2023 Tribunal Sitting: These Are The Truth, Forfeiture Is A Crime, Winning 25% Of FCT Is Mandatory — Oseloka Obaze

Mr. Oseloka Obaze, a former secretary to the government of Anambra State and a chieftain of the Labour Party, has noted that winning 25% of the votes cast in Abuja, the Federal Capital Territory, is required, and that forfeiting money is a punishment for a crime. He notes that these are the truths that need to be said.

Mr Oseloka Obaze made this disclosure in a tweet he made on his twitter handle, while reacting to the petition that is presently pending before the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal. He also urged Nigerians not to upend the rule of law.

He wrote: “By Supreme Court Precedent: Winning 25% of FCT is mandatory! Forfeiture is penalty for a crime!! These are the truth!! Nigerians let’s not upend the rule of law!!!”

It should be recalled that that Labour Party and the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, and their Presidential Candidates, are presently in the court, challenging the election that produced Bola Ahmed Tinubu as the President.

In a petition filed by Obi and Atiku, they claimed that for any one to be declared as the President, the person must secure at least 25% of total votes cast in FCT Abuja.

In another separate Petition, they claimed that Tinubu is not qualified to contest for the presidential election, having forfeited some amount of money in the United States, many years ago.

Be it as it may, Nigerians are waiting for the court to give its judgement on these issues.

https://bunady.com/2023-tribunal-sitting-these-are-the-truth-forfeiture-is-a-crime-winning-25-of-fct-is-mandatory-oseloka-obaze/

That's his opinion, it's the court that determines if it's a crime or not.

How can you forfeit a whooping $460,000 due to drug trafficking and thereafter claimed you have not committed a crime?

Tinubu's surpporters are smart by half. They agree Tinubu is a documented narcotic trafficker but don't want to admit he is a criminal. Is it possible like that?

booblacain:
That's his opinion, it's the court that determines if it's a crime or not.

If Tinubu uses your brain for ritual, do we need to wait for court before determining if he has committed a crime? Stop supporting evil because you may be a victim one day.

booblacain:
That's his opinion, it's the court that determin u if it's a crime or not.

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The loss of a right, privilege or propertycause of a crime, breach of obligation or neglect of duty”. The Apex Court further held
that: “Therefore, forfeiture connotes
punishment for a crime committed, and it's effect is instantaneous”.

that is justice Ariwola definition of forfeiture in 2014

booblacain:
That's his opinion, it's the court that determines if it's a crime or not.

...forfeiting money is a punishment for a crime. You don't need court to know this. You only need common sense.

Peter Obi Fc

Another obituary clown who came a distant third in Anambra state election. Loser supporting loser in stupidity. United in losing. Losers United 😂😂😂.

floret23:
If Tinubu uses your brain for ritual, do we need to wait for court before determining if he has committed a crime? Stop supporting evil because you may be a victim one day.

In a land where the law reigns supreme, yes you have to wait for the court to determine if he has committed a crime. If you can't wait, then do away with the laws.

Newton2024:
...forfeiting money is a punishment for a crime. You don't need court to know this. You only need common sense.

My common sense does tell me that Tinubu indeed committed a crime and was fined for it, but common sense is common sense, the law is the law.

Novarisammy2:
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The loss of a right, privilege or propertycause of a crime, breach of obligation or neglect of duty”. The Apex Court further held
that: “Therefore, forfeiture connotes
punishment for a crime committed, and it's effect is instantaneous”.

that is justice Ariwola definition of forfeiture in 2014

If that is the case, then I guess Obi does have a case, again, that is my opinion.

booblacain:


My common sense does tell me that Tinubu indeed committed a crime and was fined for it, but common sense is common sense, the law is the law.

Is law supposed to lack common sense (logic)? For instance, how can someone who didn't partake in primary election find himself in the Senate? Judiciary is the major part of Nigeria's problem.

It's more like cold chicken bakside

Corn247:

seunmsg:
Another obituary clown who came a distant third in Anambra state election. Loser supporting loser in stupidity. United in losing. Losers United 😂😂😂.

Losers United got me rolling on the mud😀😀😀😀😀😆😆😆

seunmsg:
Another obituary clown who came a distant third in Anambra state election. Loser supporting loser in stupidity. United in losing. Losers United 😂😂😂.

Kadoso Mutairu aka seunmsg! Broda elenu shobiri!😝😝😝😝

Novarisammy2:
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The loss of a right, privilege or propertycause of a crime, breach of obligation or neglect of duty”. The Apex Court further held
that: “Therefore, forfeiture connotes
punishment for a crime committed, and it's effect is instantaneous”.

that is justice Ariwola definition of forfeiture in 2014

In the US, where the incident happened, a Forfeiture is not necessarily a punishment to the person that forfeited the property or monies.

A conviction is a punishment that results in a fine or imprisonment, a Forfeiture is not a Conviction.

The third party that paid money into President Tinubu's account was punished because their monies, as identified by the prosecuting authorities, in his account was taken away from them. President Tinubu wasn't punished as none of his money was taken from him.

floret23:
If Tinubu uses your brain for ritual, do we need to wait for court before determining if he has committed a crime? Stop supporting evil because you may be a victim one day.

hate will not take u igbos anywhere

It didn’t work for buhari it won’t work against tinubu

U igbos should get used to it that tinubu will rule u for 8 years

Or u wan deny say u no b Igbo?

aswani:


In the US, where the incident happened, a Forfeiture is not necessarily a punishment to the person that forfeited the property or monies.

A conviction is a punishment that results in a fine or imprisonment, a Forfeiture is not a Conviction.

The third party that paid money into President Tinubu's account was punished because their monies, as identified by the prosecuting authorities, in his account was taken away from them. President Tinubu wasn't punished as none of his money was taken from him.

the igbos know d truth but hate will never make them agree

Justice oseloka we've heard you

So the shameless Obaze is still showing his self after the humiliating loss Willie Obiano heaped on him in 2017. Idiot who couldn't win a single local govt in the election even his own.

Newton2024:
...forfeiting money is a punishment for a crime. You don't need court to know this. You only need common sense.

Go and read about civil forfeiture.Tinubu was not involved in any criminal case

Eyes, ears, nose and throat ON THE JAUNDICED JUDICIARY!

aswani:


In the US, where the incident happened, a Forfeiture is not necessarily a punishment to the person that forfeited the property or monies.

A conviction is a punishment that results in a fine or imprisonment, a Forfeiture is not a Conviction.

The third party that paid money into President Tinubu's account was punished because their monies, as identified by the prosecuting authorities, in his account was taken away from them. President Tinubu wasn't punished as none of his money was taken from him.

that's not true bro



In the United States, civil forfeiture
(also called civil asset forfeiture or civil
judicial forfeiture) is a process in
which law enforcement officers take
assets from people who are suspected
of involvement with crime or illegal
activity without necessarily charging
the owners with wrongdoing .

floret23:
[b]
If Tinubu uses your brain for ritual, do we need to wait for court before determining if he has committed a crime? [/b]Stop supporting evil because you may be a victim one day.

Gbas gbos

aswani:


In the US, where the incident happened, a Forfeiture is not necessarily a punishment to the person that forfeited the property or monies.

A conviction is a punishment that results in a fine or imprisonment, a Forfeiture is not a Conviction.

The third party that paid money into President Tinubu's account was punished because their monies, as identified by the prosecuting authorities, in his account was taken away from them. President Tinubu wasn't punished as none of his money was taken from him.

In civil forfeiture, assets are seized by police
based on a suspicion of wrongdoing, and
without having to charge a person with specific
wrongdoing, with the case being between police
and the thing itself, sometimes referred to by the
Latin term in rem, meaning "against the property";
the property itself is the defendant and no
criminal charge against the owner is needed.


that's undeniable facts according to Wikipedia

aswani:


In the US, where the incident happened, a Forfeiture is not necessarily a punishment to the person that forfeited the property or monies.

A conviction is a punishment that results in a fine or imprisonment, a Forfeiture is not a Conviction.

The third party that paid money into President Tinubu's account was punished because their monies, as identified by the prosecuting authorities, in his account was taken away from them. President Tinubu wasn't punished as none of his money was taken from him.

stop the misinformation


Civil forfeiture begins when government suspects
that a property is connected with illegal drug
activity, and files a civil action: [23]
The government simply
files a civil action in rem
against the property itself,
and then generally must
prove, by a preponderance
of the evidence, that the
property is forfeitable
under the applicable
forfeiture statute. Civil
forfeiture is independent
of any criminal case, and
because of this, the
forfeiture action may be
filed before indictment,
after indictment, or even if
there is no indictment.
Likewise, civil forfeiture
may be sought in cases in
which the owner is
criminally acquitted of the
underlying crimes ...
— Craig Gaumer,
Assistant United States
Attorney, 2007

copied

floret23:
2023 Tribunal Sitting: These Are The Truth, Forfeiture Is A Crime, Winning 25% Of FCT Is Mandatory — Oseloka Obaze


https://bunady.com/2023-tribunal-sitting-these-are-the-truth-forfeiture-is-a-crime-winning-25-of-fct-is-mandatory-oseloka-obaze/

This guy's name always remind me of the heavy Benin influence on Anambra state.
Heck their king is even addressed as Obi....unlike in other parts of igboland where you see igbwe and ezes.
And dresses like a Benin Prince.

I didn't bring this up as a jest or as an insult but go highlight the foolishness of tribal trolls who harps on mistakes of history to score cheap political points.
Every tribe has gone through difficult past...many have made mistakes that haunts their descendants till date.

Novarisammy2:


that's not true bro

In the United States, civil forfeiture
(also called civil asset forfeiture or civil
judicial forfeiture) is a process in
which law enforcement officers take
assets from people who are suspected
of involvement with crime or illegal
activity without necessarily charging
the owners with wrongdoing .

You have responsed three times to define forfeiture and at no point countered my point about a Forfeiture not being a Conviction.

In fact you are buttressing my point as per the above where being a suspect is definitely no proof of any wrongdoing under the law.

aswani:


You have responsed three times to define forfeiture and at no point countered my point about a Forfeiture not being a Conviction.

In fact you are buttressing my point as per the above where being a suspect is definitely no proof of any wrongdoing under the law.

you said forfeiture is not a punishment. u re contradicting urself

Novarisammy2:


you said forfeiture is not a punishment. u re contradicting urself

In the context of Legal proceedings in the US, where the issue happened, Forfeiture is not a punishment. Fines and Imprisonment are Convictions which are legal penalties (or punishments).

President Tinubu forfeited monies in his account that were not his, the person that owned the monies, who technically didn't forfeit the monies as it wasn't in their account, was the one "punished" by the US government seizing it.

That person probably also was additionally punished in other ways by imprisonment if the US government could have proved their case.

aswani:


In the US, where the incident happened, a Forfeiture is not necessarily a punishment to the person that forfeited the property or monies.

A conviction is a punishment that results in a fine or imprisonment, a Forfeiture is not a Conviction.

The third party that paid money into President Tinubu's account was punished because their monies, as identified by the prosecuting authorities, in his account was taken away from them. President Tinubu wasn't punished as none of his money was taken from him.

Are you saying forfeiting $460k is not a punishment?