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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by ValarDoharis: 10:56am On Sep 23, 2023
It would seem that as usual, INEC was compromised so there was no intention to defend their ineptitude. How can 33 polling units witness be sufficient for dedcution of more than at more 6000 votes? Out of 1000 polling units, they called only 33 witnesses!

Why is the election not declared inconclusive when margin of victory is 36k and canceled votes is 70k?
fergie001:

APC presented 33 PU agents as witnesses who on oath said there was over-voting in their PUs, these facts were not countered.

BVAS machines confirmed that the figures INEC called out were higher than those accredited by BVAS. Some complained of unsigned ballot papers, and violence.

INEC in their replies corroborated that there was violence and certain POs at gunpoint were mandated to count already thumbprinted ballot papers and upload to IReV which they did.

Now NNPP should have also provided their own unsigned ballot papers of APC doing the same thing because that's what APC did, NNPP didn't.

INEC whose responsibility it was to say why their staff didn't sign or stamp the ballot papers said Nothing. INEC did not even provide POs as witnesses to explain what really happened.

NNPP have one saving grace now, it's left for their lawyers to figure that out.... I am still reading the judgement though.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Prince111111: 10:58am On Sep 23, 2023
gigabyte13:
Farooq atimes make a whole lot of sense but this write up is half sense....
We heard the APC lawyer, who was able to proof that the over 165k votes were invalid because the ballot papers were not duely stamped as required and were all in favour of the NNPP...
The write up here only addresses the issue of nomination, which the APC have no right to interfere with as stated in OBI vs BAT case.
Let the NNPP go and prove them wrong at the Appeal abi na supreme Court ....
the judgement was all about the allegations of unstamped ballots. The Guy was right, NNPP would win the appeal because APC's votes were not touched. Very funny judgement 🤣
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by TruthsFM: 11:00am On Sep 23, 2023
Court of Appeal will throw out the pre election matters of the APC governorship candidate, Gawuna against Governor Abba Yusuff of nnpp
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Wisereborn: 11:01am On Sep 23, 2023
DesChyko:

It is significant that APC didn’t even claim to have won the majority or plurality of the votes cast during the governorship election in Kano this year.
https://www.farooqkperogi.com/2023/09/why-kano-verdict-cant-stand.html?m=1
Nigerian judiciary, I hail oooo
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by 43Ronin: 11:01am On Sep 23, 2023
they used the supreme Court administrator case in imo state as a case study for winning when rigging doesn't work.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by fergie001: 11:03am On Sep 23, 2023
ValarDoharis:
It would seem that as usual, INEC was compromised so there was no intention to defend their ineptitude. How can 33 polling units witness be sufficient for dedcution of more than at more 6000 votes? Out of 1000 polling units, they called only 33 witnesses!

Why is the election not declared inconclusive when margin of victory is 36k and canceled votes is 70k?
Eureka!

I didn't want to mention it but now you have said it, there you are.

The margin of lead is even lower than 165k yet no inconclusive.

The SC has mentioned it many times on the validity of those who were present when this violence or whatever was happening.

Since it involves violence and all that, I didn't see the Nigeria Police as a Party to the suit or even to testify. They might be lucky but they have to be very very careful, they took it for granted until late July then ran to the Appeal Court for an interlocutory which was turned down.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Basic123: 11:12am On Sep 23, 2023
Beremx:
There will be uproar in Kano state if the people are robbed off their victory which NNPP won clearly.

The judiciary should be careful not to provoke the people

UPROAR...or DOWN ROAR....dey play! 😆
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by omolola12345(m): 11:13am On Sep 23, 2023
Why not do the presidential election petition this way. At least cancel some votes that were not eligible. And ordered rerun in some polling units. Nigeria my country.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Basic123: 11:17am On Sep 23, 2023
fergie001:

APC presented 33 PU agents as witnesses who on oath said there was over-voting in their PUs, these facts were not countered.

BVAS machines confirmed that the figures INEC called out were higher than those accredited by BVAS. Some complained of unsigned ballot papers, and violence.

INEC in their replies corroborated that there was violence and certain POs at gunpoint were mandated to count already thumbprinted ballot papers and upload to IReV which they did.

Now NNPP should have also provided their own unsigned ballot papers of APC doing the same thing because that's what APC did, NNPP didn't.

They provided only 1 witness just to affirm that Abba is a member of NNPP, not even one PU agent.

INEC whose responsibility it was to say why their staff didn't sign or stamp the ballot papers said Nothing. INEC did not even provide POs as witnesses to explain what really happened.

NNPP have one saving grace now, it's left for their lawyers to figure that out.... I am still reading the judgement though.
You replied with knowledge not emotion!

Kudos!


These people have forgotten that court doesn't do investigations,its your lawyers or policemen that do that.Court only look at this evidence that come out of your lawyer investigations and judge based on it.If NNPP lawyer could not prove that APC ballots too were unstamped,that is their own cup of tea.

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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Eriokanmi: 11:18am On Sep 23, 2023
Hand was the hand of Tinubu and voice was the voice of ganduje. That's my interpretation of the tribunal judgement. Osun tribunal's judgement easily came to mind. The ANPP man shouldn't even bother himself. He should rather concentrate on giving dividends of democracy to his people.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by JuicyStar: 11:20am On Sep 23, 2023
DesChyko:


https://www.farooqkperogi.com/2023/09/why-kano-verdict-cant-stand.html?m=1

U guys better know how law works. It’s not about emotions or beer palour arguments. If Apc challenged ur score, did u challenge theirs? Or u expects the court having cancelled invalid votes from NNPC’s score, they are duty bound to deduct unchallenged invalid votes from that of APC? It’s what u ask for that u would be considered and if proved, granted.

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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Eriokanmi: 11:20am On Sep 23, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
APC will still win because APC votes were also cancelled at the local government.
They've started again grin. I remember the osun tribunal. Kano governor should just concentrate on governance. He'd be there for 4 good years and if he does well, he'd do 8
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Luna65: 11:27am On Sep 23, 2023
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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by gigabyte13: 11:27am On Sep 23, 2023
Prince111111:
the judgement was all about the allegations of unstamped ballots. The Guy was right, NNPP would win the appeal because APC's votes were not touched. Very funny judgement 🤣


But did you observed that, the NNPP lawyers and their party, never proved that, what the APC pointed out was false.....
Court works on fact.
If the APC have similar issue on ballot papers, l think the NNPP lawyers and party would have pointed that out too......
GIVE IT TO THE APC LAWYERS
THEY OUTSMARTED THE NNPP ON THIS, WITH PROVE

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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by gigabyte13: 11:31am On Sep 23, 2023
Beremx:
There will be uproar in Kano state if the people are robbed off their victory which NNPP won clearly.

The judiciary should be careful not to provoke the people




Person wey dey live for upper nweka dey predict uproar for Kano state
Orisirisi.....
Na so una threaten for OBI matter
Una mind rest Las Las

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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by rolams(m): 11:35am On Sep 23, 2023
fergie001:
NNPP killed their case. They might get lucky though but the were too lackadaisical about it.

The tribunal Judges were like the Judges in Oyetola v Adeleke, going here and there and were more in particular about attacking the Kwankwassiya supporters. How can you award the winner to Gawuna who was not a Party. You rather award same to the Petitioner (another preliminary mistake)

Lastly, the issue of membership have been handled by higher Courts, in the spirit of stare decisis the tribunal had no rights whatsoever to sit on appeal against it. Definitely will be killed.

On the issue of unstamped, unsigned ballot papers NNPP went to sleep, called one witness when it was clear that APC did the same thing. INEC now helped them by as well going into trance with their replies.

On the issue at Appeal, the deduction of votes will be sustained, and perhaps inconclusive. It is the SC that will bail out Yusuf if they play their cards well.

The Court works with evidence and facts!

The tribunal failed to consider the necessary parties required to be part of the petition. It won't stand. Related case Eyitayo Jegede vs Akeredolu.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by fergie001: 11:40am On Sep 23, 2023
rolams:


The tribunal failed to consider the necessary parties required to be part of the petition. It won't stand. Related case Eyitayo Jegede vs Akeredolu.
Who are the necessary parties that weren't considered?

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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Ikaeniyan0: 11:42am On Sep 23, 2023
Prince111111:
they didn't touch APC's votes try and check before quoting!
Please go through the tribunal judgement and see why it favor APC

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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by rolams(m): 11:50am On Sep 23, 2023
fergie001:

Who are the necessary parties that weren't considered?


Sorry, it was a mistake. I was meant to say Gawuna is not a party. The tribunal should have considered this. Everyone in the petition has their position. That's why Buni was important in Eyitayo Jegede vs Akeredolu.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Nobody: 11:51am On Sep 23, 2023
So inec rec who is in charge of collation couldnt see the 165000 invalid votes?Had it been manhood yakubu transmit results in realtime electronically there wont be petitions.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by OGHENAOGIE(m): 11:53am On Sep 23, 2023
Beremx:
There will be uproar in Kano state if the people are robbed off their victory which NNPP won clearly.

The judiciary should be careful not to provoke the people
NNPP should file a good appeal nothing ll happen if supreme says Kabir Yusuf should go... Court is part of democracy... Supreme Court vioded APC Lyon victory in bayelsa heaven didn't fall.. u guys should stop this act of threatening judiciary... This isn't a banana republic

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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Tareq1105: 11:54am On Sep 23, 2023
fergie001:


On the issue of unstamped, unsigned ballot papers NNPP went to sleep, called one witness when it was clear that APC did the same thing. INEC now helped them by as well going into trance with their replies.

On the issue at Appeal, the deduction of votes will be sustained, and perhaps inconclusive. It is the SC that will bail out Yusuf if they play their cards well.

The Court works with evidence and facts!

Thanks for your brilliant analysis.

My take is that NNPP were overconfident about the issue of unstamped, unsigned, and undated ballot papers votes that all the 165,663 were for NNPP.

The Electoral Law says it must be stamped, signed and dated by the INEC Presiding Officer except where "all parties agreed" it should be used without stamp, date, and signature.

The question is, was there such agreement by all the parties? Even if there was such, it would be denied since it was not written.

Now, NNPP were unserious about this ground of petition and it called only one witness who wasn't serious about the question.

If APC had done similar thing where unstamped, unsigned, and undated ballot papers favoured the party NNPP never mentioned it all through.

NNPP failed to expose APC rigging and as such, I don't see any magic in Appeal Court and Supreme Court bcoz new evidence wouldn't be admitted.

Yes, NNPP is Kano and Kano is NNPP but I doubt if there would be any changes up to Supreme Court. Though we're people of sentiment but Court is a place of convincing evidences and not sentiment or entitlement or feelings.

The judges sit in the Court waiting for litigants and the judges would base their judgement on information/ evidences supplied by the litigants. They would not go shopping for evidence for you.

My views base on my little knowledge of Law.

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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by mu2sa2: 11:56am On Sep 23, 2023
BoldBrainz:


Farooq Kperogi is your problem, not the issue in discourse?
You should know that a mumu always stands clear from sane people.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by lexy2014: 12:00pm On Sep 23, 2023
Malroux:
No sane person takes Karishika or Kperogi serious. He is a double faced human who supports what interest him like the Muslim/Muslim ticket but will criticize what he doesn't like all in the name of being a journalist.

You don't even know his profession. Which sane person is going to take you serious?
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by CilicMarin: 12:01pm On Sep 23, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
Do you even know why the votes were deducted? If you truly know why, you won't be making this claim

Some people analysing the judgement here, are either daft or lack common knowledge on how election petitions and evidence act work.

First, there wont be anything like inconclusive election..What the tribunal dealt with, Invalid votes and not cancelled votes. The law only provided alibi for cancelled votes and invalid votes.

Second: APC challenged NNPP invalid votes and the NNPP didn't... did they expect the Tribunal to deduct votes not challenged by the NNPP?

Third: NNPP is not bound to introduce anything new in the appeal but only to spot errors of judgement.

Conclusion: It will take more than threat for the NNPP to recover from this misery.

Congratulations APC,!

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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Ikaeniyan0: 12:03pm On Sep 23, 2023
Eriokanmi:
They've started again grin. I remember the osun tribunal. Kano governor should just concentrate on governance. He'd be there for 4 good years and if he does well, he'd do 8
Is left for the court to decide. APC have prove how the NNPP got 160k plus invalid votes.

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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by toba1909(m): 12:06pm On Sep 23, 2023
DesChyko:


https://www.farooqkperogi.com/2023/09/why-kano-verdict-cant-stand.html?m=1

This one is an Olodo.
APC lost the case membership issue against NNPP na. It was strikes out.

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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Malroux: 12:06pm On Sep 23, 2023
lexy2014:


You don't even know his profession. Which sane person is going to take you serious?
He is a lecturer cum journalist. Who takes you serious?
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by fergie001: 12:06pm On Sep 23, 2023
rolams:
Sorry, it was a mistake. I was meant to say Gawuna is not a party. The tribunal should have considered this. Everyone in the petition has their position. That's why Buni was important in Eyitayo Jegede vs Akeredolu.
Gawuna didn't need to be a Party.

The SC in Buhari & Ors v Obasanjo & 265 Ors ruled categorically that non-joinder of the Political Party does not invalidate the petition.

Buhari had challenged OBJ's victory petitioning over 200 people without the PDP.

133(1) of the EA:
An election petition may be presented by one or more of the following persons;

A candidate in an election; or
A political party that participated in the election.

However, the tribunal's verdict was that Gawuna was winner but that was fundamentally wrong, it should have been to the Petitioner.

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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Tareq1105: 12:07pm On Sep 23, 2023
Revolution2022:
So inec rec who is in charge of collation couldnt see the 165000 invalid votes?Had it been manhood yakubu transmit results in realtime electronically there wont be petitions.

What is this one saying?

Who's talking of transmission of results here?

Is it BVAS or transmission that would stamp, sign and put date on the ballot papers used?

What's the correlation between failure to stamp, sign, and date the ballot papers, and transmission of results?

My guy, speak to the topic.

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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by seanfer(m): 12:07pm On Sep 23, 2023
ValarDoharis:
If 165,000 ballots were not authenticated by INEC, why should NNPP suffer for INEC's ineptitude unless they're accusing NNPP of smuggling in fake ballot papers

NNPP benefited from the 165,000 ballots...

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