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Felabrity:
he was a senator under SDP

Dey play

Ok I'm not even discussing Tinubu or atiku here. Our discussion is Peter Obi and APGA.

peepydelano:
Such person should not be trusted, never believe anything that comes from his mouth. He has zero integrity and very selfish, it is for these reasons he doesn’t give it a second thought before dumping a party to join another. I will never be part of the gullible ones. He cannot effect any positive change in Nigeria, na bark he just dy bark everywhere. Same person that swore with his life never to live APGA

Oga go and sit down. Is it Tinubu that brought Buhari that can be trusted? More than half of buhari's economic team is made up of Tinubu"s recommendations and yet here we are,master strategist indeed

pineed:
Ok I'm not even discussing Tinubu or atiku here. Our discussion is Peter Obi and APGA.

why are you making it a big deal?

Politicians move from one party to another for their interest sake

Felabrity:
why are you making it a big deal?

Politicians move from one party to another for their interest sake

Point of correction.. astute politicians don't move about.. they stay, build, form alliance.

When I heard Kwankwaso at Chatham House, I just wished APGA, NNPP, SDP and other parties formed alliance to unseat the big two parties

LP won't take Obi anywhere unfortunately

Loliip:
Your opinion does not count

Loud am

pineed:
Point of correction.. astute politicians don't move about.. they stay, build, form alliance.

When I heard Kwankwaso at Chatham House, I just wished APGA, NNPP, SDP and other parties formed alliance to unseat the big two parties

LP won't take Obi anywhere unfortunately

I am guessing you followed the previous alliance rumours between LP and NNPP, which didn't lead to anywhere

Everyone has moved on and decided to test their popularity on election day

How many "astute politicians" are out there?

I clearly told you Tinubu was once in SDP

And I am guessing a deal was struck before his party and other parties merged in 2013-2014 that he will become the next president from the party

He had to wait 8 years for his turn

Nigerians (not Peter obi) don't have that time

Felabrity:
I am guessing you followed the previous alliance rumours between LP and NNPP, which didn't lead to anywhere

Everyone has moved on and decided to test their popularity on election day

How many "astute politicians" are out there?

I clearly told you Tinubu was once in SDP

And I am guessing a deal was struck before his party and other parties merged in 2013-2014 that he will become the next president from the party

He had to wait 8 years for his turn

Nigerians (not Peter obi) don't have that time

The alliance didn't lead to anywhere.. you know why.

Kwankwaso issue wasn't with Peter Obi as a person.. But the "little" party he was running under.

I tell you if Obi had been with APGA, formed alliance with Senators, HoRs, Governors under APGA, Kwankwaso wouldn't have rejected his alliance. That's the truth.

pineed:
The alliance didn't lead to anywhere.. you know why.

Kwankwaso issue wasn't with Peter Obi as a person.. But the "little" party he was running under.

I tell you if Obi had been with APGA, formed alliance with Senators, HoRs, Governors under APGA, Kwankwaso wouldn't have rejected his alliance. That's the truth.

like there are 500 senators in APGA

APGA Is clearly an Igbo party, and he does not want to be seen as an Igbo agenda

Plus, he left APGA for a reason, so he can't just run back to them.

Go and read more about why the alliance failed, it had nothing to do with Labour party itself, NNPP was only few months old, Labour party has been existing for ages .

peepydelano:
Such person should not be trusted, never believe anything that comes from his mouth. He has zero integrity and very selfish, it is for these reasons he doesn’t give it a second thought before dumping a party to join another. I will never be part of the gullible ones. He cannot effect any positive change in Nigeria, na bark he just dy bark everywhere. Same person that swore with his life never to live APGA

una go just dey spread nonsense rumours

When did he say he won't leave apga?

Like your candidate did not also jump to another party

Felabrity:
like there are 500 senators in APGA

APGA Is clearly an Igbo party, and he does not want to be seen as an Igbo agenda

Plus, he left APGA for a reason, so he can't just run back to them.

Go and read more about why the alliance failed, it had nothing to do with Labour party itself, NNPP was only few months old, Labour party has been existing for ages .

Not true bro.. APGA I learnt had structures in North Central. Did that former min of Information Labaran Maku from Nasarawa not run under APGA?

Aside PDP, all other parties since 1999 started as regional parties..

SadiqBabaSani:
Urchinus,

LP move was a masterpiece,


They never envisaged it,


A party with National acceptance without any sort of ethnic coloring,

APGA would av been a trap, it would av easily been tagged Igbo party, but in Lp they had nothing to talk about than to say, No structure

make he dey play

pineed:
Not true bro.. APGA I learnt had structures in North Central. Did that former min of Information from Nasarawa not run under APGA?

Aside PDP, all other parties since 1999 started as regional parties..

had and have are different things

And APGA national chairman is an Igbo person

They should also field an Igbo candidate?

Let's see how this political year 2023 goes anyway.

I see him leaving LP though

Peter Obi dis Peter Obi dat. .

Una no dey tire...

Tochi3:
Peter Obi dis Peter Obi dat. .

Una no dey tire...

Lol.. na matured minds dey discuss politics here bro.

pineed:
Lol.. na matured minds dey discuss politics here bro.

Ok..

You be matured mind now..

Wonders shall never end..

GeneralPula:
You think building a party is a Joke?

If e easy, Atiku for don run am..

Then you must give it to Tinubu who has remained steadfast with his party

Ttalk:
Then you must give it to Tinubu who has remained steadfast with his party

I give to Tinubu 100%..

That’s why he’s a national leader..

Felabrity:
why are you making it a big deal?

Politicians move from one party to another for their interest sake

Tinubu was part of people that formed AD and AD came majorly out of NADECO of which Tinubu was an arrowhead.

The electoral act that birthed SDP and NRC of the old have been reviewed, because the fourth republic party adopted SDP name doesn't translate to same party where Abiola contested

pineed:
I've never heard of Tinubu in SDP. It's ACN I know of

When Tinubu was a senator, was it in APC? He should have stayed in SDP and build it to national acceptance. Or you aren't aware he was in SDP @ some point in time? Olodo your eyes go clear since u lack history lesson.

I can see a subterranean display of selfish attack directed by an urchin. But your own folly was brutally exposed by eggheads in here.

Come back again with another folly. Surely, u will be beaten to pulp.

pineed:
Let's be realistic, LP can't take Peter Obi anywhere. Moving from APGA to PDP then to LP was a big red flag and showed lack of political astuteness.

The biggest mistake Peter Obi made leaving APGA which Chief Ojukwu founded and was gradually gaining momentum from a regional party.

He should have remained in APGA, kept building it from regional to become national party by forming alliances with other regional parties like NNPP, SDP, ACN, ANPP, etc.

I think apart from Anambra state, other eastern states had Governors, Senators, HoRs, etc. I can't remember if states outside the south East if APGA had elected members. I think Gov. Okorocha was elected on APGA platform (I stand to be corrected).

Moving to PDP was a wrong move.. the worst one is LP which is no where near APGA in all ramifications.

By now, APGA would have formed strong alliance with other parties like NNPP and SDP to unseat the two ruling parties. For example his alliance with Rabiu Kwankwaso would have been formidable if he had run under the well-known APGA platform.

I truly wish him well.. but I see Peter Obi again leaving LP after the elections.

Had Obi stayed in APGA, they woukd have said he is in an "Igbo party" chasing Igbo agenda

No matter where Obi went to, people would have had something negative to say.

Nightwolf1:
When Tinubu was a senator, was it in APC? He should have stayed in SDP and build it to national acceptance. Or you aren't aware he was in SDP @ some point in time? Olodo your eyes go clear since u lack history lesson.

I can see a subterranean display of selfish attack directed by an urchin. But your own folly was brutally exposed by eggheads in here.

Come back again with another folly. Surely, u will be beaten to pulp.

Don't twist history, read my post above, there were decree and bills acts that abolished the old parties of which SDP where Tinubu contested.

Because new party adopt SDP doesn't translate to the same thing. NADECO group from AD, AD transformed to AC to ACN and then merge to form APC.

Don't twist the record

Ttalk:
Don't twist history, read my post above, there were decree and bills acts that abolished the old parties of which SDP where Tinubu contested.

Because new party adopt SDP doesn't translate to the same thing. NADECO group from AD, AD transformed to AC to ACN and then merge to form APC.

Don't twist the record

We are saying the same thing. Tinubu should have carried on with SDP till date afterall the party is operational today. Why did he abandon SDP and move to AD is the crux of the matter.

pineed:
We're saying the same thing bro.. it takes time

He and other APGA politicians should have been patient to build APGA to national level. It can take 2decades

so People like you will campaign that it’s an Igbo party ? . Lol. Obi made the master stroke by using Labour Party

Ttalk:
Then you must give it to Tinubu who has remained steadfast with his party

I tell you bro.. I'm not a fan of Tinubu in many things.. but for his ability to stay and build his party from a regional to national party I respect him for this.

Ttalk:
Tinubu was part of people that formed AD and AD came majorly out of NADECO of which Tinubu was an arrowhead.

The electoral act that birthed SDP and NRC of the old have been reviewed, because the fourth republic party adopted SDP name doesn't translate to same party where Abiola contested

It's very clear.. thanks for the enlightenment

gidgiddy:
Had Obi stayed in APGA, they woukd have said he is in an "Igbo party" chasing Igbo agenda

No matter where Obi went to, people would have had something negative to say.

As I said earlier I disagree.. all parties expect PDP started as regional or even "tribal" parties.

The strategy is simply forming alliance with other regional parties like NNPP, SDP, etc. hence APGA would have grown from "Igbo" party to national party

A party is regional is they can't form alliance.

orion7:
so People like you will campaign that it’s an Igbo party ? . Lol. Obi made the master stroke by using Labour Party

By March you'll realise he made a big mistake. By the way I don't campaign on ethnicity.

pineed:
Let's be realistic, LP can't take Peter Obi anywhere. Moving from APGA to PDP then to LP was a big red flag and showed lack of political astuteness.

The biggest mistake Peter Obi made was leaving APGA which Chief Ojukwu founded and was gradually gaining momentum from a regional party to a national party.

He should have remained in APGA, kept building it from regional to become national party by forming alliances with other regional parties like NNPP, SDP, ACN, ANPP, etc.

I think apart from Anambra state, other eastern states had Governors, Senators, HoRs, etc. I can't remember if states outside the south East if APGA had elected members. I think Gov. Okorocha was elected on APGA platform (I stand to be corrected).

Moving to PDP was a wrong move.. the worst one is LP which is no where near APGA in all ramifications.

By now, APGA would have formed strong alliance with other parties like NNPP and SDP to unseat the two ruling parties. For example his alliance with Rabiu Kwankwaso would have been formidable if he had run under the well-known APGA platform.

I truly wish him well.. but I see Peter Obi again leaving LP after the elections.

The feeling is mutual. I think Tinubu should have stayed back and built ACN as a regional representative party in the mold of UPN.
Ewu Bourdillon.

Obi get sense pass all urchins and their slave master combined. If Obi had run on APGA platform, people like him will be the first to call OBI a regional candidate and dismiss the move as political suicide

OfficialAPCNig:
Obi get sense pass all urchins and their slave master combined. If Obi had run on APGA platform, people like him will be the first to call OBI a regional candidate and dismiss the move as political suicide

You think so? Well let's wait and see events after this coming election