I have heard this line for a thousand times, that nodejs is not a language but a runtime. But nobody is calling python or php a runtime, but they are all scripting languages. To run a python file , you type “python <file name>” or you include a shebang on top of the file same as nodejs , php, bash etc. But these nodejs guys decided only nodejs out of all the scripting languages is a runtime. And it’s not like you can duplicate any frontend javascript, and run it with node and it will work. The api’s available to them are different, nodejs uses common js, has some inbuilt modules like the path module which frontend javascript doesn’t. I know nodejs makes use of chrome v8 javascript engine. But I believe they didnt copy and paste the codes, there must be some modifications. It would be better to say they have some similarities . But nodejs for me is a scripting language that has a runtime just like other scripting languages like bash , powershell , ruby, perl etc has their own runtime. Because nodejs adopted javascript as its scripting language doesn’t disqualify it from being a language.

How the maker take node js?

chukwuebuka65:
I have heard this line for a thousand times, that nodejs is not a language but a runtime. But nobody is calling python or php a runtime, but they are all scripting languages. To run a python file , you type “python <file name>” or you include a shebang on top of the file same as nodejs , php, bash etc. But these nodejs guys decided only nodejs out of all the scripting languages is a runtime. And it’s not like you can duplicate any frontend javascript, and run it with node and it will work. The api’s available to them are different, nodejs uses common js, has some inbuilt modules like the path module which frontend javascript doesn’t. I know nodejs makes use of chrome v8 javascript engine. But I believe they didnt copy and paste the codes, there must be some modifications. It would be better to say they have some similarities . But nodejs for me is a scripting language that has a runtime just like other scripting languages like bash , powershell , ruby, perl etc has their own runtime. Because nodejs adopted javascript as its scripting language doesn’t disqualify it from being a language.

Interesting and educating rant.

However there's a problem. According to your argument, Python and Anaconda are two different languages. And I've never heard anyone in the python community say such.

chukwuebuka65:
I have heard this line for a thousand times, that nodejs is not a language but a runtime. But nobody is calling python or php a runtime, but they are all scripting languages. To run a python file , you type “python <file name>” or you include a shebang on top of the file same as nodejs , php, bash etc. But these nodejs guys decided only nodejs out of all the scripting languages is a runtime. And it’s not like you can duplicate any frontend javascript, and run it with node and it will work. The api’s available to them are different, nodejs uses common js, has some inbuilt modules like the path module which frontend javascript doesn’t. I know nodejs makes use of chrome v8 javascript engine. But I believe they didnt copy and paste the codes, there must be some modifications. It would be better to say they have some similarities . But nodejs for me is a scripting language that has a runtime just like other scripting languages like bash , powershell , ruby, perl etc has their own runtime. Because nodejs adopted javascript as its scripting language doesn’t disqualify it from being a language.

Long talks my bro.

It's like saying ReactNative is a language and not a "framework" that allows u build apps on mobile:

The language is JavaScript...

They all have .JS As suffix to tell you they're all children of JavaScript the real language or they're trying to enable JavaScript work or function were it shouldn't in the first place.


NODEJs is a runtime... not a language.

GREATIGBOMAN:


Long talks my bro.

It's like saying ReactNative is a language and not a "framework" that allows u build apps on mobile:

The language is JavaScript...

They all have .JS As suffix to tell you they're all children of JavaScript the real language or they're trying to enable JavaScript work or function were it shouldn't in the first place.


NODEJs is a runtime... not a language.

If that is the case, it will make sense to have a name that describes the combination of nodejs and javascript as one language just like other scripting languages. But until that happens , nodejs for me is language .

GeoAfrikana:

Interesting and educating rant.

However there's a problem. According to your argument, Python and Anaconda are two different languages. And I've never heard anyone in the python community say such.

Anaconda is a runtime for python, right? And people don’t learn anaconda but python, right? But why then do people learn nodejs ? They should just learn javascript and be able to write nodejs applications.

chukwuebuka65:



If that is the case, it will make sense to have a name that describes the combination of nodejs and javascript as one language just like other scripting languages. But until that happens , nodejs for me is language .

Ok o.
Don't say that in interviews sha

chukwuebuka65:


Anaconda is a runtime for python, right? And people don’t learn anaconda but python, right? But why then do people learn nodejs ? They should just learn javascript and be able to write nodejs applications.

Node.js is 100% JavaScript na... u learn it because typical JavaScript from frontend don't teach u how to handle and process user requests from Frontend or how to communicate with a database.

You're basically learning how to use JavaScript on the backend, not NODE the runtime per say.

Node which is the runtime just helps your JavaScript which you've written make sense to the operating system outside your browser.

GREATIGBOMAN:


Node.js is 100% JavaScript na... u learn it because typical [b]JavaScript from frontend [/b]don't teach u how to handle and process user requests from Frontend or how to communicate with a database.

You're basically learning how to use JavaScript on the backend, not NODE the runtime per say.

Node which is the runtime just helps your JavaScript which you've written make sense to the operating system outside your browser.

Before nodejs there was nothing like javascript on the frontend. Javascript was javascript the one we all know, that is the javascript on the frontend as you call it. Those features added by nodejs is why I said it should be a language on its own.

Bunch of idiots on this section... Nothing wey una sabi for here.

chukwuebuka65:


Before nodejs there was nothing like javascript on the frontend. Javascript was javascript the one we all know, that is the javascript on the frontend as you call it. Those features added by nodejs is why I said it should be a language on its own.

All the features you're talking about u write them with JavaScript programming language.

WTF

JavaScript is used to talk to V8, just the same way JavaScript talks to Chrome Native API via Chrome API, It's a runtime no matter how much I see it. I say that because remember V8 is JavaScript Engine, meaning a C++ that can not only speak JS but can translate JS into Native, I won't call NodeJS a language. it's how ReactNative can talk to NativeModules and NativeModules talk to JS back. They are just using JS because it's easier to write, it could have been done in PHP Syntax or Dart, just like how the Android framework uses Java to communicate with native.

I could be wrong though, but NodeJS as a language nah, that's just V8

@poster a simple Google search would have saved you from writing and buttressing that Nodejs is a Language

qtguru:
JavaScript is used to talk to V8, just the same way JavaScript talks to Chrome Native API via Chrome API, It's a runtime no matter how much I see it. I say that because remember V8 is JavaScript Engine, meaning a C++ that can not only speak JS but can translate JS into Native, I won't call NodeJS a language. it's how ReactNative can talk to NativeModules and NativeModules talk to JS back. They are just using JS because it's easier to write, it could have been done in PHP Syntax or Dart, just like how the Android framework uses Java to communicate with native.

I could be wrong though, but NodeJS as a language nah, that's just V8

Ok , agreed that nodejs is runtime environment. But if someone is writing an application using nodejs, What language do we say they are coding in?

DepressedLoser:
Bunch of idiots on this section... Nothing wey una sabi for here.

Depressed loser indeed.

belovez:
@poster a simple Google search would have saved you from writing and buttressing that Nodejs is a Language

That’s a good idea. I have been talking about runtime without knowing what it means thereby saying that it is a programming language. Pls , I don’t know what it is . Can you tell me what is ? And also tell me the difference between a runtime and a language.

chukwuebuka65:


Ok , agreed that nodejs is runtime environment. But if someone is writing an application using nodejs, What language do we say they are coding in?

V8 is Javascript Engine, so Javascript, I think you're looking at it the wrong way. It should be what syntax is used to talk to Node.

Because Java too can parse JS (Rhino) but C++ is faster I hope it helps

Javascript on Node is Scripting, you can't access the DOM, BOM API in Node, just like how Android Java doesn't have almost the full set as Java SE ( pls correct me o, I might be outdated)

qtguru:
Javascript on Node is Scripting, you can't access the DOM, BOM API in Node, just like how Android Java doesn't have almost the full set as Java SE ( pls correct me o, I might be outdated)

You are still coming back to my point. Because the javascript you write for the browser is different from that of the backend , that’s why I am making my arguments. The V8 that chrome uses is not exactly the same V8 that node uses. For example, nodejs V8 understands the keyword “require”, chrome V8 doesn’t. And when you are looking to develop a backend in node , you ask for nodejs developer and not javascript developer. I am just making these arguments because of the newbie that being thrown into confusion when they are told that nodejs is not a programming but a runtime without an explanation of what a runtime is. The guy above that’s asked me to go to google that I asked what a runtime is has still not replied me.

OP, You should have simply asked someone to explain this to you instead of insisting that you're more knowledgeable than seasoned programmers who have always referred to it as a runtime.

To explain to you, JavaScript was created initially as a DOM manipulation language and it has been serving that purpose ever since. Google's V8 engine is used to parse frontend JavaScript and execute the instructions. It only works on your browser as V8 engine is embedded in Google Chrome.

NodeJs is a runtime environment that is used to execute JavaScript code outside the browser. In this case, we are taking JavaScript out of the browser and executing it with the same V8 engine but this time with NodeJs as a runtime (the browser serves this purpose in the frontend). Some modules and global variables were then added to the runtime to enable different functions which could not be done originally on the browser.

I genuinely hope you understand this, If you have further doubts, I'll be pleased to clear them.

Bro you need to take a nap.

chukwuebuka65:



You are still coming back to my point. Because the javascript you write for the browser is different from that of the backend , that’s why I am making my arguments. [b]The V8 that chrome uses is not exactly the same V8 that node uses. [/b]For example, nodejs V8 understands the keyword “require”, chrome V8 doesn’t. And when you are looking to develop a backend in node , you ask for nodejs developer and not javascript developer. I am just making these arguments because of the newbie that being thrown into confusion when they are told that nodejs is not a programming but a runtime without an explanation of what a runtime is. The guy above that’s asked me to go to google that I asked what a runtime is has still not replied me.

Yeah I'm out of this discussion

chukwuebuka65:



You are still coming back to my point. Because the javascript you write for the browser is different from that of the backend , that’s why I am making my arguments. [b]The V8 that chrome uses is not exactly the same V8 that node uses. [/b]For example, nodejs V8 understands the keyword “require”, chrome V8 doesn’t. And when you are looking to develop a backend in node , you ask for nodejs developer and not javascript developer. I am just making these arguments because of the newbie that being thrown into confusion when they are told that nodejs is not a programming but a runtime without an explanation of what a runtime is. The guy above that’s asked me to go to google that I asked what a runtime is has still not replied me.

"The V8 that chrome uses is not exactly the same V8 that node uses."
Yeah I'm out of this discussion,

chukwuebuka65:



You are still coming back to my point. Because the javascript you write for the browser is different from that of the backend , that’s why I am making my arguments. The V8 that chrome uses is not exactly the same V8 that node uses. For example, nodejs V8 understands the keyword “require”, chrome V8 doesn’t. And when you are looking to develop a backend in node , you ask for nodejs developer and not javascript developer. I am just making these arguments because of the newbie that being thrown into confusion when they are told that nodejs is not a programming but a runtime without an explanation of what a runtime is. The guy above that’s asked me to go to google that I asked what a runtime is has still not replied me.

Chukwuemeka I don't know u as someone who smokes weed.

This is unlike u sha.

If Node was as programming language as you're insisting they wouldn't have added JavaScript in its name na

People way create NODEJs told you it's a runtime and you're here arguing up an down mixing facts with your own emotions as if the world revolves inside your head.

Haven't you heard companies say they're looking for a REACT OR ANGULAR developer?

Does that make the aforementioned a programming language? 😆

My advice don't share this idea outside nairaland.

Una don win.

chukwuebuka65:
Una don win.

It's not about winning, it's about what's stated, you're free to believe what you believe as long as you're not in front of professionals, facts will be brought up

chukwuebuka65:
I have heard this line for a thousand times, that nodejs is not a language but a runtime. But nobody is calling python or php a runtime, but they are all scripting languages. To run a python file , you type “python <file name>” or you include a shebang on top of the file same as nodejs , php, bash etc. But these nodejs guys decided only nodejs out of all the scripting languages is a runtime. And it’s not like you can duplicate any frontend javascript, and run it with node and it will work. The api’s available to them are different, nodejs uses common js, has some inbuilt modules like the path module which frontend javascript doesn’t. I know nodejs makes use of chrome v8 javascript engine. But I believe they didnt copy and paste the codes, there must be some modifications. It would be better to say they have some similarities . But nodejs for me is a scripting language that has a runtime just like other scripting languages like bash , powershell , ruby, perl etc has their own runtime. Because nodejs adopted javascript as its scripting language doesn’t disqualify it from being a language.

without JavaScript there is no node.js

chukwuebuka65:


Anaconda is a runtime for python, right? And people don’t learn anaconda but python, right? But why then do people learn nodejs ? They should just learn javascript and be able to write nodejs applications.

see brother , brother wey mumu

stop smoking kpai before u open nairaland
nodejs is not a language
if u know ur onions well everything that claim to be node js blah blah u can run it in a vanilla js
python is languages but nodejs and php are not

chukwuebuka65:


That’s a good idea. I have been talking about runtime without knowing what it means thereby saying that it is a programming language. Pls , I don’t know what it is . Can you tell me what is ? And also tell me the difference between a runtime and a language.

As a programmer your top notch skills is research and ability to learn and unlearn. I will still refer you to my first post Google search or visit the Nodejs documentation you will see the explanation clearly dont argue blindly.

Nodejs is built on the chrome v8 engine
what is chrome v8?
chrome V8 is a javascript engine

javascript was initially design for web browser use
Nodejs is javascript that can be used outside a web browser