The senator is right.
The bill negate human rights of those doctors.
Also it will fizzle down and decline the progress of medical field.

Doctors should not worry, things will improve greatly soon.

Apc government will deliver.
The jagaban.

Emilo:
I'm sorry to say this. Nigeria is gone past the state of repair. Every sector is decayed. Where is the cleaning going to start from? That is why I was saying if I'm Obi I will not contest the election results. To fix the country is herculean task to begin, especially when u stole the mandate. Note, I did not vote for any person and will never vote. The reason is I don't understand why INEC head will be appointed by the presidency. It makes no sense

For Nigeria, u buy 2005 tokunbo or fourth used car and call pastor to pray for am, then u celebrate the big achievement. For Canada here, 2024 car na just any other car. Nobody send you. Nigeria is gone. No hope! I sorry O.

And they voted Bad performance party again! Suffer no dey tire this people aswear.

Brendaniel:
The only condition I can support the bill is for them to include in the bill that every elected person in Nigeria will not travel abroad for any medical reason for the period of his/her 4 years tenure, since they claim that graduates must serve the country for 5 years, they should also patronize that service from the graduates for 4 years in Nigeria....

They will then claim that they traveled for vacation and took ill while on same vacation.


You seems not to know the people we're dealing with.

Flier:
The bill is a very good thing and it supposed to be 10 year or 15 years, not 5 years.Brain drain is destroying Nigeria everyday there is no doctor in our hospitals anymore so this bill is super necessary before our death rate is out of the roof
Not all of us can afford to go abroad for treatment and if you know that your sole aim is to work abroad after you finish your study then you should go abroad to study not to use our system and facility to study and run abroad immediately you finished study
At the same time the government need to increase doctors salary and provide conductive working environment in order to encourage them to stay and encourage those abroad to come back
Brain drain isn’t a joke it destroy nations and that is why Indian,Russia and China always reject free visa from USA for their professional
5 years is too small must be 10 or 15 before we are all dead.
If you people don’t know,brain drain is an hybrid war
It destroy nations

Why not increase it to 25 years!

Do even Buhari and Tinubu believe in Nigeria's healthcare system?

peoplewww:


God bless you Sir. This people want to enslave Nigerians. It's almost as if that is what they are being paid for.

the agenda is to block every avenue that brings money to Nigerians. And sily Nigerians are busy applauding them!

See foreign direct investment FDI decreasing ever since 2015

RuddyFusion:
This is good thinking
Let them address the root issues rather than chase shadows
Once all root issues are addressed
- Brain drain will flee
- We will have more jobs here
- Naira will stabilize
- And all will be well

But this man's proposal is more or less the same as the bill he is slamming. Medical education is already subsidised in Nigerian public Universities hence why they're proposing this 5 years stuff.

Medical students could be obliged to choose between paying the standard market rate for their training or opting for government-subsidized training. Quality education in its real sense can't be free.

Those who however opted for subsidized training after their qualification would in return be compelled to work in Nigeria for a certain time or refund the subsidies. This is a practice obtainable even in advanced countries such as the UK

This is the best recommendation IMO. Yes, some may rant and curse, but it's only fair.

To train a medical doctor in UK/USA is far greater than it is here, and those countries are aware.

wonder233:
The average Nigerian doesn't care about all these. All they care about is their tribe and religion. Any other thing is really of no interest.

- Could that be because there is no "Nation/Nigeria building" going on? No Nation or Patron was built on nothing.

- To build a Nation you need core values that all the individual groups share.

- And who is a Nigerian? The one that protest injustice, then gets shot in the head and his/her lifeless body gets dragged on the dirty floor and hauled into a rickety van to be dumped in an undisclosed pit or unmarked grave, with others cheering on? Dey play.

If money spent yearly on medical tourism by politicians and VIP is invested in our health sector by a bill that prohibit medical tourism then the japa problem of health workers will become a thing of the past.

Always blaming other people for our failures.

In 1830, our kings and chiefs were selling their own people especially those they considered troublesome to whites in exchange for mirrors, salt, guns etc. In contemporary times, our politicians are selling the citizens indirectly by stealing their commonwealth and leaving the country underdeveloped so that they're forced to emigrate.

You keep blaming the whites for your failures. 400yrs of slavery? Has to be a choice- Kanye West

Elvis2kay:
In 1830 they came with ships to captured the best among us but today they are using different kinds of programme degrees to take the best brain out of AFRICA.

Onefornaija7:
I need advice please.


Are Jiji premium paid ads worth it?

If No, what are other better places to advertise gadgets like phones, laptops, cars?.

Bia, Afonja abi wetin be your name, are you suffering from some kind of metamask?

Stop going from thread to thread advertising this your nonsense.

Flier:
The bill is a very good thing and it supposed to be 10 year or 15 years, not 5 years.Brain drain is destroying Nigeria everyday there is no doctor in our hospitals anymore so this bill is super necessary before our death rate is out of the roof
Not all of us can afford to go abroad for treatment and if you know that your sole aim is to work abroad after you finish your study then you should go abroad to study not to use our system and facility to study and run abroad immediately you finished study
At the same time the government need to increase doctors salary and provide conductive working environment in order to encourage them to stay and encourage those abroad to come back
Brain drain isn’t a joke it destroy nations and that is why Indian,Russia and China always reject free visa from USA for their professional
5 years is too small must be 10 or 15 before we are all dead.
If you people don’t know,brain drain is an hybrid war
It destroy nations

Tell me what job opportunities do they have. Poor salary, no job , poor facilities, poor working environment , poor education even for medical student. No work security,
I will only support such bill only if all political post both elected and appointed will not travel for health care services and there children too must study in Nigeria.

Elvis2kay:
In 1830 they came with ships to captured the best among us but today they are using different kinds of programme degrees to take the best brain out of AFRICA.

Chief, Brain drain started since 1830

Flier:
The bill is a very good thing and it supposed to be 10 year or 15 years, not 5 years.Brain drain is destroying Nigeria everyday there is no doctor in our hospitals anymore so this bill is super necessary before our death rate is out of the roof
Not all of us can afford to go abroad for treatment and if you know that your sole aim is to work abroad after you finish your study then you should go abroad to study not to use our system and facility to study and run abroad immediately you finished study
At the same time the government need to increase doctors salary and provide conductive working environment in order to encourage them to stay and encourage those abroad to come back
Brain drain isn’t a joke it destroy nations and that is why Indian,Russia and China always reject free visa from USA for their professional
5 years is too small must be 10 or 15 before we are all dead.
If you people don’t know,brain drain is an hybrid war
It destroy nations

Why speak like an illiterate. So are you saying that if a child is hungry and then begins to cry , instead of giving the child food you will tape the child's mouth to stop the child from crying. Brain drain is an is a natural reaction to a problem created by politicians in Nigeria. If a politician can earn 30m annual why shouldn't other professionals earn alike or close. The bill is a reflection of everything wrong with Nigeria and its stupid, greedy and myopic politicians.

Why not ask them to also pay them what they pay politicians let's see if people will still leave the country. Instead you want them to step on there human rights of freedom of movement and you a citizen is applauding them. Pls stop supporting nonsense if they want to to curb brain drain they know what to do Instead of this enslavement bill.

Go and tell your oppressors to invest in health sector Instead of looting public funds. Also the political class to pass a bill for all public holders to use Nigerian hospitals.

Brendaniel:
The only condition I can support the bill is for them to include in the bill that every elected person in Nigeria will not travel abroad for any medical reason for the period of his/her 4 years tenure, since they claim that graduates must serve the country for 5 years, they should also patronize that service from the graduates for 4 years in Nigeria....

Playing the advocate here, my take is if those politicians are using their personal money, then to be honest I have no problem. The only issue is if they use govt funds

Btw, Benue had a similar program in place. So called bond.

Don't know how successful it is though

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Why speak like an illiterate. So are you saying that if a child is hungry and then begins to cry , instead of giving the child food you will tape the child's mouth to stop the child from crying. Brain drain is an is a natural reaction to a problem created by politicians in Nigeria. If a politician can earn 30m annual why shouldn't other professionals earn alike or close. The bill is a reflection of everything wrong with Nigeria and its stupid, greedy and myopic politicians.

Why not ask them to also pay them what they pay politicians let's see if people will still leave the country. Instead you want them to step on there human rights of freedom of movement and you a citizen is applauding them. Pls stop supporting nonsense if they want to to curb brain drain they know what to do Instead of this enslavement bill.

Go and tell your oppressors to invest in health sector Instead of looting public funds. Also the political class to pass a bill for all public holders to use Nigerian hospitals.[/quot enslavement

accordadoga29:
Ashiwaju is here.

There won't be any need for Brain Drain Bill because the urge to japa is going to reduce drastically.

Welcome to A New Nigeria.

Congratulations to everyone in advance! 🥂

is it the same ashiwaju that goes to Europe for medicals or which one?

Flier:
The bill is a very good thing and it supposed to be 10 year or 15 years, not 5 years.Brain drain is destroying Nigeria everyday there is no doctor in our hospitals anymore so this bill is super necessary before our death rate is out of the roof
Not all of us can afford to go abroad for treatment and if you know that your sole aim is to work abroad after you finish your study then you should go abroad to study not to use our system and facility to study and run abroad immediately you finished study
At the same time the government need to increase doctors salary and provide conductive working environment in order to encourage them to stay and encourage those abroad to come back
Brain drain isn’t a joke it destroy nations and that is why Indian,Russia and China always reject free visa from USA for their professional
5 years is too small must be 10 or 15 before we are all dead.
If you people don’t know,brain drain is an hybrid war
It destroy nations

Of the doctors left in Nigeria, how many are employed by the government. You guys are really funny. So you want them to keep all medical graduates in the country to do what exactly? What are the plans to employ them, in what capacity, on what salary scale.

Are doctors the only students trained on subsidized education?

Do you know how much more a doctor spends on his training from his personal pockets?

Are you aware most of the infrastructure in federal medical schools are provided by alumni? If you kill that spirit of "alumnism" , what do you think will become of all these funds. Recently, a former graduate from Ife donated about 1million dollar to the school, an alumni..

Are you aware medical students pay more than other undergraduates...in UI, an average undergraduate pay about 30,000 to 40,000. Medical students pay about #140,000 statutory school fees. Ditto for OAU, and many other federal schools.

Elvis2kay:
In 1830 they came with ships to captured the best among us but today they are using different kinds of programme degrees to take the best brain out of AFRICA.

why isn’t Africa offering same program and degree to its best brain?

Flier:
The bill is a very good thing and it supposed to be 10 year or 15 years, not 5 years.Brain drain is destroying Nigeria everyday there is no doctor in our hospitals anymore so this bill is super necessary before our death rate is out of the roof
Not all of us can afford to go abroad for treatment and if you know that your sole aim is to work abroad after you finish your study then you should go abroad to study not to use our system and facility to study and run abroad immediately you finished study
At the same time the government need to increase doctors salary and provide conductive working environment in order to encourage them to stay and encourage those abroad to come back
Brain drain isn’t a joke it destroy nations and that is why Indian,Russia and China always reject free visa from USA for their professional
5 years is too small must be 10 or 15 before we are all dead.
If you people don’t know,brain drain is an hybrid war
It destroy nations

You wrote well but you are bringing the cart before the horse. You stated in your writeup that the government needs to increase the doctors’ salary after they pass the bill. To think of it, will the bill have been necessary if the salaries were upped and other incentives put in place for a conducive work environment? Is that not what they should do first and see if there will still be brain drain. Even if there will, we are pretty guaranteed it will reduce to its barest minimum as we can’t restrict people from movement. So in essence, let them make the working environment conducive and see them staying rather than championing a bill that is anti-labour.

olabamijisamson:
Excellent proposal by Oloriegbe.
If you pay the standard/premium fees for your training (£35,000 per annum), you're free to japa but if you pay the Government subsidized fee (N500,000 per annum), you should work for 10years with the state or Federal Government.

I Support, if you are also in Support, say Aye.
The Ayes have it

Let's use our brains here. £35,000 (~N33,000,000), is that really the annual cost of training a medical doctor in Nigeria?

Flier:
The person that sponsored the bill should be given an away,brain drain is an hybrid war if you don’t know and we need to do everything to fight it otherwise this country will never develop
The intelligent people are leaving Nigeria every day,they use our limited facility to train then Japa leaving behind people yearning for their services
Read about Russia,China,and India,they don’t joke with their professional
They will sanction you if you give them free visa,and even go as far as turning it to Cold War
Brain drain is used as a weapon by developed world at the same time government need to do their best to encourage doctors to stay back in Nigeria

You're a liar. Indians are the highest foreign medical professionals in the UK. Stop it, you APC propaganda machine

accordadoga29:
Ashiwaju is here.

There won't be any need for Brain Drain Bill because the urge to japa is going to reduce drastically.

Welcome to A New Nigeria.

Congratulations to everyone in advance! 🥂

Day Dreaming.
Asiwaju kọ
Agbẹhinde ni

Is he not part of this useless government?

aybabz101:
The fact is Nigeria is bleeped up and a lot need to be done to rectify the situation. Brain drain is not only synonymous to the health sector, in fact the technology and financial industries has also had their fair share of experts relocating abroad. I know of a guy whom a leading Nigerian Bank is still paying his salaries even though he has relocated….working for the bank as a consultant coz there are no experienced persons to take up his role.

This bill is bidirectional to me as I believe the it is very unfair to train in Nigeria with the same dilapidated infrastructures, subsidized tuition and accommodation, and japa straight outa the country. It’s just fair to at least to a corporate responsibility to the society that gave u the skill in the first place.

Contrarily, the system is bleeped up.., they reduced to employ the doctors coz I know most doctors work in private institutions and only few are employed with the government and some are even unemployed. The employed ones are overworked, and exposed to varying degree of hazards. In fact some have to procure basic amenities such as gloves by themselves.

Like I said earlier, Nigerian doctors needs to know that all sectors of the country is bleeped up. And from my own biased perspective, doctor and nurses are still a top predators among the Nigerian educated population.

When I was in school, I fought for a lot of scholarships, all to no avail. Same with my colleagues who studied other biomedical sciences. But as a medical student ur chances of gaining a scholarship is like 70%. A number of my medical colleagues were earning above 600k per year as a student. They were on Mtn, Glo, Agbami, seplat etc. scholarships. In school, they have their own hostels and a lot of other privileges attached to them. They go on house jobs and are paid and their nysc always come with special packages.

In truth, a lot of Nigerians who graduated from other courses with good grades are still wallowing in unemployment….even ppl with first class are managing less than 100k jobs. That is the reality of Nigeria and that is why the whole system is bleeped up. And to me, the doctors are still a privileged few no matter how we construct the story.

I want Nigerians to know that Nigeria is not US and not UK. In fact those countries are in the zenith of global economies. Nigeria is in Africa and is one of the poorest countries in the world though with limitless potentials but cursed with unproductive and unpatriotic leaders.

I’m not in support of the bill but Nigerian doctors should be a little more appreciative coz they are far better than many

We are in Support of the Bill. Professionals in Nigeria are trained with less than $1000 for the entire program, where in the world is that done, 5yrs isn't a much of a time.

Elvis2kay:
In 1830 they came with ships to captured the best among us but today they are using different kinds of programme degrees to take the best brain out of AFRICA.

This is clearly a wrong message and signal! Government of the day must rise up to the occasion and proffer solutions in medical field.

Doctors in Nigeria are treated like animals, the Nigerian government should as a matter of fact ban medical tourism for government officials. The policy is not only laughable, it is a figment of imagination by its supporters!

alezzy13:


Playing the advocate here, my take is if those politicians are using their personal money, then to be honest I have no problem. The only issue is if they use govt funds

But isn’t it obvious it is the government fund they are using? If they are being paid for a call to service and not paid in millions or billions at the end. You will see that most of them will be uninterested in politics or leadership. It is because they are getting that huge amount of money is why they recruit to snatch ballots, murder their opponents and all. Let them reduce their salaries and allowances too, and see how it feels for people to want greener pastures.

4ward4:


We are in Support of the Bill. Professionals in Nigeria are trained with less than $1000 for the entire program, where in the world is that done, 5yrs isn't a much of a time.

You not we, at least be intellectual enough to personalize it.

nlfpmod:
As shared by Dr. Ibrahim Oloriegbe, APC Senator representing Kwara Central Senatorial District.



https://twitter.com/official_IYO/status/1644787413821145088?t=_DUBxsBjcKTd1l9MEx2BKQ&s=08

WHY ARE NIGERIAN SENATORS AND HOUSE OF REPS SO USELESS? PEOPLE ARE LEAVING THE COUNTRY COS OF POOR HEALTH CONDITIONS AND FACILITIES AND IN YOUR MYOPIC MIND YOU THINK HOLDING THEIR LICENSE WILL STOP THE BRAIN DRAIN?? WHY ARE OUR LEADERS SO DUMB? INSTEAD OF IMPROVING THE HEALTH SECTOR AND MAKING IT MORE ATTRACTIVE, YOU WOULD RATHER INFRINGE ON THE RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS. GOD WILL PUNISH ANY SENATOR SUPPORTING THIS BILL AND IF ANY OF HIS CHILDREN WANTS TO TRAVEL ABROAD, THEY WILL HAVE PLANE CRASH AND DIE. USELESS PEOPLE

lumens:


Dem swear for you?
You Have been posting and spamming front page threads with this nonsense for almost three days now.
What do you want to achieve?

The guy is a first class 🤡 clown

Onefornaija7:


Lagos

Have you used jiji before?

Yes bro...and most of My sales is from far away Lagos and it neighboring state.

I totally support the recommendation by the senator.

Those who study in private universities (who are unsubsidized presumably) are free to japa.

However those in public institution with subsidized training must repay, via at least 5-10yrs work, before japaing

Problem is Medical doctors in Nigeria expect to be earn what thier counterparts abroad, which is not realistic.

Has it occurred to them that part of the reason thier counterparts earn so much is because of the humongous cost of thier training abroad??

Check for yourselves, the average US graduate is in debt as a result of loans taken to cover thier training, and it takes them many years to offset.