This post is for our propaganda spewing Russian bots who claim that Russia alone is stronger than the whole of NATO. Check out the article below and have a little glimpse of the sheer capability of the US military might.
This excludes the fact that USA citizens are professional gun wielders with an average of 120 guns for every 100 adult citizen.

https://www.quora.com/If-China-and-Russia-decided-to-team-up-and-try-to-invade-the-United-States-how-long-would-it-take-for-the-US-Armed-Forces-to-completely-destroy-the-invaders

The end of the world will come and no one will enjoy the victory.

They can't team up, cos neither of them will claim world power, a single country have to conquer US to hold the title, the US knows that

sim37:
They can't team up, cos neither of them will claim world power, a single country have to conquer US to hold the title, the US knows that

yet the US needs Nato and the rest of the world (on its side) to "try" to defeat tiny Russia, abi? the same Russia that has been in Ukraine fighting A) Ukrainian forces, B) all the west and its allies dropping military support with planes/drones/tanks etc and yet Russia is still standing after more than 1yr...

regardless of what people may think, RUSSIA has been winning in Ukraine and if China joins forces, they will conquer THE WORLD, not just Ukraine!

sim37:
They can't team up, cos neither of them will claim world power, a single country have to conquer US to hold the title, the US knows that

and Russia doesn't really seem to be interested in claiming such title.

They seem to somehow promote YUAN, more than their Ruble. Russia seem to promote more of "make every country control dem lane", more than "We want to Control the entire world". The more reason more countries seem to be in agreement with them

MrBrownJay1:


yet the US needs Nato and the rest of the world (on its side) to "try" to defeat tiny Russia, abi? the same Russia that has been in Ukraine fighting A) Ukrainian forces, B) all the west and its allies dropping military support with planes/drones/tanks etc and yet Russia is still standing after more than 1yr...

regardless of what people may think, RUSSIA has been winning in Ukraine and if China joins forces, they will conquer THE WORLD, not just Ukraine!

One thing USA FEARs most, is realtionship between China & Russia growing strong.

China would be more brutal, just that they don't have the capability of Russia. Also in terms of financial power, China leads - China is wealthier than Russia, but Russia has a lot of (essential) resources making them much RICHer than those with much money.

Recently, even Putin is coming up with ways to make Russian economy less reliant on Crude oil

Only time shall tell
The problem is, US is not alone, if only the could isolate then attack before the second and third strongest army will bring US to it feet's But for now this people are still far behind in terms of military expenditure war experience, strong allies and military technology, so only time shall tell.

MrBrownJay1:


yet the US needs Nato and the rest of the world (on its side) to "try" to defeat tiny Russia, abi? the same Russia that has been in Ukraine fighting A) Ukrainian forces, B) all the west and its allies dropping military support with planes/drones/tanks etc and yet Russia is still standing after more than 1yr...

regardless of what people may think, RUSSIA has been winning in Ukraine and if China joins forces, they will conquer THE WORLD, not just Ukraine!

If the combination of Russia and China would defeat the US, why do you think they haven't formed the coalition already?.

The US/NATO isn't fighting Russia, it's a Ukraine vs Russia thingy..

The US has the best military industrial complex in the World, aside having thousands of stock piled weapons, they can also replace lost weapons faster than both Russia and China at the moment.

Russia is still standing, but are they standing well??

If it was US vs Russia bar Nuclear weapons, Russia stands no chance against the US, when you put in consideration weapons productions and capabilities, their economy; war is expensive, number of military bases around the world, experience and training, and allies.

While China has the one of the biggest economy, Militarily they are untested and are unwilling to sponsor or be party to war. The only advantage China would have is man power, they would be able to mobilize alot but with the kind of weapons available it probably won't matter, and majority of the war would be fought closer to Russia/China.

If the US was to attempt a blockage it would be detrimental to the Chinese economy as they rely heavily on exports, why do you think China is reluctant to go war for Taiwan?

The US would have overwhelming advantage in the sea and the air. The US have the best Navy and Air force, even Army but as a result of numbers I willing to give the China/Russia the advantage on land. The best C/R can do is haul missiles at the US, but their troops would never get there.

nairalander2020:
Only time shall tell
The problem is, US is not alone, if only the could isolate then attack before the second and third strongest army will bring US to it feet's But for now this people are still far behind in terms of military expenditure war experience, strong allies and military technology, so only time shall tell.

You still believe Russia is the second strongest army in the World?

bassdow:
One thing USA FEARs most, is realtionship between China & Russia growing strong.

China would be more brutal, just that they don't have the capability of Russia. Also in terms of financial power, China leads - China is more wealthy than Russia, but Ruussia has a lot of resources that makes them much RICHer than those with much money.

Recently, even Putin is coming up with ways to make Russian economy less reliant on Crude oil

Before Russia becomes less reliant on crude, it'd take years and a big market for their exports. if they want to venture into Agriculture, they need market, if it's technology, they still need market and their best brains, which they lost a significant number when they did the mobilization.

No matter the diversification, to create surplus value and make wealth, they would need to export.

Russia and China won't get together for long, at the moment their partnership or relationship is an unequal one, with Russia heavily reliant on China, and after the war you'd be a comedian to think China would help Russia back up to being number 2.

And Russia is basically exporting it's best Technology to China, something the West would never do.

Tiopii:
If the combination of Russia and China would defeat the US, why do you think they haven't formed the coalition already?.

... because as much as Russia is ready to go to war with the whole world, China is not.... and want to continue the diplomacy route. but you best believe that if/when Russia and China joins hands, its a GAME OVER for the rest of the world!

bassdow:
and Russia doesn't really seem to be interested in claiming such title.

They seem to somehow promote YUAN, more than their Ruble. Russia seem to promote more of "make every country control dem lane", more than "We want to Control the entire world". The more reason more countries seem to be in agreement with them

This has to be a joke.

Imagine Nigeria promoting cedes over Naira, you just know something is wrong, except Russia is Planning to adopt China's Yuan.

The reason Russia is promoting the de dollarization is cos of the embargo placed on Russia in accessing Dollars, if it continues like this Rubles would fall significantly in relation to Dollars being the currency of international trade. if countries that Russia hopes to transact with only receives Dollars they would lack the ability to transact and spell doom for the Russian economy. They won't be able to buy or sell.

What countries are in agreement with Russia? you should have moved past this at the moment.

Russia at its present state can't seek world domination but rather self preservation. That's where Russia is at the moment.

Tiopii:


You still believe Russia is the second strongest army in the World?

I believe the numbers of their nukes matter and its still their on Google you can check it out.

Tiopii:


You still believe Russia is the second strongest army in the World?

I believe the numbers of their nukes matter and its still their on Google you can check it out.

MrBrownJay1:


... because as much as Russia is ready to go to war with the whole world, China is not.... and want to continue the diplomacy route. but you best believe that if/when Russia and China joins hands, its a GAME OVER for the rest of the world!

China is going through the diplomacy route cos that's the only route they can afford to go.

In an event of War between China/Russia vs the whole world. The US would need cooperation with India, Philippines, South Korea and Japan to contain China, China would be on the defense all through the war.


while the West would handle Russia, they are already surrounded.

The best and biggest military industrial complex are in the US/West. The distance between China/Russia to mainland US would significantly negate their missiles are it would take minutes for their missiles to go to mainland US so weapons production/replacement shouldn't be that much of an issue.

nairalander2020:

I believe the numbers of their nukes matter and its still their on Google you can check it out.

The Nukes isn't helping in Ukraine, Russia launching Nukes first still doesn't make them favourite.

Tiopii:


The Nukes isn't helping in Ukraine, Russia launching Nukes first still doesn't make them favourite.

Until their territorial integrity is threatened that where the nukes come to action but for now the war is still in Ukraine territory so no need for nukes.
And In another term the use of nuke means the start world war3 every body is careful with how he/she applied those weapon.
Every country has a rule base on what can trigger their use of nuclear weapons.

Tiopii:
China is going through the diplomacy route cos that's the only route they can afford to go.
In an event of War between China/Russia vs the whole world. The US would need cooperation with India, Philippines, South Korea and Japan to contain China, China would be on the defense all through the war.
while the West would handle Russia, they are already surrounded.

The best and biggest military industrial complex are in the US/West. The distance between China/Russia to mainland US would significantly negate their missiles are it would take minutes for their missiles to go to mainland US so weapons production/replacement shouldn't be that much of an issue.

the US would never get the support of India to contain a China/Russia alliance... India would most likely side with China/Russia (so would North korea, Iran and Belarus)... and as push comes to shove, you might even find countries like Turkey/Pakistan and some European countries joining them (as these countries would have much more to lose siding with US than China/Russia). you can tell yeye bullshit to people for so long, until they realise it was all YEYE BULLSHIT.

BTW with the US Meddling in China's affairs with Taiwan, you can be sure that China would not need much to join Russia.

as for nuclear weapon, the threat of Russia/China against Europe FIRST would have many European countries quickly changing side and standing by Russia and China against the US. by the time, this shift comes along, the US would be by itself against the whole world!

MrBrownJay1:


the US would never get the support of India to contain a China/Russia alliance... India would most likely side with China/Russia (so would North korea, Iran and Belarus)... and as push comes to shove, you might even find countries like Turkey/Pakistan and some European countries joining them (as these countries would have much more to lose siding with US than China/Russia). you can tell yeye bullshit to people for so long, until they realise it was all YEYE BULLSHIT.

BTW with the US Meddling in China's affairs with Taiwan, you can be sure that China would not need much to join Russia.

LOL. You said Russia/China vs the World war, why you changing mouth now na.

What would those European nations lose by siding with the US? why would China and Russia offer Europe?

Check India and China relationship and compare India's relationship with the West.

Turkey is NATO, they saw CSTO but still joined NATO, we don't have to be engaging bout Turkey abeg, we don't need emotions here

You're dealing with too much speculation. you have no idea bout the international terrain.

What would Iran, Belarus and N.Korea contribute to the war? Iran is only a threat in the Middle East, still a threat regardless. maybe Israel would help.

You're making bad claims and can't even defend it 😂😂😅😅😅

You are like Cinderella, you're looking for something but for you it isn't a shoe, I hope you know what you're searching what it is

nairalander2020:

Until their territorial integrity is threatened that where the nukes come to action but for now the war is still in Ukraine territory so no need for nukes.
And In another term the use of nuke means the start world war3 every body is careful with how he/she applied those weapon.
Every country has a rule base on what can trigger their use of nuclear weapons.

so it's unlikely then. which means their Nuclear weapons are useless in Ukraine

Tiopii:
LOL. You said Russia/China vs the World war, why you changing mouth now na.
What would those European nations lose by siding with the US? why would China and Russia offer Europe?
Check India and China relationship and compare India's relationship with the West.
Turkey is NATO, they saw CSTO but still joined NATO, we don't have to be engaging bout Turkey abeg, we don't need emotions here
You're dealing with too much speculation. you have no idea bout the international terrain.
What would Iran, Belarus and N.Korea contribute to the war? Iran is only a threat in the Middle East, still a threat regardless. maybe Israel would help.You're making bad claims and can't even defend it 😂😂😅😅😅
You are like Cinderella, you're looking for something but for you it isn't a shoe, I hope you know what you're searching what it is

again...the problem you have here is that you obviously dont understand that many European/asian countries today are only siding with the west because they believe the yeye stories they were told. so you think India that is buying Russian oil and gas today will go against Russia?! lol! what about Turkey and Bulgaria that are still getting oil and gas from Russia today, do you think they will side with the US?! many of these countries today dont even care about the US/NAto yeye embargo put upon Russian oil and gas. lol

the rest of the world is solely the US ...and everything in between Russia/China and the US will have to make a decision.... because if/when that war starts, then many will not even have the support they need to defend themselves against mighty Russia/China, thus they will automatically know the US was toying with them and therefore as these countries cant defend themselves and/or that the US/Nato cant protect them....so they will quickly side with Russia/China (aka instrumental war), by the time US understands that they cant defeat the new alliance, they will quickly back down, apologize and run back to its house jejely. no blood will be spilled and the world will become a better place.
aka what the US/Nato tried to do with stubborn Russia in Ukraine and it failed miserably!

lol, yet that same Iran is actively/openly supporting Russia in Ukraine, and thanks to all this support, Russia is still standing against the whole world. BTW

Tiopii:


so it's unlikely then. which means their Nuclear weapons are useless in Ukraine

Ukraine is not worthy to be nuke for now conventional weapon will finish the work.
If nukes are use in Ukraine now the world will start shouting cheating game that's why is a man to man affairs.

Gbadebo19:
This post is for our propaganda spewing Russian bots who claim that Russia alone is stronger than the whole of NATO. Check out the article below and have a little glimpse of the sheer capability of the US military might.
This excludes the fact that USA citizens are professional gun wielders with an average of 120 guns for every 100 adult citizen.

https://www.quora.com/If-China-and-Russia-decided-to-team-up-and-try-to-invade-the-United-States-how-long-would-it-take-for-the-US-Armed-Forces-to-completely-destroy-the-invaders

MAD. US was established to fight war while Russia is a war mongering nation. China is a pacifist nation.
I believe US and Russia wouldn't fight each other directly. Proxy wars, yes. Putin is so stupid to invade Ukraine. As long as Ukraine is ready to fight, US would keep supplying weapons.

MrBrownJay1:


again...the problem you have here is that you obviously dont understand that many European/asian countries today are only siding with the west because they believe the yeye stories they were told. so you think India that is buying Russian oil and gas today will go against Russia?! lol! what about Turkey and Bulgaria that are still getting oil and gas from Russia today, do you think they will side with the US?! many of these countries today dont even care about the US/NAto yeye embargo put upon Russian oil and gas. lol

the rest of the world is solely the US ...and everything in between Russia/China and the US will have to make a decision.... because if/when that war starts, then many will not even have the support they need to defend themselves against mighty Russia/China, thus they will automatically know the US was toying with them and therefore as these countries cant defend themselves and/or that the US/Nato cant protect them....so they will quickly side with Russia/China (aka instrumental war), by the time US understands that they cant defeat the new alliance, they will quickly back down, apologize and run back to its house jejely. no blood will be spilled and the world will become a better place.
aka what the US/Nato tried to do with stubborn Russia in Ukraine and it failed miserably!

lol, yet that same Iran is actively/openly supporting Russia in Ukraine, and thanks to all this support, Russia is still standing against the whole world. BTW

Speculations too much. selah

nairalander2020:
Ukraine is not worthy to be nuke for now conventional weapon will finish the work.
If nukes are use in Ukraine now the world will start shouting cheating game that's why is a man to man affairs.

Russia cannot win Ukraine in conventional war.

nairalander2020:
Ukraine is not worthy to be nuke for now conventional weapon will finish the work.
If nukes are use in Ukraine now the world will start shouting cheating game that's why is a man to man affairs.

so it's useless then?

joyandfaith:


Russia cannot win Ukraine in conventional war.

why?Russia has more arsenal than ukraine,supers powers don't lose no war,only once was it recorded in history when US fought Vietnam that a supper power was defeated So is a pattern.
The west knowing well where Ukraine will be headed for,thats why the jump in,
Conventional warfare is what is been in use for over 60yrs the last a nuke was use in warfare was in world war 2 so why should it be a problem now.
The end of this war will not be a Russian defeat but a kind of agreement which will bring the war to an end but for now conventional warfare it is.
Either way is a win win for Russia.

Tiopii:


so it's useless then?

If a nuke is use in Ukraine today me and you are doom. is a taboo that has been stand since world war 2 do the number if a nuke is use its going to be world war 3,I think this time the world will not survive it honestly.
Nuke are for deterrence and also use use for dead or alive situation like example when when an agressor is strangling his victim their is this last energy he/she summon with it last breath to get his or her life back that how a nukes work.
Nukes are a do or die affairs and also a deterrence, so Moscow's is still healthy and breathing.

Tiopii:
Speculations too much. selah

read the subject of this thread... it is all speculation of course!

MrBrownJay1:


read the subject of this thread... it is all speculation of course!

Engaging him is a complete waste of time, i guess he is a kid addicted to Hollywood war movies lol

nairalander2020:

If a nuke is use in Ukraine today me and you are doom. is a taboo that has been stand since world war 2 do the number if a nuke is use its going to be world war 3,I think this time the world will not survive it honestly.
Nuke are for deterrence and also use use for dead or alive situation like example when when an agressor is strangling his victim their is this last energy he/she summon with it last breath to get his or her life back that how a nukes work.
Nukes are a do or die affairs and also a deterrence, so Moscow's is still healthy and breathing.

Cos you're breathing doesn't mean you're healthy, even people in coma still breath.

So the nukes are useless

MrBrownJay1:


read the subject of this thread... it is all speculation of course!

The US military and economic capability isn't speculation, that most of the former USSR joining NATO isn't speculation, Turkey position in NATO isn't speculation.

The US military industrial complex being the best in the World isn't speculation, That Russia/China vs the world war don't stand a chance isn't speculation, The whole world doesn't even need to fight just placing trade embargos or restrictions on Russia/China would crumble their economy isn't speculation.

That NATO has Russia surrounded isn't speculation, that China would be contained isn't speculation.

Your speculation includes, nations that left the USSR to join NATO as a result of security guarantees and economic prosperity would rejoin Russia/China in a case of war is a stupid assumption.

That the US won't be able to protect allies is another stupid speculation, if this was true, Russia would have waited for Ukraine to join NATO before attacking just to lay waste of US claims as being the guarantor of peace in Europe.

China can't ever assert itself as the dominating force in Asia, but wants to challenge the US, is a stupid thought.

Alot of nations supporting Ukraine got oil from Russia in the past, and their sovereignty wasn't even threatened directly by Russia.

Russia has huge reserve of oil, the oil is only useful to Russia when it is sold, so if Russia stops selling their oil, they would collapse. As much as Europe needs oil, Russia is a dilemma to also sell the oil to make money as you know Russia is heavily reliant on their oil exports.

Same thing with China, China is an exporting country, with the US and Europe it's biggest market, what nation or group of nations would replace the $$? China has no replacement for US/West's market.

If Russia/China ever formed a coalition with each other against the World, the World would simply respond by placing economic embargos on both of them. Those weapons they want to fight with, they would sell it to those black market Arms dealers for money 😂😂😂😂😂.

The coalition would struggle and would be on the defense all through. We are only taking on nations, we haven't said anything on the US military bases.

Same Russia is struggling in Ukraine, and China is untested in modern warfare. They stand no chance against NATO, takeless of the entire World bar Nuclear arms.

Conventional warfare, they are not favourites against NATO, take less the entire World.