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Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Nobody: 9:49am On Sep 24, 2011
For some, the horror of the Christian doctrine of hell—that it is a place of eternal, conscious torment where God's enemies are punished—has led them not just to avert their eyes and minds, but to deny it entirely. "Surely," they say, "hell is a fictional construct used to oppress people with fear; a God of love would never allow such a place to really exist." There's an emotional power to this argument, to be sure. No one, certainly no Christian, likes the idea of hell.

At the same time, this doctrine isn't just drapery on the side of the Christian worldview, something with no relevance to the structure of the faith itself. Nor is the doctrine of hell an embarrassing, unnecessary, primitive wart that we believe just because we're told we have to.

On the contrary, the doctrine and reality of hell actually throws the glory of the gospel into sharp relief for us. It helps us to understand just how great God really is, how sinfully wretched we really are, and how unutterably amazing it is that he would show us grace at all. Moreover, the reality of hell—if we don't push it out of our minds—will focus us, above all, on the task of proclaiming the gospel to those who are in danger of spending eternity there.

With that in mind, here are five biblical statements about hell which, taken as a whole, demonstrate why hell is integral to the gospel.

WHY HELL is INTEGRAL to THE GOSPEL

1. Scripture teaches that there is a real place called hell. I won't belabor this point. Others have made this case with crystal clarity. Suffice it to say that medieval bishops didn't invent the doctrine of hell as a way to scare the serfs; they got it from the apostles. And the apostles didn't invent it to scare the pagans; they got it from Jesus, At the most basic level, therefore, if we claim to be Christians and to believe that the Bible is the word of God, we have to recognize that the Bible teaches the reality of hell. But there's more.

2. Hell shows us how heinous our sin really is. Have you ever heard someone make the argument that no human sin could possibly deserve eternal torment in hell? It's an interesting argument, one that reveals a lot about the human heart. Why is it that when people think about hell, they always conclude that God must be at fault and not themselves? You can see how the doctrine reveals our hearts: when we consider our own sin, our first inclination is always to minimize it, to protest that it's not that bad and that God is wrong to say it deserves punishment.

The reality of hell stands as a massive refutation of that self-justification. Non-Christians will always see the horrors of hell as an indictment of God, but as Christians who know God to be perfectly just and righteous, we must understand that the horrors of hell are actually an indictment of us. We may want to minimize our sin, or excuse it, or try to argue our consciences down. But the fact that God has declared that we deserve eternal torment for those sins should remind us that they are not small at all. They are enormously evil.

3. Hell shows us how immovably and unimpeachably just God really is. People have been tempted throughout history to think of God as a corrupt judge, one who sets aside the demands of justice simply because he likes the defendant. "We are all God's children," the argument goes. "How could God hand down such a horrible sentence on some of his children?" The answer to that question is simple: God is not a corrupt judge. He is an absolutely just and righteous one.

Over and over the Bible makes this point. When God reveals himself to Moses, he declares himself to be compassionate and loving, but he also says, "Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished." The Psalms declare that "Righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne." What an amazing statement! If God is to continue being God, he cannot simply set justice aside and sweep sin under the rug. He must deal with it—decisively and with exacting justice. When God finally judges, not one sin will receive more punishment than it deserves,

The Bible tells us that on that day, when God sentences his enemies to hell, the whole universe will recognize and acknowledge that what he has decided is unimpeachably just and right. Isaiah 5 makes this point with bracing clarity: "Therefore Sheol has enlarged its appetite and opens its mouth without measure." It's a grotesque image, the grave widening its mouth to swallow the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And yet by this means, Isaiah declares, "The Lord of Hosts is exalted in justice, and the Holy God shows himself holy in righteousness." Similarly, Romans 9:22 tells us that by the torments of hell, God will "show his wrath and make his power known," so that he might "make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy."

We may not understand it fully now, but one day hell itself will declare God's glory. It will—even in its horror—testify together with the psalmist, "Righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne."

4. Hell shows us how horrific the cross really was, and how great God's grace really is. Romans 3 tells us that God put forth Jesus as a sacrifice of atonement "to demonstrate his justice." He did this "because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished."

Why did Jesus have to die on the cross? It was because that was the only way God could righteously not send every one of us to hell. Jesus had to take what was due to us, and that means he had to endure the equivalent of hell as he hung on the cross. That doesn't mean that Jesus actually went to hell. But it does mean that the nails and the thorns were only the beginning of Jesus' suffering. The true height of his suffering came when God poured out his wrath on Jesus. When the darkness fell, that wasn't just God covering the suffering of his Son, as some have said. That was the darkness of the curse, of God's wrath. It was the darkness of hell, and in that moment Jesus was enduring its full fury—the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.

When you understand the cross in that light, you begin to understand better just how magnificent God's grace to you is, if you are a Christian. The mission of redemption that Jesus undertook involved a commitment to endure God's wrath in your place, to take the hell that you deserve. What an amazing display of love and mercy that is! Yet you will only see and understand this display of love clearly when you understand, accept, and shudder at the horror of hell.

5. Hell focuses our minds on the task of proclaiming the gospel. If hell is real, and if people are truly in danger of spending eternity there, then there is no more urgent and important task than doing precisely what Jesus told his apostles to do before he ascended to heaven—proclaim to the world the good news that forgiveness of sins is offered through Jesus Christ!

I think John Piper got it exactly right in a Gospel Coalition interview: "It's very hard to give up on the gospel if you believe there is hell, that after this life, there is an endless suffering for those who did not believe in the gospel." There are all kinds of good things that Christians can do—and in fact should do! But if hell is real, it is worth keeping in mind—no, it is imperative that we keep in mind—that the one thing that Christians can do that no one else in the world is ever going to do is to tell people how they can be forgiven of their sin, how they can avoid spending an eternity in hell.

CONCLUSION

There is no doubt that the doctrine of hell is horrible. The doctrine is horrible because the reality is horrible. But that's not a reason to avert our eyes and ignore it, much less to reject it. There are those who think that, by rejecting or at least ignoring the doctrine in their preaching, they are making God more glorious and more loving. Far from it! What they are really doing is unwittingly stealing glory from the Savior Jesus Christ, as if what he saved us from was… well, not so bad after all. In fact, the horrific nature of what we have been saved from only intensifies the glory of what we have been saved to. Not only so, but as we see ever more clearly the horror of hell, we look with ever more love, ever more gratitude, and ever greater worship to the One who endured that hell for us and saved us.


http://www.9marks.org/ejournal/why-hell-integral-gospel
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Jenwitemi(m): 3:01pm On Sep 24, 2011
This is why hell is integral to the gospel of frosbel.
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Pygru: 4:38pm On Jul 13, 2013
^^ shocked shocked shocked
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Nobody: 7:20pm On Jul 13, 2013
Epistle of fosbel to his gullible brothers
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by bizmahn: 7:40pm On Jul 13, 2013
What a masterpiece constructed when he used to be.Serves as a warning to all of us.Whoever allows the last days wind of false doctrine to blow him/her out of the true gospel presented above has made a costly mistake.May God please restore all backsliders.Amen.

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Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Pygru: 7:44pm On Jul 13, 2013
bizmahn: What a masterpiece contructed when he used to be.Serves as a warning to all of us.Whoever allows the last days wind of false doctrine to blow him/her out of the true gospel presented above has made a costly mistake.May God please restore all backsliders.Amen.
Amen!
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Pygru: 7:47pm On Jul 13, 2013
For some, the horror of the Christian doctrine of hell—that it is a place of eternal, conscious torment where God's enemies are punished—has led them not just to avert their eyes and minds, but to deny it entirely. "Surely," they say, "hell is afictional construct used to oppress peoplewith fear; a God of love would never allow such a place to really exist." There's an emotional power to this argument, to be sure. No one, certainly no Christian, likes the idea of hel

On the contrary, the doctrine and reality of hell actually throws the glory of the gospel into sharp relief for us. It helps us to understand just how great God really is, how sinfully wretched we really are, and how unutterably amazing it is that hewould show us grace at all. Moreover, the reality of hell—if we don't push it out of our minds—will focus us, above all, on the task of proclaiming the gospel to those who are in danger of spending eternity there.

1. Scripture teaches that there is a real place called hell. I won't belabor this point. Others have made this case with crystal clarity. Suffice it to say that medieval bishops didn't invent the doctrine of hell as a way to scare the serfs; they got it from the apostles. And the apostles didn't invent it to scare the pagans; they got it from Jesus, At the most basic level, therefore, if we claim to be Christians and to believe that the Bible is the word of God, we have to recognize that the Bible teaches the reality of hell. But there's more.
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by alexleo(m): 8:02pm On Jul 13, 2013
frosbel: For some, the horror of the Christian doctrine of hell—that it is a place of eternal, conscious torment where God's enemies are punished—has led them not just to avert their eyes and minds, but to deny it entirely. "Surely," they say, "hell is a fictional construct used to oppress people with fear; a God of love would never allow such a place to really exist." There's an emotional power to this argument, to be sure. No one, certainly no Christian, likes the idea of hell.

At the same time, this doctrine isn't just drapery on the side of the Christian worldview, something with no relevance to the structure of the faith itself. Nor is the doctrine of hell an embarrassing, unnecessary, primitive wart that we believe just because we're told we have to.

On the contrary, the doctrine and reality of hell actually throws the glory of the gospel into sharp relief for us. It helps us to understand just how great God really is, how sinfully wretched we really are, and how unutterably amazing it is that he would show us grace at all. Moreover, the reality of hell—if we don't push it out of our minds—will focus us, above all, on the task of proclaiming the gospel to those who are in danger of spending eternity there.

With that in mind, here are five biblical statements about hell which, taken as a whole, demonstrate why hell is integral to the gospel.

WHY HELL is INTEGRAL to THE GOSPEL

1. Scripture teaches that there is a real place called hell. I won't belabor this point. Others have made this case with crystal clarity. Suffice it to say that medieval bishops didn't invent the doctrine of hell as a way to scare the serfs; they got it from the apostles. And the apostles didn't invent it to scare the pagans; they got it from Jesus, At the most basic level, therefore, if we claim to be Christians and to believe that the Bible is the word of God, we have to recognize that the Bible teaches the reality of hell. But there's more.

2. Hell shows us how heinous our sin really is. Have you ever heard someone make the argument that no human sin could possibly deserve eternal torment in hell? It's an interesting argument, one that reveals a lot about the human heart. Why is it that when people think about hell, they always conclude that God must be at fault and not themselves? You can see how the doctrine reveals our hearts: when we consider our own sin, our first inclination is always to minimize it, to protest that it's not that bad and that God is wrong to say it deserves punishment.

The reality of hell stands as a massive refutation of that self-justification. Non-Christians will always see the horrors of hell as an indictment of God, but as Christians who know God to be perfectly just and righteous, we must understand that the horrors of hell are actually an indictment of us. We may want to minimize our sin, or excuse it, or try to argue our consciences down. But the fact that God has declared that we deserve eternal torment for those sins should remind us that they are not small at all. They are enormously evil.

3. Hell shows us how immovably and unimpeachably just God really is. People have been tempted throughout history to think of God as a corrupt judge, one who sets aside the demands of justice simply because he likes the defendant. "We are all God's children," the argument goes. "How could God hand down such a horrible sentence on some of his children?" The answer to that question is simple: God is not a corrupt judge. He is an absolutely just and righteous one.

Over and over the Bible makes this point. When God reveals himself to Moses, he declares himself to be compassionate and loving, but he also says, "Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished." The Psalms declare that "Righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne." What an amazing statement! If God is to continue being God, he cannot simply set justice aside and sweep sin under the rug. He must deal with it—decisively and with exacting justice. When God finally judges, not one sin will receive more punishment than it deserves,

The Bible tells us that on that day, when God sentences his enemies to hell, the whole universe will recognize and acknowledge that what he has decided is unimpeachably just and right. Isaiah 5 makes this point with bracing clarity: "Therefore Sheol has enlarged its appetite and opens its mouth without measure." It's a grotesque image, the grave widening its mouth to swallow the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And yet by this means, Isaiah declares, "The Lord of Hosts is exalted in justice, and the Holy God shows himself holy in righteousness." Similarly, Romans 9:22 tells us that by the torments of hell, God will "show his wrath and make his power known," so that he might "make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy."

We may not understand it fully now, but one day hell itself will declare God's glory. It will—even in its horror—testify together with the psalmist, "Righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne."

4. Hell shows us how horrific the cross really was, and how great God's grace really is. Romans 3 tells us that God put forth Jesus as a sacrifice of atonement "to demonstrate his justice." He did this "because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished."

Why did Jesus have to die on the cross? It was because that was the only way God could righteously not send every one of us to hell. Jesus had to take what was due to us, and that means he had to endure the equivalent of hell as he hung on the cross. That doesn't mean that Jesus actually went to hell. But it does mean that the nails and the thorns were only the beginning of Jesus' suffering. The true height of his suffering came when God poured out his wrath on Jesus. When the darkness fell, that wasn't just God covering the suffering of his Son, as some have said. That was the darkness of the curse, of God's wrath. It was the darkness of hell, and in that moment Jesus was enduring its full fury—the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.

When you understand the cross in that light, you begin to understand better just how magnificent God's grace to you is, if you are a Christian. The mission of redemption that Jesus undertook involved a commitment to endure God's wrath in your place, to take the hell that you deserve. What an amazing display of love and mercy that is! Yet you will only see and understand this display of love clearly when you understand, accept, and shudder at the horror of hell.

5. Hell focuses our minds on the task of proclaiming the gospel. If hell is real, and if people are truly in danger of spending eternity there, then there is no more urgent and important task than doing precisely what Jesus told his apostles to do before he ascended to heaven—proclaim to the world the good news that forgiveness of sins is offered through Jesus Christ!

I think John Piper got it exactly right in a Gospel Coalition interview: "It's very hard to give up on the gospel if you believe there is hell, that after this life, there is an endless suffering for those who did not believe in the gospel." There are all kinds of good things that Christians can do—and in fact should do! But if hell is real, it is worth keeping in mind—no, it is imperative that we keep in mind—that the one thing that Christians can do that no one else in the world is ever going to do is to tell people how they can be forgiven of their sin, how they can avoid spending an eternity in hell.

CONCLUSION

There is no doubt that the doctrine of hell is horrible. The doctrine is horrible because the reality is horrible. But that's not a reason to avert our eyes and ignore it, much less to reject it. There are those who think that, by rejecting or at least ignoring the doctrine in their preaching, they are making God more glorious and more loving. Far from it! What they are really doing is unwittingly stealing glory from the Savior Jesus Christ, as if what he saved us from was… well, not so bad after all. In fact, the horrific nature of what we have been saved from only intensifies the glory of what we have been saved to. Not only so, but as we see ever more clearly the horror of hell, we look with ever more love, ever more gratitude, and ever greater worship to the One who endured that hell for us and saved us.


http://www.9marks.org/ejournal/why-hell-integral-gospel

You mean Frosbel wrote this beautiful, touching and reviving piece in 2011 and by 2013 he is singing a strange tune on this very issue Oh, God pls help us in this heavenly journey. My heart bleeds.

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Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Pygru: 8:10pm On Jul 13, 2013
alexleo:

You mean Frosbel wrote this beautiful, touching and reviving piece in 2011 and by 2013 he is singing a strange tune on this very issue Oh, God pls help us in this heavenly journey. My heart bleeds.
so unfortunate embarassed
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by alexleo(m): 8:21pm On Jul 13, 2013
Pygru:
Amen!

Honestly, I ve never seen the message of hell so wonderfully presented. So reviving and so thought provoking. Just going through this piece alone, i feel revived. Am already saving the piece for my study from time to time. Now this is why i said we need to remember ourselves in prayer while pointing out our faults. Satan is interested in pulling us down but we must keep each other in prayer.
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by bizmahn: 8:27pm On Jul 13, 2013
alexleo:

You mean Frosbel wrote this beautiful, touching and reviving piece in 2011 and by 2013 he is singing a strange tune on this very issue Oh, God pls help us in this heavenly journey. My heart bleeds.

Was deeply moved as if to tears.Satan is desperately wicked.The way is so narrow & once you taste the "freedom" the broadway allows,to go back is only by the grace of God.God please have mercy.For the sake of Jesus shed blood have mercy.
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Pygru: 8:33pm On Jul 13, 2013
bizmahn:

Was deeply moved as if to tears.Satan is desperately wicked.The way is so narrow & once you taste the "freedom" the broadway allows,to go back is only by the grace of God.God please have mercy.For the sake of Jesus shed blood have mercy.
@ bolded, true...
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by bizmahn: 8:44pm On Jul 13, 2013
alexleo:

Honestly, I ve never seen the message of hell so wonderfully presented. So reviving and so thought provoking. Just going through this piece alone, i feel revived.
No "sincere" creature of God can easily read that message & remain the same.It can easily populate the kingdom of God with the repentant far above what most new generation churches can muster.
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by alexleo(m): 8:53pm On Jul 13, 2013
bizmahn:

Was deeply moved as if to tears.Satan is desperately wicked.The way is so narrow & once you taste the "freedom" the broadway allows,to go back is only by the grace of God.God please have mercy.For the sake of Jesus shed blood have mercy.

@bolded, AMEN and AMEN.
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Nobody: 8:57pm On Jul 13, 2013
Hmm he will come and denounce it as he once did on a very beautiful presented reason for the trinity. It seems nairaland has a mother load of information, one needs to take time to search.
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by alexleo(m): 9:00pm On Jul 13, 2013
bizmahn:
No "sincere" creature of God can easily read that message & remain the same.It can easily populate the kingdom of God with the repentant far above what most new generation churches can muster.

You are right my brother. I ve already saved the piece. Its not me alone that should read this. Right now am thinking of printing it out in copies to share to people if possible. So reviving.
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by bizmahn: 9:40pm On Jul 13, 2013
alexleo:

You are right my brother. I ve already saved the piece. Its not me alone that should read this. Right now am thinking of printing it out in copies to share to people if possible. So reviving.

It begins to come clear now.Satan saw an apostle Paul kind of threat to his kingdom & gathered with his demons to overthrow it.Since they couldn't succeed to outrightly throw it into full time outright wickedness,they decided to just shift it hard out of balance.How I pray the Most High by His warrior angels will enact an uncommon rescue operation.A gem is under threat.It is still possible!.There's nothing God cannot do!
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by alexleo(m): 10:17pm On Jul 13, 2013
bizmahn:

It begins to come clear now.Satan saw an apostle Paul kind of threat to his kingdom & gathered with his demons to overthrow it.Since they couldn't succeed to outrightly throw it into full time outright wickedness,they decided to just shift it hard out of balance.How I pray the Most High by His warrior angels will enact an uncommon rescue operation.A gem is under threat.It is still possible!.There's nothing God cannot do!

Honestly, we can see that this guy is a big sharp instrument prepared by God but the devil seems to be altering his God-sent mission. if i tell you that my heart has not been revived by this message, then am lying. We must pray God to intervene in his life and destroy all the powers of darkness who might be working day and night towards distracting him from what God wants him to preach. I still maintain that in all my life so far, this is the best teaching i ve heard about hell. Now, my love for frosbel has increased and my desire to be praying for him has increased too. have you seen the one he wrote about the coming of Jesus and the signs of the time? Also in 2011. This guy is a big instrument brother. WE MUST PRAY FOR HIM SERIOUSLY WITH LOVE. Its a passionate plea. lets take it as a burden.
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by true2god: 8:10am On Jul 14, 2013
I have not seen Frosbel's latest contribtion to this (his) thread. Could it be dat that Frosbel made this post in error?

This guy has really gone around by 360 degree. May God help him.
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by superior1: 9:31am On Jul 14, 2013
I don't understand the issue here,has Frosbel renounced what he pasted up there?. Can somebody take time to explain what the disagreements are?

Frosbel, if you have any new understanding of hell, do take time to share it here or let's have the link
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by maximunimpact(m): 10:23am On Jul 14, 2013
There is a saying that when a wrong idea make anniversary, it becomes a tradition. The believe in physical eternal torment in hell is a wrong teaching that have been around for a long time. Hence it has become a church tradition.

the bible condemned the jews who practice a tradition that relates to burning of criminals:
Jere 7:31 reads: ''they(apostate jews) have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and daughters in the fire, a thing that I had no commanded and that had not come up into my heart''.

Now think about this.......the jews thaught that by burning these criminals, they are doing justice and punishing them, it will seem honest and justified, but God condemned them for doing that act.

''A thing that God have not commanded them to do, neither have it come up into His(God's) heart! If God have no such thaught in his heart to burn people alife, then from where did this lies came from? Ofcos it came from the chief slanderer of God, satan the adversary!

The scriptures is clear on punishment and reward for sin and godliness.....for the wages of sin is death.....but the gift of God is eternal life.........if people live and burn in hell forever, that means they have to live forever.........life is a gift and not punishment. Death is anihiliation, complete extermination.

For those that love the truth, u can follow this link:

www.nairaland.com/1350035/blackmailing-god-hellfire-another-lie
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Nobody: 10:35am On Jul 14, 2013
maximunimpact: There is a saying that when a wrong idea make anniversary, it becomes a tradition. The believe in physical eternal torment in hell is a wrong teaching that have been around for a long time. Hence it has become a church tradition.

the bible condemned the jews who practice a tradition that relates to burning of criminals:
Jere 7:31 reads: ''they(apostate jews) have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and daughters in the fire, a thing that I had no commanded and that had not come up into my heart''.

Now think about this.......the jews thaught that by burning these criminals, they are doing justice and punishing them, it will seem honest and justified, but God condemned them for doing that act.

''A thing that God have not commanded them to do, neither have it come up into His(God's) heart! If God have no such thaught in his heart to burn people alife, then from where did this lies came from? Ofcos it came from the chief slanderer of God, satan the adversary!

The scriptures is clear on punishment and reward for sin and godliness.....for the wages of sin is death.....but the gift of God is eternal life.........if people live and burn in hell forever, that means they have to live forever.........life is a gift and not punishment. Death is anihiliation, complete extermination.

For those that love the truth, u can follow this link:

www.nairaland.com/1350035/blackmailing-god-hellfire-another-lie

Thanks Brother, this is a position I held a few years ago when I was still in deeperlife church, at this time I was already beginning to question a number of things.

Thank God , he has delivered me from this religious nonsense which by the way is a view held by 90% of Christendom, and we all know that in God's eyes the majority position is not exactly the one that carries the day.

The wages of SIN is death and the bible emphatically reinforces this truth from Genesis to Revelation.

Thanks again.
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by maximunimpact(m): 11:05am On Jul 14, 2013
frosbel:

Thanks Brother, this is a position I held a few years ago when I was still in deeperlife church, at this time I was already beginning to question a number of things.

Thank God , he has delivered me from this religious nonsense which by the way is a view held by 90% of Christendom, and we all know that in God's eyes the majority position is not exactly the one that carries the day.

The wages of SIN is death and the bible emphatically reinforces this truth from Genesis to Revelation.

Thanks again.

U are welcome brother, we live in an era where truth is been determined by the majority. Its not always like dat. Follow the narrow part, for broad is d way dat lead off to destruction!
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by true2god: 12:31pm On Jul 14, 2013
maximunimpact:

U are welcome brother, we live in an era where truth is been determined by the majority. Its not always like dat. Follow the narrow part, for broad is d way dat lead off to destruction!
Did christ mentioned everlasting punishment in any of his teachings while on earth or not? It seems u knw more than Jesus or u have received a new revelation.

@ Frosbel this is wen u r still taken a bit serios. The era is gone.
www.nairaland.com/763145/day-hour-knoweth-no-man
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by superior1: 1:06pm On Jul 14, 2013
maximunimpact: There is a saying that when a wrong idea make anniversary, it becomes a tradition. The believe in physical eternal torment in hell is a wrong teaching that have been around for a long time. Hence it has become a church tradition.

the bible condemned the jews who practice a tradition that relates to burning of criminals:
Jere 7:31 reads: ''they(apostate jews) have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and daughters in the fire, a thing that I had no commanded and that had not come up into my heart''.

Now think about this.......the jews thaught that by burning these criminals, they are doing justice and punishing them, it will seem honest and justified, but God condemned them for doing that act.

''A thing that God have not commanded them to do, neither have it come up into His(God's) heart! If God have no such thaught in his heart to burn people alife, then from where did this lies came from? Ofcos it came from the chief slanderer of God, satan the adversary!

The scriptures is clear on punishment and reward for sin and godliness.....for the wages of sin is death.....but the gift of God is eternal life.........if people live and burn in hell forever, that means they have to live forever.........life is a gift and not punishment. Death is anihiliation, complete extermination.

For those that love the truth, u can follow this link:

www.nairaland.com/1350035/blackmailing-god-hellfire-another-lie
In summary, what you are saying is there is no hell, right?
And that human spirit is just like the human body, they are both immortal, right?
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Nobody: 4:48pm On Jul 14, 2013
true2god: Did christ mentioned everlasting punishment in any of his teachings while on earth or not? It seems u knw more than Jesus or u have received a new revelation.

@ Frosbel this is wen u r still taken a bit serios. The era is gone.
www.nairaland.com/763145/day-hour-knoweth-no-man

The era of following men is over , yes you are right.
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by handsomebolanle: 7:04pm On Jul 14, 2013
frosbel: For some, the horror of the Christian doctrine of hell—that it is a place of eternal, conscious torment where God's enemies are punished—has led them not just to avert their eyes and minds, but to deny it entirely. "Surely," they say, "hell is a fictional construct used to oppress people with fear; a God of love would never allow such a place to really exist." There's an emotional power to this argument, to be sure. No one, certainly no Christian, likes the idea of hell.

At the same time, this doctrine isn't just drapery on the side of the Christian worldview, something with no relevance to the structure of the faith itself. Nor is the doctrine of hell an embarrassing, unnecessary, primitive wart that we believe just because we're told we have to.

On the contrary, the doctrine and reality of hell actually throws the glory of the gospel into sharp relief for us. It helps us to understand just how great God really is, how sinfully wretched we really are, and how unutterably amazing it is that he would show us grace at all. Moreover, the reality of hell—if we don't push it out of our minds—will focus us, above all, on the task of proclaiming the gospel to those who are in danger of spending eternity there.

With that in mind, here are five biblical statements about hell which, taken as a whole, demonstrate why hell is integral to the gospel.

WHY HELL is INTEGRAL to THE GOSPEL

1. Scripture teaches that there is a real place called hell. I won't belabor this point. Others have made this case with crystal clarity. Suffice it to say that medieval bishops didn't invent the doctrine of hell as a way to scare the serfs; they got it from the apostles. And the apostles didn't invent it to scare the pagans; they got it from Jesus, At the most basic level, therefore, if we claim to be Christians and to believe that the Bible is the word of God, we have to recognize that the Bible teaches the reality of hell. But there's more.

2. Hell shows us how heinous our sin really is. Have you ever heard someone make the argument that no human sin could possibly deserve eternal torment in hell? It's an interesting argument, one that reveals a lot about the human heart. Why is it that when people think about hell, they always conclude that God must be at fault and not themselves? You can see how the doctrine reveals our hearts: when we consider our own sin, our first inclination is always to minimize it, to protest that it's not that bad and that God is wrong to say it deserves punishment.

The reality of hell stands as a massive refutation of that self-justification. Non-Christians will always see the horrors of hell as an indictment of God, but as Christians who know God to be perfectly just and righteous, we must understand that the horrors of hell are actually an indictment of us. We may want to minimize our sin, or excuse it, or try to argue our consciences down. But the fact that God has declared that we deserve eternal torment for those sins should remind us that they are not small at all. They are enormously evil.

3. Hell shows us how immovably and unimpeachably just God really is. People have been tempted throughout history to think of God as a corrupt judge, one who sets aside the demands of justice simply because he likes the defendant. "We are all God's children," the argument goes. "How could God hand down such a horrible sentence on some of his children?" The answer to that question is simple: God is not a corrupt judge. He is an absolutely just and righteous one.

Over and over the Bible makes this point. When God reveals himself to Moses, he declares himself to be compassionate and loving, but he also says, "Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished." The Psalms declare that "Righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne." What an amazing statement! If God is to continue being God, he cannot simply set justice aside and sweep sin under the rug. He must deal with it—decisively and with exacting justice. When God finally judges, not one sin will receive more punishment than it deserves,

The Bible tells us that on that day, when God sentences his enemies to hell, the whole universe will recognize and acknowledge that what he has decided is unimpeachably just and right. Isaiah 5 makes this point with bracing clarity: "Therefore Sheol has enlarged its appetite and opens its mouth without measure." It's a grotesque image, the grave widening its mouth to swallow the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And yet by this means, Isaiah declares, "The Lord of Hosts is exalted in justice, and the Holy God shows himself holy in righteousness." Similarly, Romans 9:22 tells us that by the torments of hell, God will "show his wrath and make his power known," so that he might "make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy."

We may not understand it fully now, but one day hell itself will declare God's glory. It will—even in its horror—testify together with the psalmist, "Righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne."

4. Hell shows us how horrific the cross really was, and how great God's grace really is. Romans 3 tells us that God put forth Jesus as a sacrifice of atonement "to demonstrate his justice." He did this "because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished."

Why did Jesus have to die on the cross? It was because that was the only way God could righteously not send every one of us to hell. Jesus had to take what was due to us, and that means he had to endure the equivalent of hell as he hung on the cross. That doesn't mean that Jesus actually went to hell. But it does mean that the nails and the thorns were only the beginning of Jesus' suffering. The true height of his suffering came when God poured out his wrath on Jesus. When the darkness fell, that wasn't just God covering the suffering of his Son, as some have said. That was the darkness of the curse, of God's wrath. It was the darkness of hell, and in that moment Jesus was enduring its full fury—the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.

When you understand the cross in that light, you begin to understand better just how magnificent God's grace to you is, if you are a Christian. The mission of redemption that Jesus undertook involved a commitment to endure God's wrath in your place, to take the hell that you deserve. What an amazing display of love and mercy that is! Yet you will only see and understand this display of love clearly when you understand, accept, and shudder at the horror of hell.

5. Hell focuses our minds on the task of proclaiming the gospel. If hell is real, and if people are truly in danger of spending eternity there, then there is no more urgent and important task than doing precisely what Jesus told his apostles to do before he ascended to heaven—proclaim to the world the good news that forgiveness of sins is offered through Jesus Christ!

I think John Piper got it exactly right in a Gospel Coalition interview: "It's very hard to give up on the gospel if you believe there is hell, that after this life, there is an endless suffering for those who did not believe in the gospel." There are all kinds of good things that Christians can do—and in fact should do! But if hell is real, it is worth keeping in mind—no, it is imperative that we keep in mind—that the one thing that Christians can do that no one else in the world is ever going to do is to tell people how they can be forgiven of their sin, how they can avoid spending an eternity in hell.

CONCLUSION

There is no doubt that the doctrine of hell is horrible. The doctrine is horrible because the reality is horrible. But that's not a reason to avert our eyes and ignore it, much less to reject it. There are those who think that, by rejecting or at least ignoring the doctrine in their preaching, they are making God more glorious and more loving. Far from it! What they are really doing is unwittingly stealing glory from the Savior Jesus Christ, as if what he saved us from was… well, not so bad after all. In fact, the horrific nature of what we have been saved from only intensifies the glory of what we have been saved to. Not only so, but as we see ever more clearly the horror of hell, we look with ever more love, ever more gratitude, and ever greater worship to the One who endured that
bas hell for us and saved us.


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baseless with no scripture!!!!!
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Nobody: 7:07pm On Jul 14, 2013
handsomebolanle:
baseless with no scripture!!!!!

thanks.

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Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by alexleo(m): 7:12pm On Jul 14, 2013
handsomebolanle:
baseless with no scripture!!!!!

Must you tell this lie? There is nothing baseless about this wonderful teaching and this teaching is not against the scripture neither is it with NO SCRIPTURE as you falsely declared. It could be baseless to you but that doesnt make it baseless. You are not the yard stick to measure what should be baseless with the lie you have told here.
Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Nobody: 7:20pm On Jul 14, 2013
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. Rev 20:14

Faith is a journey and as such the point from which one sets out is not the place to which one arrives. What I now believe and understand concerning the gospel and the nature and character of God, is not what I believed when I was a spiritual babe. That’s not to say all I believed was wrong, but truth has a way of undoing our carnal preconceptions. As followers of the way, our lives will always exemplify a sense of this journey, of moving from the darkness of this present world, toward the light of a heavenly kingdom.

In all fairness to myself and many who might read this post, as spiritual babes we are not well acquainted with righteousness. Paul alludes to this when he speaks of the need to move from milk to meat, from carnality to righteousness.

Each and every one of us are brought into the kingdom as carnal creatures of the flesh. We may be counted amongst the brethren, and we may be called with a holy calling, but we remain creatures of the flesh until that seed of His Spirit begins to bring forth life in this mortal body of death.

The way, or the faith, is a journey from death to life; from darkness to light; from serving the flesh and the kingdoms of this present world to abiding in the spirit and truth of His word, and serving the living God.

For me now, to speak of hell and eternal torment in a fiery pit where flesh and sinew sizzle forever, is a concept which finds no fertile ground. Yet, in the beginning, at the outset of this journey it was a doctrine I wholeheartedly embraced. To my shame and with all of the religious zeal a pharisee could muster, I too concluded that the vast majority of humanity would burn or be destroyed in a literal inferno forever.

Eternal torment is a concept which found fertile ground in a callous and unregenerate mind. It motivated certain behaviour in me which I now see as being altogether ungodly. But again, in all fairness to myself, I was a babe in Christ, a creature of the flesh, seeking to make sense of this world through the doctrines of the institutional church.

In my zeal for God and for truth and righteousness, the doctrine of eternal torment made sense. That measure of wrathful vengeance of a Holy God on a wicked and evil creature. Yes, I wholeheartedly nodded my head in agreement to the comments of preachers throughout the age who would say “we deserve hell” or “hell is God’s holy justice upon a most depraved creature”. This I now realize was that same spirit that led to the murder of Abel, just dressed up in a religious garment.

Of course my carnal understanding wasn’t helped by the many and various versions of the bible which translate the word judgment into damnation(2 Thess 2:12). Damnation kinda fits with the doctrine of hell, yet, the original intention of the word is judgment, which speaks of something else altogether.

On top of that one of the first books I read when coming to the faith was a book called the “vision of Marietta Davis” an account of one woman’s journey into heaven and hell. I could go on about the many testimonies I’ve read or heard concerning eternal and unending torment in literal flames of fire, to which I thought only as truth revealed to God’s servants.

When I look back now at this most awful doctrine I consider it nothing less than a miracle that I escaped it’s hideous claws with all of it’s great lying signs and wonders


Eternal torment is an abomination!

Any doctrine which hides the nature and character of God is an abomination. Any doctrine which removes underlying truths from the gospel like justice, equity, mercy; love, is no less than a doctrine of demons.

When God’s true nature and character are tainted, when His truth is hidden, the minds of the very ones who have set out to follow Christ will end up on the broad way.

Hellish torment creates a culture of “fear” which is in itself an incredibly powerful driver for cultish behaviour. Fearing torment does not normally compel one to go out in the love of Christ and serve, rather it stands back waving a banner “repent or burn”

By all means apply a godly fear to your lives in order to motivate you to flee sins of the flesh, but why impose your hellish torments upon others.

A lot of that which hell believing followers do is motivated not by love, but fear of torment. It’s strength is not in the love of Christ, but the fear of damnation. Furthermore it leaves little room for justice in this present world, it suggests that God will not deal with men in an equitable and just manner, but rather repay them in a form and measure many times greater than the wages of their sin.

This inequity is also lived out in a more personal way when the believer, knowing he is loved by God sees himself as infinitely more worthy than the sinner, who is despised and hated by God and fit only for eternal torment and damnation. Self is exalted, selflessness is denied. “God loves His enemies” is nothing more than some kind of momentary lapse of God’s reasoning pending the great day of unending torment in flames of fire. Therefore this becomes a powerful motivator for how ones life is lived. It is not lived in selfless sacrificial agape love toward God and man, but inwardly self serving, self exalting, protection mode that does not see others as better than themselves.

Furthermore, where is mercy? Mercy triumphs over judgment! That’s what the word says and yet the doctrine of hell concludes that judgment triumphs over mercy. This is an abomination. If the Lord said that Mercy triumphs over judgment who are you oh man to deny His word?

Where is the love? God is love! The God who created the heavens and the earth who loves His enemies, and compels us to love; agape; selfless and sacrificial love, our enemies, shall He now go forth as a complete hypocrite and torment the ones He came to save? What happened to “love never fails”

Where is the power of God? the love of God? the mercy of God? the justice of God? when it comes to the inequitable, unjust and merciless doctrine of burning flesh and sinew forever more.

I spent many years in a church which wholeheartedly believed that God would send unrepentant sinners to eternal torment. I’ve seen it’s fruit and it’s not Christlike. Sure, there is a zeal for truth and righteousness, but the people rarely ever actually find these things. What they find is religion and the life as promised to them in Christ, alludes them. They remain within the walls of the institution, hunkered down, lest they stumble into damnation. Supposing that their separation from the world (in a literal sense) is the security of their salvation, which it is not.

If you think that standing in your congregation warning the world that they are all going to burn in eternal torment is somehow like Christ, or is somehow a demonstration of the love of God ; justice, mercy and truth, then you too have been taken captive by the lie. Why don’t we just read our bible and follow Him, imitate His life, live out a life which demonstrates love toward God and men.

Agape love is the fruit of the believer, Christ like agape, selfless and sacrificial love toward both God and man. This is the narrow way by which men enter into life.

Eternal torment is a founding doctrine of the man of sin, who sits in the temple of God proclaiming himself to be as God. He declares a merciless, loveless, callous and judgmental god that is reconciled with his own callous and carnal mind. A god of his own making. But for the grace of God, there go I.

The truth to that is far more profound than many perceive, that the Lord God Almighty will allow us to choose our own delusions because we would not receive a love of the truth. Now that my brothers and sisters is the manifestation of His wrath! Not unending torment.

But those who wish to boast should boast in this alone: that they truly know me and understand that I am the LORD who demonstrates unfailing love and who brings justice and righteousness to the earth, and that I delight in these things. Jer 9:24

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Re: Why Hell Is Integral To The Gospel by Nobody: 7:20pm On Jul 14, 2013
^^^^

My new position.

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