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Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by 1MILLIONLiGHTS(m): 1:53pm On Sep 08, 2023
mrvitalis:
What concerns an engineer and the viability of a refinery ?

As a mechanical engineer our job is mainly during the design and maybe construction

Unless a refinery runs into design problems a refinery can function without an engineer really but might just keep a few maintenance engineers n maybe production engineers

Technicians and technologists are enough back to the topic


This shows tinubu and his team lack basic understanding of how refineries work or eveb business/economics and I have been saying this for long (socialists)

Obj who was the chief manager of the refinery for 8 years is telling you what he saw( a management problem) and you are saying he is not an engineer... What concerns engineering and viability of a business?


No refinery in Nigeria can break even... We don't really have functional petrochemical sector to take advantage of it and make it profitable

So about 20% of crude would be wasted because you can't process them into anything via petrochemical processes...on a business with very very very slim profit margins you are losing 20% from start

And you want to sale petrol below the standard $1.2 per litre price

Nigeria would need to sale petrol for $1.8 dollars for any refinery to break even or sale them crude at a discount



Don't quote me if you don't understand economics please

What concerns engineers with viability and longevity of refineries? What happened to MTTF, MTBF, Failure rates, Redundancy in systems engineering. These engineers deal with very complex systems from mission to space, satellites, aircrafts, millions of files in a computer. They are not popular doesn't mean they are not useful. Money is not everything.
Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by mrvitalis(m): 2:09pm On Sep 08, 2023
1MILLIONLiGHTS:

What concerns engineers with viability and longevity of refineries? What happened to MTTF, MTBF, Failure rates, Redundancy in systems engineering. These engineers deal with very complex systems from mission to space, satellites, aircrafts, millions of files in a computer. They are not popular doesn't mean they are not useful. Money is not everything.
Those jobs are done during the design and fabrication once it's standing you don't need an engineer

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Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by Tito24: 10:18am On Sep 19, 2023
mrvitalis:
What concerns an engineer and the viability of a refinery ?

As a mechanical engineer our job is mainly during the design and maybe construction

Unless a refinery runs into design problems a refinery can function without an engineer really but might just keep a few maintenance engineers n maybe production engineers

Technicians and technologists are enough back to the topic


This shows tinubu and his team lack basic understanding of how refineries work or eveb business/economics and I have been saying this for long (socialists)

Obj who was the chief manager of the refinery for 8 years is telling you what he saw( a management problem) and you are saying he is not an engineer... What concerns engineering and viability of a business?


No refinery in Nigeria can break even... We don't really have functional petrochemical sector to take advantage of it and make it profitable

So about 20% of crude would be wasted because you can't process them into anything via petrochemical processes...on a business with very very very slim profit margins you are losing 20% from start

And you want to sale petrol below the standard $1.2 per litre price

Nigeria would need to sale petrol for $1.8 dollars for any refinery to break even or sale them crude at a discount



Don't quote me if you don't understand economics please
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Typical elupee

When we say these people no get sense
E be like say we dey abuse them


Oga economics

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Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by Tito24: 10:25am On Sep 19, 2023
lexy2014:


When and how did Obasanjo victimise Tinubu during campaign?

Which refinery was working optimally up till 1999?
I guess you were sleeping all through the election build up abi
Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by mrvitalis(m): 10:54am On Sep 19, 2023
Tito24:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Typical elupee

When we say these people no get sense
E be like say we dey abuse them


Oga economics

I salute 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Challenge to an open debate now you go run
Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by Tito24: 11:13am On Sep 19, 2023
mrvitalis:

Challenge to an open debate now you go run

let's go genius
Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by mrvitalis(m): 11:27am On Sep 19, 2023
Tito24:
let's go genius
Start by objecting to my earlier raised points... Let's see how smart you are
Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by Tito24: 11:36am On Sep 19, 2023
mrvitalis:

Start by objecting to my earlier raised points... Let's see how smart you are
Tinubu said refineries will work by December
You are talking about viability of a refinery
Isnt it supposed to work before it starts to run
Who are the people that should give reports on that
Not engineers

I guess you know better than the president because you are a mechanical engineer
Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by mrvitalis(m): 12:02pm On Sep 19, 2023
Tito24:
Tinubu said refineries will work by December
You are talking about viability of a refinery
Isnt it supposed to work before it starts to run
Who are the people that should give reports on that
Not engineers

I guess you know better than the president because you are a mechanical engineer
Firstly the viability I talked about was economic viability not infrastructure..

Now that aside Engineers are not technologist and are not technicians

Engineering work is largely theoretical 90% of the time as that's more difficult and requires extensive knowledge of laws of science and mathematics.... Except there is a design flaw a refinery can function without an engineer 100%

Technologist n technicians are capable of handling any problem that occurs as they are more trained to carry out reparative repairs

I only said dangote refinery can't work unless we sale petrol at the international price which was $1.2 as at when that post was made... And that's economics has zero to with an engineer

Peace
Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by Tito24: 12:26pm On Sep 19, 2023
mrvitalis:

Firstly the viability I talked about was economic viability not infrastructure..

Now that aside Engineers are not technologist and are not technicians

Engineering work is largely theoretical 90% of the time as that's more difficult and requires extensive knowledge of laws of science and mathematics.... Except there is a design flaw a refinery can function without an engineer 100%

Technologist n technicians are capable of handling any problem that occurs as they are more trained to carry out reparative repairs

I only said dangote refinery can't work unless we sale petrol at the international price which was $1.2 as at when that post was made... And that's economics has zero to with an engineer

Peace
I'm pretty sure the president meant infrastructure maybe economic also but largely infrastructure

These refineries require turnaround maintainance
These are refineries that were built as far back as in the 1960s with parts that are mostly obsolete

Tecnocrats and technicians will come in when they get it to work first though I doubt it will happen by December

Cheers
Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by mrvitalis(m): 12:57pm On Sep 19, 2023
Tito24:
I'm pretty sure the president meant infrastructure maybe economic also but largely infrastructure

These refineries require turnaround maintainance
These are refineries that were built as far back as in the 1960s with parts that are mostly obsolete

Tecnocrats and technicians will come in when they get it to work first though I doubt it will happen by December

Cheers
You obviously don't know the job description of an engineer... Maintenance is definitely not part of it
Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by Tito24: 1:23pm On Sep 19, 2023
mrvitalis:

You obviously don't know the job description of an engineer... Maintenance is definitely not part of it
no I don't
Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by lexy2014: 1:56pm On Sep 19, 2023
Tito24:
I guess you were sleeping all through the election build up abi

Since you you were not sleeping all through the election build up, am surprised u couldn't answer the simple questions.

When and how did Obasanjo victimise Tinubu during campaign?

Which refinery was working optimally up till 1999?
Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by Tito24: 2:05pm On Sep 19, 2023
lexy2014:


Since you you were not sleeping all through the election build up, am surprised u couldn't answer the simple questions.

When and how did Obasanjo victimise Tinubu during campaign?

Which refinery was working optimally up till 1999?
you are still sleeping
Re: You Are Not An Engineer: Tinubu Aide Replies Obasanjo On Port Harcourt Refinery by lexy2014: 2:24pm On Sep 19, 2023
Tito24:
you are still sleeping

Since you were not and are not sleeping all through the election build up, am surprised u couldn't answer the simple questions.

When and how did Obasanjo victimise Tinubu during campaign?

Which refinery was working optimally up till 1999?

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