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How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by rottennaija(m): 5:34pm On Oct 08, 2023
To all those who ask; how did Israel with its security and intelligence agencies fail to detect Hamas plans to carry out a daring invasion of Israel?!

Partial Answer: Huawei!

Yes, for past 30+months Hamas leaders and militants used Huawei's phones, tablets and laptops!

Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by rottennaija(m): 6:26pm On Oct 08, 2023
Huge development and will largely not register on most radars.

The Secretary General of the Arab League is flying to Moscow.

The reasons should be obvious.

Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by rottennaija(m): 7:27pm On Oct 08, 2023
Hamas refused a cease-fire in exchange for wounded and captured Israeli officers, Hazem Qassem said and said: "There is no question of a cease-fire and that this time we are going to the final victory."

The negotiations were led by Egyptian negotiators, and Anthony Blinken mediated in calming the tensions, to which "Hamas" replied that they had the initiative and that it would be buying time because they had received information that Israel had sent 80 percent of the artillery ammunition to Ukraine and they they have this knowledge that now Israel wants to "buy time", according to the "Wall Street Journal"

Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by rottennaija(m): 7:31pm On Oct 08, 2023
Many dishonest posts are trying to make it seem like civilians are being captured when a simple search exposes them as Israeli forces.

Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by rottennaija(m): 7:40pm On Oct 08, 2023
🇮🇱🇵🇸 The Israeli army announced that Colonel Roy Levy, commander of a multidisciplinary elite unit known as Israel's "Ghost" unit, was killed during an attack by Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip.

The Israeli army confirmed that Levy was killed yesterday at Kibbutz Raim in a clash with Palestinian militants.

Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by rottennaija(m): 8:05pm On Oct 08, 2023
Israel has 100s of planes - why would Gaza factions be afraid of some dozens more?
They know exactly that Gaza will be hammered to dust - that was part of their calculation - this should raise resistance in the Arab world against USA and Israel.
It is a game of escalation.

Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by rottennaija(m): 8:42pm On Oct 08, 2023
About the Hamas attack on Israel - by Alexey Makarkin

1. The unprecedented attack by Hamas on Israeli cities with its demonstrative cruelty is a deliberate action that has been prepared for a long time. It is clear that Hamas was not initially focused on holding territories - it does not have sufficient resources for this. Hamas is not able to resist the Israeli army in open battle. He has other tasks.

2. Hamas's first task is to sow panic in Israeli society as a whole and among the settlers in the first place. The settlers are one of the pillars of the current government of Benjamin Netanyahu, the most right-wing cabinet in Israeli history. They are accustomed to living on the front line, but Israeli populated areas have never been subjected to direct massive attacks by armed militants capable of even briefly capturing part of the country's territory. Now Hamas is counting on the flight of many of them from their inhabited lands.

3. The second task is to take hostages and use them to your advantage to blackmail the Israeli government. Hamas remembers the story of Corporal Gilad Shalit, who was exchanged for 1,027 Palestinian prisoners. Now they have many more Israelis in their hands - both military (up to the major general who was among the settlers) and civilians.

4. The third goal is to delegitimize the Israeli government, presenting it as weak, ineffective and unable to cope with Hamas. War in the 21st century has a powerful information component, which Hamas takes full advantage of.

5. The fourth task is to gain the support of the Arab street, which rejoices when seeing footage of Hamas terror. Arab leaders are cautious, but they cannot ignore the sentiments of the masses, for whom Hamas are heroes. An inevitable harsh response from Israel is also included in the plan - it could undermine the normalization of Israel’s relations with Arab countries (diplomatic relations were established with some of them under Trump, and difficult negotiations with Saudi Arabia continue under Biden). Diplomatic combinations collapse during military operations.

6. The fifth objective is to strengthen the already close ties with Iran, which is the beneficiary of the Hamas attack. Lebanese Hezbollah is already threatening to intervene if Israel crushes Hamas (and it has no other choice). At the same time, Iran is consolidating society within the country - now oppositionists demanding regime change will be considered “Zionist agents.”

7. In Israeli society, the effect of “consolidation around the flag” works, as always in such cases. The opposition supports the government's actions regardless of what it thinks about its effectiveness - the public division over Netanyahu's judicial reform has temporarily lost its relevance. But the question arises about what to do next. Any powerful strikes on Hamas's military infrastructure during the already announced ground operation will not defeat the organization, which uses Gaza as its springboard. If you try to establish control over Gaza, you may face numerous risks - the resumption of a long intifada (and in the West Bank), new losses among the military, and the complete degradation of relations with Arab countries. And all this without taking into account the hostage factor.

8. After the end of the emergency (no one knows when this will happen now), there will be a “debriefing” - like after the Yom Kippur War of 1973, which, despite the victory, revealed the unpreparedness of the Israeli security forces for it. The consequence was the resignation of Golda Meir's government. Netanyahu and his ministers will also have to answer difficult questions about the work of security forces, including the intelligence services. And also why the Minister of National Security, the leader of the far right, Itamar Ben-Gvir, defiantly climbed the Temple Mount, despite the threats of Hamas and realizing that this was unacceptable not only for radicals, but also for moderate Arabs - and at the same time the security of the country’s population was not ensured.
Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by baralatie(m): 9:45pm On Oct 08, 2023
Watch as everything unfolds.
Not by all this story
Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by Horus(m): 9:55pm On Oct 08, 2023
rottennaija:
To all those who ask; how did Israel with its security and intelligence agencies fail to detect Hamas plans to carry out a daring invasion of Israel?!

Partial Answer: Huawei!

Yes, for past 30+months Hamas leaders and militants used Huawei's phones, tablets and laptops!

Now I will use only Huawei phones grin
Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by joyandfaith: 10:08pm On Oct 08, 2023
Huawei marketer of the year. Funny people. Ww3 is loading as cold war is being escalated in Africa, Eastern Europe and Middle East. Russia welldone. May be 1 billion people would die when ww3 begins.
Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by baralatie(m): 10:13pm On Oct 08, 2023
joyandfaith:
Huawei marketer of the year. Funny people. Ww3 is loading as cold war is being escalated in Africa, Eastern Europe and Middle East. Russia welldone. May be 1 billion people would die when ww3 begins.
Wetin Russia do
Abi you mean iran
Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by joyandfaith: 10:47pm On Oct 08, 2023
baralatie:

Wetin Russia do
Abi you mean iran

Russia is an arrowhead of cold war. NK and Iran are assistant. Read reaction of Russia government to war in Israel.
Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by rottennaija(m): 8:44am On Oct 09, 2023
joyandfaith:
Huawei marketer of the year. Funny people. Ww3 is loading as cold war is being escalated in Africa, Eastern Europe and Middle East. Russia welldone. May be 1 billion people would die when ww3 begins.

Are you not a hit foolish? Palestine was to continue keeping quiet while Israel carry out Jihad just because the idiot, neocons and warmongers in the west support it? ?
Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by motayoayinde: 10:32am On Oct 09, 2023
LOL.

WHILE ISRAEL AND BLINKEN NEGOTIATE A CEASEFIRE WITH HAMAS, THEIR POORLY FED SYMPATHIZERS ARE JUBILATING OVER THE BOMBING OF BUILDINGS.
Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by baralatie(m): 10:36am On Oct 09, 2023
joyandfaith:


Russia is an arrowhead of cold war. NK and Iran are assistant. Read reaction of Russia government to war in Israel.
I will find Russia delving into this problem as unnecessary but Iran has creating a problem in the Gaza.
So it is a case of Gaza been handed over to the Israelis on a platter.
Well as long as this continues
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67050350
Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by joyandfaith: 7:01pm On Oct 09, 2023
rottennaija:


Are you not a hit foolish? Palestine was to continue keeping quiet while Israel carry out Jihad just because the idiot, neocons and warmongers in the west support it? ?

It is foolish people that keep abusing people with nothing to gain. What has HAMAS gained from invading Israel. Historically, conquerors are owners of lands they conquered. If HAMAS and the whole Arabs could conquer isreal and chase Jews away, they become land owners. If they fail to conquer Isreal and Gaza is wiped our, who are the loosers. Isreal handed over beautiful gaza to Arabs in 2005 instead of them to develop themselves economically and scientifically, they are flexing muscle with Isreal.
I know you are Pro- Russia and anti- America, note this US would defend Israel at all cost. Any nation that wants end of America hegemony must be ready to spill blood. Casualties in the likely ww3 would close to I billion people.
Dey play.
Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by rottennaija(m): 9:38am On Oct 10, 2023
joyandfaith:


It is foolish people that keep abusing people with nothing to gain. What has HAMAS gained from invading Israel. Historically, conquerors are owners of lands they conquered. If HAMAS and the whole Arabs could conquer isreal and chase Jews away, they become land owners. If they fail to conquer Isreal and Gaza is wiped our, who are the loosers. Isreal handed over beautiful gaza to Arabs in 2005 instead of them to develop themselves economically and scientifically, they are flexing muscle with Isreal.
I know you are Pro- Russia and anti- America, note this US would defend Israel at all cost. Any nation that wants end of America hegemony must be ready to spill blood. Casualties in the likely ww3 would close to I billion people.
Dey play.

Israel and US has won the battle. They will lose the war.
Re: How Did Israel & Intelligence Agencies Fail To Detect Hamas PLANS? by Vesilli: 12:59pm On Oct 10, 2023
rottennaija:


Israel and US has won the battle. They will lose the war.
The battle and the war will be won by ISRAEL.

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