap whatever they sow in this life

I tell people that if I doubt every other thing in life, one thing I don’t, and will never, doubt is that “what goes around comes around”.

You see, Karma is real. And like you said, everyone of us must reap what they sowed in this life.

For his ambition, Tinubu sold his people; and gave up the chance of the south to remain in power but today he’s running on the toga that it is the turn of the south. At what point did Tinubu started protecting the interest of the south?

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Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Penguin2: 4:43am On Nov 17, 2022
ogododo:


Atiku wey get Intels, you kids sah. Obi wey be just importer and distributor.

It’s a pity you don’t know that Atiku sold his stake at INTELs. Some people even claim he sold it to Tinubu.

Who is the kid now?
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by StrongAlphMale: 5:30am On Nov 17, 2022
Mynd44:
1. Tinubu was governor of Lagos. His party governs Lagos and the next industrialized state, Ogun.

The influence of these two states is enough for the private sector to listen to him. Lagos has almost 85% of the headquarters of major corporations and all the HQ of banks in the country.

Lagos hosts the important ports which these sector needs and has also demonstrated making them better by starting need ports in Lekki and Badagry.

Lagos is the largest by population hence their work force and also the largest market for their goods.

2. Atiku is one of the most important people in Nigeria's organised private sector as he is on the top 5 biggest employers of Labor. He is one of them and understands their pains. He is also one of them since he also produces and he knows where the pinch is. When FOREX is a problem, he feels it and knows the pain. He knows the pain of finding the right staff, the pain of getting the raw materials, the same pains other people in the private sector go through

3. Obi is not a producer, he is an importer. He is a risk to local producers as his policies on importing will run them out of business and out of money. He just said he will lift restrictions on importation. Imagine being Kenneth Imasuagbon and after you invest billions in your rice production business, a presidential candidate says he will lift restrictions on rice importation which means your rice will be the most expensive and your investment will probably just die. How do you get behind such a candidate?



Since the APC government closed boarder, how is Nigeria economy? How much is a bag of rice in your area? So you want the boarder to remain closed, so people can die of starvation and Hunger?

I'm very sure you're still a small boy and your parents are still feeding you, hence the reason for your myopic thinking. When GEJ was in power, how much was a bag of rice as compared to now? Was the boarders closed during GEJ administration? If there are movement of goods and services between one nation and the other how would the economy grow?

You're really still a small boy and knows nothing in life

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Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Jagogin: 5:54am On Nov 17, 2022
PrinceOfLagos:
No responsible company or private sector will want to partner or associate with someone whose name is soiled in drug dealings

Drug dealing is a very serious crime that attracts death penalty in some countries of the world and Tinubu has been accused by the United States of heroine dealings and money laundering. No private sector would want to deal with man of too many questionable characters ..
I will surpot Obi

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Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Originalsly: 6:11am On Nov 17, 2022
The OPS will vote for the candidate who will offer them the most to influence the workers to vote for him.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by PrinceOfLagos: 6:20am On Nov 17, 2022
MelesZanawi:


Has Mobil denied it?
If they don't deny, you can go deny it on their behalf.
Did Deloitte that Tinubu shamelessly claimed he worked for didn't come out to deny ever knowing or having anyone with the name Bola Tinubu in there past and present workforce??

I understand you're a staunch supporter of PDP and so angry that Mr Peter Obi has taken large chunk of Atiku and Tinubu supporters in the south but we no send you . We at Labour Party will continue to break more boundaries and win more followers for his Excellency and the next President of Nigeria, Mr Peter Gregory Obi . We are unbreakable

Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by kelly72: 6:25am On Nov 17, 2022
[quote author=Mynd44 post=118448442]1. Tinubu was governor of Lagos. His party governs Lagos and the next industrialized state, Ogun.

The influence of these two states is enough for the private sector to listen to him. Lagos has almost 85% of the headquarters of major corporations and all the HQ of banks in the country.

Lagos hosts the important ports which these sector needs and has also demonstrated making them better by starting need ports in Lekki and Badagry.

Lagos is the largest by population hence their work force and also the largest market for their goods.

2. Atiku is one of the most important people in Nigeria's organised private sector as he is on the top 5 biggest employers of Labor. He is one of them and understands their pains. He is also one of them since he also produces and he knows where the pinch is. When FOREX is a problem, he feels it and knows the pain. He knows the pain of finding the right staff, the pain of getting the raw materials, the same pains other people in the private sector go through

3. Obi is not a producer, he is an importer. He is a risk to local producers as his policies on importing will run them out of business and out of money. He just said he will lift restrictions on importation. Imagine being Kenneth Imasuagbon and after you invest billions in your rice production business, a presidential candidate says he will lift restrictions on rice importation which means your rice will be the most expensive and your investment will probably just die. How do you get behind such a candidate?

Tinubu is neither producer nor importer, eventhough he wears and eats what Obi imoprts. He has big muscles with which he lifts public funds from the treasury into waiting bullion vans which proceeds to his house to unload for the purposes of vote-buying, bribing of INEC officials and judicial officers, and mobilization of street urchins to unleash violence at unfavourable polling units on election day.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by MelesZanawi: 6:33am On Nov 17, 2022
PrinceOfLagos:

Did Deloitte that Tinubu shamelessly claimed he worked for didn't come out to deny ever knowing or having anyone with the name Bola Tinubu in there past and present workforce??

I understand you're a staunch supporter of PDP and so angry that Mr Peter Obi has taken large chunk of Atiku and Tinubu supporters in the south but we no send you . We at Labour Party will continue to break more boundaries and win more followers for his Excellency and the next President of Nigeria, Mr Peter Gregory Obi . We are unbreakable

Guy, no dey quote me. You have bad luck following you and I don't want to have anything to do with you.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Emir01: 6:53am On Nov 17, 2022
toneroforever:


Quit fantasizing bro. The lineup of the political gladiators in Jos yesterday (Buhari inclusive) for the APC presidential campaign flag off should have suggested that the election next year will be a walkover for Tinubu. However, the events that unfolded & the dynamics of the 2023 elections suggest otherwise.
First, a section of the rented crowd stone them showing the obvious rejection of Tinubu despite the fact that they were paid.
The governor of Plateau state is the chairman of the campaign council yet many Jos residents didn't show up because they are OBIdient. Now compare the attendance of yesterday's campaign with that of Obi's visit to the same venue. Remember APC had to bring in the people who participated yesterday from different parts of the north.

Tinubu's urchins think 2023 will be like previous elections,no..... Now that's the biggest mistake they keep making.
2023 is a class war between the elite and the masses. No amount of captains of industry or heavyweight politicians can save u if the masses are not on ur side.

Use of BVAS & naira redesign have also disrupted APC's & PDP's rigging plans & made their so called structures worthless.

Add that to Buhari's attitude towards elections which shows that he is indifferent to whoever emerges victorious. Tinubu is clearly on his own. The too many controversies he is embroiled in has further depleted whatever is left of his base.

The so called Northerner block votes h.e was hoping to inherit from Buhari is already up in flames. Other northern candidates have eaten deep into those votes while Obi is poaching his SW votes & enjoys support from the Omoluabis & Afenifere.

I guess by now u should have an idea of who will carry the day.

Vote wisely.

Labour party is not in the race in the first place and their poor propaganda by pushing out fake news will make them loose terribly and come distance third or fourth. I watched the rally from beginning to the end and it was a successful and colourful one even people outside the stadium was massive. If money can buy those people at d rally then be sure that money will buy their votes as well. Am voting wisely already. Stone my foot. Don't let the team intimidate you, it's a done deal and one house coasting to victory, it will be cleared soon.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by ogododo: 7:01am On Nov 17, 2022
Penguin2:


It’s a pity you don’t know that Atiku sold his stake at INTELs. Some people even claim he sold it to Tinubu.

Who is the kid now?

Lol. U Don go Jemeta and Yola see his business. He still get stake for Intels. Obi na only trader, selling imported goods only.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by ogododo: 7:02am On Nov 17, 2022
masseratti:
oga stop this argument, in 1982 a foreigner must have a partner that is a Nigerian to own any company in Nigeria, the law or decree still exist today as we speak, it was the nationalization decree under Obj in the 70s it was relaxed to have have private sector involved but with a Nigerian on the board, Atiku was co founder but not the owner, ask yourself how can he sell shares worth $83m to the parent company of INTELS and the company was making a turnover over over $200m in a year tugging vessels, handling logistics for FG, NNPC at one if he is the majority shareholder.. Does that make sense?

Go read for school.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by SmartyPants(m): 7:24am On Nov 17, 2022
Megabig:
Im tired of y’all and your search for who represents you, your options are very clear, anyone can do the opposite after getting elected but your pick should be on “who do you trust”…..

You have 2 obvious thieves that you should never be considering

That should be Tinubu and Peter Obi?
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Penguin2: 8:27am On Nov 17, 2022
ogododo:


Lol. U Don go Jemeta and Yola see his business. He still get stake for Intels. Obi na only trader, selling imported goods only.

Stop arguing blindly.

Atiku sold his stake in INTELs
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by ogododo: 8:35am On Nov 17, 2022
Penguin2:


Stop arguing blindly.

Atiku sold his stake in INTELs
To Obi.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by masseratti: 8:37am On Nov 17, 2022
ogododo:


Go read for school.
is the sentence you just wrote comprehensive to you?
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Penguin2: 8:58am On Nov 17, 2022
Mynd44:
1. Tinubu was governor of Lagos. His party governs Lagos and the next industrialized state, Ogun.

The influence of these two states is enough for the private sector to listen to him. Lagos has almost 85% of the headquarters of major corporations and all the HQ of banks in the country.

Lagos hosts the important ports which these sector needs and has also demonstrated making them better by starting need ports in Lekki and Badagry.

Lagos is the largest by population hence their work force and also the largest market for their goods.

2. Atiku is one of the most important people in Nigeria's organised private sector as he is on the top 5 biggest employers of Labor. He is one of them and understands their pains. He is also one of them since he also produces and he knows where the pinch is. When FOREX is a problem, he feels it and knows the pain. He knows the pain of finding the right staff, the pain of getting the raw materials, the same pains other people in the private sector go through

3. Obi is not a producer, he is an importer. He is a risk to local producers as his policies on importing will run them out of business and out of money. He just said he will lift restrictions on importation. Imagine being Kenneth Imasuagbon and after you invest billions in your rice production business, a presidential candidate says he will lift restrictions on rice importation which means your rice will be the most expensive and your investment will probably just die. How do you get behind such a candidate?




No one is doubting the fact that Lagos holds the HQ of most these Multinationals and big businesses; and most recently, Ogun has been benefiting from the population overshoot from, and its proximity to, Lagos.

It is the reason they all attended Tinubu’s event when invited them. Because no business man would want flex muscles with someone who can withdraw your Certificate of Occupancy and run your business down no matter how big you think you are.

So, my point is, that Lagos holds these things does not mean the CEOs of these businesses are happy with the leadership of Lagos nor the leadership of the country. They know that better and more business friendly policies would have enabled them to maximize profit, which is why every business exists.

So, I need you to separate playing along from support. And I know you have the intellectual capacity to understand what I mean.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Penguin2: 9:00am On Nov 17, 2022
ogododo:

To Obi.

Do you argue for argument sake or to get clarifications and update your knowledge?

I’m not the only one who has mentioned the fact that Atiku sold his stake in INTELs and you are here still arguing.

What are you arguing?
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Mynd44: 9:04am On Nov 17, 2022
Penguin2:


No one is doubting the fact that Lagos holds the HQ of most these Multinationals and big businesses; and most recently, Ogun has been benefiting from the population overshoot from, and its proximity to, Lagos.

It is the reason they all attended Tinubu’s event when invited them. Because no business man would want flex muscles with someone who can withdraw your Certificate of Occupancy and run your business down no matter how big you think you are.

So, my point is, that Lagos holds these things does not mean the CEOs of these businesses are happy with the leadership of Lagos nor the leadership of the country. They know that better and more business friendly policies would have enabled them to maximize profit, which is why every business exists.

So, I need you to separate playing along from support. And I know you have the intellectual capacity to understand what I mean.
Dangote refinery was supposed to be in Ondo or Ogun state, Lagos was the last choice but they moved because the offer was good.

Same with the companies in the Lekki Free Trade Zone.

Or ask Oriental Hotel how they got the land they are using right now.

Tinubu and Atiku are friends of the Organised Business Sector. Theu dine with then and the OPS know what they stand to gain from these two individuals.

As for Obi which you skewed this thread to support, it is the opposite. He is not one of them, not representative of them, his official policies even hurt them.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Allisgud: 9:11am On Nov 17, 2022
Nobody will vote in anybody who only know how to infringe pain on the masses by fustrating them with unnecessary taxation,that will still be looted by his company
Peter obi is my president

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Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by ogododo: 9:45am On Nov 17, 2022
Penguin2:


Do you argue for argument sake or to get clarifications and update your knowledge?

I’m not the only one who has mentioned the fact that Atiku sold his stake in INTELs and you are here still arguing.

What are you arguing?

Your write up is fallacies. Una think sey because I dey write anyhow, I be mofo. Atiku is best Private Investor. Stick with your man that don't know what he is doing. No manifesto, but being pushed to fulfil some agitations.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Penguin2: 9:49am On Nov 17, 2022
Mynd44:

Dangote refinery was supposed to be in Ondo or Ogun state, Lagos was the last choice but they moved because the offer was good.

Same with the companies in the Lekki Free Trade Zone.

Or ask Oriental Hotel how they got the land they are using right now.

Tinubu and Atiku are friends of the Organised Business Sector. Theu dine with then and the OPS know what they stand to gain from these two individuals.

As for Obi which you skewed this thread to support, it is the opposite. He is not one of them, not representative of them, his official policies even hurt them.

Lol!

Did you just say that a former chairman of one of Nigeria’s leading Commercial Banks is not a member of the OPS?

Are you aware that apart from being the former chairman of Fidelity Bank, that Obi also sat on the board of Directors of another Bank?

What is the OPS without the bank CEOs
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by chrisbizplanner: 10:25am On Nov 17, 2022
post=118449415:
JAGABAN all da way......

A vote for Pandora or his Oga Atifku is a vote for JAGABAN.

A vote for JAGABAN is a vote JAGABAN.

God bless Our incoming Presido JAGABAN Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

God bless all sane, honest and hardworking Nigerians.

God bless Nigeria.

Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Franchise21(m): 3:50pm On Nov 17, 2022
Barrylord4040:
Obi was a drug dealer.
You're high on cheap drugs
Re: 2023 Presidency: Who Do You Think The Organized Private Sector Will Support? by Alexis0147(m): 1:25am On Nov 18, 2022
Penguin2:
The Organized Private Sector (OPS) made up of the Nigerian Chambers of Commerce, Industry, Mines and Agriculture (NACCIMA), Manufacturers Association of Nigeria (MAN), and other similar bodies, are one of the strongest cabals in Nigeria that are rarely spoken of.

This body holds all the banks, Insurance companies, Telecom companies, etc, with millions of employees under their influence.

Sometimes ago, I heard it said somewhere that if the Organized Private Sector do not want you to win an election, you are going nowhere. While this is debatable, it is not far from the truth.

Having established the sphere of influence of the OPS, let’s now go into the crux of this piece - who do you think the OPS will support for the presidency in the 2023 presidential election?

Is it Tinubu?

Tinubu was governor of Lagos for 8 years; everyone knows about that. And I think his only relationship with the OPS came from when he was governor since Lagos is the economic nerve centre of the country. But that was it. Before and after his governorship, Tinubu is not known to have owned any business that made him a member of any of these bodies which would make him understand the needs of these bodies. If anything, the administration of Tinubu introduced a lot of taxes which suffocates businesses; no matter how we want to argue about how imperative the introduction of those taxes are.

Is it Atiku?

Like Tinubu, Atiku has no much affiliation with the OPS except for his time as Vice President of Nigeria and his ownership of Intels, a company that handles shipping of oil or so, which he has now divested from. Atiku also owns the American University in Adamawa but I don’t know if proprietors of schools are part of the OPS (people who know better should inform us).

Is it Peter Obi?

Of the 3 frontline candidates, Peter Obi is the only one who has been, and might still be, a member of the OPS. Having been Chairman of Fidelity Bank and sat on the board of directors of another bank, Obi is clearly sunken into the OPS. Again, being a major importer in Nigeria, something his traducers seldom use against him, Peter Obi is also a member of importers and exporters association of Nigeria (if there’s any such body). But what his being an importer means is that he understands the pains importers pass through to source forex and to clear their goods when they eventually land; not talking about high excise duties that these importers pay just to clear their goods.

So, from the foregoing, it’s quite obvious that Peter Obi is not only a friend of the OPS, he’s part of the OPS, if not part of the board of directors.

But this is Nigeria. That Peter Obi is part of the OPS is not a guarantee that the body would support him. So many other factors might make the body choose to support another presidential candidate like Tinubu or Atiku. Worthy to mention that it is also not likely that they will all swing to one person as interest and motivation might bring about divergence of opinion and choices amongst them.

But who do you think they will support?

Penguin is a bird of reason.

Nope... � Is a myopic thinker.

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