femmy2010:

Under what condition can abortion ever be justified?

coogar:

-if the baby has the potential to kill her mother
-if a rapis[i]t[/i] is responsible for the pregnancy.

femmy2010:



That sure seem cogent enough.
Can the possibility of giving birth to an SS child be a cogent one to have an abortion?

coogar:

-if the baby has the potential to kill her mother
-if a rapis[i]t[/i] is responsible for the pregnancy.

kemmeye:


i agree with the first but not the second cuz its not the babys fault and im sure the baby would not have wanted to come to the world like that and then again you never know wat the child could become in future.  

Abstract

Abortion in Nigeria is illegal and carries a heavy jail sentence--up to 14 years imprisonment--unless it is performed to save the life of the pregnant woman. Nevertheless, a large number of clandestine abortions continue to be carried out regularly, often with dire consequences for the lives and health of the women involved. This article reviews abortion legislation in Nigeria, examines court decisions on the subject, and presents the results of a survey conducted on the incidence of abortion in the country. A case is made for revising existing abortion laws. A brief look is taken at the various indications for abortion that might be adopted and a proposal is made for a new abortion policy in Nigeria in the light of the country's recently adopted population policy.

In Nigeria, abortion is illegal and carries a stiff jail sentence, up to 14 years, unless done to save the life of the pregnant woman. Abortion legislation in Nigeria and court decisions on the subject are examined. Abortion is governed by the Criminal Code in the southern states, and the Penal Code in the northern states. In "R v. Idiong and Umo," the 2 defendants had been convicted of murder on the grounds that the 1st accused had obtained the services of the 2nd accused, a native doctor, to give native medicine to bring about an abortion. The abortion resulted in the woman's death. Therefore the 1st accused was party to the crime. The West African Court of Appeal found that the 2nd accused had acted innocently believing that the medicine would relieve pain that the dead woman suffered from a retained placenta. He gave an abortifacient for expulsion of the placenta. He was found "not guilty" of murder and manslaughter. The 1st accused was found criminally responsible for causing the abortion, but was found not guilty of murder. He was guilty of manslaughter, however. In 1981, the Nigerian Society for Gynecology and Obstetrics sponsored a Termination of Pregnancy Bill in the House of Representatives. However, pressure groups lobbied against it, and the bill did not pass. In 1984, a survey was done to assess incidence of abortion. Representative samples were taken from the north and the south. The capital cities of 8 different states were covered. In 5 sample hospitals within the Lagos Metropolis in Lagos State, 125 abortions or treatments of incomplete abortions were recorded within a month. In 4 representative hospitals from Oyo State, 81 abortions or corrections of incomplete abortions were recorded within 1 month. In the northern state of Kaduna, information was very difficult to obtain. At one of the University Teaching Hospitals in Zaria, records showed there were 103 treatments of incomplete abortions during the preceding year. The usual approach to revising abortion laws has been to expand or extend the grounds for legal abortion. In some jurisdictions, courts have widened the ground by adopting the decision that life includes mental and physical health. Abortion may be possible for eugenic reasons. In February, 1988, the Nigerian government announced its adoption of a population

kemmeye:

i would hate to but i also have to remeber that that kid has a potential to be great and watever happened was for a reason. this thread is making me sad

coogar:
if the parents are poor, the answer is yes.
cos their poverty would eventually lead to the death of that child sooner than later.

coogar:

what potential can possibly come out of a child sired by an armed robber? a child you would always hate to see cos his face reminds you of his father when he violated you. . . . . .

coogar:

-if the baby has the potential to kill her mother
-if a rapis[i]t[/i] is responsible for the pregnancy.

kemmeye:

i reli get your poinmt tho it would be kinda hard but i would hate what the father did but not the child and if i cant stand it i'll just give the baby up for adoption. everyone deserves a chance. idk

coogar:

if the parents are poor, the answer is yes.
cos their poverty would eventually lead to the death of that child sooner than later.

seedord247:

Poverty is not an excuse to abortion brooo . . .

blackpanda:
In most advanced countries, including South Africa, it is the sole prerogative of the mother to choose whether or not to keep the pegnancy.
While yall can keep chatting on the reasons for condoning abortion, the sad fact is that the law can not provide for every single individual situation.
So, in my view, abortion should be left to the mother to decide. Rather, govt can create incentives to disuade pple from unnecessary abortion. E.g in SA, mothers benefit from child welfare scheme.
On the other hand, Nigeria shld also allow abortion, especially as a means of controlling our population explosion!

coogar:
give up the baby to adoption? he will grow up to be a robber in the end and he will also rap[i]e[/i] someone's daughter in the near future.
if lightning strikes twice - it might actually be your daughter! see no evil, hear no evil. abort the baby, move on and spare the rest of us the seeds of an armed bandit

ogugua88:

Thank you.

What on earth are you talking about? An armed bandit's son will not always be an armed bandit. I may not be an engineer like my father. Peter Okoye's son may not be into music. President Obama's daughters may have no interest in politics. Thanks to nature vs nurture, children have a good probability of being different from one or both of their parents. You're judging an unborn child based on a criminal parent's actions. That's highly unfair and definitely not a justifiable reason for abortion in my opinion.

ogugua88:

Thank you.

What on earth are you talking about? An armed bandit's son will not always be an armed bandit. I may not be an engineer like my father. Peter Okoye's son may not be into music. President Obama's daughters may have no interest in politics. Thanks to nature vs nurture, children have a good probability of being different from one or both of their parents. You're judging an unborn child based on a criminal parent's actions. That's highly unfair and definitely not a justifiable reason for abortion in my opinion.

femmy2010:

Frankly,i would not advice my fathom younger sister to keep such a pregnancy.
Armed bandit,hell No.

ednut1:

It can be justified wen a father yansh his own daugther . In china there are 30m abortions nd 20m births wat a world

kemmeye:
thanks thats what ive been trying to say but was kinda skeptical  in a way

femmy2010:
Frankly,i would not advice my fathom younger sister to keep such a pregnancy.Armed bandit,hell No.