fredoooooo:
Why can't the west just leave Africa alone ...

Sagefromtheeast:

They're too slow abeg

Osariemen12:



Yet, none of the Francophone countries in west Africa has as many poor people as northern Nigeria alone. When combined with southern Nigeria, the number of poor people in Nigeria is more than the number of all the poor people living in Francophone Afriqué combined.

Again, none of the countries you mentioned lives in darkness like Nigeria. And you believe the British and the Americans have not been exploiting you. Please tell me where Abacha loots are hidden and why we are talking about Ogoni clean-up exercise.

The truth is this, with the exception of the war-torn chad, a citizen of the worst Francophone country in west Africa living in his country lives a better life than a Nigerian living in Nigeria. Check the life expectancy of all the African countries before you say otherwise.

owobokiri:
Looks like the sons of Sankara are finally ready to put an end to french racist foreign policies in french West Africa..

France is the reason why West Africa is the poorest region in the world, inspte of having somemof the biggest mineral resources.

Mali, Burkina Faso and even Ivory coast are all slowly pushing back on these European slave merchants and their wicked neocolonial antics.

kingthreat:
France thinks that after supporting the ovethrow and death of Sankara, there would never be consequences. Well the consequences are right in your face right now. The way Burkina Faso is, they may soon take French off as the National language.

owobokiri:


They won't leave unless we push them. We pushed for almost half a century before they left during the period of "political colonialism". But "economic colonialism " is much profitable and enduring. The French won't leave without a fight. They killed Thomas Sankara right there in Burkina Faso and got away with it, because they have mastered the act of fighting African wars with proxies..

Unfortunately, most Africans don't understand what is going on. We all find it convinient to blame our local leaders, but most of them are so encircled by Western superior military intelligence that they know too well of the bloody consequences of towing the lines of independent thinking.. Who killed the former president of Chad few weeks after he angrily started decimating Boko Haram from The Chadian end?

Do you think that his son who is now the president of such a poor country, will risk going like his father?

owobokiri:


They won't leave unless we push them. We pushed for almost half a century before they left during the period of "political colonialism". But "economic colonialism " is much profitable and enduring. The French won't leave without a fight. They killed Thomas Sankara right there in Burkina Faso and got away with it, because they have mastered the act of fighting African wars with proxies..

Unfortunately, most Africans don't understand what is going on. We all find it convenient to blame our local leaders, but most of them are so encircled by Western superior military intelligence that they know too well of the bloody consequences of towing the lines of independent thinking.. Who killed the former president of Chad few weeks after he angrily started decimating Boko Haram from The Chadian end?

Do you think that his son who is now the president of such a poor country, will risk going like his father?

blueAgent:


I can stop laughing at your ignorance.

Mind you , I eat and live from oil and gas industry in Nigeria, you can tell your cock and bull story to ingnorant folks like you not me.

blueAgent:


I dey shame 4 you.

Were do I start to educate this dumb dude.

Incoherent and illogical crap you wrote here.

Try Google GDP of France and Franco phone countries , before we proceed.

GerogeI:


You can't even understand the simple concept of economic sabotage by monetary deflation. Keep quoting google.

GerogeI:



And I eat and live from thin air, but live in an oil rich country that is poorer than Church mouse.

Kaysalas:

I get your drift and I am not actually in support of the bogus figure. But my point is.. it could even be more or less, we can never know until actual values are determined. But don't think it's impossible for France to exploit Africans to that extent

blueAgent:

The evidence so far shows little or no exploitation.

Take Niger or Togo for example, what is their largest exports, what is their biggest industry, what are the revenues, who controls the mineral exploitation?

Who is their largest trade partners?

When you try and answer this questions the picture becomes clearer.

owobokiri:


France is making over 500 billion dollars from her former french colonies in Africa every year..
It has gotten so bad that even certain European leaders have asked France to stop the heist , but Paris won't listen. Infact, it's believed that without the looting of her former colonies, the french economy will tank..



Read more here:

https://worldbulletin.dunyabulteni.net/m/africa/french-colonial-tax-still-enforce-for-africa-h152967.html

Kaysalas:

The bolded is a very big lie. I stayed in port Novo sometimes in year 2020 to learn french. Apart from the electricity and somewhat good roads, France has eaten their PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE already. Go figure

Osariemen12:


At least you acknowledged two good aspect of them. What of water? Didn't you use public water in the comfort of your apartment? Anyway, your argument would be appreciated more of you if you do the bidding of the last sentence of the text you quoted. Mind you, Nigeria is the biggest British asset in west Africa. Same can't be said of Benin when Senegal and Cote d'Ivoire still exist. Again, however you look at it, Francophone west Africans live better than their Anglophone counterparts. That's the goal of civilization.


Happy new year.

Kaysalas:

I can't fault your statistics but my experience there is way below life in Nigeria. Peace

grandstar:


I always laugh whenever I hear of the $500bn figure. It is just preposterous! That is more than the combined GDP of all its francophone countries in Africa.

Does France benefit from its African ex-colonies? Definitely. But to what tune should be questioned asked.

I don't think it is up to $50bn. I even doubt it is more than $20bn. The 3 countries that give its companies the most revenues are Gabon, Cameroon, Condo Brazzaville because they are all oil producing countries and french oil companies are operating there.

If truth be told, France probably spends more on maintaining economically these countries than it gains from it.

The West African CFA for instance has held on to its exchange rate of One Euro - 599 basically since 1994 whench it was then tied to the French Franc.

The Naira which was $1-N80 around that time is now N730. The Ghanian Cedi which was made $1- 1 cedi is now $1-14 Cedi. It cost lots of billions of dollars or Euro to keep a peg.

The French military has troops on ground. The US was spending an average of $1m a year per US soldier in Afghanistan or Iraq. So, if the US had 100,000 troops on ground, you can roughly calculate it was spending $100bn a year when you do the maths.

Lets assume the French half of that figure, if it has 10,000 troops on ground, that about $5bn yearly.

The primary reason why France holds on to these ex-colonies is to project power or influence in the global community. It also helps their companies as well but the benefit isn't worth the trouble. The British on the other hand cut ties to their ex colonies far deeper than the French which was the right thing to do.

grandstar:


I always laugh whenever I hear of the $500bn figure. It is just preposterous! That is more than the combined GDP of all its francophone countries in Africa.

Does France benefit from its African ex-colonies? Definitely. But to what tune should be questioned asked.

I don't think it is up to $50bn. I even doubt it is more than $20bn. The 3 countries that give its companies the most revenues are Gabon, Cameroon, Condo Brazzaville because they are all oil producing countries and french oil companies are operating there.

If truth be told, France probably spends more on maintaining economically these countries than it gains from it.

The West African CFA for instance has held on to its exchange rate of One Euro - 599 basically since 1994 whench it was then tied to the French Franc.

The Naira which was $1-N80 around that time is now N730. The Ghanian Cedi which was made $1- 1 cedi is now $1-14 Cedi. It cost lots of billions of dollars or Euro to keep a peg.

The French military has troops on ground. The US was spending an average of $1m a year per US soldier in Afghanistan or Iraq. So, if the US had 100,000 troops on ground, you can roughly calculate it was spending $100bn a year when you do the maths.

Lets assume the French half of that figure, if it has 10,000 troops on ground, that about $5bn yearly.

The primary reason why France holds on to these ex-colonies is to project power or influence in the global community. It also helps their companies as well but the benefit isn't worth the trouble. The British on the other hand cut ties to their ex colonies far deeper than the French which was the right thing to do.

owobokiri:


Bros, @ the bolded, you joke too much!
I want to believe you're paid to write this because if you're truly an independent African and you believe that fellow Africans should pay for the military expenses incurred by the French in keeping fellow Africans as perennial French subjects, then what you need is deeper education..

Stretching your wierd logic a bit further, it's then safe to say that the French who are still collecting cash from some colonies as payments for colonialism while defraying their extra spendings through over printing of the currencies used by these unfortunate countries , are right with their actions! Right?

I mean it's an "agreement" between the french an her former African colonies that for any mineral resources found in these countries, the french must be called first to handle the business in their own terms and that even if the french rejects such business ventures, they must have the final say on who takes that up! This is not barefaced robbery to you?

Get a grip, bro..

owobokiri:


Bros, @ the bolded, you joke too much!
I want to believe that you're paid handsomely to write these, because if you're truly an independent African thinker and you believe that fellow Africans should pay for the military expenses incurred by the French/foreign imperialists in the process of keeping fellow Africans as perennial French subjects in their homelands, then what you need is deeper education..

Stretching your wierd logic a bit further, it's then safe to say that the French who are still collecting cash from some colonies as payments for colonialism while defraying their extra budgetary spendings through over printing of the currencies used by these unfortunate countries , are right with their actions! Right?

I mean it's an "agreement" between the french an her former African colonies during the decolonization period that for any mineral resources found in these countries, the french must be called first to handle the business on their own terms and that even if the french rejects such business ventures, they must have the final say on who takes that up! This is not barefaced robbery to you?

Get a grip, bro..

grandstar:


I don't know if the French are collecting cash directly from these countries but it won't be much

The French for your info aren't big in minerals. The only mineral they are known for is oil and even their oil companies are minnows compared to their American counterparts or even British giants like Shell and BP.

It is only in crude oil that the French actively exploit in their former colonies and I doubt total production is up to 1m bpd.

Even if the french steal the entire 1m bpd produce revenue, that will give you 1m x $70 x 365 days which will give you about $26bn. This is a far cry from $500bn people are peddling around.

You're also screaming about the French have the first right to projects in these countries. The GDP of the entire Francophone nations I doubt is up to 500bn.

Assume these countries spend a generous 5% of GDP on infrastructural projects, that is only $25bn. If you add $25bn and 26bn together you get $51bn.

Kaysalas:

I don't know what their largest exports and imports are, but I do know that the french have an overbearing influence on them.
Infact, the french rode on the backs of Africans to be the "super"power they are today. This had always irritated the Russians who are now doing everything possible to break their influence in Africa. You will never know the extent of pillaging France had done and continues to do in Africa. Could be even more than those figures you are disputing.

fredoooooo:
Why can't the west just leave Africa alone ...

blueAgent:



What a dumb thoughtless comment.
The GDP of the entire western African francophone countries is not even up to 300billion dollars , so only you know were France gets such money from.

obedience4:


Bloody liar, 50℅ of French GDP
Dude if you can prove this rubbish you just wrote enhh.
Jezzz nawaoo, do you know the French GDP
Stop writing rubbish just because you want likes and shares..
Write with sense not everyone here is dumb,

Powersurge:



I have already replied your fellow dumb poster above. This was the response:



It is appalling that semi-illiterates will be ghe first to insult people online. It is very dumb to equate a countries with its GDP. It is very dumb to equal countries with trillions, perhaps even quadrillion worth of resources to only its GDP.

Did you know that in 2014, 16 African countries signed a pact with France to supply $500b annually? Are you aware that Francophone countries must have their reserve in French currency? Did you know that only French companies have the final say concerning the extraction, processing and sales of natural resources in the 16 Francophone countries?

In March 2008, former French President Jacques Chirac was quoted as saying, “Without Africa, France will slide down into the rank of a third world power”. His predecessor, the enigmatic François Mitterrand already prophesied as far back as 1957 that, “Without Africa, France will have no history in the 21st century”.

obedience4:


Mumu, am not asking you what a former French president said, can you prove that 50% of French GDP is gotten from Africa..

Ode don't know that two African countries uses USA dollars, they are over 12 sovereign nations using American dollars as there legal tender.
So because the USA treasury print their dollars and keep there reserves we are now to say those countries contributes to over 50% of USA GDP.

Ode in case you don't know France GDP(PPP) is $3.666 trillion dollars 10th in the world.
While GDP(nominal) is $2.936 trillion dollars 7th in the world..
So some rag tag African countries that can't even feed themselves contributed over more than 1.5 trillion.to France economy..
If I ask you to explain what GDP is now you don't know..

Powersurge:


You are irremediable!

Kaysalas:

It's hard to push back when you don't have the guns to go toe to toe with the greedy b@$tards!