onumadu:


Who do you really expect to go down this "beaten dead" asinine hole again?

I asked a simple question which none of you hateful COWARDS would ever be honest to self enough to answer:

WHY DO YOU SHIT YOUR PANTS ANYTIME IGBOLAND WANTS TO SECEDE FROM YOUR ELDORADO?

Why not support them to leave, since their land is cursed and barren?

This is called cognitive dissonance: a form of minor mental illness.

which Igbo want to secede? First of all, the Fulanis beat you people and told you you are not going anywhere because when your people had influence they didn't allow others leave but immediately they plummeted to the bottom they wanted to leave. You lost a war, you can't make demands to the victors. Secondly Igbos aren't interested in seceding. It's just social media noise from the bottom feeders of the ethnic group. You have 15 senators and many house of Representatives members in the Legislative arm of government, you have 5 governors, which one of them has ever broached the subject in the Legislative or Executive branch of governments? Or is it me that doesn't know the road to Aso Rock that will grant your secessionist dream?

raskymonojendor:

Yorubas had an ocean deity (Olokun and Yeyemoja). The Ijaws too had Bini-ebi and others (Sea goddess) but that did not lead to dread of the sea.

Agreed

It is getting clearer now that the igbo must have avoided the sea name one Igbo god or goddess of the sea or river or one historical evidence that has to do with the sea

Rossikk:
Why Didn't Ancient Igbos Settle On The Coast Instead of Inland and Landlocked?

I find it hard to understand why a highly populated ethnicity in the southern region just left the entire coast for minority groups to control.

Why didn't the ancient Igbos duke it out with the Delta people for control of the Atlantic seabed?

If they had acquIred the coast and built a large empire there, they could have averted the slave trade, because the European ships capitalised on the weak, fragmented nature of the coastal communities to perpetrate their nefarious trade.

They could have learnt to build ships to explore and trade with the world, like the ancient Malians, who built ships that took them to the Americas in the 13th century.

Only now that oil and gas have been discovered in the region that Igbos dream of dominating the place via a 'Biafra'.

But they could have gotten that seacoast in ancient times if only they had been more strategic in their thinking.

They had no reason to leave themselves landlocked.

They could easily have bullied the delta people to move from that place.

Igbos need to be more strategic in their reasoning.

It is not a flaw that started today.

Lack of a strong central monarchy. There was no king to unite the igbo groups to form an empire that could push for more coastal territories.

The Aros tried but they didn't aim to unite the igbo groups.

And when the Europeans came, they tempted the Aros into immoral slave trading of igbo groups, so any chance of a unification failed completely.

RevDesm0ndJuju:



Sharap.

It is on record that it was only Ibo land that suffered famine, hunger , destitution and a general Hobbesian state of existence.

Cannibalism and senseless ritual murders were rife so much so a European missionary teemed Ibo land "a land of Satan " and urged the British to colonise and sanitise the place.

Ibo land was the worst place in Africa other than the Fulani ravaged north.
E.
There was nothing of value from iboland other than a steady stream of slaves for the Jewish Atlantic slave trade.

Ibo land was so bad that Ibo slaves who regained their freedom never returned back to it.

It is for this reason the false claims to Jewry are being advanced towards rebranding a backward race of people .

this is the only tribe considered to be CANNIBALS by the Europeans.

https://www.nairaland.com/7810799/italian-pm-giorgia-meloni-claimed

Rossikk:
Why Didn't Ancient Igbos Settle On The Coast Instead of Inland and Landlocked?

I find it hard to understand why a highly populated ethnicity in the southern region just left the entire coast for minority groups to control.

Why didn't the ancient Igbos duke it out with the Delta people for control of the Atlantic seabed?

If they had acquIred the coast and built a large empire there, they could have averted the slave trade, because the European ships capitalised on the weak, fragmented nature of the coastal communities to perpetrate their nefarious trade.

They could have learnt to build ships to explore and trade with the world, like the ancient Malians, who built ships that took them to the Americas in the 13th century.

Only now that oil and gas have been discovered in the region that Igbos dream of dominating the place via a 'Biafra'.

But they could have gotten that seacoast in ancient times if only they had been more strategic in their thinking.

They had no reason to leave themselves landlocked.

They could easily have bullied the delta people to move from that place.

Igbos need to be more strategic in their reasoning.

It is not a flaw that started today.

you asked an important question.
Igbos preferred the to settle between the two great rivers viz Benue and Niger.
They detested the Ocean.
Reason why umukuruishi in Rivers state means those who breath the foul air of the salty Ocean.
Your ancestors are as perfect as the gods.
They are right in everything they did.
They know the ocean will flood from time to time and the Igbo civilization is made to last till the end of time,if you live near the oceans or volcanic mountains,your future is not guaranteed

Rossikk:



You are very right.

In fact I suspect that that was the main reason the Igbos avoided the coast.

It was a tragic error on their part.

it's not an error.
The ocean is feminine.
The Igbo is patriarchal.
Women run shows in the Coast such as Calabar, Rivers.
The real power in that region is feminine.
The ancestors are never wrong

Zxcvbnmghtr:


Such as wearing rafia?!

I will not educate you on the Igbo matter.
A Yoruba can try and marry Igbo woman to change his cowardly genes but there is more to the Igbo than in marrying Igbo women

engrchykae:
I will not educate you on the Igbo matter.
A Yoruba can try and marry Igbo woman to change his cowardly genes but there is more to the Igbo than in marrying Igbo women

Okay. I have run away to far Abidjan.

Rossikk:


You cannot be ''one people'' with a people who speak a different language from you.

That they speak a different LANGUAGE indicates that they are DIFFERENT from you.

You cannot redefine ethnicity just because you are so desperate to control south-south resources in an Igbo dominated 'new country7'.

Igbos didn't even regard themselves as ''one people'' in precolonial society, never mind including Calabar or Ijaw people.

Every Igbo town or community regarded itself as an independent nation.

If someone from an Igbo speaking town killed someone from a neighbouring town, the latter would send a request for the former to surrender one of their males (or a virgin) in compensation, with the new owners having the right to do as they wish with them, including execution.

But how then did Igbos comes to speak the same Language and share the same customs if they were scattered people

Scattered people speak different languages

This looks like the Igbos were one people in the Very Ancient past


The Ife People Claim that Obatala was the last King of the Igbo of Ife and that 93 Igbo Kings had ruled in Ife before Oduduwa and Obatala fought which led to the scattering of many Igbo away from Ife but that was in the 10 th Century

Zxcvbnmghtr:


Okay. I have run away to far Abidjan.

that's why I took ratak to end my criminal life for involving In a coup.
Awolowo says hi

engrchykae:
that's why I took ratak to end my criminal life for involving In a coup.
Awolowo says hi

Rossikk:
Why Didn't Ancient Igbos Settle On The Coast Instead of Inland and Landlocked?

I find it hard to understand why a highly populated ethnicity in the southern region just left the entire coast for minority groups to control.

Why didn't the ancient Igbos duke it out with the Delta people for control of the Atlantic seabed?

If they had acquIred the coast and built a large empire there, they could have averted the slave trade, because the European ships capitalised on the weak, fragmented nature of the coastal communities to perpetrate their nefarious trade.

They could have learnt to build ships to explore and trade with the world, like the ancient Malians, who built ships that took them to the Americas in the 13th century.

Only now that oil and gas have been discovered in the region that Igbos dream of dominating the place via a 'Biafra'.

But they could have gotten that seacoast in ancient times if only they had been more strategic in their thinking.

They had no reason to leave themselves landlocked.

They could easily have bullied the delta people to move from that place.

Igbos need to be more strategic in their reasoning.

It is not a flaw that started today.

Who weren't slaves in this world?
Europeans were slaves, Arabs, Asians but all of them have all gone beyond wailing and lamenting but you Africans will never grow up and face the future
Abi mental slavery don scatter ya head

This is the strangest question. That's like asking why most people preferred to settle in the grassland than in deserts.

Have you even bothered to travel to coasts of Nigeria bordering the Igbo hinterland? It is made up of swamps and marshes and was considered extremely undesirable real estate. Literally when European ethnographers travelled up the Niger, they knew they were entering Igbo territories when the mangroves and swamps started to give way to green dry land.

The people that made a living there lived hard lives and were prone to much higher frequencies of diseases than the hinterland, due to airborne diseases, mosquitoes that were prevalent, poor sanitation, poor access to drinkable water...

As such, with few exceptions, the Igbos of old perceived the coasts much like how the Europeans of old perceived Australia, a backwards wilderness.

The actual question to be asked is why Ancient Igbos would want to settle there en masse?

Also, it is pretty dumb to think that Igbos were afraid of water just because they didn't move to the coasts en masse. They live on both sides of one of the largest water bodies on the African continent, and they have their numerous water deities.

Hence the reason they lived near large water bodies such as lakes and rivers; in areas that could support farming and expanding towns.
If the eastern Nigerian coasts were similar to that of countries like Australia and hospitable to human life, then by today, the area would have been closer to homogenously Igbo.

Rossikk:
Why Didn't Ancient Igbos Settle On The Coast Instead of Inland and Landlocked?

I find it hard to understand why a highly populated ethnicity in the southern region just left the entire coast for minority groups to control.

Why didn't the ancient Igbos duke it out with the Delta people for control of the Atlantic seabed?

If they had acquIred the coast and built a large empire there, they could have averted the slave trade, because the European ships capitalised on the weak, fragmented nature of the coastal communities to perpetrate their nefarious trade.

They could have learnt to build ships to explore and trade with the world, like the ancient Malians, who built ships that took them to the Americas in the 13th century.

Only now that oil and gas have been discovered in the region that Igbos dream of dominating the place via a 'Biafra'.

But they could have gotten that seacoast in ancient times if only they had been more strategic in their thinking.

They had no reason to leave themselves landlocked.

They could easily have bullied the delta people to move from that place.

Igbos need to be more strategic in their reasoning.

It is not a flaw that started today.

Rossikk, when looking at social and cultural development of a people from a strategic angle, please exclude Ibo from your review. The people are not endowed with complex skills like that. For them life is very simple.

Rossikk:


Not true.

There are clear connections, and numerous studies have shown that.

Ancient Israelites being led into captivity by Assyrians.
Those are black men. Look at their hair.

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Rossikk:
Why Didn't Ancient Igbos Settle On The Coast Instead of Inland and Landlocked?

I find it hard to understand why a highly populated ethnicity in the southern region just left the entire coast for minority groups to control.

Why didn't the ancient Igbos duke it out with the Delta people for control of the Atlantic seabed?

If they had acquIred the coast and built a large empire there, they could have averted the slave trade, because the European ships capitalised on the weak, fragmented nature of the coastal communities to perpetrate their nefarious trade.

They could have learnt to build ships to explore and trade with the world, like the ancient Malians, who built ships that took them to the Americas in the 13th century.

Only now that oil and gas have been discovered in the region that Igbos dream of dominating the place via a 'Biafra'.

But they could have gotten that seacoast in ancient times if only they had been more strategic in their thinking.

They had no reason to leave themselves landlocked.

They could easily have bullied the delta people to move from that place.

Igbos need to be more strategic in their reasoning.

It is not a flaw that started today.

The history of the igbos is tasteless and it's totally not inspiring. It is a story of cannibalism and slavery;nothing more ! I have read a lot about igbos history; it's nothing to write home about !

They preferred to stay inside the forest because it was suitable for their cannibalism practice and primitive way of life. Apart from a fictional character named "Okonkwo" which was created by Mr Chinua Achebe in his famous play-Thing Fall Apart, what is there to talk about the Igbo people again ? Tell me ?Nothing,absolutely nothing; just a sad story of how the Ijaws enslaved and later sold them cheaply to the white slave merchants ! They themselves are aware of their ugly past and that's why today,they are very desperate to rewrite their shameful history.

So,you shouldn't be surprised when you hear all sort of fabricated lies in the name of Igbo history. They will call themselves Jews today,tomorrow they will tell you that they came from the Jupiter;all sorts of nonsense ! You said: "they could easily have bullied the Delta people"; you're wrong ! Which Delta people could they have been able to bully ? Certainly not the Ijaws,their slave masters ! So, tell me,which one - the Bini,Urhobo,Isoko or Itshekiri ? Never !

Lol,Eboes were just too primitive to even think of expanding their little enclave then,that's the truth !