Is there a greater price or value when a woman goes through all those hours of labour to give birth to her child? I read somewhere that when women give birth there is a particular chemical that is released that bonds the mother and child - the same with br[i]e[/i]as[i]t[/i] feeding, according to science.

I guess I've grown up in the belief that part of the parcel of pregnancy was to also pass through that labour of love by secreting the child naturally - of course this is just my own notion not scientific fact.

Now I must underline that I know any mother loves her child but I think a part of me reckons that perhaps in vanity or not wanting to pass through such pain for the sake of their child leads me to question the fortitude of their love at that particular period. I imagine that any mother would be willing to carry any kind of pain for their children (unborn or not).

P.S It's not my intention to cast judgment or frown on peoples choices I'm just naturally inquisitive - I hope I haven't offended anyone most especially mothers.

PERSONALLY, I DO NOT KNOW A THING ABOUT THE CHEMICAL BEING RELEASED WHEN TO DELIVER THAT BONDS A MOTHER TO HER CHILD, BUT I KNOW BREASTFEEDING, GIVES THAT MOTHER AND CHILD BOND, WHEN I WAS WEANING MY CHILD, I CRIED, BECAUSE HE WANTED HIS 'MUMMY', THOUGH HE STILL CLINGS ON TO ME AND RUBS HIS HEAD AGAINST MY CHEST OOO AND PRETENDS HE IS JUST HUGGING ME,

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^^^ u are seriously on point

Had an emergency CS and it was horrible. I did not immediately bond with my baby as i was trying to get through the pain and it was hard. It took almost 3 weeks to feel that "bond". Anywayz sha, i dey ready to av pikin nos 2 but the pikin dey take style late.

well sadly some "women" do see the need to place greater price on vagi.nal birth because in their deluded thinking it makes you more of a woman. you havent seen where some women are outright insulted and demeaned by other women because they birthed their children through CS? ever wonder why some women hide the fact that they gave birth through CS from others? inasmuch as elective CS and co are now more in the spotlight, the stigma of CS is still booming in some places

~Sissy~:

well sadly some "women" do see the need to place greater price on vagi.nal birth because in their deluded thinking it makes you more of a woman. you havent seen where some women are outright insulted and demeaned by other women because they birthed their children through CS? ever wonder why some women hide the fact that they gave birth through CS from others? inasmuch as elective CS and co are now more in the spotlight, the stigma of CS is still booming in some places

The level of civility is at play here, (you are very right!!!) such women do not understand and would never understand.

chaircover:

I dont think that women who choose to go for an elective CS do so because they dont want to feel pain. The Pain of a CS is probably on par with labour. It is major surgery and the wound wont just heal in 24 hours.

I have heard reasons such as wanting the baby on a particular day to fit in with other things, not wanting tears or an episiotomy, a traumatic previous labour etc but on the whole I dont think that that many women actually request for an elective CS for the reasons above. Many women have an elective CS for medical reasons & many others end up with emergency CS's

The most important thing is that baby and mother are healthy

very Informative . .  I can't believe I never even factored in the pain of CS . . . I 've heard women who months after birth still feel the pain.

~Sissy~:

well sadly some "women" do see the need to place greater price on vagi.nal birth because in their deluded thinking it makes you more of a woman. you havent seen where some women are outright insulted and demeaned by other women because they birthed their children through CS? ever wonder why some women hide the fact that they gave birth through CS from others? inasmuch as elective CS and co are now more in the spotlight, the stigma of CS is still booming in some places

Yes, sadly I believe there is a stigma attached to CS. Many (like me) don't understand it in it's entirety and then we are inundated with stories of celebrities having cesarean and some of us assume that it might be a high maintenance or even vanity thing, since it's casted as a lifestyle choice because of the way it has been portrayed in the media i.e. . . "too posh to push".

ronkebp:

PERSONALLY, I DO NOT KNOW A THING ABOUT THE CHEMICAL BEING RELEASED WHEN TO DELIVER THAT BONDS A MOTHER TO HER CHILD, BUT I KNOW BREASTFEEDING, GIVES THAT MOTHER AND CHILD BOND, WHEN I WAS WEANING MY CHILD, I CRIED, BECAUSE HE WANTED HIS 'MUMMY',  THOUGH HE STILL CLINGS ON TO ME AND RUBS HIS HEAD AGAINST MY CHEST OOO AND PRETENDS HE IS JUST HUGGING ME,  

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Had an emergency CS and it was horrible. I did not immediately bond with my baby as i was trying to get through the pain and it was hard. It took almost 3 weeks to feel that "bond". Anywayz sha, i dey ready to av pikin nos 2 but the pikin dey take style late.

Goodluck

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Had an emergency CS and it was horrible. I did not immediately bond with my baby as i was trying to get through the pain and it was hard. It took almost 3 weeks to feel that "bond". Anywayz sha, i dey ready to av pikin nos 2 but the pikin dey take style late.

hehehehe so true jare. some make you feel you are somewhat "out there", if you didn't immediately bond with your baby.

There's nothing posh about CS I beg! Its extremely painful and the recovery time is much longer than a reguar birth. Most women do it for medical reasons and the few who chose to do it selectively still feel major pain afterwards. All in all, as long as both the mother and child are fine that is all that matters, you will bond with your child in due time

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I pray the next is a natural birth. I beg take it easy o with the s/h/a/g/s .Truth is having 2 CS' not so far apart is not healthy and ideal. A woman is supposed to wait for sometime except the other turns out to be natural birth. Some have had to wait a couple of years before trying again. Too many cases of ruptured uterus practitoners deal with cos of this. Just an advise sis.

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I don't think people chose to have CS most of the time. It just had to happen to save the mum n baby's life. There was this woman(this happened a long time ago) that was so bleeding, huge chunks of blood that some of us freaked out n was so scared there was a blood clot ,that we had to make a decision. Thank goodness her hubby agreed to it instanta, I mean his wife could barely keep her eyes open,very weak she was. CS was the only option, either that or lives would be lost.

There was also another woman who refused to have a CS despite pleas from surgeons and midwives that the baby's life was in danger. She and her man refused, when the baby came out, it was completely blue in colour, yea dead ofcourse. I remember wrapping the baby up in the little cot and taking the body to the next room. It was a pitiful sight. I did shed a tear or 2 that day.

Cesarean was used under certain circumstances but now days women opt for it even when they could deliver normally. i dont know but i think it is OK as a woman doesn't go through a lot of labor pains

@OP
I know of someone who had all babies via CS because she said its Straightforward and far better,not for any medical reason.Another Pharmacist relative after watching an emergency live CS section told me the same thing only she quickly changed her mind when we went  visiting and saw the terrible pain the lady who had the CS was in. For me its whichever is safer at the time of delivery either CS or natural birth so far mother and child are alive and doing well.

oluite:

@OP
I know of someone who had all babies via CS because she said its Straightforward and far better,not for any medical reason.

. . . hmm interesting. How many children did she have? I heard that a woman can only employ CS up until a certain amount of births.

2 children.

CS or natural , all na to born pickin,

some natural births donot bond immediately and CS does not mean you will cook your child for dinner,

Lets gather knowledge and depend on the truth only, choose what works for you and let go of Dogma.

I have two kids, and opted for elective CS for my 2nd. Reason been a long and traumatic previous child birth. Despite my 1st child was born virginally, i actually do not recollect or have favorable memories of the birth. I was in labour for 36hours, my water had broken at home on a Thursday morning abt 7am, but the midwife's on examination ddnt blv me and said membrane still intact. I was i so much pain and couldn't sleep or rest, as apparently the baby was laying back to back and pressing down on. so I was pressed, but not no pee would come out. Anyway i stayed back at the hospital and finally got reexamined Friday morning after much begging, only for the midwife to say 'he's got so much hair'. meaning for them to feel his hair, the water must have broken and i was with them all along and they kept saying it hadn't. Now you would imagine that since my water had broken more than 24hrs ago, and my labour wasn't proceeding as expected, they shd fastrack it, due to the possibility of infections for both mother and child.

But hell no, the took me through the A - Z of all medical options; i took all the pain relief options, gas and air, pethidine, epidural and wat more. I was literally begging for CS, but was made to sign going through forceps, vastrum (not sure its the right spelling) then CS as a last resort. My idea is we are going to 'Z', which is having a a healthy baby and a living mother, rigth. why take me through , P,Q,R, S, T, , just go to the damn Z once and for all. I didn't give birth until 10pm Friday night via forceps with a really painful epistomy.

Now tell me, after all that and much more post birth issues; 5 days on the hospital for antibiotics (due to the time btw water breaking and actual childbirth), my son was also in ICU for the first few days, or is it his cone shaped head, due to staying too long in the birth canal etc. I sensibly asked for a CS right from day 1 of discovering I was pregnant with a 2nd child. This time around, no shaking, all the consultants tried to convince me otherwise, but hell no.

My decision was based on 2 main issues,

1.) I would rather guarantee my child's life and endure post birth pain (which blv me wasn't as bad as the epistomy recovery, I was driving by day 4 and actually did very well.)
2.) I like some form of control and certainty around things. (i know ppl wld argue that nothing is uncertain, but blv me, some things are more certain than others). research it, the Royal family by standards give birth by CS, as it more controlled, likewise celebs, its not a matter of too posh to push, it because they are perceived to be very important, therefore their life's needs to be preserved by all means.

I won't be having anymore kids, but if I were, i would opt for CS without a doubt. Also in the last 2 months, 2 incidents have occurred to buttress my notion and argument. 4 of my friends were pregnant at the same time. of these 3 of them are very close friends, and ppl teased it was planned as they were just days apart. Can you imagine that of the 4, only 1 had a straight forward delivery? the 2nd actually gave birth the very next day after the 1st of my friends, yeah she delivered vaginally without issues but went into a comma some 30minutes after due to the birth trauma she experienced. She had a brain hemorrhage, whereby a vein burst and blood was collecting on her brain. She could have died. 2 months down the line, she is slowly recovering, we thank God. Still in the hospital, not yet set eyes on her baby, her memory is messed up and its still a long way from recovery.

the 3rd was trying for a vaginal delivery, but after a some days in the hospital and no induction process worked, they had to do CS. Only for them to discover the baby's heart was weak (another ICU trip), she had kidney issues, as she wsnt weeing and 2 weeks after is back in the hospital for lungs infections.

Makes one wonder, if only they had asked for elective CS from the very start.

Had a cs afta almost 48hrs of labor and still lost d baby due to prolonged labor. Ive just had baby 2 via elective cs and 9wks still waiting 4 d wound to fully but have my baby with me. Elective cs is a better option

Thanks U tsmith
My mind is made up: Its elective CS O for my wife. I no wan wahala

Que: My wife had surgery 2 remove fibroid. The wound healed quickly. Is there a diff btw this surgery healing and CS?

@drummaboy

I'm no medics, but from friends experiences, it the same cut for fibroid and CS. Ppl's body heal differently, so if your wife healed fine from her Fibroid ops, i reckon she wld do just as well from CS.

Also, from 3 friend's experiences with fibroid, it was safer to give birth via CS as often enough more fibroid would grow with the foetus. But at the end of the day, it is the doctor's and your wife's decision to make.

@oluchikeh - I experienced a lil delayed healing with my stitch as well, though mainly my fault as I was driving quite often and long distance, the seating position isn't the best for keeping the scar dry, which is essential for healing. I was prescribed antispectic powder, which worked a treat together with some TLC and attention.

Thanks again tsmith. I would show my wife ur response soon as I get home
She's a doc but can do wit those advices

Pls, if she wants to do a natural birth, let her do so. I wish i had a natural birth but things happen. I still want a natural birth but it is impossible now. God dey.