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Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by jmoore(m): 10:02am On Sep 17, 2023
Nigerian atheists will make it seem that only atheists are scientists.

Nigerian atheists keep painting the picture of theists as those who are against science.

The head of the team that achieved India moon project is S Somanat. He is a Hindu.

The only thing Nigerian atheists can produce is noise.

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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by LordReed(m): 10:06am On Sep 17, 2023
jmoore:
Nigerian atheists will make it seem that only atheists are scientists.

Nigerian atheists keep painting the picture of theists as those who are against science.

The head of the team that achieved India moon project is S Somanat. He is an Hindu.

The only thing Nigerian atheists can produce is noise.

You aren't making sense. What has being Hindu got to do with having a successful moon mission? NOTHING. Because all you need is to follow the scientific principles, your faith in whatever will add NOTHING.

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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by Botragelad: 10:19am On Sep 17, 2023
What a load of rubbish! Nigerian atheists are not saying that only atheists are scientists. They are just pointing out the flaws in some of the religious arguments that go against scientific evidence. You can't use one Hindu scientist as a proof that all theists are pro-science. That's a fallacy.

There are plenty of scientists from different faiths and backgrounds who have contributed to science. And there are also plenty of atheists who have done amazing things for humanity. Nigerian atheists are not making noise, they are making sense. Maybe you should listen to them more, yeah?

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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by Maynman: 10:23am On Sep 17, 2023
jmoore:
Nigerian atheists will make it seem that only atheists are scientists.

Nigerian atheists keep painting the picture of theists as those who aagainst science.

The head of the team that achieved India moon project is S Somanat. He is a Hindu.

The only thing Nigerian atheists can produce is noise.
The big bang theory was formulated by a catholic priest, guess the set of people that attacks it the most...

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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by LordReed(m): 7:50pm On Sep 17, 2023
Maynman:

The big bang theory was formulated by a catholic priest, guess the set of people that attacks it the most...

I had to show one Catholic colleague that indeed the BBT was accepted by the Catholic Church, he initial denied it vehemently until I showed it to him.

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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by Maynman: 7:57pm On Sep 17, 2023
LordReed:


I had to show one Catholic colleague that indeed the BBT was accepted by the Catholic Church, he initial denied it vehemently until I showed it to him.
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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by jaephoenix(m): 6:43am On Sep 18, 2023
jmoore:
Nigerian atheists will make it seem that only atheists are scientists.

Nigerian atheists keep painting the picture of theists as those who are against science.

The head of the team that achieved India moon project is S Somanat. He is a Hindu.

The only thing Nigerian atheists can produce is noise.
Many scientific research has been undertaken by theists. They remove their theistic illogical brain and put on their logical reasoning while at work. No atheists said theists don't do science

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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by jaephoenix(m): 6:45am On Sep 18, 2023
LordReed:


I had to show one Catholic colleague that indeed the BBT was accepted by the Catholic Church, he initial denied it vehemently until I showed it to him.
The Nigerian Catholics don't even know that the pope(a picture of catholic authority) accepts evolution. I had to show some of the ignoramuses here

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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:00am On Sep 18, 2023
jmoore:

Nigerian atheists will make it seem that only atheists are scientists. Nigerian atheists keep painting the picture of theists as those who are against science. The head of the team that achieved India moon project is S Somanat. He is a Hindu. The only thing Nigerian atheists can produce is noise.

These fools claiming atheists are just stupid!

At a time they will claim they're worshipping science as if religionists don't practice science at another time they will start arguing over the achievements of scientists as if they're the custodians of scientific discoveries! grin
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by LordReed(m): 9:23am On Sep 18, 2023
jaephoenix:

The Nigerian Catholics don't even know that the pope(a picture of catholic authority) accepts evolution. I had to show some of the ignoramuses here


Those ones just like arguing for arguing sake especially when scientific facts are staring you in the face.
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by Maynman: 9:53am On Sep 18, 2023
LordReed:



Those ones just like arguing for arguing sake especially when scientific facts are staring you in the face.
Have you watched Richard Dawkins, "what if you're wrong" šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by LordReed(m): 10:59am On Sep 18, 2023
Maynman:

Have you watched Richard Dawkins, "what if you're wrong" šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

No. Is it like a documentary?
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by Maynman: 11:16am On Sep 18, 2023
LordReed:


No. Is it like a documentary?
A short YouTube video.
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by LordReed(m): 11:19am On Sep 18, 2023
Maynman:

A short YouTube video.

Ok lemme check it out.
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by jmoore(m): 11:45am On Sep 18, 2023
Maynman:

The big bang theory was formulated by a catholic priest, guess the set of people that attacks it the most...
LordReed:


I had to show one Catholic colleague that indeed the BBT was accepted by the Catholic Church, he initial denied it vehemently until I showed it to him.

So if a pastor says water + orange will give you petrol, every Christian should believe the pastor?

What do you even know about big bang theory? Have you even read any scientific explanation that debunked it?



Problem with Big Bang Missing Monopoles

There are several scientific problems with the big bang theory. For one, we are missing monopoles.
A ā€œmonopoleā€ is a hypothetical massive particle that is just like a magnet but with only one pole. So a monopole would have either a ā€œnorthā€ pole or a ā€œsouthā€ pole, but not both. Particle physicists claim that the
high temperature conditions of the big bang should have created magnetic monopoles.

Since monopoles are predicted to be stable, they should have lasted to this day. Yet, despite considerable searching, monopoles have not been found . The fact that we donā€™t find any monopoles strongly suggests that the universe never was that hot. This indicates that there never was a big bang.
But the lack of monopoles is not problematic for the Bibleā€™s account of creation because the universe did not start at extremely high temperatures.


Problem with Big Bang: Too Little Antimatter


A second scientific problem with the big bang is there is too little antimatter.
The big bang model proposes that matter (hydrogen and helium gas) was created from energy as the universe expanded.
However, experimental physics tells us that whenever matter is created from energy, such a reaction also produces antimatter.
Antimatter has similar properties to matter, except the charges of the particles are reversed.

The big bang should have produced equal amounts of matter and antimatter. Thus, if the big bang were true, there should be an equal amount of matter and antimatter in the universe today. But there is not. The visible universe is comprised almost entirely of matter ā€”with only trace amounts of antimatter.


Problem with Big Bang: No Population III Stars


A third scientific problem with big bang cosmology is there are no ā€˜population IIIā€™ stars.

The big bang model by itself can account for the existence of only the three lightest elements (hydrogen, helium, and trace amounts of lithium). This leaves the other naturally occurring elements unexplained.

Since the conditions in the big bang model are not right to form these heavier elements, secular astronomers believe that stars have produced the remaining elements by nuclear fusion in their cores, which then distribute the heavier elements into space when they exploded (went supernovae).

Second- and third-generation stars are thus ā€œcontaminatedā€ with small amounts of these heavier elements. If this were true, then the first stars would be comprised of only the three lightest elements (since these would have been the only elements in.existence initially). Some such stars should still be around today since their lifespans are supposed to exceed the 13.8 billion years that has elapsed since the big bang.

Such stars would be called ā€œpopulation IIIā€ stars. Amazingly population III stars have not been found anywhere. All known stars have at least trace amounts of heavy elements in them.


Problem with Big Bang: No Evidence for Cosmic Inflation

A fourth scientific problem with the big bang is there is no evidence for cosmic inflation.

According to the big bang model, the universe suddenly appeared 13.8 billion years ago in a very dense, hot state that expanded into the universe that we see today. But cosmologists realized that there were problems with the CMB. One of these was the horizon problem: the CMB observed from opposite parts of the sky had precisely the same temperature. But how could that be?

Those positions opposite one another had never had a chance to exchange heat, so how could they have come into thermal equilibrium. A theoretical physicist named
Alan Guth suggested cosmic inflation to solve the horizon problem. According to the theory of cosmic inflation, 10-34 seconds after the big bang the universe
briefly and rapidly expanded, or inflated, to.a much larger size with a velocity far faster than the speed of light. This would allow the entire universe initially to be in thermal contact so that it could come into the thermal equilibrium before being pulled out of thermal equilibrium by inflation. The only problem with inflation?
Thereā€™s absolutely no evidence for it, and attempted ā€œproofsā€ have been proposed and then bit the dust.


Problem with Big Bang: Axis of Evil and the Cold Spot

A fifth scientific problem with the big bang is the twofold ā€œhot and cold problemā€ with certain regions of the CMB. The Axis of Evil is a large region of the mapped CMB that has hotter than expected temperatures (below the ecliptic plane) than the Big Bang would allow for. The Cold Spot is a smaller circular region which has colder than expected temperatures. Both were first detected by the WMAP (Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe) launched in
2001. Rather than confront the problems, scientists ascribed it to lack of precise data and hoped they would go away.

But in 2009 the Planck probe was launched and has provided the most detailed data on the CMB to date. Both the Axis of Evil and.the Cold Spot were still there in the data.

There are two major problems with the axis of evil. The axis of evil extends over too large an area to be due to primordial density differences. There are many properties of the CMB that the big bang model can account for, such as a slightly warmer and cooler directions in space that are diametrically opposite. However, there is no known effect that can explain the axis of evil. Second, the axis of evil aligns with the plane in which the earth and the other planets orbit the sun. If the CMB truly is cosmological, this makes no senseā€”why would some huge structure in the universe
align with the plane of the solar system?

This alignment to the plane of the solar.system suggests that the axis of evil is locally generated rather than cosmically generated.

The cold spot is about 10 degrees in diameter, and it has an average temperature of 70 Ī¼K (0.00007 K). In
contrast, the temperature fluctuations attributed to density variations in the early universe extend over much smaller parts of the sky and typically differ by only 18 Ī¼K from the average CMB temperature.

Furthermore, some portions of the cold spot are 140 Ī¼K cooler than the average CMB temperature. Not only that, but the Cold Spot is below the ecliptic plane, which
typically has higher temperatures than areas above the ecliptic plane. This result is puzzling to cosmologists. There have been several proposed explanations for the cold spot. One suggestion is that it is the result of a supervoid in direction of the cold spot.

A more fanciful proposal is that this is the signature of another universe that left its imprint on our universe during cosmic inflation that hypothetically happened
shortly after the big bang. But most cosmologists seem to be content to ignore the cold spot too.

Conclusion: The Big Bang Proposition Is Not Good Science

The above examples are just a few of the many problems with the big bang model.
There simply isnā€™t any good reason to believe in the big bang.
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by LordReed(m): 11:57am On Sep 18, 2023
jmoore:


So if a pastor says water + orange will give you petrol, every Christian should believe the pastor?

What do you even know about big bang theory? Have you even read any scientific explanation that debunked it?




Where did you get this write up?
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by jmoore(m): 12:01pm On Sep 18, 2023
LordReed:


Where did you get this write up?
https://answersingenesis.org/big-bang
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by Maynman: 12:16pm On Sep 18, 2023
jmoore:


So if a pastor says water + orange will give you petrol, every Christian should believe the pastor?


Why not?
How do you know when to believe and not believe your pastors?
What are the characteristics to differentiate them?
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by jmoore(m): 12:33pm On Sep 18, 2023
Maynman:

Why not?
How do you know when to believe and not believe your pastors?
What are the characteristics to differentiate them?

You guys argue for arguing sake.

You are the one that said a catholic priest formulated big bang theory. And you are saying every christian should believe him.

Why not? Because a Christian can't use his brain, abi?

There are many christians who are scientists too. So if a Christian see a scientific explanation that makes no sense, he can debunk such even if it was the bishop or pope that said it.
Why didn't Galileo accept Catholic church position many years ago when he said that earth revolved around the sun and catholic church punished him for heresy?
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by Maynman: 12:51pm On Sep 18, 2023
jmoore:


You guys argue hi arguing sake.

You are the one that said a catholic priest formulated big bang theory. And you are saying every christian should believe him.

Why not? Because a Christian can't use his brain, abi?

There are many christian ins who are scientists too. So if a Chris&-tian see a scientific explanatio n&3- that makes youno sense, he can debunk such even if it was the bishop or pope that said it
Why didn't Galilecotthogilic church position many years ago when he said that earth revolved around un and catholic church punished him for heresy?
Look at the topic of the thread and comprehend with what I replied to.

And stop lying, I never said anyone should believe anything, you believe only what you lack knowledge on.
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by jmoore(m): 12:57pm On Sep 18, 2023
Maynman:

Look at the topic of the thread and comprehend with what I replied to.

And stop lying, I never said anyone should believe anything, you believe only what you lack knowledge on.
So which scientifc knowledge supports that water + orange can give you petrol?
Abi, you dey confused?
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by Maynman: 1:04pm On Sep 18, 2023
jmoore:

So which scientifc knowedge supports that water + orange can give you petrol?
Abi, you dey confused?
Which scientific knowledge supports a virgin can give birth?
Why don't people question their pastors when they say such?

It's you that Is confused, i only asked a question.
"How do you know when to believe and not believe your pastors?
What are the characteristics to know"?

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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by jmoore(m): 1:11pm On Sep 18, 2023
Maynman:

Which scientific knowledge supports a virgin can give birth?
Why don't people question their pastor when they say such?
You are obviously a learner in atheism, hence your ridiculous questions.

Bible is not a science book.
I asked a science question and you are bringing in the bible.
Even if we are to look at your question scientifically, there is something called IVF.
Dude, go and upgrade basic science knowledge first.

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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by Maynman: 1:15pm On Sep 18, 2023
jmoore:

You are obviously a learner in atheism, hence your ridiculous qhestions.
"
Bible is not a science book.
I asked a science quesomkn and you are bringing in the bible
Even if we are to look at yourientifically, there is something called IVF.
Dude, go and upgrade basic science knowledge first.
Where did I bring in the bible?
I also asked a "science question"

How does an IVF work?
Yo
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by LordReed(m): 6:17pm On Sep 18, 2023

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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by Dtruthspeaker: 6:37pm On Sep 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


These fools claiming atheists are just stupid!

At a time they will claim they're worshipping science as if religionists don't practice science at another time they will start arguing over the achievements of scientists as if they're the custodians of scientific discoveries! grin

Says the atheist hiding in Satan's jw free mason.

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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:00pm On Sep 18, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:

Says the atheist hiding in Satan's jw free mason.
Atheist calling a believer names! cheesy

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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by Dtruthspeaker: 10:05am On Sep 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Atheist calling a believer names! cheesy

Says the atheist jw known for lying always.
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:09am On Sep 19, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:

Says the atheist jw known for lying always.
Fool!
Going by what 98% of Jews in the first century concluded Jesus and his disciples are LIARS.
So when people say something is a lie or that someone is lying intelligent individuals go for proper investigations {1Thessalonians 5:21} because you can't say Mr A is a liar when Mr B, C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J aren't in agreement yet all saying A is lying! wink

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Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by Maynman: 10:10am On Sep 19, 2023
Incoherent, it's a pity.
Re: Nigerian Atheists Silenced After India Successful Moon Mission by Dtruthspeaker: 10:31am On Sep 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Fool!
Going by what 98% of Jews in the first century concluded Jesus and his disciples are LIARS.
So when people say something is a lie or that someone is lying intelligent individuals go for proper investigations {1Thessalonians 5:21} because you can't say Mr A is a liar when Mr B, C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J aren't in agreement yet all saying A is lying! wink

grin See devil don come out of stupid jw atheist. grin See as the evil dey bite nya-nya-nya like craze shark! grin I don forget say you be Muslim sef so madness and devil dey your body naturally. Stupid Muslim jw atheist. Thank God lake of fire don dey near to burn una forever!

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