Curse777:
Military are capable of conducting free and fair election without western influence

Most election in Africa is heavily influenced by the West...

If Russia installs Military rule, and also get Military to get an election within 6 months of take over then it's a win win

orisa37:
UNTIL RUSSIA GETS OUT OF UKRAINE AND CRIMEA.

OkCornel:
Trade and infrastructure deals, just like China

Minsk24:

Russia does not have economic might

OkCornel:


They can supply arms and technical know how. That’s still trade.

pansophist:
Russia may have the will, but they do not have the might.

Russia should have worked to be strong like China financially, after all, it was Russia (then the Soviet Union), that incubated CCP China to grow into the behemoth that it is today.

From heavy industries such as steel production to military technology, nuclear secrets, political umbrellas, and even Mao, the founder of present-day China studied in the soviet union.

So for Russia to just stand still and be comfortable just being a resources powerhouse directly affects its weight in geopolitics. It might interest you to know that if the Russians didn't get a firm YES from the Chinese, they will not have invaded Ukraine.

So China is fully behind Russia, to absorb any blow the West throw at it. China is that strong. It is not a coincidence that before the Ukraine war, Putin went to China first, to sign the no-limit agreement.

So to be good to others, you have to be strong. A weak country/person can't be good because the foundation of goodness is strength. China understood this, hence they didn't waste time developing so fast as never seen before in human history.

So Russia must first develop its economy and max out its potential, then African countries can be confident to ignore the Western-led order, and onboard with the new world.

You are strong not because you think you are, but because you are actually are and in this regard, the Russians have a lot of work to do.

Minsk24:



I fully agree with your perspective,
Russia should have focused more on economy before trying to challenge the West ,that is the main reason i do not rate Vladimir Putin...

Minsk24:


The West and Russia were getting closer when Putin took power.... Putin was on a charm offensive and it was working...
Then he invaded Georgia , sanctions started coming in...he invaded Crimea, more sanctions, These sanctions have hindered Russian economy one way or the other...

Minsk24:


China is best placed when it comes to competing with the west, they took their time to build their economy without confronting the west..even on Taiwan issue, they are still very sensible on how they deal with...

Minsk24:


While African countries might sense an opportunity to align with the east, but, if civilian governments see that the east are backing military coups, do u not think it will give them concern?

pansophist:


About Putin not building the Russian economy, it's more complicated than that. If you compare the Russian economical strength with China, then yes, Russia will measure low.

But if you compare Russian economy with the rest of the world, they are not doing bad at all. Russia is among the top ten largest economy in the world.

Also about Putin not developing Russia's economy, please be aware that Putin inherited an almost defunct country from the drunkard Gorbachev, and built Russia to where it is today.

For russia to be able to withstand the most deadly sanctions the West can give, only goes to show the economical resilience of the Russian economy. Economy is not only about GDP.

Most importantly, a solid economy can be built when you're left alone, not when you're being poked from every corners by aggressive powers. The West will never leave the east alone, so they put more effort to defend than grow their economy.

pansophist:


About Putin not building the Russian economy, it's more complicated than that. If you compare the Russian economical strength with China, then yes, Russia will measure low.

But if you compare Russian economy with the rest of the world, they are not doing bad at all. Russia is among the top ten largest economy in the world.

Also about Putin not developing Russia's economy, please be aware that Putin inherited an almost defunct country from the drunkard Gorbachev, and built Russia to where it is today.

For russia to be able to withstand the most deadly sanctions the West can give, only goes to show the economical resilience of the Russian economy. Economy is not only about GDP.

Most importantly, a solid economy can be built when you're left alone, not when you're being poked from every corners by aggressive powers. The West will never leave the east alone, so they put more effort to defend than grow their economy.

pansophist:


About Putin being on a charm offensive, those days are the early days of his career as a politician. He trusted the West, he wanted to integrate Russia into the West, he asked to join NATO, and even left the base in Cuba as a goodwill gesture.

Putin and Bush had a bromance, that Bush actually spoke good about him. But to the West, such frienship is nothing more than the relationship between a farmer and his chickens. You feed it treat it nice, to make it trust you, get bigger, then it becomes easier to slaughter.

So while the so called frienship between the West is on, the West betrayed that friendship.

It was the West that announced in Bucharest NATO summit of 2007 that he will invite Ukraine and Georgia into NATO, even after promising Soviet Union of not expanding one inch eastward

It was the West that bombed Russia's ally (Yugoslavia) for weeks, because Russia was weak and couldn't do anything.

It was the West that engineered the 2014 maiden coup, overthrowing the democratically elected president for an anti-Russian one. Russia/Putin didn't do this, the west did.

It was the West that also tricked Georgia to invade, and Russia have to react and pushed them back. All what Russia was doing is defend, not offend. Of course you can argue that the war that started last year was an offensive, but that's another topic.

So I don't think it's right to say that Putin messed the relationship up. No, just that he rufused to be a western bittch. And that's what a true leader should be.

pansophist:


About china being the best with competing with the West, I agree with you, BUT, let's give honour to whom honour is due. If not for Russia keeping the West busy and absorbing all its blows, china will not develop in peace.

As far as the West is concern, china and Russia are one target. The target may have two governments, may be called two countries, but as far as destruction is concern, they are one target.

I'm approaching this practically, not as the media wants you to see it. Africa also is one target, the idea of countries are all illusions, the globalist don't think in that angle.

To destroy Russia and china, the first target must be Russia. It's impossible to destroy china when Russia is strong, and if you destroy Russia, then china will fall.

Just open Google Maps, survey the geography of Russia and china, then my point becomes very clear as day.

First of all, the engine of war is industry, and industry needs fuel, gas and resources. Russia is a giant in resources and gas, and china is not. If the West go fight china directly, then Russia will give it endless supply of oil.

The West can't win that way. But if Russia is destroyed first, then china will naturally fall, becuase your population, industry and skills are useless without oil to power them.

Also, if Russia is destroyed and divided into smaller states, then you should expect an American military bases close to China in maybe Vladivostok.

Don't take my word for it, look at the realities on ground. All the former Soviet States are now in NATO and under American alliances. Now Finland is also discussing building NATO infrastructure jist months after joining NATO.

Also, when Taiwan was still recognized as the real china, the US had a military base inside Taiwan (Ching Chuan Kang Air Base) was in the 80s I think, that china was recognized as a country, and they told the US to pack up and leave.

So to destroy China, Russia must go down first. Then you surround it with bases, and puppet government, then starve China from resources to fuel it's war machine.

So while you're praising China for growing economically, we should also appreciate Russia for taking all the blows, which allows China to grow in peace.

pansophist:


The real enemy is western imperialism, not whether you're western or eastern aligned. What the Eastern powers are doing is dismantling it, that's exactly what Brics stands for.

So they won't be backing coup and overthrowing governments, that's an American thing. The evidence is there to see.

China is building infrastructures, strengthening the BRI, bringing peace to the middle East, and just do business. They are not making conditions that you must align with them like the West does.

They are not preaching about democracy, sanctioning, and ganging up with Russia to punish countries. So no, the east are more benevolent and won't descend into the evil the West culturally engage inti

hodari:

You're absolutely correct.

Russia debt is the lowest in the world.

When the drunkard Yelstin was president, Russia was poverty stricken and all the national resources were owned by a few Jewish oligarchs. People queued for scarce bread. It was like Congo.

Honestly, Russians should erect statues all over Russia to honour the great statesman Vladimir Putin.