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Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by garfield1: 1:03pm On Oct 14, 2023
fergie001:
It will depend on a lot of technical factors but for now Bayelsa APC has no Guber Candidate.

The case is a bit more technical than you and I think.


I will do it today, my visitor don leave.

It is simple,such laws are not retroactive.by virtue of the first annulment,he only served once
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by fergie001: 1:05pm On Oct 14, 2023
garfield1:


It is simple,such laws are not retroactive.by virtue of the first annulment,he only served once
How many years did he serve?
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by garfield1: 1:07pm On Oct 14, 2023
fergie001:
How many years did he serve?

4 years
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by fergie001: 1:15pm On Oct 14, 2023
garfield1:


4 years
To my understanding, May 29, 2007 - Feb 14, 2012 is more than 4 years. (This is the period Sylva was Governor).
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by garfield1: 1:28pm On Oct 14, 2023
fergie001:

To my understanding, May 29, 2007 - Feb 14, 2012 is more than 4 years. (This is the period Sylva was Governor).

It was annulled by an appeal court in 2008.
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by fergie001: 1:39pm On Oct 14, 2023
garfield1:
It was annulled by an appeal court in 2008.
The Supreme Court said his tenure began from May 29, 2007.

On this matter, hear the Supreme Court...... per Onnoghen JSC (as he then was) who took the leading judgement

"It is settled law that the time fixed by the constitution for the doing of anything cannot be extended. It is immutable, fixed like the rock of Gibraltar. It cannot be extended, elongated, expanded, or stretched beyond what it states. To calculate the tenure of office of the governors from the date of their second Oaths of Allegiance and of Office while ignoring the period from 29th May, 2007, when they took the first oaths is to extend the four years tenure constitutionally granted the governors to occupy and act in that office which would be unconstitutional. It is therefore clear and I hereby hold that the second Oaths of Allegiance and of Office taken in 2008, though necessary to enable them continue to function in that office, were clearly superfluous in the determination of the four years tenure under Section 180(2) of the 1999 Constitution."

Judgement was delivered on January 27, 2012.
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by garfield1: 2:02pm On Oct 14, 2023
fergie001:

The Supreme Court said his tenure began from May 29, 2007.

On this matter, hear the Supreme Court...... per Onnoghen JSC (as he then was) who took the leading judgement

"It is settled law that the time fixed by the constitution for the doing of anything cannot be extended. It is immutable, fixed like the rock of Gibraltar. It cannot be extended, elongated, expanded, or stretched beyond what it states. To calculate the tenure of office of the governors from the date of their second Oaths of Allegiance and of Office while ignoring the period from 29th May, 2007, when they took the first oaths is to extend the four years tenure constitutionally granted the governors to occupy and act in that office which would be unconstitutional. It is therefore clear and I hereby hold that the second Oaths of Allegiance and of Office taken in 2008, though necessary to enable them continue to function in that office, were clearly superfluous in the determination of the four years tenure under Section 180(2) of the 1999 Constitution."

Judgement was delivered on January 27, 2012.

Yes,I believe this will be overtaken by new events.the intendment of that amendment was to prevent the geidam scenario
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by zelnababa(m): 2:04pm On Oct 14, 2023
Whalis:
Supreme Court in their sagacious wisdom should stop Sylva. The reason is for posterity sake. If a deputy governor knows that by eliminating the governor he could take over rule his remaining term and still have a whooping 8 years of his then the lives of the governors are endangered.
Sylva having been sworn in twice should concentrate on other political endeavors and no longer that of governorship.
lolz but Gej contested second time as a president ooo
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by fergie001: 2:15pm On Oct 14, 2023
garfield1:
Yes,I believe this will be overtaken by new events.the intendment of that amendment was to prevent the geidam scenario
What are the next events?

Sylva's was different from Geidam's. He was never a Deputy-Governor.

Does this set of new events say an elected Governor should stay in office more than 8 years?

These are the questions......
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by Whalis: 2:29pm On Oct 14, 2023
zelnababa:
lolz but Gej contested second time as a president ooo
Supreme Court should stop that now
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by fergie001: 2:48pm On Oct 14, 2023
Whalis:

Supreme Court should stop that now
The Constitution was amended in 2016 to correct that.

When a Governor/President dies in office, his Deputy's completion will be counted as one term.

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Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by Whalis: 3:11pm On Oct 14, 2023
fergie001:
The Constitution was amended in 2016 to correct that.

When a Governor/President dies in office, his Deputy's completion will be counted as one term.
Thanks for this.

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Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by garfield1: 3:51pm On Oct 14, 2023
fergie001:

What are the next events?

Sylva's was different from Geidam's. He was never a Deputy-Governor.

Does this set of new events say an elected Governor should stay in office more than 8 years?

These are the questions......


Exactly.the law is intended for those that never tested office as at enactment.sylva and gej should escape it
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by Evergreen4(m): 4:05pm On Oct 14, 2023
garfield1:


They have
He has been dismissed by court until a higher court reinstates him
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by garfield1: 4:06pm On Oct 14, 2023
Evergreen4:
He has been dismissed by court until a higher court reinstates him

Yes,he will get a stay of execution
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by fergie001: 4:15pm On Oct 14, 2023
garfield1:


Exactly.the law is intended for those that never tested office as at enactment.sylva and gej should escape it
Nothing was enacted to affect Sylva.

He was never a Deputy-Governor. The enactment affected GEJ because he was a Vice President and helped complete Yar'Adua's tenure, not Sylva.

Sylva was elected Governor in 2007 and he personally went to Court so as to spend 5 years in Jan 2011. So the question is: IF, a big IF he wins on November 11, he will spend 9 years, is it Constitutionally allowed?

That's what the Court addressed.

garfield1:


Yes,he will get a stay of execution
Unless that, a panel of 5 will sit on it.
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by Evergreen4(m): 4:27pm On Oct 14, 2023
garfield1:


They have
He has been dismissed by court until a higher court reinstates him. For now they don't have candidate
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by opeey(m): 6:18pm On Oct 14, 2023
Richie999:
This guy must be a scam.. only you with different names. People should be careful if this guy.
Re: Guber Polls: Bayelsa APC Postpones Campaign Flag-Off by garfield1: 7:33pm On Oct 14, 2023
fergie001:

Nothing was enacted to affect Sylva.

He was never a Deputy-Governor. The enactment affected GEJ because he was a Vice President and helped complete Yar'Adua's tenure, not Sylva.

Sylva was elected Governor in 2007 and he personally went to Court so as to spend 5 years in Jan 2011. So the question is: IF, a big IF he wins on November 11, he will spend 9 years, is it Constitutionally allowed?

That's what the Court addressed.

Unless that, a panel of 5 will sit on it.

I am still waiting for the nasarawa stuff

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