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What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by KEVIND: 10:18am On Apr 11, 2023
"The Constitution says a candidate should be a member of a political party and be sponsored by that political party. It does not state the timeframe for joining the party. The Electoral Act requires parties to submit their membership register 30 days before primaries.

The Act doesn’t bar admission of new members after submission of the register to the Commission."
@InibeheEffiong

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Odin13: 10:26am On Apr 11, 2023
Apc wan gaslight the public .. and then use media noise to nail it in

They failed ..

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Femmyfamous4u(m): 10:28am On Apr 11, 2023
KEVIND:
"The Constitution says a candidate should be a member of a political party and be sponsored by that political party. It does not state the timeframe for joining the party. The Electoral Act requires parties to submit their membership register 30 days before primaries.

The Act doesn’t bar admission of new members after submission of the register to the Commission."
@InibeheEffiong

See contradiction. as at the time LP submitted members' list, Obi was not yet a member.

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Iamgrey5(m): 10:31am On Apr 11, 2023
KEVIND:
"The Constitution says a candidate should be a member of a political party and be sponsored by that political party. It does not state the timeframe for joining the party. The Electoral Act requires parties to submit their membership register 30 days before primaries.

The Act doesn’t bar admission of new members after submission of the register to the Commission."
@InibeheEffiong
how can the lawyer contradict himself in the same sentence.

Was obi a member of Labor party before the primaries?

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by JJfrank22(m): 10:40am On Apr 11, 2023
Political analyst, we are waiting for you guys to analyze this before PEPT do theirs.

Let me have fun while expecting the Tribunal judgement grin grin grin
Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Devil1Messenger: 10:48am On Apr 11, 2023
Iamgrey5:
how can the lawyer contradict himself in the same sentence.

Was obi a member of Labor party before the primaries?
Yes
He joined may 24th
Primaries was held may 30th

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Tntsi: 10:59am On Apr 11, 2023
That petition by the apc is DOA

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by izombie(m): 11:06am On Apr 11, 2023
Femmyfamous4u:


See contradiction. as at the time LP submitted members' list, Obi was not yet a member.
Read and understand. The act requires parties to submit list of memebers 30 days before primaries. But the act also does not stop new members from joining any party even after submitting the list of members. Capiche?

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by izombie(m): 11:07am On Apr 11, 2023
Iamgrey5:
how can the lawyer contradict himself in the same sentence.

Was obi a member of Labor party before the primaries?
yes he was a member.

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Iamgrey5(m): 11:09am On Apr 11, 2023
Devil1Messenger:

Yes
He joined may 24th
Primaries was held may 30th
Did you miss the 30days notice?

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Devil1Messenger: 11:11am On Apr 11, 2023
Iamgrey5:
Did you miss the 30days notice?
Its not mandatory
Court already ruled on that.
A fresh list was later submited before the primaries

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Iamgrey5(m): 11:11am On Apr 11, 2023
izombie:
Read and understand. The act requires parties to submit list of memebers 30 days before primaries. But the act also does not stop new members from joining any party even after submitting the list of members. Capiche?
So you just add new laws to suit you.

Where were they asked to submit members 30 days before the primaries then, if I can just join an hour before the election and participate?

So that inec can keep their worthless record.
Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Iamgrey5(m): 11:13am On Apr 11, 2023
Devil1Messenger:

Its not mandatory
Court already ruled on that.
A fresh list was later submited before the primaries
Why will the law State 30days before then?

You just make laws up as they suit you.

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by fergie001: 11:15am On Apr 11, 2023
Iamgrey5:
Why will the law State 30days before then?

You just make laws up as they suit you.
No Court in Nigeria will look at the merits of the case.

APC and indeed no other Party has the locus standi to challenge Obi's membership of the LP.

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Iamgrey5(m): 11:17am On Apr 11, 2023
fergie001:

No Court in Nigeria will look at the merits of the case.

APC and indeed no other Party has the locus standi to challenge Obi's membership of the LP.
But Apm or whatever are challenging Tinubu's and Shetimma ticket?
Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by FreeStuffsNG: 11:18am On Apr 11, 2023
Odin13:
Apc wan gaslight the public .. and then use media noise to nail it in

They failed ..
That guy is playing with your brain. He is not particularly regarded as brilliant as I recall his sentencing to prison.
Submission of register to INEC 30 days is to authenticate party membership, if you are not in that register then you are not a member of that party. If you are not a member of a party you can not be validly nominated to contest on the banner of that party.
These are the kind of unintelligent claims he makes in court to the embarrassment of himself and the court. smh

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by seanfer(m): 11:18am On Apr 11, 2023
izombie:
Read and understand. The act requires parties to submit list of memebers 30 days before primaries. But the act also does not stop new members from joining any party even after submitting the list of members. Capiche?

Can a party sponsor a candidate that his name is not on the register submitted to Inec?

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by fergie001: 11:18am On Apr 11, 2023
Iamgrey5:
But Apm or whatever are challenging Tinubu's and Shetimma ticket?
Ticket is different from membership of a Political Party.

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by fergie001: 11:20am On Apr 11, 2023
seanfer:


Can a party sponsor a candidate that his name is not on the register submitted to Inec?
See, the SC has ruled on this many times even before the EA 2022.

No person has the locus standi to challenge the membership of another who belongs to another Political Party. Again, this is a pre-election matter, the PEPT has no business with it.

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Iamgrey5(m): 11:22am On Apr 11, 2023
fergie001:

Ticket is different from membership of a Political Party.
ok let's wait for the Court
Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Odin13: 11:22am On Apr 11, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
That guy is playing with your brain. He is not particularly regarded as brilliant as I recall his sentencing to prison.
Submission of register to INEC 30 days is to authenticate party membership, if you are not in that register then you are not a member of that party. If you are not a member of a party you can not be validly nominated to contest on the banner of that party.
These are the kind of unintelligent claims he makes in court to the embarrassment of himself and the court. smh

Naaa
Is a party affair … to sue Obi for those irregularities.

Will respond better ..

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by fergie001: 11:25am On Apr 11, 2023
Iamgrey5:
ok let's wait for the Court
I very well explained same here.

https://www.nairaland.com/7648630/wole-olanipekun-technicality-tribunal-preelection#122440270

It won't be different tbh. You can quote me.....

The live matter will be tackled in Court but like I said, of all Obi's cases: I only see one that as the main ISSUE, others will likely not stand.

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by signature2012(m): 11:29am On Apr 11, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
That guy is playing with your brain. He is not particularly regarded as brilliant as I recall his sentencing to prison.
Submission of register to INEC 30 days is to authenticate party membership, if you are not in that register then you are not a member of that party. If you are not a member of a party you can not be validly nominated to contest on the banner of that party.
These are the kind of unintelligent claims he makes in court to the embarrassment of himself and the court. smh
Stop behaving like Adamu Garba.
That petition will not stand and does not hold water.

There was a court ruling already about it.
It is a pre-election issue.
Obi won flawlessly.

Tell your Principal to respond to the drug case.
Also tell him to stop using that Baba eleran Apata to from LP.

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by press9jatv: 11:29am On Apr 11, 2023
KEVIND:
"The Constitution says a candidate should be a member of a political party and be sponsored by that political party. It does not state the timeframe for joining the party. The Electoral Act requires parties to submit their membership register 30 days before primaries.

The Act doesn’t bar admission of new members after submission of the register to the Commission."
@InibeheEffiong
it’s preelection matter and the tribunal and Supreme Court of justice will never entertain it. APC technicality will be dismissed for lacking merit

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by nonhuman(m): 11:31am On Apr 11, 2023
Femmyfamous4u:


See contradiction. as at the time LP submitted members' list, Obi was not yet a member.
are there not people who became a memver of LP after Obi

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by feeloscar(m): 11:34am On Apr 11, 2023
fergie001:

No Court in Nigeria will look at the merits of the case.

APC and indeed no other Party has the locus standi to challenge Obi's membership of the LP.
True, APC and any other party apart from LP challenging Obi's membership will be referred to as meddlesome interlopers.The PDP had brought a similar petition against Fr Alia, but it was thrown out.

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by fergie001: 11:35am On Apr 11, 2023
feeloscar:
True, APC and any other party apart from LP challenging Obi's membership will be referred to as meddlesome interlopers.The PDP had brought a similar petition against Fr Alia, but it was thrown out.

True

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by press9jatv: 11:36am On Apr 11, 2023
KEVIND:
"The Constitution says a candidate should be a member of a political party and be sponsored by that political party. It does not state the timeframe for joining the party. The Electoral Act requires parties to submit their membership register 30 days before primaries.

The Act doesn’t bar admission of new members after submission of the register to the Commission."
@InibeheEffiong

Well, having read the submissions of the APC in response to the LP's petition:



This is just the defendant's reply to the petition, we have not even gotten to the pre-hearing stage, let alone proper trial.



The LP now has 7 days to apply for pre-hearing or 5 days to respond to the defendant's new facts which I believe there is.

However, it is expected that the Tribunal will respond to the Objections first, during the ruling proper.



A Presidential election petition of this magnitude will naturally not dwell on technicalities.



1. That Obi was not a registered member of the LP before May 24 last year.



This is at best puerile. Does the APC have the locus standi to challenge? NO.



a. Once there is no locus standi, there is no jurisdiction. Jurisdiction is the lifeblood and existence of any case. Once there is no jurisdiction, no matter how finely delivered a case is ruled upon, it becomes null and void, ab initio.



Only a member of the LP can challenge the membership of Peter Obi. The Court can best describe the APC as meddlesome interlopers and busybodies.



b. This matter is a pre-election matter. Membership, nomination and sponsorship of any Candidate in a political party is a pre-election issue that should be filed not more than 14 days after the cause of action at the FHC.



Same suit was brought up by a political party, the APM and the Appeal Court ruled in February 2023, that they do not have the locus. The PEPT or SC will not even delve into the merits but shut it out for lack of locus standi.



2. Non-joinder of Atiku Abubakar & PDP

This again should likely not upturn anything. This is an election petitions tribunal and it is declaratory in nature.



It is an independent and individualistic appeal, at best, this is academic considering that the PDP & her Candidate are also in Court. It is urging the Court to subject to intellectual argument and satisfy intellectual prowess which cannot answer the questions in the live issues to be determined in the suit.



3. Arrangement of tables, etc.



Is this enough to throw out the petitions before we even get to the stage of hearing in the petitions? In my humble opinion, NO.



I believe all 3 Objections will be dismissed so that we can really listen to the REAL ISSUES.



What the defendant has done is not unexpected, raise up issues to dismiss the suit.

Barrister fergie001 ✍️

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by citygarden(m): 11:37am On Apr 11, 2023
It seems we have many judges on this nairaland. Let the judge of the Court decide na.
Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by press9jatv: 11:40am On Apr 11, 2023
feeloscar:
True, APC and any other party apart from LP challenging Obi's membership will be referred to as meddlesome interlopers.The PDP had brought a similar petition against Fr Alia, but it was thrown out.
yes but APC forgot that it’s preelection matter. They should go and read section 285 subsection 8 of Nigeria constitution. Wole Olanipekun technicality case will be struck out in the tribunal. APC case never hold any water joor.

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Femmyfamous4u(m): 11:41am On Apr 11, 2023
nonhuman:
are there not people who became a memver of LP after Obi

Such person cannot contest election, whoever does will lose it if contested. The law states that all political party must submit their members' list days before the primary election of the party.

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Re: What The Constitution Says On APC Response To Peter Obi Petition. by Femmyfamous4u(m): 11:43am On Apr 11, 2023
izombie:
Read and understand. The act requires parties to submit list of memebers 30 days before primaries. But the act also does not stop new members from joining any party even after submitting the list of members. Capiche?

Yes, any members can join but can not participate in an election. Only appointive position is allowed.

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